Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Rishiji, I am aware of a myth which states that 'Himsa'- envy or jealousy is the daughter of Lobh- greed and is married to krodh- anger. Need any more negativity? All these shadripus are interrelated and nothing is bad per se in the right degree. As RRji and now krishnan ji opined, the negative energy can be harnessed productively for emanicipation of the Self, Where would we be if we do not try to excel, be it ourselves or others. This is the month of Basant and celebration of the festival of colours is a way of cleansing one of the negativity of the shadripus. It may also be recalled thatthe effigy of Manmatha, the God of love is also burnt to signify the victory over the shad ripus, during this time. Providence? that we discuss it during this time. Holi is on the 15th of March? (I am not sure of the date).In my opinion the best way for us to conquor the shadripus is to channelise their energies in the right direction for achieving whatever that the individual intends to achieve.( as for as we humans in this material world are concerned, I dont think we stand a chance of totally anihilating the shadripus in us). TO BE CONSCIOUS OF ONE`S OWN MISTAKES IS THE SUREST WAY TO COME OUT OF A DIFFICULTY Regards Nalini , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > hello Rishi ji, > undoubtedly all matter concerning with humans are more perceptions beyond any doubt.be it love or hate.jealousy is in a way a sfest resort one to improve or model and put efforts.Infact ir is akind of developmental perspective.what really matters is degrres of expression.This is not limited to jealousy itself. > In fact all shad ripu when over take the muman mind and becomes a slave,then human beings face a kind of victimisation.The effort is therefore to harmonise the qualities that come out of good and bad palnets as well as good and bad houses.Now having tried to grope into the astrology some understanding definetely comes where human efforts fail.Astrologer in this aspect will be useful to suggest that becuse of mercury's effect or saturn's negative approach or clinginess the human nature gets transfomed.This is the phiolosophical view of approach and I tend to agree with your view that jealousy is in a way dream by loking at others and seeking for achievement.This in turn demands strong inclination to overcome "neighbours envy aspects" > krishnan > crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > You have still not told me anything :-) > Yes misperception about jealousy is possible but one does not usally > jump to conclusion about someone based on one instance or even a > few. Surely, as students of the human psyche, we must agree on that > premise! > > This exchange is dangerously getting close to what some may perceive > as a 'chat line' material. We must be careful, or at least I must! > And I am not being paranoid ;-) > > RR > > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Much before I even understood the 'a' of astrology, I was a > student of > > human life and my estimation of you, Sir, is not based on pure > > astrological considerations, so the data is immaterial. > > > > My only point in the jealousy thread is that isnt jealousy also a > matter > > of perception. > > > > A person may be considered as jealous by a large section of people > who > > know him/her ..so the arudha thought flew in, was just rambling > against > > serious technical astrological discussion. > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think you have overestimated my intelligence, Rishi (probably > > > based on wrong data ;-) > > > > > > I am not really following the message you are trying to convey! > > > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , rishi shukla > > > rishi_2000in@ wrote: > > > > > > > > My folly, when I said, me..it did not really mean 'me' > > > > but anyone; similarly 'RRji' here was only an analogy > > > > for any person percieving another person..was more in > > > > a lighter vein........ > > > > What I meant was isnt this a perception question also? > > > > And jealousy in itself is required as a motivation to > > > > go ahead, it need not only carry a negative > > > > connotation. Many dimensions to a wor as always! > > > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > --- crystal pages rrgb@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > 'RRji' never claimed that he has some special > > > > > knowledge or divine > > > > > whatever, dear Rishi ji! I do not judge people, > > > > > especially not > > > > > people like you who participate so openly on this > > > > > forum without axes > > > > > to grind or personal agendas. Why would I think you > > > > > are jealous? > > > > > > > > > > I am not convinced that arudha really describes the > > > > > 'internet image' > > > > > or persona. It is an additional layer of maya :-) > > > > > > > > > > When Sanjayji/Narasimhaji talked about arudha they > > > > > were talking > > > > > about the face to face image, which itself is often > > > > > a challenge to > > > > > figure out. The even fewer dimensions revealed on > > > > > internet create > > > > > another layer. It is as if soul is a 128 bit image, > > > > > while face to > > > > > face is 32 bit and internet is 8 bit! It is best not > > > > > to judge what > > > > > we see on the internet. Always believed in that and > > > > > for good reasons > > > > > that I would not waste bandwidth of the forum on :-) > > > > > > > > > > Jealousy is not intangible. Just as cancer is not. > > > > > It takes time > > > > > before it shows up, but once it does, it is often > > > > > too late! > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am wrong!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And then again, isnot jealousy something > > > > > intangible, I may think I > > > > > am > > > > > > not jealous, RRji may think I am! > > > > > > Perceptions, illusions and maya; does arudha come > > > > > into picture? > > > > > > How do I know it isnt merely jealousy operating > > > > > but a combination > > > > > of > > > > > > fear and greed too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal > > > > > pages" <rrgb@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ann -- if you happen to be reading this, thank > > > > > you very much for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > data for your cousin. I am sure someone may > > > > > volunteer to look at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > chart and enlighten us, or if that does not > > > > > happen, as we get > > > > > more > > > > > > > factors, we all can put our heads together and > > > > > see if we can > > > > > > explain > > > > > > > based on the new information that is coming out > > > > > -- particularly > > > > > > > interesting is Mr. Varun's posts on Lal Kitab > > > > > (Red book -- I am > > > > > > > being presumptive in assuming that you do not > > > > > speak hindustani, > > > > > > > hindi or urdu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing, the only way to learn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > "miss_astro19" > > > > > > > <miss_astro19@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance > > > > > this discussion > > > > > than > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > a living example of such behaviours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my > > > > > cousin, now this > > > > > > boy > > > > > > > > has a very jealous nature, he is very > > > > > possesive, > > > > > > > > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the > > > > > times very > > > > > > > negative, > > > > > > > > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very > > > > > democratic. he is a > > > > > > > strange > > > > > > > > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had > > > > > many strange > > > > > > > > inferirority complexes, tried to commit > > > > > suicide many times, > > > > > fell > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > got decived in love thrice, but he is a > > > > > genius, i 'm sure > > > > > there > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > few people when it comes to brain like him > > > > > specially when it > > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom > > > > > got results of his > > > > > > > hard > > > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we can discuss after having his chart > > > > > analysed all factors > > > > > > > leading > > > > > > > > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > > > > > > > > tob--- 16:08 > > > > > > > > pob--- ajmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , K > > > > > Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is > > > > > controlled > > > > > > > > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically > > > > > mind is > > > > > > > > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > > > > > > > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in > > > > > association > > > > > > > > > with malefics or placement of moon or > > > > > aspects to moon > > > > > > > > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous > > > > > feelings. I > > > > > > > > > have observed that people with this jealous > > > > > nature do > > > > > > > > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th > > > > > and 12th > > > > > > > > > house comes to play. Individuals with > > > > > consistent > > > > > > > > > jealous feelings are the ones where > > > > > astrological study > > > > > > > > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a > > > > > normal human > > > > > > > > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle > > > > > manner, maybe > > > > > > > > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably > > > > > an inbuilt > > > > > > > > > behaviour of every individual who lives in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > material world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by > > > > > diverting our > > > > > > > > > thoughts to God and trying to help the > > > > > needy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May god bless all of us. > > > > > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best > > > > > spam protection > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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