PARANOIA against sharing in jyotish

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Random thoughts, based on what I have observed over several years in

talking with jyotishis, reading what they wrote and what they held

back, some obviously, others more subtly! Let no one feel 'lanced'

by this post or take it personally -- please!

 

It is unmistakable that there has been a major cultural shift in

Jyotish in general. There is a lot lot more sharing overall now than

was a few years ago, even. From time to time, individuals are

reminded about the warnings placed in 'classics' about who should

and who should not receive the secrets of astrology -- jyotish

specifically. There are cautionary notes placed by teachers, modern

teachers and writers about being very careful with jyotish secrets

and techniques and the body of knowledge. Some have complained that

the overt literature (including published books, booklets, articles

and internet media) though seemingly more forthcoming and revealing

still sounds a bit 'held back'. There is almost a fear as if

revealing anything more would lead to misuse that would hurt the

world, humanity somehow. It brings to mind what someone said about

the recipes for nuclear weapons being available on the internet but

THANK GOD there aren't nuclear weapons going off all over the place.

I say this in all seriousness, mistake me not! I understand that

there are certain things which must be kept secret but in my

reckoning those are not part of jyotish, but part of the so called

black magic of tantra, mantra that has become associated with

jyotish.

 

To me 'jyotish' represents the rules and logic that is more cerebral

than intuitive or spiritual in its bright or dark forms. The area of

remedies is obviously more in that domain than the

cerebral/intellectual.

 

I think some people have become a bit confused over time. They have

lumped the jyotish with tantrik aspects and have beoome equally

protective about even sharing the rules. Hence we end up with

paramparas and closed family vaults of jyotish secrets.

 

Returning to my knife analogy -- yes it is potentially possible to

hurt through misuse of any vidya just as it is possible to help

someone through the same vidya, but is such PARANOIA really

justified in revealing and openly discussing jyotish rules and

similar information.

 

I think some of the 'secrecy' and exclusivity is simply human drama

and people trying to protect their territories and turfs. This is

very human, not at all new and even seen to affect otherwise nice

sincere and almost pious teachers and experts.

 

It can, sadly -- and I know some instances, be also because sincere,

plain-hearted individuals share out of the goodness of their hearts

and are then assaulted by others, and their work of a lifetime

attacked and denigerated, out of spite really. And, this happens in

all areas of life I suppose.

 

My qudos to these rare unsung heros, who still continue to share and

through such attacks visibly grow stronger and even admired over

time. It is true, what does not kill you can only make you stronger!

 

But why such a draconian fate for such researchers, in some sense

far ahead of their times? Anyway, hats off to such pioneers!

 

RR

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while we join to bow our heads to such unsung heroes we do not want evently such

jyotishis who out of personal gains murderes fair instincts and inflicted on

such holy sciences.It is not far from true that such cases even today are being

attempted.we also do not hesitate to smile and keep quite

"such a draconian fate for such researchers, in some sense far ahead of their

times?"I agree is in their fate and this can be for aby body too.How we should

deal is always a point of interest.If we know and tolerate I feel we are owning

paranoia and sharing our saddistic mind with like minds.

May be a collective wisdom should be able to help even sucg\h unsung heroes

and rehabilitate them back into the stream.This can only be a very token way of

collective approach and expressing our gratitude.Most important there is no need

to loose heart and become vulnerable to situations

krishnan

 

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

Random thoughts, based on what I have observed over several years in

talking with jyotishis, reading what they wrote and what they held

back, some obviously, others more subtly! Let no one feel 'lanced'

by this post or take it personally -- please!

 

It is unmistakable that there has been a major cultural shift in

Jyotish in general. There is a lot lot more sharing overall now than

was a few years ago, even. From time to time, individuals are

reminded about the warnings placed in 'classics' about who should

and who should not receive the secrets of astrology -- jyotish

specifically. There are cautionary notes placed by teachers, modern

teachers and writers about being very careful with jyotish secrets

and techniques and the body of knowledge. Some have complained that

the overt literature (including published books, booklets, articles

and internet media) though seemingly more forthcoming and revealing

still sounds a bit 'held back'. There is almost a fear as if

revealing anything more would lead to misuse that would hurt the

world, humanity somehow. It brings to mind what someone said about

the recipes for nuclear weapons being available on the internet but

THANK GOD there aren't nuclear weapons going off all over the place.

I say this in all seriousness, mistake me not! I understand that

there are certain things which must be kept secret but in my

reckoning those are not part of jyotish, but part of the so called

black magic of tantra, mantra that has become associated with

jyotish.

 

To me 'jyotish' represents the rules and logic that is more cerebral

than intuitive or spiritual in its bright or dark forms. The area of

remedies is obviously more in that domain than the

cerebral/intellectual.

 

I think some people have become a bit confused over time. They have

lumped the jyotish with tantrik aspects and have beoome equally

protective about even sharing the rules. Hence we end up with

paramparas and closed family vaults of jyotish secrets.

 

Returning to my knife analogy -- yes it is potentially possible to

hurt through misuse of any vidya just as it is possible to help

someone through the same vidya, but is such PARANOIA really

justified in revealing and openly discussing jyotish rules and

similar information.

 

I think some of the 'secrecy' and exclusivity is simply human drama

and people trying to protect their territories and turfs. This is

very human, not at all new and even seen to affect otherwise nice

sincere and almost pious teachers and experts.

 

It can, sadly -- and I know some instances, be also because sincere,

plain-hearted individuals share out of the goodness of their hearts

and are then assaulted by others, and their work of a lifetime

attacked and denigerated, out of spite really. And, this happens in

all areas of life I suppose.

 

My qudos to these rare unsung heros, who still continue to share and

through such attacks visibly grow stronger and even admired over

time. It is true, what does not kill you can only make you stronger!

 

But why such a draconian fate for such researchers, in some sense

far ahead of their times? Anyway, hats off to such pioneers!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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