Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Learned Astrologers' What are the astrological attributes which suggest tolerance and forgiveness in a person? regards rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 these must be beyond astrology for astrology does not describe saints and these are not attributes of the common man! (and women -- did not mean to ignore the sisters!) RR , "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Learned Astrologers' > What are the astrological attributes which suggest tolerance and > forgiveness in a person? > > regards > > rishi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Allow me to say that if common men and more importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, this world would not have reached where it is. --- crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > not describe saints > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > women -- did not > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > RR > > , > "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > tolerance and > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 When Jesus forgave and tolerated, did others? How about Gandhi? There are examples of such icons of tolerance and forgiveness while the billions around them did not necessarily act similarly. Yet the world is still here and doing not too poorly overall, though don't tell the young soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that I said so! I am not saying that tolerance and forgiveness are not ideal but given the examples we have witnessed, all it takes is one saint to come along and they can make a difference for a few hundred years and then the crap begins again! Anyone seen a Saint recently? Or are we in for another hundred some years of desolation and such while we send our young able-bodied sons to wars that were neither their creation, nor responsibility in most cases. And yet, each culture, each nation, each group of *human*s have sacrificed their best and strongest -- young soldiers - - to justify what a bunch of constipated, no good old politicians or kings thought would look good on their mantle or during their next election speech. Who wants to talk to me about forgiveness and tolerance? RR , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, > this world would not have reached where it is. > > --- crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > > not describe saints > > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > > women -- did not > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > RR > > > > , > > "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > > tolerance and > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 I do want to talk about tolerance and forgiveness, all of us everyday do our bit in forgiving and tolerating. There may be violence and intolerance all around us, Sir, yet we survive. There are hundreds of acts of forgiving everyday, if there are thousands of acts of pettiness, of bigotry, of hatred. So kindly elaborate how should we start evaluating these atribites. regards rishi , "crystal pages" <rrgb wrote: > > When Jesus forgave and tolerated, did others? How about Gandhi? > There are examples of such icons of tolerance and forgiveness while > the billions around them did not necessarily act similarly. > > Yet the world is still here and doing not too poorly overall, though > don't tell the young soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that I said so! > > I am not saying that tolerance and forgiveness are not ideal but > given the examples we have witnessed, all it takes is one saint to > come along and they can make a difference for a few hundred years > and then the crap begins again! > > Anyone seen a Saint recently? Or are we in for another hundred some > years of desolation and such while we send our young able-bodied > sons to wars that were neither their creation, nor responsibility in > most cases. And yet, each culture, each nation, each group of > *human*s have sacrificed their best and strongest -- young soldiers - > - to justify what a bunch of constipated, no good old politicians or > kings thought would look good on their mantle or during their next > election speech. > > Who wants to talk to me about forgiveness and tolerance? > > RR > > , rishi shukla > rishi_2000in@ wrote: > > > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > > importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, > > this world would not have reached where it is. > > > > --- crystal pages rrgb@ wrote: > > > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > > > not describe saints > > > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > > > women -- did not > > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > > > tolerance and > > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Rishi ji, Tolerance and forgiveness are the basic components which makes the humanity *human*. Though we see them in abundance in saints, they are prerequisites for every individual to possess atleast in small degrees to differentiate him/her from being *inhuman* Though is is true that having these two in abundance makes their lives in the wilderness most traumatic, nonetheless cathartic, such people often end up crucufied or burnt on the stakes for being heretic.An absence of the two would render any individual incapable of relating to the society, leave alone interacting. Nalini , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, > this world would not have reached where it is. > > --- crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > > not describe saints > > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > > women -- did not > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > RR > > > > , > > "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > > tolerance and > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Naliniji backs me up, RRji, so there you are!! --- auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: > Rishi ji, > Tolerance and forgiveness are the basic components > which makes the > humanity *human*. Though we see them in abundance in > saints, they > are prerequisites for every individual to possess > atleast in small > degrees to differentiate him/her from being > *inhuman* > Though is is true that having these two in abundance > makes their > lives in the wilderness most traumatic, nonetheless > cathartic, such > people often end up crucufied or burnt on the stakes > for being > heretic.An absence of the two would render any > individual incapable > of relating to the society, leave alone interacting. > Nalini > , rishi > shukla > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > > importantly common women did not forgive or > tolerate, > > this world would not have reached where it is. > > > > --- crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > > > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology > does > > > not describe saints > > > and these are not attributes of the common man! > (and > > > women -- did not > > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > > What are the astrological attributes which > suggest > > > tolerance and > > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Rishiji, Did you need one? When you have strong and deep rooted beliefs, I mean the right ones , you dont need a backup, backing, prod and least of all godfathers/godmothers. Though the going may get tough but you( the tough) get going. Nalini , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Naliniji backs me up, RRji, so there you are!! > > --- auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: > > > Rishi ji, > > Tolerance and forgiveness are the basic components > > which makes the > > humanity *human*. Though we see them in abundance in > > saints, they > > are prerequisites for every individual to possess > > atleast in small > > degrees to differentiate him/her from being > > *inhuman* > > Though is is true that having these two in abundance > > makes their > > lives in the wilderness most traumatic, nonetheless > > cathartic, such > > people often end up crucufied or burnt on the stakes > > for being > > heretic.An absence of the two would render any > > individual incapable > > of relating to the society, leave alone interacting. > > Nalini > > , rishi > > shukla > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > > > importantly common women did not forgive or > > tolerate, > > > this world would not have reached where it is. > > > > > > --- crystal pages <rrgb@> wrote: > > > > > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology > > does > > > > not describe saints > > > > and these are not attributes of the common man! > > (and > > > > women -- did not > > > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , > > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > > > What are the astrological attributes which > > suggest > > > > tolerance and > > > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 At times, silence is the best answer. , "auromirra19" <nalini2818 wrote: > > Rishiji, > Did you need one? When you have strong and deep rooted beliefs, I > mean the right ones , you dont need a backup, backing, prod and > least of all godfathers/godmothers. Though the going may get tough > but you( the tough) get going. > > Nalini > > > , rishi shukla > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > Naliniji backs me up, RRji, so there you are!! > > > > --- auromirra19 <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > Rishi ji, > > > Tolerance and forgiveness are the basic components > > > which makes the > > > humanity *human*. Though we see them in abundance in > > > saints, they > > > are prerequisites for every individual to possess > > > atleast in small > > > degrees to differentiate him/her from being > > > *inhuman* > > > Though is is true that having these two in abundance > > > makes their > > > lives in the wilderness most traumatic, nonetheless > > > cathartic, such > > > people often end up crucufied or burnt on the stakes > > > for being > > > heretic.An absence of the two would render any > > > individual incapable > > > of relating to the society, leave alone interacting. > > > Nalini > > > , rishi > > > shukla > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > > > > importantly common women did not forgive or > > > tolerate, > > > > this world would not have reached where it is. > > > > > > > > --- crystal pages <rrgb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology > > > does > > > > > not describe saints > > > > > and these are not attributes of the common man! > > > (and > > > > > women -- did not > > > > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > > > > What are the astrological attributes which > > > suggest > > > > > tolerance and > > > > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 They are also attributes for self actualisation.Be it jesus,Mahatma Gandhi or Martin Luther King.They have shown to the world how humans have unlimited power in their nobel talk and in their lending sympathy to the needed.so limiting to Astrology alone may intend to be professional prejudice.Ofcourse Astrologers tend to be,though it is not true with all astrologers krishnan auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: Rishi ji, Tolerance and forgiveness are the basic components which makes the humanity *human*. Though we see them in abundance in saints, they are prerequisites for every individual to possess atleast in small degrees to differentiate him/her from being *inhuman* Though is is true that having these two in abundance makes their lives in the wilderness most traumatic, nonetheless cathartic, such people often end up crucufied or burnt on the stakes for being heretic.An absence of the two would render any individual incapable of relating to the society, leave alone interacting. Nalini , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, > this world would not have reached where it is. > > --- crystal pages <rrgb wrote: > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > > not describe saints > > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > > women -- did not > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > RR > > > > , > > "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > > tolerance and > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 The age which is around is not the age for saints:"one saint to > come along" After all that media glare around a saint will not be allowed to live as saint. Better we only talk of those who can be saintly but not saints.is there room for them in the present situation? We have cricket palyers,actresses and lot of others around. Even saints too like to rush to the TV glares and yell that they are saints.This is the amusing age and wonderful things to be witnessed. krishnan rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: I do want to talk about tolerance and forgiveness, all of us everyday do our bit in forgiving and tolerating. There may be violence and intolerance all around us, Sir, yet we survive. There are hundreds of acts of forgiving everyday, if there are thousands of acts of pettiness, of bigotry, of hatred. So kindly elaborate how should we start evaluating these atribites. regards rishi , "crystal pages" <rrgb wrote: > > When Jesus forgave and tolerated, did others? How about Gandhi? > There are examples of such icons of tolerance and forgiveness while > the billions around them did not necessarily act similarly. > > Yet the world is still here and doing not too poorly overall, though > don't tell the young soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that I said so! > > I am not saying that tolerance and forgiveness are not ideal but > given the examples we have witnessed, all it takes is one saint to > come along and they can make a difference for a few hundred years > and then the crap begins again! > > Anyone seen a Saint recently? Or are we in for another hundred some > years of desolation and such while we send our young able-bodied > sons to wars that were neither their creation, nor responsibility in > most cases. And yet, each culture, each nation, each group of > *human*s have sacrificed their best and strongest -- young soldiers - > - to justify what a bunch of constipated, no good old politicians or > kings thought would look good on their mantle or during their next > election speech. > > Who wants to talk to me about forgiveness and tolerance? > > RR > > , rishi shukla > rishi_2000in@ wrote: > > > > Allow me to say that if common men and more > > importantly common women did not forgive or tolerate, > > this world would not have reached where it is. > > > > --- crystal pages rrgb@ wrote: > > > > > these must be beyond astrology for astrology does > > > not describe saints > > > and these are not attributes of the common man! (and > > > women -- did not > > > mean to ignore the sisters!) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Learned Astrologers' > > > > What are the astrological attributes which suggest > > > tolerance and > > > > forgiveness in a person? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Rishi ji, namskarams! For good astrologer certainly blessings of jupiter is most required and for tolerance Venus and forgiveness sun and saturn.These attributes have also to be supported through 8th house.Good mercury in kendra become basic.Then between these planets some kind of PAC will always exists. krishnan rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: Learned Astrologers' What are the astrological attributes which suggest tolerance and forgiveness in a person? regards rishi SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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