Purpose:[JR]4G.B.Prashant Kumar ji:moral boosters ? 6-3/6-2

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Hi Rishi,

 

thanks for the reply, sure it did not originate from me that is WHY THE

RESPONSE /QUERRY ABOUT IT. and used the space to convey a few points to the

series that r already doing the rounds on some.

 

Only Arjun can throw some light I guess as the 1st one with my name came2me

from his ID, then urs so I addressed it2u and him as well.

.

here i have abbrivated the subject line2save space and add some words.

 

MOST IMPORTANTLY IF ANY MAIL ORIGINATES FROM ME as seen below it may be as

gbp_kumar or name with initials at the end.

 

this is due to the computer databases convience to index names 1st then

initials else one won't be able to see the required namees even tel dir after

computers came in follow this trend..

 

 

Prashant

 

rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: Perplexing , how you figure

in it , prashantji, the message may have originated from you maybe. I was just

commenting on how far we have

deviated from the original purpose of the group and hoping that I am in a

minority while observing it.

but anything which boosts moral is welcome, thanks for your elaborate

response!

regards

rishi

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hi Rishi, Arjun, Srinivas, others

>

> I am not sure on the context of my name & with the tag esp

`moral boosters'.

>

> does this mean to be a compliment or reminder to do the moral

part I would like some clarity how do u rate my replies, r they

wanting in any detail, character?

>

> i had only mentioned in a response to a discussion on

astrologers charge/not charging, quoting B V RAMAN. who said u can

charge some amount for survival and not pinch/ hurt the queriest,

as they most often come only in grief or some strain.

>

>

> And NOWHERE I'VE SAID I OFFER ONLY PAID SERVICE. on the contrary

in the past 25 yrs i've never demanded anything from anyone. except

if I gvie a printed horoscope I do charge as it costs- s/w and the

material used so stick to the rates given by the seller.

> consultation accepted moslty nothing' sometimes whatever they

gave.

>

> the founder secretory of ICAS Late K. ASHWATTAPA, was also my

first guru. he gave me an example in his pforessional life.

>

> he was an architect gave stablity certificates to over 500

schools in Madras, learnt sanskrit, Homeopathy astrology in his

late 50's.

>

> HE TESTED that in a month when he was destined to get money

acording to his horoscope said for the whole month he will not take

money and do all work FREE.

>

> on the 30th day someone came to him and paid him in advance for

the job for next month he refused to take it and said please come

tommorrow i will not take money today as it is my 30th day test

period not to take money.

>

> the customer a treasurer, secy. of a trust said no sir tomorrow

a new person will take over his job so the coffers must be empty

so please take it, he thrust it and left.

>

> SO WHAT IS YOUS WILL COME TO YOU ANYWAY, SO BY ASKING OR

PUTTING A RATE CARD, will make no difference to your destiny.

>

> he also tested due to my association with him for a long time,

my main Guru is Sri. K Subbanna from Bangalore later who used

RAMAN'S AYANAMSA ash his guru N N Krishna rao used and said it

works better.

>

> Sri ashwattappa also tested it with a few cases and found it

working like when auspicious results appear to be working at the

end of a dasa, when u shift the ayanamsa it will be the begining of

the next dasa which is logical why should any dasa give auspicious

results inthe tail end with nor combinations for such a delay.

>

> he like all of raman's bitter critics never knew what the diff

between raman's and lahiri's ayanmasa was yet did their best to

decry it. but he was open and tested and foun dit working.

> likewise Sro PS SHASTRI another scholar said for dasas Rama's

works better for planetry positions use Lahiris, this is hyporcacy

at its best if it works it works fully with the hcanged amsas, dasa

balances as it is just give it a shot u will see for yurselves be

open, use min 3 levles of Vimshottari dasa. the only dasa according

to Parashara to work in KALI YOGA.

>

>

> Max u can do is like some do here replies in this group are free

to personal ID's are charged so a person genuinely in need if he

feels he needs more direct, personal answers and is willing to pay

he must have that satisfaction, so let it be his/her.

>

> I am sorry fhe lenght of this but felt i can cover things in a

broad prespective.

>

> Prashant

> 6/3/6

>

>

>

> rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote:

> Friends,

> Misunderstandings abound, many a members seem to be confused

about the

> purpose of this forum...let me just copy and paste what the

founders of

> this group thought about it:

>

> Welcome!

> Jyotish Remedies is one of the two largest forums on Vedic

Astrology

> (Also called Hindu Astrology or Jyotish) on the net. Owned by

Tanvir

> Chowdhury, the forum is a platform for both beginners and

experts to

> discuss on chart analysis, remedial measures and all other

related

> topics.

>

> Jyotish Remedies has members all over the world who exchange

ideas and

> thoughts in a friendly, respectful sphere. This forum is for

discussing

> theories, concepts etc. and not for a charity of free readings.

So you

> are welcome to post your data, but we do not assure to respond

to each

> and every query.

>

> Obviously, we have lost sight of the purpose here. Just my

opinion , I

> hope I am wrong

>

> regards

>

> Rishi

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear rishi ji

> >

> > even though you addressed this mail only to two individuals,

since

> > you were referrring on the usage of this group, as an affected

> > member i am responding.

> >

> > without halving, the full sentence (to get the full meaning)

of what

> > srinivasji wrote is as follows:

> >

> > "Also a kind request to the fellow seekers is that they should

> > understand the financial needs of the jyotishis and donot

comeback

> > with serial queries (sometimes with changed id's) and spoil the

> > precious time of jyotishis."

> >

> > last year i found few astrologers (to be precise 3 or 4)who

charge

> > money from their customers posted their queries in this group

some

> > in their own names and some in different IDs (created by them

only)

> > and solicited readings from this group. myself, krishnanji and

> > ashutoshji answered most of these queries without knowing

this. a

> > few of these astrologers also took readings and help from me on

> > private mails and chats as well. be it me, krishnanji,

ashutoshji

> > or any astrologer who is reading charts in this group freely,

we are

> > all doing this free service spending our time, money and

energy to

> > help the querents directly. upset wih this exploitation of the

> > group, i stopped free reading of charts for some time before

> > resuming again now. on the other hand there are many genuine

> > astrologers who speak truth who directly exchanged private

mails

> > with me saying that on the charts of their customers, they

wanted

> > second opinion and took my service which i did free of cost as

a

> > respect for these astrologers.

> >

> > in this backdrop i appreciate rishi ji for highlighting the

usage of

> > this group by such professional astrologers.

> >

> > having said this, if any professional astrologer posts a query

in

> > the group saying that this is the chart of my customer on

which i

> > need your opinions, we would be happy to discuss the same in

the

> > group itself as a person who speaks truth is equivalent to god.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> > , rishi shukla

> > rishi_2000in@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Krishnanji, Srinivasji

> > > There are innumerable Jyotishis in here and outside

> > > the net, there are many querists seeking help from

> > > them to alleviate their sufferings.

> > > The sufferings of a person originate from karmik

> > > mistakes, whether of this life or of any other. The

> > > solutions therefore cannot be short term and magical,

> > > they have to be long term.

> > > The jyotishi or the astrologer who has a clear

> > > conscience at times is able to work some sort of

> > > 'magic' to help out a person in acute distress but

> > > that is not the case everytime.

> > > If such effective remedial measures could work wonders

> > > everytime one wouldnt see anyone in this net based

> > > forums, for we all know that beyond this net, there

> > > are thousands of good astrologers spread all over

> > > India and outside India.

> > > Now when we talk of 'balmy talk' or solace, thats what

> > > is being done in most of the cases, whether we provide

> > > a gemstone or a mantra or anyother upaya, we are

> > > strengthening the resolve of the querists to face

> > > his/her problems. So let us accept our limitations ,

> > > we are ordinary human beings not superhuman who are

> > > with a dose of proper jyotish remedy changing the fate

> > > of a querist.

> > > These jyotish forums here are meant more to understand

> > > jyotish, they are not meant to solicit professional

> > > astrologers and their business, they can perhaps their

> > > host their own sites and conduct business. These

> > > forums are more for understanding the basis, the

> > > philsphy of jyotish etc.

> > >

> > > This is a vital issue which is being broached. Members

> > > ..do we need professional astrologers soliciting

> > > business here or using this forum to generate their

> > > business....I quote this from this message:

> > > ''so a kind request to the fellow seekers is

> > > > that they should understand the financial needs of

> > > > the jyotishis and donot comeback with serial

> > > queries''

> > >

> > > regards to all of you...and may the great Lord of

> > > time, Lord Mahakaal give you all the understanding

> > > that jyotishis cannot change human fates they can only

> > > direct human beings to the right path of life

> > >

> > > rishi

> > > rishi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Prashant Ji,

You are absolutelt correct: SO WHAT IS YOUS WILL COME TO YOU ANYWAY, SO BY

ASKING OR PUTTING A RATE CARD, will make no difference to your destiny.

Aboout palnet's position based on Lahris and dasas based on Raman's are

wonderful revealations for a stuedent like me

Thanx

Krishnan

>

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

Hi Rishi,

 

thanks for the reply, sure it did not originate from me that is WHY THE

RESPONSE /QUERRY ABOUT IT. and used the space to convey a few points to the

series that r already doing the rounds on some.

 

Only Arjun can throw some light I guess as the 1st one with my name came2me

from his ID, then urs so I addressed it2u and him as well.

.

here i have abbrivated the subject line2save space and add some words.

 

MOST IMPORTANTLY IF ANY MAIL ORIGINATES FROM ME as seen below it may be as

gbp_kumar or name with initials at the end.

 

this is due to the computer databases convience to index names 1st then

initials else one won't be able to see the required namees even tel dir after

computers came in follow this trend..

 

 

Prashant

 

rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: Perplexing , how you figure

in it , prashantji, the message may have originated from you maybe. I was just

commenting on how far we have

deviated from the original purpose of the group and hoping that I am in a

minority while observing it.

but anything which boosts moral is welcome, thanks for your elaborate

response!

regards

rishi

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hi Rishi, Arjun, Srinivas, others

>

> I am not sure on the context of my name & with the tag esp

`moral boosters'.

>

> does this mean to be a compliment or reminder to do the moral

part I would like some clarity how do u rate my replies, r they

wanting in any detail, character?

>

> i had only mentioned in a response to a discussion on

astrologers charge/not charging, quoting B V RAMAN. who said u can

charge some amount for survival and not pinch/ hurt the queriest,

as they most often come only in grief or some strain.

>

>

> And NOWHERE I'VE SAID I OFFER ONLY PAID SERVICE. on the contrary

in the past 25 yrs i've never demanded anything from anyone. except

if I gvie a printed horoscope I do charge as it costs- s/w and the

material used so stick to the rates given by the seller.

> consultation accepted moslty nothing' sometimes whatever they

gave.

>

> the founder secretory of ICAS Late K. ASHWATTAPA, was also my

first guru. he gave me an example in his pforessional life.

>

> he was an architect gave stablity certificates to over 500

schools in Madras, learnt sanskrit, Homeopathy astrology in his

late 50's.

>

> HE TESTED that in a month when he was destined to get money

acording to his horoscope said for the whole month he will not take

money and do all work FREE.

>

> on the 30th day someone came to him and paid him in advance for

the job for next month he refused to take it and said please come

tommorrow i will not take money today as it is my 30th day test

period not to take money.

>

> the customer a treasurer, secy. of a trust said no sir tomorrow

a new person will take over his job so the coffers must be empty

so please take it, he thrust it and left.

>

> SO WHAT IS YOUS WILL COME TO YOU ANYWAY, SO BY ASKING OR

PUTTING A RATE CARD, will make no difference to your destiny.

>

> he also tested due to my association with him for a long time,

my main Guru is Sri. K Subbanna from Bangalore later who used

RAMAN'S AYANAMSA ash his guru N N Krishna rao used and said it

works better.

>

> Sri ashwattappa also tested it with a few cases and found it

working like when auspicious results appear to be working at the

end of a dasa, when u shift the ayanamsa it will be the begining of

the next dasa which is logical why should any dasa give auspicious

results inthe tail end with nor combinations for such a delay.

>

> he like all of raman's bitter critics never knew what the diff

between raman's and lahiri's ayanmasa was yet did their best to

decry it. but he was open and tested and foun dit working.

> likewise Sro PS SHASTRI another scholar said for dasas Rama's

works better for planetry positions use Lahiris, this is hyporcacy

at its best if it works it works fully with the hcanged amsas, dasa

balances as it is just give it a shot u will see for yurselves be

open, use min 3 levles of Vimshottari dasa. the only dasa according

to Parashara to work in KALI YOGA.

>

>

> Max u can do is like some do here replies in this group are free

to personal ID's are charged so a person genuinely in need if he

feels he needs more direct, personal answers and is willing to pay

he must have that satisfaction, so let it be his/her.

>

> I am sorry fhe lenght of this but felt i can cover things in a

broad prespective.

>

> Prashant

> 6/3/6

>

>

>

> rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote:

> Friends,

> Misunderstandings abound, many a members seem to be confused

about the

> purpose of this forum...let me just copy and paste what the

founders of

> this group thought about it:

>

> Welcome!

> Jyotish Remedies is one of the two largest forums on Vedic

Astrology

> (Also called Hindu Astrology or Jyotish) on the net. Owned by

Tanvir

> Chowdhury, the forum is a platform for both beginners and

experts to

> discuss on chart analysis, remedial measures and all other

related

> topics.

>

> Jyotish Remedies has members all over the world who exchange

ideas and

> thoughts in a friendly, respectful sphere. This forum is for

discussing

> theories, concepts etc. and not for a charity of free readings.

So you

> are welcome to post your data, but we do not assure to respond

to each

> and every query.

>

> Obviously, we have lost sight of the purpose here. Just my

opinion , I

> hope I am wrong

>

> regards

>

> Rishi

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear rishi ji

> >

> > even though you addressed this mail only to two individuals,

since

> > you were referrring on the usage of this group, as an affected

> > member i am responding.

> >

> > without halving, the full sentence (to get the full meaning)

of what

> > srinivasji wrote is as follows:

> >

> > "Also a kind request to the fellow seekers is that they should

> > understand the financial needs of the jyotishis and donot

comeback

> > with serial queries (sometimes with changed id's) and spoil the

> > precious time of jyotishis."

> >

> > last year i found few astrologers (to be precise 3 or 4)who

charge

> > money from their customers posted their queries in this group

some

> > in their own names and some in different IDs (created by them

only)

> > and solicited readings from this group. myself, krishnanji and

> > ashutoshji answered most of these queries without knowing

this. a

> > few of these astrologers also took readings and help from me on

> > private mails and chats as well. be it me, krishnanji,

ashutoshji

> > or any astrologer who is reading charts in this group freely,

we are

> > all doing this free service spending our time, money and

energy to

> > help the querents directly. upset wih this exploitation of the

> > group, i stopped free reading of charts for some time before

> > resuming again now. on the other hand there are many genuine

> > astrologers who speak truth who directly exchanged private

mails

> > with me saying that on the charts of their customers, they

wanted

> > second opinion and took my service which i did free of cost as

a

> > respect for these astrologers.

> >

> > in this backdrop i appreciate rishi ji for highlighting the

usage of

> > this group by such professional astrologers.

> >

> > having said this, if any professional astrologer posts a query

in

> > the group saying that this is the chart of my customer on

which i

> > need your opinions, we would be happy to discuss the same in

the

> > group itself as a person who speaks truth is equivalent to god.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> > , rishi shukla

> > rishi_2000in@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Krishnanji, Srinivasji

> > > There are innumerable Jyotishis in here and outside

> > > the net, there are many querists seeking help from

> > > them to alleviate their sufferings.

> > > The sufferings of a person originate from karmik

> > > mistakes, whether of this life or of any other. The

> > > solutions therefore cannot be short term and magical,

> > > they have to be long term.

> > > The jyotishi or the astrologer who has a clear

> > > conscience at times is able to work some sort of

> > > 'magic' to help out a person in acute distress but

> > > that is not the case everytime.

> > > If such effective remedial measures could work wonders

> > > everytime one wouldnt see anyone in this net based

> > > forums, for we all know that beyond this net, there

> > > are thousands of good astrologers spread all over

> > > India and outside India.

> > > Now when we talk of 'balmy talk' or solace, thats what

> > > is being done in most of the cases, whether we provide

> > > a gemstone or a mantra or anyother upaya, we are

> > > strengthening the resolve of the querists to face

> > > his/her problems. So let us accept our limitations ,

> > > we are ordinary human beings not superhuman who are

> > > with a dose of proper jyotish remedy changing the fate

> > > of a querist.

> > > These jyotish forums here are meant more to understand

> > > jyotish, they are not meant to solicit professional

> > > astrologers and their business, they can perhaps their

> > > host their own sites and conduct business. These

> > > forums are more for understanding the basis, the

> > > philsphy of jyotish etc.

> > >

> > > This is a vital issue which is being broached. Members

> > > ..do we need professional astrologers soliciting

> > > business here or using this forum to generate their

> > > business....I quote this from this message:

> > > ''so a kind request to the fellow seekers is

> > > > that they should understand the financial needs of

> > > > the jyotishis and donot comeback with serial

> > > queries''

> > >

> > > regards to all of you...and may the great Lord of

> > > time, Lord Mahakaal give you all the understanding

> > > that jyotishis cannot change human fates they can only

> > > direct human beings to the right path of life

> > >

> > > rishi

> > > rishi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

astrology Astrology

chart Astrology

software

 

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

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>

> Terms of

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>

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>

> Prashant

>

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> Mail

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OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

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