2-JR] Which Planet To Blame ? And Why ? 2/27 from Mark Kincaid

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Jyotish has this so delicous connotation, as to exactly which planet to blame!

 

For problems of lack of self-confidence, we get to blame...our Suns!

 

Or, if we're experiencing any ennumerable qualities of emotional problems, we

might look to our Moons...

 

Or, maybe still, almighty saturn has raised its ugly head,...and it's casting

all kinds of bizarre,... effects our way!

 

For, accidents, fights, disharmony,...anger, resentment, betrayel,...etc... of

course, we look to Mars.....

 

For, lack of love, sadness in love,... on and on...we look to Venus...

 

For, lack of clarity of mind, can't make the right .... decisions... we look

to Mercury,...

and finally

 

For all sorts of perversions, compulsions, obsessions, even addictions, we get

to blame almighty Rahu!

 

Then, on day, I picked up Parashara, and came across this passage....

 

"In the beginning the Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas, to bestow upon

others, the natural consequences of their actions...."

 

And, all of a sudden I got it...

 

It's not, them, that's to blame...

it's me....!

 

ugh...how depressing,...it's my fault,...my karmas coming back,....

my those things I've sowed,...coming back....

 

ugh.......

 

Then, later, it began to creep in....

if it's really only me, that's to blame...

only me,..that's really the cause of all ....'this'....

 

then, maybe, just maybe.... no one else really stands in my way...

 

and maybe, just maybe I can change my stars.....

because I was the one,...that created them, in the first place!

 

And, thus, began my true Jyotish....

the jyotish of self-acceptance...

and the Jyotish of self-development,...through the process of self-transform-

ation!

 

When you integrate...all the other self-help, modalities of Vedic science, to

the great diagnosic, tool of Jyotish....

 

then, Jyotish, all of a sudden makes more sense,....and immediately...

starts becoming a techology for Enlightenment...!

 

instead of just a symbolism, or language,...about our fates,....

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder

Nature's Astrology

641 472-0000.

http://.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mark,

You are right.Through Astrology one can self actualise and get lot of

satisfaction as it tends to encourage for giving service and extend help.Even

Mars the unpredicatable planet gave in my life immense satisfaction as it made

gave me a real human touch.

less to speak about saturn as it always hinted me to be sober and over

anxious.Mars gave me relentless hope and ambition to do my efforts and karma.As

far as other are concerned, moon always made me spontaneous,jupiter a mix of

good and bad.Good to respect the wholy scripts and bad to make me stand in bad

company.venus,the creative palnet always made me mad about the fair sex and

always to do things differently.mercury made me nervous but logical and very

competitive.sun whom I pray most tires me alot and makes me exhausted.there is

always hope for tomorrow.I do not real understand why we should blame any body

including Ketu as in for me every thing is near and yet far off.Thanx to my 12th

house(wnat to know is in scorpio?)

No planet is really bad and every planet has to be ordered to do their own

contribution to make human being a complete person.Life is an experience to be

cherished.

krishnan

 

m.kincaid wrote:

Jyotish has this so delicous connotation, as to exactly which planet to blame!

 

For problems of lack of self-confidence, we get to blame...our Suns!

 

Or, if we're experiencing any ennumerable qualities of emotional problems, we

might look to our Moons...

 

Or, maybe still, almighty saturn has raised its ugly head,...and it's casting

all kinds of bizarre,... effects our way!

 

For, accidents, fights, disharmony,...anger, resentment, betrayel,...etc... of

course, we look to Mars.....

 

For, lack of love, sadness in love,... on and on...we look to Venus...

 

For, lack of clarity of mind, can't make the right .... decisions... we look

to Mercury,...

and finally

 

For all sorts of perversions, compulsions, obsessions, even addictions, we get

to blame almighty Rahu!

 

Then, on day, I picked up Parashara, and came across this passage....

 

"In the beginning the Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas, to bestow upon

others, the natural consequences of their actions...."

 

And, all of a sudden I got it...

 

It's not, them, that's to blame...

it's me....!

 

ugh...how depressing,...it's my fault,...my karmas coming back,....

my those things I've sowed,...coming back....

 

ugh.......

 

Then, later, it began to creep in....

if it's really only me, that's to blame...

only me,..that's really the cause of all ....'this'....

 

then, maybe, just maybe.... no one else really stands in my way...

 

and maybe, just maybe I can change my stars.....

because I was the one,...that created them, in the first place!

 

And, thus, began my true Jyotish....

the jyotish of self-acceptance...

and the Jyotish of self-development,...through the process of self-transform-

ation!

 

When you integrate...all the other self-help, modalities of Vedic science, to

the great diagnosic, tool of Jyotish....

 

then, Jyotish, all of a sudden makes more sense,....and immediately...

starts becoming a techology for Enlightenment...!

 

instead of just a symbolism, or language,...about our fates,....

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder

Nature's Astrology

641 472-0000.

http://.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

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Krishnan ji,

Your observations mirror mine.I never imagined I would get this

peace or solace from astrology. Sitting idle and my natural interest

in learning astrology made me log on to the groups and what a

fortune behind the doors. I chanced upon Mark's article on the

malefics and wondered, did I always not blame others,( my mars).

That started the ball rolling, the introspection. First the

relationships, then my health then my state of mind, with all the

valuable astrological inputs from the learned members of the forum ,

guidance and of course the Grace of Guru, I am today a very happy

person. In fact with all the conventional parameters to happiness -

health, wealth, family etc at their nadir, I feel the happiest.

There is an inner peace. I strongly believe that the experiences of

this lifetime are not given to us but requested by us, by the soul

in the process of evolving.

If we cry " why me? for all the trials, pain, suffering, grief/ It

is you who wanted them in the first place?

Every experience enriches the soul and when, you sum up, everything

fits into the slot,why 2+2=5 and not 4. Then you find the malefics

in you chart drop their so called mantle. They are no more malefics,

How can you blame them, they are the administrators of justice,they

give you what you asked for.You can be grateful to Saturn for the

unique experiences only he can give,to ketu for all the

detachment... all of them. I do not know if Guru is a functional

malefic in my chart in Sagittarius along with Almighty Saturn, for a

Gemini rising, but my manasika Guru, Sri Raghavendra, has always

guided me along the right path. I always feel blessed with so much

fortune showered on me, Now I cry Why me? What did I do to deserve

all this, this good will, this love and this new peace? I dont know

but I shall always cherish it.

But living here and now with the terra firma beneath , it has been a

very difficult balancing act, again thanks to Saturn, I am marching

on.

Regards

Nalini

"Lord, give me perfect sincerity, that sincerity which will lead me

straight to Thee".

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Mark,

> You are right.Through Astrology one can self actualise and get

lot of satisfaction as it tends to encourage for giving service and

extend help.Even Mars the unpredicatable planet gave in my life

immense satisfaction as it made gave me a real human touch.

> less to speak about saturn as it always hinted me to be sober

and over anxious.Mars gave me relentless hope and ambition to do my

efforts and karma.As far as other are concerned, moon always made me

spontaneous,jupiter a mix of good and bad.Good to respect the wholy

scripts and bad to make me stand in bad company.venus,the creative

palnet always made me mad about the fair sex and always to do things

differently.mercury made me nervous but logical and very

competitive.sun whom I pray most tires me alot and makes me

exhausted.there is always hope for tomorrow.I do not real understand

why we should blame any body including Ketu as in for me every thing

is near and yet far off.Thanx to my 12th house(wnat to know is in

scorpio?)

> No planet is really bad and every planet has to be ordered to do

their own contribution to make human being a complete person.Life is

an experience to be cherished.

> krishnan

>

> m.kincaid wrote:

> Jyotish has this so delicous connotation, as to exactly which

planet to blame!

>

> For problems of lack of self-confidence, we get to blame...our

Suns!

>

> Or, if we're experiencing any ennumerable qualities of emotional

problems, we

> might look to our Moons...

>

> Or, maybe still, almighty saturn has raised its ugly head,...and

it's casting

> all kinds of bizarre,... effects our way!

>

> For, accidents, fights, disharmony,...anger, resentment,

betrayel,...etc... of

> course, we look to Mars.....

>

> For, lack of love, sadness in love,... on and on...we look to

Venus...

>

> For, lack of clarity of mind, can't make the right ....

decisions... we look

> to Mercury,...

> and finally

>

> For all sorts of perversions, compulsions, obsessions, even

addictions, we get

> to blame almighty Rahu!

>

> Then, on day, I picked up Parashara, and came across this

passage....

>

> "In the beginning the Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas, to

bestow upon

> others, the natural consequences of their actions...."

>

> And, all of a sudden I got it...

>

> It's not, them, that's to blame...

> it's me....!

>

> ugh...how depressing,...it's my fault,...my karmas coming back,....

> my those things I've sowed,...coming back....

>

> ugh.......

>

> Then, later, it began to creep in....

> if it's really only me, that's to blame...

> only me,..that's really the cause of all ....'this'....

>

> then, maybe, just maybe.... no one else really stands in my way...

>

> and maybe, just maybe I can change my stars.....

> because I was the one,...that created them, in the first place!

>

> And, thus, began my true Jyotish....

> the jyotish of self-acceptance...

> and the Jyotish of self-development,...through the process of self-

transform-

> ation!

>

> When you integrate...all the other self-help, modalities of Vedic

science, to

> the great diagnosic, tool of Jyotish....

>

> then, Jyotish, all of a sudden makes more sense,....and

immediately...

> starts becoming a techology for Enlightenment...!

>

> instead of just a symbolism, or language,...about our fates,....

>

> Jai Guru

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

> founder

> Nature's Astrology

> 641 472-0000.

> http://.com/

>

>

>

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

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>

>

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Service.

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>

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Nalini ji,

One of the most difficult situation to ponder any time is "Why"and find an

answer and solution.Looks that situations to deal in LIFE are very "difficult"

as the choice apparently remains only between two extreems:(for me) These are

Heaven and Hell.

Of these,no doubt every body is inclined to see Heaven and only Heaven as the

terms itself sounds lighter and as comfortable and happy when we just keep

saying it repeatedly.Infact is it so?

Like wise Hell sounds harsh,uncomfortable and all kinds of untold

miseries.This is how even they were depicted else where in our scriptures .The

inbuilt insecurity that come up with LIFE is always dealt by "ordering"the

planets.Again this why also is not easy to deal.The insecurity that remains with

us gets used to us and the experiences eventhough not palatable,miserable and

very harsh. A realisation dawns,that life around is certainly a hell.

Probably experiences if at all ordered and when they fall in place we are made

to go through these roller coasters.There is some times awe and other times a

great feeling as if every time when we are thrown from great heights we emerge

on to the top without a scratch and utter and mutter God is Kind to me!.

Then !Are the choices are there to choose?.Is it not that the end of life

situations sometimes logically CONSOLE us.Is it not real wonder?Is it not human

Values that were imbibed from the time of birth.Happiest of the happiest is

there any one so far?If so can we really find?

Difficulties:man made or God made when experienced never looks as if "so

difficult "to bear.The art of living come up as such .we find (in hell ) too a

heaven.and (heaven) too hell.Only thing pranayama(exercise concerned with

breathing) that comes with birth continues through out.Even if do not want,we

can not venture to stop?

Then why we think something as malefic and something as benific.it is only

'coz ,jyotish initiated to desscribe planets as some or benific and other are

malefic.why planets have been catogorised?Are they really so to link with two

extreemeties of heaven and hell.No when planets perform their roles and act

through all of us,choice gets limited to one and only one:that one we are not

able to distinguish as heaven and hell.is it that both are different.Then what

really would be Heaven?Do we really be happy if put in to Heaven,a place of

comfort and joy(?).

God only knows.ultimately we are happy in the end with waht we are?we deserve

to get what we are entitled?Is it not so?

Jyostish though explains these situations we are not convinced as the reason

given as of "Sanchita" and Prarabdha Karmas looks very confused.Better we "Stop

thinking and Start Living"We are truely capable to suit ourselves to the best

and Worst.This makes us to conclude Almighty ,the Supreme,finally God is too

good and kind us to keep us "alive".and the pranayama that is natural to life be

continued.Beyond this what ultimate and spontaneous inference that come up"GOD

IS KIND"

krishnan

with regards

 

auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote:

Krishnan ji,

Your observations mirror mine.I never imagined I would get this

peace or solace from astrology. Sitting idle and my natural interest

in learning astrology made me log on to the groups and what a

fortune behind the doors. I chanced upon Mark's article on the

malefics and wondered, did I always not blame others,( my mars).

That started the ball rolling, the introspection. First the

relationships, then my health then my state of mind, with all the

valuable astrological inputs from the learned members of the forum ,

guidance and of course the Grace of Guru, I am today a very happy

person. In fact with all the conventional parameters to happiness -

health, wealth, family etc at their nadir, I feel the happiest.

There is an inner peace. I strongly believe that the experiences of

this lifetime are not given to us but requested by us, by the soul

in the process of evolving.

If we cry " why me? for all the trials, pain, suffering, grief/ It

is you who wanted them in the first place?

Every experience enriches the soul and when, you sum up, everything

fits into the slot,why 2+2=5 and not 4. Then you find the malefics

in you chart drop their so called mantle. They are no more malefics,

How can you blame them, they are the administrators of justice,they

give you what you asked for.You can be grateful to Saturn for the

unique experiences only he can give,to ketu for all the

detachment... all of them. I do not know if Guru is a functional

malefic in my chart in Sagittarius along with Almighty Saturn, for a

Gemini rising, but my manasika Guru, Sri Raghavendra, has always

guided me along the right path. I always feel blessed with so much

fortune showered on me, Now I cry Why me? What did I do to deserve

all this, this good will, this love and this new peace? I dont know

but I shall always cherish it.

But living here and now with the terra firma beneath , it has been a

very difficult balancing act, again thanks to Saturn, I am marching

on.

Regards

Nalini

"Lord, give me perfect sincerity, that sincerity which will lead me

straight to Thee".

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Mark,

> You are right.Through Astrology one can self actualise and get

lot of satisfaction as it tends to encourage for giving service and

extend help.Even Mars the unpredicatable planet gave in my life

immense satisfaction as it made gave me a real human touch.

> less to speak about saturn as it always hinted me to be sober

and over anxious.Mars gave me relentless hope and ambition to do my

efforts and karma.As far as other are concerned, moon always made me

spontaneous,jupiter a mix of good and bad.Good to respect the wholy

scripts and bad to make me stand in bad company.venus,the creative

palnet always made me mad about the fair sex and always to do things

differently.mercury made me nervous but logical and very

competitive.sun whom I pray most tires me alot and makes me

exhausted.there is always hope for tomorrow.I do not real understand

why we should blame any body including Ketu as in for me every thing

is near and yet far off.Thanx to my 12th house(wnat to know is in

scorpio?)

> No planet is really bad and every planet has to be ordered to do

their own contribution to make human being a complete person.Life is

an experience to be cherished.

> krishnan

>

> m.kincaid wrote:

> Jyotish has this so delicous connotation, as to exactly which

planet to blame!

>

> For problems of lack of self-confidence, we get to blame...our

Suns!

>

> Or, if we're experiencing any ennumerable qualities of emotional

problems, we

> might look to our Moons...

>

> Or, maybe still, almighty saturn has raised its ugly head,...and

it's casting

> all kinds of bizarre,... effects our way!

>

> For, accidents, fights, disharmony,...anger, resentment,

betrayel,...etc... of

> course, we look to Mars.....

>

> For, lack of love, sadness in love,... on and on...we look to

Venus...

>

> For, lack of clarity of mind, can't make the right ....

decisions... we look

> to Mercury,...

> and finally

>

> For all sorts of perversions, compulsions, obsessions, even

addictions, we get

> to blame almighty Rahu!

>

> Then, on day, I picked up Parashara, and came across this

passage....

>

> "In the beginning the Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas, to

bestow upon

> others, the natural consequences of their actions...."

>

> And, all of a sudden I got it...

>

> It's not, them, that's to blame...

> it's me....!

>

> ugh...how depressing,...it's my fault,...my karmas coming back,....

> my those things I've sowed,...coming back....

>

> ugh.......

>

> Then, later, it began to creep in....

> if it's really only me, that's to blame...

> only me,..that's really the cause of all ....'this'....

>

> then, maybe, just maybe.... no one else really stands in my way...

>

> and maybe, just maybe I can change my stars.....

> because I was the one,...that created them, in the first place!

>

> And, thus, began my true Jyotish....

> the jyotish of self-acceptance...

> and the Jyotish of self-development,...through the process of self-

transform-

> ation!

>

> When you integrate...all the other self-help, modalities of Vedic

science, to

> the great diagnosic, tool of Jyotish....

>

> then, Jyotish, all of a sudden makes more sense,....and

immediately...

> starts becoming a techology for Enlightenment...!

>

> instead of just a symbolism, or language,...about our fates,....

>

> Jai Guru

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

> founder

> Nature's Astrology

> 641 472-0000.

> http://.com/

>

>

>

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Mail

> Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

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