for G.B.Prashant Kumar ji- 6/3/6 my thread stops here.

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Hi Arjun,

 

I wish with this one I will end the thread from my side.

 

I had addressed the mail to all who used it as a thread just saw 3 people in

the same order I put that i read them.

 

"Hi Rishi, Arjun, Srinivas, others

 

am not sure on the context of my name & with the tag esp `moral boosters'."

 

 

it was rishi who responded to it first so I again asked him and aslo WONDERED

if you (Arjun) may be able to throw some light as he (rishi) could not

 

I STILL CAN'T FIGURE WHAT THE MAIL WAS ABOUT

 

if it was about my mail on MT, which u, urself suggested can have it

discussed.

if on this wanted to gather more for a serious debate than just rush a post,

but any no WILL NOT DO it.

 

I had nowhere shown any religiois bias and said there r other good people who

r worth quoting, discussing on the morality threads on, and never noticed with

greater zeal, reach. but not known to many.

 

plus if the SAME YARDSTICK is/was used by people continuing to quote MT, her

prayers is this part of the purpouse of the site-it is as MUCH NOT ASTROLOGY

either.

 

and these r there from what i read for over a year in the group, I am here

since end of Jan, anyway i read just 3 mails today as my name figured in them,

and 1 more now, so the enthusiasm to move on is just not there, will see the

site sure will not reply to any mail unless it is challenging my sense to

respond.

 

My interests are health, finance, divorces, soprts/apitutdes, foreign

travel/residence, marriage etc of these HEALTH may alone push me to respond.

 

AND ANYTIME U WANT ME TO RESPONED TO ANY CASE U CAN SEND A MAIL, WILL DO, but

no more replies, chains from me.

 

 

as it is with my sight limitations which I have already told u, am able read

and responmed to 10-15 of the 40 odd i used to read have a backlong of over

1900 mails to read.

 

Regards

 

Prashant

 

 

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant garu

 

even though you addressed this mail to rishiji, since you asked me to throw

light am responding.

when i vent my views in response to your mail i observed that i am wasting my

energy on discussing things which fit only in private chatrooms. also i

realised that if i indulge in such writings (of

course all facts only) slowly i may start wasting the space of this august

group by writing one hundred one word or one line mails every day in which the

queries related to astrology and reading of charts get obfuscated. no more you

can see me in any such threads where astrology is not related.

i wrote a mail specifically subjected and addressed to you. but if others

make it a thread, you may ask them for using your name as subject if you does

not like a long thread with your name as a subject.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hi Rishi,

>

> thanks for the reply, sure it did not originate from me that is

WHY THE RESPONSE /QUERRY ABOUT IT. and used the space to convey a

few points to the series that r already doing the rounds on some.

>

> Only Arjun can throw some light I guess as the 1st one with

my name came2me from his ID, then urs so I addressed it2u and him

as well.

> .

> here i have abbrivated the subject line2save space and add some

words.

>

> MOST IMPORTANTLY IF ANY MAIL ORIGINATES FROM ME as seen below it

may be as gbp_kumar or name with initials at the end.

>

> this is due to the computer databases convience to index names

1st then initials else one won't be able to see the required namees

even tel dir after computers came in follow this trend..

>

>

> Prashant

>

> rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: Perplexing , how you

figure in it , prashantji, the message may have originated from you

maybe. I was just commenting on how far we have

> deviated from the original purpose of the group and hoping that

I am in a minority while observing it.

> but anything which boosts moral is welcome, thanks for your

elaborate response!

> regards

> rishi

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rishi, Arjun, Srinivas, others

> >

> > I am not sure on the context of my name & with the tag esp

> `moral boosters'.

> >

> > does this mean to be a compliment or reminder to do the

moral

> part I would like some clarity how do u rate my replies, r they

> wanting in any detail, character?

> >

> > i had only mentioned in a response to a discussion on

> astrologers charge/not charging, quoting B V RAMAN. who said u

can

> charge some amount for survival and not pinch/ hurt the

queriest,

> as they most often come only in grief or some strain.

> >

> >

> > And NOWHERE I'VE SAID I OFFER ONLY PAID SERVICE. on the

contrary

> in the past 25 yrs i've never demanded anything from anyone.

except

> if I gvie a printed horoscope I do charge as it costs- s/w and

the

> material used so stick to the rates given by the seller.

> > consultation accepted moslty nothing' sometimes whatever

they

> gave.

> >

> > the founder secretory of ICAS Late K. ASHWATTAPA, was also

my

> first guru. he gave me an example in his pforessional life.

> >

> > he was an architect gave stablity certificates to over 500

> schools in Madras, learnt sanskrit, Homeopathy astrology in his

> late 50's.

> >

> > HE TESTED that in a month when he was destined to get money

> acording to his horoscope said for the whole month he will not

take

> money and do all work FREE.

> >

> > on the 30th day someone came to him and paid him in advance

for

> the job for next month he refused to take it and said please

come

> tommorrow i will not take money today as it is my 30th day test

> period not to take money.

> >

> > the customer a treasurer, secy. of a trust said no sir

tomorrow

> a new person will take over his job so the coffers must be

empty

> so please take it, he thrust it and left.

> >

> > SO WHAT IS YOUS WILL COME TO YOU ANYWAY, SO BY ASKING OR

> PUTTING A RATE CARD, will make no difference to your destiny.

> >

> > he also tested due to my association with him for a long

time,

> my main Guru is Sri. K Subbanna from Bangalore later who used

> RAMAN'S AYANAMSA ash his guru N N Krishna rao used and said it

> works better.

> >

> > Sri ashwattappa also tested it with a few cases and found it

> working like when auspicious results appear to be working at

the

> end of a dasa, when u shift the ayanamsa it will be the

begining of

> the next dasa which is logical why should any dasa give

auspicious

> results inthe tail end with nor combinations for such a delay.

> >

> > he like all of raman's bitter critics never knew what the

diff

> between raman's and lahiri's ayanmasa was yet did their best to

> decry it. but he was open and tested and foun dit working.

> > likewise Sro PS SHASTRI another scholar said for dasas

Rama's

> works better for planetry positions use Lahiris, this is

hyporcacy

> at its best if it works it works fully with the hcanged amsas,

dasa

> balances as it is just give it a shot u will see for yurselves

be

> open, use min 3 levles of Vimshottari dasa. the only dasa

according

> to Parashara to work in KALI YOGA.

> >

> >

> > Max u can do is like some do here replies in this group are

free

> to personal ID's are charged so a person genuinely in need if

he

> feels he needs more direct, personal answers and is willing to

pay

> he must have that satisfaction, so let it be his/her.

> >

> > I am sorry fhe lenght of this but felt i can cover things in

a

> broad prespective.

> >

> > Prashant

> > 6/3/6

> >

> >

> >

> > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > Friends,

> > Misunderstandings abound, many a members seem to be confused

> about the

> > purpose of this forum...let me just copy and paste what the

> founders of

> > this group thought about it:

> >

> > Welcome!

> > Jyotish Remedies is one of the two largest forums on Vedic

> Astrology

> > (Also called Hindu Astrology or Jyotish) on the net. Owned

by

> Tanvir

> > Chowdhury, the forum is a platform for both beginners and

> experts to

> > discuss on chart analysis, remedial measures and all other

> related

> > topics.

> >

> > Jyotish Remedies has members all over the world who exchange

> ideas and

> > thoughts in a friendly, respectful sphere. This forum is for

> discussing

> > theories, concepts etc. and not for a charity of free

readings.

> So you

> > are welcome to post your data, but we do not assure to

respond

> to each

> > and every query.

> >

> > Obviously, we have lost sight of the purpose here. Just my

> opinion , I

> > hope I am wrong

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Rishi

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear rishi ji

> > >

> > > even though you addressed this mail only to two

individuals,

> since

> > > you were referrring on the usage of this group, as an

affected

> > > member i am responding.

> > >

> > > without halving, the full sentence (to get the full

meaning)

> of what

> > > srinivasji wrote is as follows:

> > >

> > > "Also a kind request to the fellow seekers is that they

should

> > > understand the financial needs of the jyotishis and donot

> comeback

> > > with serial queries (sometimes with changed id's) and

spoil the

> > > precious time of jyotishis."

> > >

> > > last year i found few astrologers (to be precise 3 or 4)

who

> charge

> > > money from their customers posted their queries in this

group

> some

> > > in their own names and some in different IDs (created by

them

> only)

> > > and solicited readings from this group. myself, krishnanji

and

> > > ashutoshji answered most of these queries without knowing

> this. a

> > > few of these astrologers also took readings and help from

me on

> > > private mails and chats as well. be it me, krishnanji,

> ashutoshji

> > > or any astrologer who is reading charts in this group

freely,

> we are

> > > all doing this free service spending our time, money and

> energy to

> > > help the querents directly. upset wih this exploitation of

the

> > > group, i stopped free reading of charts for some time

before

> > > resuming again now. on the other hand there are many

genuine

> > > astrologers who speak truth who directly exchanged private

> mails

> > > with me saying that on the charts of their customers, they

> wanted

> > > second opinion and took my service which i did free of

cost as

> a

> > > respect for these astrologers.

> > >

> > > in this backdrop i appreciate rishi ji for highlighting

the

> usage of

> > > this group by such professional astrologers.

> > >

> > > having said this, if any professional astrologer posts a

query

> in

> > > the group saying that this is the chart of my customer on

> which i

> > > need your opinions, we would be happy to discuss the same

in

> the

> > > group itself as a person who speaks truth is equivalent to

god.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and regards

> > > arjun

> > >

> > >

> > > , rishi shukla

> > > rishi_2000in@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Krishnanji, Srinivasji

> > > > There are innumerable Jyotishis in here and outside

> > > > the net, there are many querists seeking help from

> > > > them to alleviate their sufferings.

> > > > The sufferings of a person originate from karmik

> > > > mistakes, whether of this life or of any other. The

> > > > solutions therefore cannot be short term and magical,

> > > > they have to be long term.

> > > > The jyotishi or the astrologer who has a clear

> > > > conscience at times is able to work some sort of

> > > > 'magic' to help out a person in acute distress but

> > > > that is not the case everytime.

> > > > If such effective remedial measures could work wonders

> > > > everytime one wouldnt see anyone in this net based

> > > > forums, for we all know that beyond this net, there

> > > > are thousands of good astrologers spread all over

> > > > India and outside India.

> > > > Now when we talk of 'balmy talk' or solace, thats what

> > > > is being done in most of the cases, whether we provide

> > > > a gemstone or a mantra or anyother upaya, we are

> > > > strengthening the resolve of the querists to face

> > > > his/her problems. So let us accept our limitations ,

> > > > we are ordinary human beings not superhuman who are

> > > > with a dose of proper jyotish remedy changing the fate

> > > > of a querist.

> > > > These jyotish forums here are meant more to understand

> > > > jyotish, they are not meant to solicit professional

> > > > astrologers and their business, they can perhaps their

> > > > host their own sites and conduct business. These

> > > > forums are more for understanding the basis, the

> > > > philsphy of jyotish etc.

> > > >

> > > > This is a vital issue which is being broached. Members

> > > > ..do we need professional astrologers soliciting

> > > > business here or using this forum to generate their

> > > > business....I quote this from this message:

> > > > ''so a kind request to the fellow seekers is

> > > > > that they should understand the financial needs of

> > > > > the jyotishis and donot comeback with serial

> > > > queries''

> > > >

> > > > regards to all of you...and may the great Lord of

> > > > time, Lord Mahakaal give you all the understanding

> > > > that jyotishis cannot change human fates they can only

> > > > direct human beings to the right path of life

> > > >

> > > > rishi

> > > > rishi

 

 

 

Prashant

 

 

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