RE:- Why Is It So ?...Fear of Rahu, Sani and Mangal

February 22, 2006

Dear all,

In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and in transit or in

horoscope the place

occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or energy or strength is in

that bhava. As you

might have seen during night hours all are helpless and when the sun rises all

feel energetic. The

same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing is Rahu as it creates

shadow or no

light.

Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is covered with lots of

gases therefore

doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other planets. As by example

when we throw light

over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we throw light over green

or yellow colour

it shines good.

Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes heat and we cant stand

near to it. the

same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

Thanks

Tarun.

> >

> > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> > Friends,

> >

> > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these years that

> people ,

> > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above planets.

> > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed and illread

> Adhe

> > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a fast buck are

> to

> > blame.

> > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of having a

> fresher

> > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine portfolios of

> many

> > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy the bhava it

> > occupies.

> > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated with

> > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some of the best

> > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> >

> > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > Shall we discuss these here?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

> THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

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> > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> >

>

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February 22, 2006

Friends,

Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions, secrets

mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening, mangal

rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have something

good in them, good for the native in their way. It all depends on

the native's perception of the good or bad the planets confer. Well

if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian, austere as

perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not all the

natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might worry sick of

having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything he loves

and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the true

values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same native

might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a couple of

years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other combinations

of planets operating in unision or is it still that each chart-

individual is unique. But then how can even the general experiences

match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say" he is

undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely well. Could

sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules and there

are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

Regards

nalini

, ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst

wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and in

transit or in horoscope the place

> occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or energy or

strength is in that bhava. As you

> might have seen during night hours all are helpless and when the

sun rises all feel energetic. The

> same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing is Rahu

as it creates shadow or no

> light.

>

> Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is covered

with lots of gases therefore

> doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other planets. As

by example when we throw light

> over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we throw

light over green or yellow colour

> it shines good.

>

> Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes heat and

we cant stand near to it. the

> same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

>

> I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

>

> Thanks

> Tarun.

>

> > >

> > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > Friends,

> > >

> > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these years that

> > people ,

> > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above planets.

> > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed and

illread

> > Adhe

> > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a fast buck

are

> > to

> > > blame.

> > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of having a

> > fresher

> > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine portfolios

of

> > many

> > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy the

bhava it

> > > occupies.

> > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated with

> > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some of the

best

> > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > >

> > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH

> > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > >

> > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

> > >

> > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > >

> > > Terms

of

> > Service.

> > >

> > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > >

> >

>

> ________

> India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

http://.shaadi.com

>

February 22, 2006

since you too have not been listening or fully reading what I wrote -

- like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

sometimes scorpions instead!

Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so even

reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

RR

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> Friends,

> Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

> immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions, secrets

> mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening, mangal

> rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have

something

> good in them, good for the native in their way. It all depends on

> the native's perception of the good or bad the planets confer.

Well

> if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian, austere as

> perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not all the

> natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might worry sick

of

> having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything he

loves

> and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the true

> values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same native

> might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a couple of

> years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

combinations

> of planets operating in unision or is it still that each chart-

> individual is unique. But then how can even the general

experiences

> match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say" he is

> undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely well. Could

> sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules and there

> are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

> Regards

> nalini

>

> , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and in

> transit or in horoscope the place

> > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or energy or

> strength is in that bhava. As you

> > might have seen during night hours all are helpless and when the

> sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing is

Rahu

> as it creates shadow or no

> > light.

> >

> > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is

covered

> with lots of gases therefore

> > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other planets.

As

> by example when we throw light

> > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we throw

> light over green or yellow colour

> > it shines good.

> >

> > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes heat

and

> we cant stand near to it. the

> > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> >

> > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Tarun.

> >

> > > >

> > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these years

that

> > > people ,

> > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above planets.

> > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed and

> illread

> > > Adhe

> > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a fast

buck

> are

> > > to

> > > > blame.

> > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of having

a

> > > fresher

> > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

portfolios

> of

> > > many

> > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy the

> bhava it

> > > > occupies.

> > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated with

> > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some of the

> best

> > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > >

> > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

> RELISH

> > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > >

> > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology

software

> > > >

> > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > >

> > > > Terms

> of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > ________

> > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

> http://.shaadi.com

> >

>

February 22, 2006

RRji,

I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them from the

shelves of the supermarket.

I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been so light

hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in earnest.another

lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child surfaces.

Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained- astro

perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas in diff

stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of life. Being

so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few individuals

with the same dashas?

Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I dont know

Nalini

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> since you too have not been listening or fully reading what I

wrote -

> - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> sometimes scorpions instead!

>

> Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so even

> reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

>

> RR

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > Friends,

> > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

> > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions,

secrets

> > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening, mangal

> > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have

> something

> > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all depends

on

> > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets confer.

> Well

> > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian, austere as

> > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not all

the

> > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might worry sick

> of

> > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything he

> loves

> > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the true

> > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same native

> > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a couple of

> > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

> combinations

> > of planets operating in unision or is it still that each chart-

> > individual is unique. But then how can even the general

> experiences

> > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say" he is

> > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely well.

Could

> > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules and

there

> > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

> > Regards

> > nalini

> >

> > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and in

> > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or energy

or

> > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless and when

the

> > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing is

> Rahu

> > as it creates shadow or no

> > > light.

> > >

> > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is

> covered

> > with lots of gases therefore

> > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other

planets.

> As

> > by example when we throw light

> > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we throw

> > light over green or yellow colour

> > > it shines good.

> > >

> > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes heat

> and

> > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> > >

> > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Tarun.

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these years

> that

> > > > people ,

> > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above

planets.

> > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed and

> > illread

> > > > Adhe

> > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a fast

> buck

> > are

> > > > to

> > > > > blame.

> > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of

having

> a

> > > > fresher

> > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

> portfolios

> > of

> > > > many

> > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy the

> > bhava it

> > > > > occupies.

> > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated

with

> > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some of

the

> > best

> > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > >

> > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > >

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY

AND

> > RELISH

> > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology

> software

> > > > >

> > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > > >

Terms

> > of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ________

> > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

> > http://.shaadi.com

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2006

Infants do not talk or write.

As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the beginning

of time!

How can we presume or claim to be infants?

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> RRji,

> I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them from the

> shelves of the supermarket.

> I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been so

light

> hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

earnest.another

> lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child surfaces.

> Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained- astro

> perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas in diff

> stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of life.

Being

> so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few individuals

> with the same dashas?

> Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I dont

know

> Nalini

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > since you too have not been listening or fully reading what I

> wrote -

> > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > sometimes scorpions instead!

> >

> > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so even

> > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "auromirra19"

> > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Friends,

> > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

> > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions,

> secrets

> > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening,

mangal

> > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have

> > something

> > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all depends

> on

> > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets confer.

> > Well

> > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian, austere as

> > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not all

> the

> > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might worry

sick

> > of

> > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything he

> > loves

> > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the true

> > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same

native

> > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a couple

of

> > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

> > combinations

> > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that each chart-

> > > individual is unique. But then how can even the general

> > experiences

> > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say" he

is

> > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely well.

> Could

> > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules and

> there

> > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

> > > Regards

> > > nalini

> > >

> > > , ~~Tarun~~

<tarun_vst@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and in

> > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or energy

> or

> > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless and when

> the

> > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing is

> > Rahu

> > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > light.

> > > >

> > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is

> > covered

> > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other

> planets.

> > As

> > > by example when we throw light

> > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we

throw

> > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > it shines good.

> > > >

> > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes

heat

> > and

> > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> > > >

> > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Tarun.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these years

> > that

> > > > > people ,

> > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above

> planets.

> > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed

and

> > > illread

> > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a fast

> > buck

> > > are

> > > > > to

> > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of

> having

> > a

> > > > > fresher

> > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

> > portfolios

> > > of

> > > > > many

> > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy

the

> > > bhava it

> > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated

> with

> > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some of

> the

> > > best

> > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY

> AND

> > > RELISH

> > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology

> > software

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > > > >

> Terms

> > > of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

> > > http://.shaadi.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2006

Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out earlier many a roles

lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us as we traverse

through life and when it resurfaces!

It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about consequences and is so

close to nature.

That very nature which permits us to decipher its innumerable

complexities through rahu and saturn....

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> Infants do not talk or write.

> As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the

beginning

> of time!

> How can we presume or claim to be infants?

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > RRji,

> > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them from

the

> > shelves of the supermarket.

> > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been so

> light

> > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

> earnest.another

> > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child surfaces.

> > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained- astro

> > perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas in

diff

> > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of life.

> Being

> > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few individuals

> > with the same dashas?

> > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I dont

> know

> > Nalini

> > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > since you too have not been listening or fully reading what I

> > wrote -

> > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > > sometimes scorpions instead!

> > >

> > > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so even

> > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "auromirra19"

> > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

> > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions,

> > secrets

> > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening,

> mangal

> > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have

> > > something

> > > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all

depends

> > on

> > > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets

confer.

> > > Well

> > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian, austere

as

> > > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not

all

> > the

> > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might worry

> sick

> > > of

> > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything

he

> > > loves

> > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the

true

> > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same

> native

> > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a

couple

> of

> > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

> > > combinations

> > > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that each

chart-

> > > > individual is unique. But then how can even the general

> > > experiences

> > > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say" he

> is

> > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely well.

> > Could

> > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules and

> > there

> > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

> > > > Regards

> > > > nalini

> > > >

> > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> <tarun_vst@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth and

in

> > > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or

energy

> > or

> > > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless and

when

> > the

> > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same thing

is

> > > Rahu

> > > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > > light.

> > > > >

> > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface is

> > > covered

> > > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other

> > planets.

> > > As

> > > > by example when we throw light

> > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we

> throw

> > > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > > it shines good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire causes

> heat

> > > and

> > > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Tarun.

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these

years

> > > that

> > > > > > people ,

> > > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above

> > planets.

> > > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill informed

> and

> > > > illread

> > > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a

fast

> > > buck

> > > > are

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question of

> > having

> > > a

> > > > > > fresher

> > > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

> > > portfolios

> > > > of

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to destroy

> the

> > > > bhava it

> > > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are treated

> > with

> > > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some

of

> > the

> > > > best

> > > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

DIVINITY

> > AND

> > > > RELISH

> > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > >

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> > > software

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > > > > >

> > Terms

> > > > of

> > > > > > Service.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > > > > > >

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> >

>

February 22, 2006

why rahu and saturn?

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out earlier many a

roles

> lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us as we

traverse

> through life and when it resurfaces!

> It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about consequences and is so

> close to nature.

> That very nature which permits us to decipher its innumerable

> complexities through rahu and saturn....

>

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Infants do not talk or write.

> > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the

> beginning

> > of time!

> > How can we presume or claim to be infants?

> >

> > , "auromirra19"

> > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > >

> > > RRji,

> > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them from

> the

> > > shelves of the supermarket.

> > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been so

> > light

> > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

> > earnest.another

> > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child surfaces.

> > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained- astro

> > > perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas in

> diff

> > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of life.

> > Being

> > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few

individuals

> > > with the same dashas?

> > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I

dont

> > know

> > > Nalini

> > > , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > since you too have not been listening or fully reading what

I

> > > wrote -

> > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > > > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > > > sometimes scorpions instead!

> > > >

> > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so

even

> > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books- saturn-

> > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions, afflictions,

> > > secrets

> > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening,

> > mangal

> > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets have

> > > > something

> > > > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all

> depends

> > > on

> > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets

> confer.

> > > > Well

> > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian,

austere

> as

> > > > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons, not

> all

> > > the

> > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might

worry

> > sick

> > > > of

> > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of everything

> he

> > > > loves

> > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught the

> true

> > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the same

> > native

> > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a

> couple

> > of

> > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

> > > > combinations

> > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that each

> chart-

> > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even the general

> > > > experiences

> > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people say"

he

> > is

> > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely

well.

> > > Could

> > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules

and

> > > there

> > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a challenge.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > nalini

> > > > >

> > > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> > <tarun_vst@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth

and

> in

> > > > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or

> energy

> > > or

> > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless and

> when

> > > the

> > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same

thing

> is

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > > > light.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its surface

is

> > > > covered

> > > > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other

> > > planets.

> > > > As

> > > > > by example when we throw light

> > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if we

> > throw

> > > > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > > > it shines good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire

causes

> > heat

> > > > and

> > > > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my

answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Tarun.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these

> years

> > > > that

> > > > > > > people ,

> > > > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of above

> > > planets.

> > > > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill

informed

> > and

> > > > > illread

> > > > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a

> fast

> > > > buck

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question

of

> > > having

> > > > a

> > > > > > > fresher

> > > > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

> > > > portfolios

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to

destroy

> > the

> > > > > bhava it

> > > > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are

treated

> > > with

> > > > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives some

> of

> > > the

> > > > > best

> > > > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> DIVINITY

> > > AND

> > > > > RELISH

> > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

Astrology

> > > > software

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > Terms

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > Service.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

________

> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

> > > > > http://.shaadi.com

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2006

Not only rahu and saturn alone, but all the planets and the jyotish

parameters. Wrote hastily!

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> why rahu and saturn?

>

> , "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out earlier many a

> roles

> > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us as we

> traverse

> > through life and when it resurfaces!

> > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about consequences and is so

> > close to nature.

> > That very nature which permits us to decipher its innumerable

> > complexities through rahu and saturn....

> >

> > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Infants do not talk or write.

> > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the

> > beginning

> > > of time!

> > > How can we presume or claim to be infants?

> > >

> > > , "auromirra19"

> > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RRji,

> > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them

from

> > the

> > > > shelves of the supermarket.

> > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been

so

> > > light

> > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

> > > earnest.another

> > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child surfaces.

> > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained- astro

> > > > perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas

in

> > diff

> > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of

life.

> > > Being

> > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few

> individuals

> > > > with the same dashas?

> > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I

> dont

> > > know

> > > > Nalini

> > > > , "rohiniranjan"

> <rrgb@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully reading

what

> I

> > > > wrote -

> > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > > > > sometimes scorpions instead!

> > > > >

> > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes so

> even

> > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books-

saturn-

>

> > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions,

afflictions,

> > > > secrets

> > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you listening,

> > > mangal

> > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets

have

> > > > > something

> > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all

> > depends

> > > > on

> > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets

> > confer.

> > > > > Well

> > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian,

> austere

> > as

> > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons,

not

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might

> worry

> > > sick

> > > > > of

> > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of

everything

> > he

> > > > > loves

> > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught

the

> > true

> > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the

same

> > > native

> > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a

> > couple

> > > of

> > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the other

> > > > > combinations

> > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that each

> > chart-

> > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even the general

> > > > > experiences

> > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people

say"

> he

> > > is

> > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely

> well.

> > > > Could

> > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are rules

> and

> > > > there

> > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a

challenge.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > nalini

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> > > <tarun_vst@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of Earth

> and

> > in

> > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light or

> > energy

> > > > or

> > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless

and

> > when

> > > > the

> > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same

> thing

> > is

> > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > > > > light.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its

surface

> is

> > > > > covered

> > > > > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by other

> > > > planets.

> > > > > As

> > > > > > by example when we throw light

> > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas if

we

> > > throw

> > > > > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > > > > it shines good.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire

> causes

> > > heat

> > > > > and

> > > > > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or transit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my

> answer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Tarun.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over these

> > years

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > people ,

> > > > > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of

above

> > > > planets.

> > > > > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill

> informed

> > > and

> > > > > > illread

> > > > > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make a

> > fast

> > > > > buck

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the question

> of

> > > > having

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > fresher

> > > > > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given divine

> > > > > portfolios

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to

> destroy

> > > the

> > > > > > bhava it

> > > > > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are

> treated

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives

some

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > best

> > > > > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > DIVINITY

> > > > AND

> > > > > > RELISH

> > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> Astrology

> > > > > software

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an email

to:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the

>

> > > > Terms

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Service.

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> > > > > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

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removed]

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February 22, 2006

but some/many/most/All infants cry! We adults just remember the

gurgling happy ones or at least those happy moments selectively :-)

RR

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Not only rahu and saturn alone, but all the planets and the

jyotish

> parameters. Wrote hastily!

>

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > why rahu and saturn?

> >

> > , "rishi_2000in"

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out earlier many a

> > roles

> > > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us as we

> > traverse

> > > through life and when it resurfaces!

> > > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about consequences and is

so

> > > close to nature.

> > > That very nature which permits us to decipher its innumerable

> > > complexities through rahu and saturn....

> > >

> > > , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Infants do not talk or write.

> > > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the

> > > beginning

> > > > of time!

> > > > How can we presume or claim to be infants?

> > > >

> > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > RRji,

> > > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them

> from

> > > the

> > > > > shelves of the supermarket.

> > > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been

> so

> > > > light

> > > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

> > > > earnest.another

> > > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child

surfaces.

> > > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained-

astro

> > > > > perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas

> in

> > > diff

> > > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of

> life.

> > > > Being

> > > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few

> > individuals

> > > > > with the same dashas?

> > > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I

> > dont

> > > > know

> > > > > Nalini

> > > > > , "rohiniranjan"

> > <rrgb@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully reading

> what

> > I

> > > > > wrote -

> > > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > > > > > sometimes scorpions instead!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes

so

> > even

> > > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books-

> saturn-

> >

> > > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions,

> afflictions,

> > > > > secrets

> > > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you

listening,

> > > > mangal

> > > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets

> have

> > > > > > something

> > > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all

> > > depends

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets

> > > confer.

> > > > > > Well

> > > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian,

> > austere

> > > as

> > > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons,

> not

> > > all

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might

> > worry

> > > > sick

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of

> everything

> > > he

> > > > > > loves

> > > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught

> the

> > > true

> > > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the

> same

> > > > native

> > > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a

> > > couple

> > > > of

> > > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the

other

> > > > > > combinations

> > > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that

each

> > > chart-

> > > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even the

general

> > > > > > experiences

> > > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people

> say"

> > he

> > > > is

> > > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely

> > well.

> > > > > Could

> > > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are

rules

> > and

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a

> challenge.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > nalini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> > > > <tarun_vst@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of

Earth

> > and

> > > in

> > > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light

or

> > > energy

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless

> and

> > > when

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same

> > thing

> > > is

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > > > > > light.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its

> surface

> > is

> > > > > > covered

> > > > > > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by

other

> > > > > planets.

> > > > > > As

> > > > > > > by example when we throw light

> > > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas

if

> we

> > > > throw

> > > > > > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > > > > > it shines good.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire

> > causes

> > > > heat

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > > > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or

transit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my

> > answer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Tarun.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over

these

> > > years

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > people ,

> > > > > > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of

> above

> > > > > planets.

> > > > > > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill

> > informed

> > > > and

> > > > > > > illread

> > > > > > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make

a

> > > fast

> > > > > > buck

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the

question

> > of

> > > > > having

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > fresher

> > > > > > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given

divine

> > > > > > portfolios

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to

> > destroy

> > > > the

> > > > > > > bhava it

> > > > > > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are

> > treated

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives

> some

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > best

> > > > > > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > DIVINITY

> > > > > AND

> > > > > > > RELISH

> > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > Astrology

> > > > > > software

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the

web.

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> > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an

email

> to:

> > > > > > > > > >

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> >

> > > > > Terms

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > Service.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with

Mail.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > ________

> > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to

> > > > > > > http://.shaadi.com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2006

Exactly!!

Thats what nature tells us that joy and crying are just the two sides of

the same coin, the infant reacts as it feels like being close to nature.

We forget that as we grow up, we dont want to cry, want to escape that

and only have good, better, best times.

Similarly, Rahu , Shani and Mangal...are there to make us realise that

you need all aspects to complete the human experience . Two or more

sides therefore need to exist as we percieve this part of nature...I

think, I have digressed..but then what fun in laughter if one has not

felt the steaming tears.

rishi

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> but some/many/most/All infants cry! We adults just remember the

> gurgling happy ones or at least those happy moments selectively :-)

>

> RR

>

> , "rishi_2000in"

> rishi_2000in@ wrote:

> >

> > Not only rahu and saturn alone, but all the planets and the

> jyotish

> > parameters. Wrote hastily!

> >

> > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > why rahu and saturn?

> > >

> > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Permit me to intervene, Sir, as you pointed out earlier many a

> > > roles

> > > > lie submerged in us..the infant lurks deep within us as we

> > > traverse

> > > > through life and when it resurfaces!

> > > > It gurgles with joy, doesnot bother about consequences and is

> so

> > > > close to nature.

> > > > That very nature which permits us to decipher its innumerable

> > > > complexities through rahu and saturn....

> > > >

> > > > , "rohiniranjan"

> <rrgb@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Infants do not talk or write.

> > > > > As long as we can't arrive back at that very point in the

> > > > beginning

> > > > > of time!

> > > > > How can we presume or claim to be infants?

> > > > >

> > > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RRji,

> > > > > > I am a smart cookie, I eat sugar free cookies, got them

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > shelves of the supermarket.

> > > > > > I am truly enjoying the infancy..... having fun.Never been

> > so

> > > > > light

> > > > > > hearted or carefree. Taken the smack on the hand in

> > > > > earnest.another

> > > > > > lull before a storm? I am afraid, see , the child

> surfaces.

> > > > > > Seriously, I only wondered how it could be explained-

> astro

> > > > > > perspective of the effects of the various planetary dashas

> > in

> > > > diff

> > > > > > stages in life, same dashas repeating in later parts of

> > life.

> > > > > Being

> > > > > > so how can a common parallel be drawn amongst a few

> > > individuals

> > > > > > with the same dashas?

> > > > > > Am I being dense or have I embraced infancy too closely. I

> > > dont

> > > > > know

> > > > > > Nalini

> > > > > > , "rohiniranjan"

> > > <rrgb@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > since you too have not been listening or fully reading

> > what

> > > I

> > > > > > wrote -

> > > > > > > - like others visibly rushed and inattentive ;-)

> > > > > > > Planets do not have anything good or bad in them ...

> > > > > > > It is our intention with which we reach the cookie jars

> > > > > > > sometimes / oftentimes we find cookies, in there

> > > > > > > sometimes scorpions instead!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then again I think you mentioned about having diabetes

> so

> > > even

> > > > > > > reaching out for the cookie jar was a NO NO!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > Part of the hype-dread of the planets being books-

> > saturn-

> > >

> > > > > > > > immediately the sade sathi, Rahu- addictions,

> > afflictions,

> > > > > > secrets

> > > > > > > > mangal- martian energy, battle. RRji, are you

> listening,

> > > > > mangal

> > > > > > > > rising = pests. all type cast. Dont all these planets

> > have

> > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > good in them, good for the native in their way. It all

> > > > depends

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > the native's perception of the good or bad the planets

> > > > confer.

> > > > > > > Well

> > > > > > > > if Saturn is harsh in his lessons, a disiplinarian,

> > > austere

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > perceived, and the native does experience the lessons,

> > not

> > > > all

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > natives undergoing the dasha feel the same. One might

> > > worry

> > > > > sick

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > having been put to such a hardship, stripped of

> > everything

> > > > he

> > > > > > > loves

> > > > > > > > and bemoaning his fate, another glad for being taught

> > the

> > > > true

> > > > > > > > values in life, emerging a better person.Or even the

> > same

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > > might feel the effects of a saturn dasha differently a

> > > > couple

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > years later? How can this be explained? Is it the

> other

> > > > > > > combinations

> > > > > > > > of planets operating in unision or is it still that

> each

> > > > chart-

> > > > > > > > individual is unique. But then how can even the

> general

> > > > > > > experiences

> > > > > > > > match in a group of individuals? I have heard people

> > say"

> > > he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > undergoing Sukra dasa" if a native is doing extremely

> > > well.

> > > > > > Could

> > > > > > > > sukra dasa be such for each native? nah!There are

> rules

> > > and

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > are rules. That is why probably each chart is a

> > challenge.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > nalini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> > > > > <tarun_vst@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In my View Rahu is a Thing which is a shadow of

> Earth

> > > and

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > transit or in horoscope the place

> > > > > > > > > occupied by rahu comes under Shadow means no light

> or

> > > > energy

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > strength is in that bhava. As you

> > > > > > > > > might have seen during night hours all are helpless

> > and

> > > > when

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > sun rises all feel energetic. The

> > > > > > > > > same thing happens beause of darkness. and the same

> > > thing

> > > > is

> > > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > as it creates shadow or no

> > > > > > > > > light.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Abt saturn --Saturn is a shining planet but its

> > surface

> > > is

> > > > > > > covered

> > > > > > > > with lots of gases therefore

> > > > > > > > > doesnt relects energy or it absorbs the light by

> other

> > > > > > planets.

> > > > > > > As

> > > > > > > > by example when we throw light

> > > > > > > > > over a black cloth it doesnt reflects back whereas

> if

> > we

> > > > > throw

> > > > > > > > light over green or yellow colour

> > > > > > > > > it shines good.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Abt mars-- it reflects Red colour. and as the fire

> > > causes

> > > > > heat

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > we cant stand near to it. the

> > > > > > > > > same happens when mars is bad in horoscope or

> transit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I guess other members will also be satisfied by my

> > > answer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Tarun.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have often read ,seen and experienced over

> these

> > > > years

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > people ,

> > > > > > > > > > > both astrologers and the jathaks are afraid of

> > above

> > > > > > planets.

> > > > > > > > > > > More than the gullible public, it is the ill

> > > informed

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > illread

> > > > > > > > > > Adhe

> > > > > > > > > > > adhure so called Jyotishacharyas wanting to make

> a

> > > > fast

> > > > > > > buck

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > blame.

> > > > > > > > > > > Many times in the past, I have raised the

> question

> > > of

> > > > > > having

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > fresher

> > > > > > > > > > > look at Karakatwa of planets.

> > > > > > > > > > > I had taken the case of Jupiter being given

> divine

> > > > > > > portfolios

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > things whereas in actuality, Jupiter tends to

> > > destroy

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > bhava it

> > > > > > > > > > > occupies.

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu-Ketu give best Computer engineers but are

> > > treated

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > Tuchhakaara .And in the same manner, Mars gives

> > some

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > best

> > > > > > > > > > > administrators but is looked at with fear.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Each planet has its plus and minus Gunas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Shall we discuss these here?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > DIVINITY

> > > > > > AND

> > > > > > > > RELISH

> > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > > Astrology

> > > > > > > software

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the

> web.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an

> email

> > to:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > >

> > > > > > Terms

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Service.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with

> > > > > > > > > > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with

> Mail.

> > > > > > > > > > >

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> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 23, 2006

In our super duper intelligence we want o order every thing with no exceptions

saturn at 12+ and Venus at 80+.question is not how the same saturn can give good

at one time and bad other stage.probably we want always to hide the darker side

of our life.may be the kind of insecurity that always threatens and

troubles.when problems confront we remeber rahu as bad,sani as malefic and

mangal is harsh.If these bestow all goodies then we have rest of the planets to

curse them.the way we look at the events matter a lot.we never question what is

it that makes life always happy?which planet can deliver?how we can own such

planet?For human nothing is impossible.As tatvam asi mentioned we are never

cautious to hold racing hearts and avoid flips.we want life without mind at that

moment as good and bad.planets no wonder can never be confined and termed only

as good .otherwise bad.they change their colours in the order of dasas.dasa of

planets are ordered to us.the choice was made by us through our

unmindfu actions and thoughts we get for what we have done and deserve them.why

find maladies in innocent palnets.let's allow them to do their duty

krishnan

auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: