Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Friends, Here we go again. If it is intrigue,complexities ,lies, we immidiately blame Rahu,Saturn. Why not explore Guru, Budha and Role of Moon ? I have seen two faced liers having Guru in 2nd. I have seen extremely upright people having Sani in Lagna and I have seen people with Rahu in Lagna or 4th having very lovable nature. It is time we stopped taking age old karkatva of each planet as unshakable truth and explore roles of Mercury, Moon and Guru to find person's mental , intellectual and Information (Guru) make up which will force him to take recourse to lies, intrigue etc. We should also explore 5th,4th,2nd house lords and their conditions before blaming poor Rahu, Sani etc. Tatvam-Asi --- rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out > earlier many a roles > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us > as we traverse > through life and when it resurfaces! > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about > consequences and is so > close to nature. > That very nature which permits us to decipher its > innumerable > complexities through rahu and saturn.... > > > > , > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > Infants do not talk or write. > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point > in the > beginning > > of time! > > How can we presume or claim to be infants? > > > > , > "auromirra19" > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > RRji, > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, > got them from > the > > > shelves of the supermarket. > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having > fun.Never been so > > light > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand > in > > earnest.another > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the > child surfaces. > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be > explained- astro > > > perspective of the effects of the various > planetary dashas in > diff > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later > parts of life. > > Being > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a > few individuals > > > with the same dashas? > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too > closely. I dont > > know > > > Nalini > > > , > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully > reading what I > > > wrote - > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive > ;-) > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in > them ... > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the > cookie jars > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in > there > > > > sometimes scorpions instead! > > > > > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having > diabetes so even > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , > "auromirra19" > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being > books- saturn- > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- > addictions, afflictions, > > > secrets > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are > you listening, > > mangal > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all > these planets have > > > > something > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their > way. It all > depends > > > on > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad > the planets > confer. > > > > Well > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a > disiplinarian, austere > as > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience > the lessons, not > all > > > the > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. > One might worry > > sick > > > > of > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped > of everything > he > > > > loves > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for > being taught the > true > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or > even the same > > native > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha > differently a > couple > > of > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is > it the other > > > > combinations > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it > still that each > chart- > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even > the general > > > > experiences > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have > heard people say" he > > is > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing > extremely well. > > > Could > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? > nah!There are rules and > > > there > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart > is a challenge. > > > > > Regards > > > > > nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > ~~Tarun~~ > > <tarun_vst@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a > shadow of Earth and > in > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means > no light or > energy > > > or > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are > helpless and > when > > > the > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and > the same thing > is > > > > Rahu > > > > > as it creates shadow or no > > > > > > light. > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet > but its surface is > > > > covered > > > > > with lots of gases therefore > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the > light by other > > > planets. > > > > As > > > > > by example when we throw light > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back > whereas if we > > throw > > > > > light over green or yellow colour > > > > > > it shines good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as > the fire causes > > heat > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Sir, I did not mean rahu and shani alone, infact all the planets can and do contribute, I agree regards rishi , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > > Friends, > > Here we go again. If it is intrigue,complexities > ,lies, we immidiately blame Rahu,Saturn. > > Why not explore Guru, Budha and Role of Moon ? > I have seen two faced liers having Guru in 2nd. > I have seen extremely upright people having Sani in > Lagna and I have seen people with Rahu in Lagna or 4th > having very lovable nature. > It is time we stopped taking age old karkatva of each > planet as unshakable truth and explore roles of > Mercury, Moon and Guru to find person's mental , > intellectual and Information (Guru) make up which will > force him to take recourse to lies, intrigue etc. > We should also explore 5th,4th,2nd house lords and > their conditions before blaming poor Rahu, Sani etc. > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > --- rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out > > earlier many a roles > > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us > > as we traverse > > through life and when it resurfaces! > > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about > > consequences and is so > > close to nature. > > That very nature which permits us to decipher its > > innumerable > > complexities through rahu and saturn.... > > > > > > > > , > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Infants do not talk or write. > > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point > > in the > > beginning > > > of time! > > > How can we presume or claim to be infants? > > > > > > , > > "auromirra19" > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > RRji, > > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, > > got them from > > the > > > > shelves of the supermarket. > > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having > > fun.Never been so > > > light > > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand > > in > > > earnest.another > > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the > > child surfaces. > > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be > > explained- astro > > > > perspective of the effects of the various > > planetary dashas in > > diff > > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later > > parts of life. > > > Being > > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a > > few individuals > > > > with the same dashas? > > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too > > closely. I dont > > > know > > > > Nalini > > > > , > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully > > reading what I > > > > wrote - > > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive > > ;-) > > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in > > them ... > > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the > > cookie jars > > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in > > there > > > > > sometimes scorpions instead! > > > > > > > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having > > diabetes so even > > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > "auromirra19" > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being > > books- saturn- > > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- > > addictions, afflictions, > > > > secrets > > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are > > you listening, > > > mangal > > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all > > these planets have > > > > > something > > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their > > way. It all > > depends > > > > on > > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad > > the planets > > confer. > > > > > Well > > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a > > disiplinarian, austere > > as > > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience > > the lessons, not > > all > > > > the > > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. > > One might worry > > > sick > > > > > of > > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped > > of everything > > he > > > > > loves > > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for > > being taught the > > true > > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or > > even the same > > > native > > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha > > differently a > > couple > > > of > > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is > > it the other > > > > > combinations > > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it > > still that each > > chart- > > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even > > the general > > > > > experiences > > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have > > heard people say" he > > > is > > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing > > extremely well. > > > > Could > > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? > > nah!There are rules and > > > > there > > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart > > is a challenge. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > ~~Tarun~~ > > > <tarun_vst@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a > > shadow of Earth and > > in > > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place > > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means > > no light or > > energy > > > > or > > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you > > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are > > helpless and > > when > > > > the > > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The > > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and > > the same thing > > is > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > as it creates shadow or no > > > > > > > light. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet > > but its surface is > > > > > covered > > > > > > with lots of gases therefore > > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the > > light by other > > > > planets. > > > > > As > > > > > > by example when we throw light > > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back > > whereas if we > > > throw > > > > > > light over green or yellow colour > > > > > > > it shines good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as > > the fire causes > > > heat > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I thought that is what I was saying too and so also the recent posters that good things can be assessed from saturn and rahu. , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > > Friends, > > Here we go again. If it is intrigue,complexities > ,lies, we immidiately blame Rahu,Saturn. > > Why not explore Guru, Budha and Role of Moon ? > I have seen two faced liers having Guru in 2nd. > I have seen extremely upright people having Sani in > Lagna and I have seen people with Rahu in Lagna or 4th > having very lovable nature. > It is time we stopped taking age old karkatva of each > planet as unshakable truth and explore roles of > Mercury, Moon and Guru to find person's mental , > intellectual and Information (Guru) make up which will > force him to take recourse to lies, intrigue etc. > We should also explore 5th,4th,2nd house lords and > their conditions before blaming poor Rahu, Sani etc. > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > --- rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out > > earlier many a roles > > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us > > as we traverse > > through life and when it resurfaces! > > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about > > consequences and is so > > close to nature. > > That very nature which permits us to decipher its > > innumerable > > complexities through rahu and saturn.... > > > > > > > > , > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Infants do not talk or write. > > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point > > in the > > beginning > > > of time! > > > How can we presume or claim to be infants? > > > > > > , > > "auromirra19" > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > RRji, > > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, > > got them from > > the > > > > shelves of the supermarket. > > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having > > fun.Never been so > > > light > > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand > > in > > > earnest.another > > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the > > child surfaces. > > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be > > explained- astro > > > > perspective of the effects of the various > > planetary dashas in > > diff > > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later > > parts of life. > > > Being > > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a > > few individuals > > > > with the same dashas? > > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too > > closely. I dont > > > know > > > > Nalini > > > > , > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully > > reading what I > > > > wrote - > > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive > > ;-) > > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in > > them ... > > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the > > cookie jars > > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in > > there > > > > > sometimes scorpions instead! > > > > > > > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having > > diabetes so even > > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > "auromirra19" > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being > > books- saturn- > > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- > > addictions, afflictions, > > > > secrets > > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are > > you listening, > > > mangal > > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all > > these planets have > > > > > something > > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their > > way. It all > > depends > > > > on > > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad > > the planets > > confer. > > > > > Well > > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a > > disiplinarian, austere > > as > > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience > > the lessons, not > > all > > > > the > > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. > > One might worry > > > sick > > > > > of > > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped > > of everything > > he > > > > > loves > > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for > > being taught the > > true > > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or > > even the same > > > native > > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha > > differently a > > couple > > > of > > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is > > it the other > > > > > combinations > > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it > > still that each > > chart- > > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even > > the general > > > > > experiences > > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have > > heard people say" he > > > is > > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing > > extremely well. > > > > Could > > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? > > nah!There are rules and > > > > there > > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart > > is a challenge. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > ~~Tarun~~ > > > <tarun_vst@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a > > shadow of Earth and > > in > > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place > > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means > > no light or > > energy > > > > or > > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you > > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are > > helpless and > > when > > > > the > > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The > > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and > > the same thing > > is > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > as it creates shadow or no > > > > > > > light. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet > > but its surface is > > > > > covered > > > > > > with lots of gases therefore > > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the > > light by other > > > > planets. > > > > > As > > > > > > by example when we throw light > > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back > > whereas if we > > > throw > > > > > > light over green or yellow colour > > > > > > > it shines good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as > > the fire causes > > > heat > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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