Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION

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Standardize Vedic Gemology

 

Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked her

janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

"maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope and

yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise gems

for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on them. I

hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from misleading

those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic gems.

 

SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary Gemology.

 

I would first like to address the question of how gems should be chosen

and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems should be

used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group believes

that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost" beneficial or

auspicious planets (Anukula).

 

I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

 

According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet in

its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good than

in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that are in

an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that planets

which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in strong

sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology for

Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560 009,

India. 1983)

 

When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the condition of

the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of Prof.

Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet, but gems

DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's horoscope. The

idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like those in an enemy

sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them auspicious is, in

my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

 

This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the belief

that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results will

follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

 

I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling planet,

FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that a planet

is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger will only

increase its bad influence.

 

For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

(according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic Mars

and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common knowledge

that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman says that it

would be a BAD influence on the person.

 

In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative idea

that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen their

weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I can

understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not giving

people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the very worst

gem they could use.

 

An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha, or

cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I

was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue sapphire, the

gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's harmful

influence on me.

 

After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had it set

into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty minutes

before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the ring after

reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

 

I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad influence

was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into a Shani

Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my business

started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost everything I

did was beset with obstacles and delays.

 

Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research has

shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about 30

days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad position

in my birth chart.

 

Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit Vidyadhar

Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic astrologer

of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad influence for

me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had made matters

worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems "pacify"

harmful planets.

 

In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire in

order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

advice I have experienced much better effects on my health, business

and attitude.

 

II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

 

Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the method

is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s), not to

wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil (ill-placed)

Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one should DONATE a

fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday evening during the

waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using gems to PACIFY bad or

ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

 

III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

 

According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws) are

auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref. Chapter

246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

 

"A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing rough

or sandy, should not be used at all."

 

Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa Sripad

Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

 

"A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong color

banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal cracks, a

sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone

using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

disease, or loss of fortune."

 

Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the use of

ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

 

"These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

completely avoided!"

 

The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is quoted in

Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else would be,

by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to wear

a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

 

IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or good

planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak planets.

 

Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for bad

planets produced BAD results.

 

I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a great

disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and also

telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to advise

that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have the

same real power of a natural gemstone.

 

And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I do,

viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00). I think

this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is gaining

momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and exalted Vedic

science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as at the present

time.

 

If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed gems

are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such inferior

quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow human beings.

 

V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

 

The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck, does

that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can afford the

price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded: "Flawed, common

gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike, but flawless,

CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people can afford

flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for the masses. If

only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave the middle and

poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

 

---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the Sun's

being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If their budget

(the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they are poor (for

totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question of gemstones); if

the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if the budget is

$10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case they can have a

flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has provided a number of

natural alternative gems. So, in this case, everyone, the poor, the

rich, and the middle class could all be happy by purchasing either a...

 

1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

$1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

 

Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red coral.)

or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone choices

based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than their

precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral energy of

their associated planet. They are also easier to find without flaws or

treatment.

 

Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems) known to

man, along with their ruling planets:

 

-(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are ruled

by the Sun;

 

-(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral are

ruled by the Moon;

 

-(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and citrine

are ruled by Jupiter;

 

-(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets are

ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

 

-(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade are

ruled by Mercury;

 

-(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and quartz

are ruled by Venus;

 

-(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline cat's

eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

 

-(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

 

-(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

 

If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they may

opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets have

several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in enhancing

their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies transmitted by

planetary gemstones should select only flawless specimens. It is in

fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear flawed stones. But

since every planet offers a variety of gems from "first class" to

"economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem that suits one's

individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

 

VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

 

In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the highly

regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so that

this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

 

Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

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Respectfully,

 

Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG Ref.

 

http://www.richardshawbrown

 

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dear friends

 

gems have only one job i.e. to attract the energies from the

respective planets which is scientifically proved.

 

hence it is as simple as this. if a planet is good in your chart,

wearing its stone will do good. if a planet is bad in your chart,

wearing its stone will do bad. this is also termed as "anukul"

and "pratikul".

 

hence a native shall wear stones only for a planet which is good in

his or her chart. any astrologer can easily identify the strength

of a planet and its disposition as good or bad. generally it is

recommended that a planet which is in its own sign, mooltrikon,

exaltation, in kendra or trikona and a yogakaraka, its stone is

recommended. there is also a popular practice (though not

scientifcally tenable) that the stone of the lord of the birthstar

or the stone of jupiter or the stone of the 9th lord irrespective of

their placement and strength. the reasoning behind these popular

practices are that the lord of the birthstar shall always be pleased

by wearing his stone for the lifetime. similarly jupiter is the

best benefic in the solar system and is karaka and upakaraka of

seven important bhavas and hence his stone would always be good.

also the stone of the lord of fortune (9th house) would always bring

good luck. even though one shall not blinldy recommend these three

types, they have been found over experience by several gemologists,

particularly in india, that they have done good to the wearers.

 

having said the above, the real true flawless gems are rarely

available and are highly expensive for an ordinary man. this is

where the rudraksha comes as a boon for the poor and middle class

who cannot afford the stones. several puranas mentioned how each

rudraksha is attributed to a particular lord and gives a particular

benefit. so no anukul or pratikul problem with the rurdraksha which

is why rudraksha are gaining popularity and are preferred to

stones. i have seen 100% positive results in the wearers of

rudraksha given by me, mainly because i do value added services like

purification, sanctification, energisation and programming as

mentioned in the shastras. even for stones, there is a dharana

vidhi which shall be followed.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Standardize Vedic Gemology

>

> Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

> wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked

her

> janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

> "maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope

and

> yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise

gems

> for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on them.

I

> hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from misleading

> those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic gems.

>

> SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary

Gemology.

>

> I would first like to address the question of how gems should be

chosen

> and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems should

be

> used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group believes

> that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost" beneficial

or

> auspicious planets (Anukula).

>

> I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

>

> According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

> planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet

in

> its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good

than

> in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

> powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that

are in

> an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

> inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that

planets

> which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in

strong

> sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology for

> Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560

009,

> India. 1983)

>

> When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the

condition of

> the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of Prof.

> Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet, but

gems

> DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's

horoscope. The

> idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like those in an enemy

> sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them auspicious is,

in

> my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

>

> This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the

belief

> that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results

will

> follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

>

> I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling

planet,

> FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that a

planet

> is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger will

only

> increase its bad influence.

>

> For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

> (according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic

Mars

> and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common

knowledge

> that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman says that

it

> would be a BAD influence on the person.

>

> In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

> Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative

idea

> that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen

their

> weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

> method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I

can

> understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not

giving

> people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the very

worst

> gem they could use.

>

> An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

> experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-

graha, or

> cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I

> was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue sapphire,

the

> gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's harmful

> influence on me.

>

> After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

> blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had

it set

> into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty

minutes

> before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the ring

after

> reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

>

> I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

> auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence

> was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into a Shani

> Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my

business

> started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost everything

I

> did was beset with obstacles and delays.

>

> Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

> frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research

has

> shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about 30

> days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

> Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

> increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad

position

> in my birth chart.

>

> Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar

> Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer

> of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad influence

for

> me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had made matters

> worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems "pacify"

> harmful planets.

>

> In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

> lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

> "strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

> harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue

sapphire in

> order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

> advice I have experienced much better effects on my health,

business

> and attitude.

>

> II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

>

> Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the

method

> is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s), not

to

> wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil (ill-

placed)

> Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one should DONATE a

> fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday evening during

the

> waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using gems to PACIFY

bad or

> ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

>

> III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

>

> According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws)

are

> auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref.

Chapter

> 246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

>

> "A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing

rough

> or sandy, should not be used at all."

>

> Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa

Sripad

> Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

>

> "A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong

color

> banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal

cracks, a

> sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless.

Anyone

> using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

> disease, or loss of fortune."

>

> Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

> instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the

use of

> ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

>

> "These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

> flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

> varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

> completely avoided!"

>

> The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is

quoted in

> Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

> flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else

would be,

> by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to

wear

> a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

>

> IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

> My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

> year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or

good

> planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak

planets.

>

> Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for

bad

> planets produced BAD results.

>

> I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a

great

> disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and

also

> telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

> contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to

advise

> that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have

the

> same real power of a natural gemstone.

>

> And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I

do,

> viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

> sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

> PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00). I

think

> this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is

gaining

> momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and exalted

Vedic

> science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as at the

present

> time.

>

> If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed

gems

> are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such inferior

> quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow human

beings.

>

> V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

>

> The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does

> that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the

> price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded: "Flawed,

common

> gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike, but flawless,

> CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people can afford

> flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for the

masses. If

> only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave the middle

and

> poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

>

> ---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the

Sun's

> being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If their

budget

> (the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they are poor

(for

> totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question of

gemstones); if

> the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if the budget is

> $10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case they can

have a

> flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has provided a number of

> natural alternative gems. So, in this case, everyone, the poor, the

> rich, and the middle class could all be happy by purchasing either

a...

>

> 1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

> $1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

>

> Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

> hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red

coral.)

> or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone choices

> based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than their

> precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral energy

of

> their associated planet. They are also easier to find without

flaws or

> treatment.

>

> Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems)

known to

> man, along with their ruling planets:

>

> -(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are

ruled

> by the Sun;

>

> -(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral

are

> ruled by the Moon;

>

> -(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and

citrine

> are ruled by Jupiter;

>

> -(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets

are

> ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

>

> -(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade

are

> ruled by Mercury;

>

> -(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and

quartz

> are ruled by Venus;

>

> -(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline

cat's

> eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

>

> -(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

> amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

>

> -(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

>

> If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they

may

> opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

> colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets

have

> several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

> beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

> secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

> flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in

enhancing

> their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies transmitted by

> planetary gemstones should select only flawless specimens. It is in

> fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear flawed stones. But

> since every planet offers a variety of gems from "first class" to

> "economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem that suits

one's

> individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

>

> VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

>

> In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the

highly

> regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

> leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

> Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

> current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so

that

> this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

>

> Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

> comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

> sec or write care of PGA, C3 Building Suan Lum Night Bazaar,

> 1875 Rama 4 Road, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330, Kingdom of Thailand.

> http://www.p-g-a.org

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG Ref.

>

> http://www.richardshawbrown

>

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Hello Richard,

 

You raise some good points. Good luck in establishing all this

standardization etc. Sounds wonderful. Also, please keep documenting

with all details success stories, and failures too. It would go

towards establishing the effects of gemstones in the astrologic-

tantrik chronicals. Many would question that kind of correlation and

rather than statements, your documented data and accounts will go a

long way in convincing people.

 

All the best of luck!

 

RR

 

 

, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Standardize Vedic Gemology

>

> Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

> wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked

her

> janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

> "maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope

and

> yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise

gems

> for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on them.

I

> hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from misleading

> those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic gems.

>

> SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary

Gemology.

>

> I would first like to address the question of how gems should be

chosen

> and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems should

be

> used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group believes

> that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost" beneficial

or

> auspicious planets (Anukula).

>

> I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

>

> According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

> planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet

in

> its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good

than

> in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

> powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that

are in

> an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

> inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that

planets

> which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in

strong

> sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology for

> Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560

009,

> India. 1983)

>

> When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the

condition of

> the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of Prof.

> Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet, but

gems

> DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's

horoscope. The

> idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like those in an enemy

> sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them auspicious is,

in

> my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

>

> This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the

belief

> that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results

will

> follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

>

> I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling

planet,

> FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that a

planet

> is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger will

only

> increase its bad influence.

>

> For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

> (according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic

Mars

> and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common

knowledge

> that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman says that

it

> would be a BAD influence on the person.

>

> In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

> Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative

idea

> that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen

their

> weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

> method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I

can

> understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not

giving

> people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the very

worst

> gem they could use.

>

> An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

> experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-

graha, or

> cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I

> was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue sapphire,

the

> gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's harmful

> influence on me.

>

> After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

> blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had

it set

> into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty

minutes

> before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the ring

after

> reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

>

> I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

> auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence

> was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into a Shani

> Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my

business

> started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost everything

I

> did was beset with obstacles and delays.

>

> Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

> frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research

has

> shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about 30

> days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

> Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

> increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad

position

> in my birth chart.

>

> Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar

> Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer

> of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad influence

for

> me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had made matters

> worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems "pacify"

> harmful planets.

>

> In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

> lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

> "strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

> harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue

sapphire in

> order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

> advice I have experienced much better effects on my health,

business

> and attitude.

>

> II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

>

> Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the

method

> is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s), not

to

> wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil (ill-

placed)

> Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one should DONATE a

> fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday evening during

the

> waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using gems to PACIFY

bad or

> ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

>

> III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

>

> According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws)

are

> auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref.

Chapter

> 246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

>

> "A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing

rough

> or sandy, should not be used at all."

>

> Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa

Sripad

> Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

>

> "A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong

color

> banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal

cracks, a

> sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless.

Anyone

> using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

> disease, or loss of fortune."

>

> Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

> instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the

use of

> ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

>

> "These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

> flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

> varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

> completely avoided!"

>

> The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is

quoted in

> Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

> flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else

would be,

> by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to

wear

> a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

>

> IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

> My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

> year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or

good

> planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak

planets.

>

> Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for

bad

> planets produced BAD results.

>

> I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a

great

> disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and

also

> telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

> contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to

advise

> that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have

the

> same real power of a natural gemstone.

>

> And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I

do,

> viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

> sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

> PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00). I

think

> this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is

gaining

> momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and exalted

Vedic

> science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as at the

present

> time.

>

> If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed

gems

> are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such inferior

> quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow human

beings.

>

> V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

>

> The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does

> that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the

> price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded: "Flawed,

common

> gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike, but flawless,

> CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people can afford

> flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for the

masses. If

> only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave the middle

and

> poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

>

> ---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the

Sun's

> being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If their

budget

> (the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they are poor

(for

> totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question of

gemstones); if

> the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if the budget is

> $10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case they can

have a

> flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has provided a number of

> natural alternative gems. So, in this case, everyone, the poor, the

> rich, and the middle class could all be happy by purchasing either

a...

>

> 1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

> $1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

>

> Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

> hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red

coral.)

> or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone choices

> based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than their

> precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral energy

of

> their associated planet. They are also easier to find without

flaws or

> treatment.

>

> Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems)

known to

> man, along with their ruling planets:

>

> -(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are

ruled

> by the Sun;

>

> -(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral

are

> ruled by the Moon;

>

> -(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and

citrine

> are ruled by Jupiter;

>

> -(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets

are

> ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

>

> -(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade

are

> ruled by Mercury;

>

> -(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and

quartz

> are ruled by Venus;

>

> -(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline

cat's

> eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

>

> -(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

> amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

>

> -(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

>

> If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they

may

> opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

> colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets

have

> several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

> beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

> secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

> flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in

enhancing

> their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies transmitted by

> planetary gemstones should select only flawless specimens. It is in

> fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear flawed stones. But

> since every planet offers a variety of gems from "first class" to

> "economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem that suits

one's

> individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

>

> VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

>

> In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the

highly

> regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

> leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

> Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

> current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so

that

> this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

>

> Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

> comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

> sec or write care of PGA, C3 Building Suan Lum Night Bazaar,

> 1875 Rama 4 Road, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330, Kingdom of Thailand.

> http://www.p-g-a.org

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG Ref.

>

> http://www.richardshawbrown

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://uk.messenger.

>

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dear readers,

The articles on Gemology was really good. But I fail

to understand one area which is quite touching. If a

planet is a malefic in a chart the stone related to

the malefic planet should be donated to a leper or to

some individuals. already a leper's life is badly

affected and by donating this gemstone, arent we

committing an act of sin because this stone which is

malefic for us by donating it may have the same

malefic effect for the individual who is going to

receive it because we dont have an idea about the

donnee's chart. It will be better if learned members

of this forum clarify this act of donation of

pratikulvad gems.

 

with good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopu,

 

You have given a logical argument here. It is no use giving the

stone of the malefic to a leper. Instead, the gem should be given to a person

for whom the planet related to the gem is a benefic, but who does not have the

resources to buy the gem himself.

 

The person can be a friend, a family member, or simply an aquaintance.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

[The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, but

consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

 

 

-

K Gopu

Monday, 13 March, 2006 09:26

Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION

 

 

dear readers,

The articles on Gemology was really good. But I fail

to understand one area which is quite touching. If a

planet is a malefic in a chart the stone related to

the malefic planet should be donated to a leper or to

some individuals. already a leper's life is badly

affected and by donating this gemstone, arent we

committing an act of sin because this stone which is

malefic for us by donating it may have the same

malefic effect for the individual who is going to

receive it because we dont have an idea about the

donnee's chart. It will be better if learned members

of this forum clarify this act of donation of

pratikulvad gems.

 

with good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Whoever posted that originally (Richard perhaps?) probably has other

reasons but the logic behind such charity as any other charities in

my ant's view is rather simple and obvious. Malefics make you

suffer, so if you take on suffering voluntarily, through penance,

monetary loss (which charity is, while benefitting someone) then the

purpose is served. Even convicts who show up at police stations and

confess, get off with an easier term (might not be the case in all

societies!).

 

The only modification, I would suggest using common sense is not to

donate it to a leper directly but to either donate it to an

organization that serves or helps lepers or maybe sell the gemstone

and give the money to the organization.

 

Then, it would not be like 'my unwanted stuff going to charity and

landing in your lap and becoming your problem' if you catch my drift.

 

While we are on this topic, would the wise and experienced members

enlighten us about classic references which specifically indicate

that *wearing* a gemstone in a ring or bracelet or necklace pacifies

or strengthens a planet in a NATAL chart?

 

Some state that jyotish as we know now, classically, had been

supported by Kings and courts in past times and kings often

expressed their pleasures and rewarded gemstones or necklaces etc.

Is that where the gemstone-charity concept came from?

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

> dear readers,

> The articles on Gemology was really good. But I fail

> to understand one area which is quite touching. If a

> planet is a malefic in a chart the stone related to

> the malefic planet should be donated to a leper or to

> some individuals. already a leper's life is badly

> affected and by donating this gemstone, arent we

> committing an act of sin because this stone which is

> malefic for us by donating it may have the same

> malefic effect for the individual who is going to

> receive it because we dont have an idea about the

> donnee's chart. It will be better if learned members

> of this forum clarify this act of donation of

> pratikulvad gems.

>

> with good wishes,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>