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Hi Shantala

 

u appear to be shiftign the goal post, if ur ideaa was to show

accountablity, upgrade, answerable give any data u want for people ehre to

reply and u know it costs nothing so why hesitate?

then compare withthe experience u have got

 

I amsure u 've gone to the guys u r outpouring hate/contempt u've gone

because they chargeda high fee and so they must be good, great pople not

otherwise.

and may be paid the price.

 

but if u want us to take ur below said intentions give us a data to show

there r different people, good, bad raw, experienced, i have worke in this

field for 25 yrs and people who pay r few, never judged anyone for it, nor

threw away anyone either if they don't pay.we get what we deserve and if it is

deserved none can stop it. we can't push ouvrselves and make it either.

 

if we can make a difference in anyones life it is a achievement in itself, as

instruments in the hands of god other rewards r incidental.

 

Prashant

 

 

shantala_pandit <shantala_pandit wrote: Arre baba, I am not

against astrology, wouldn't be here otherwise,

right? like you said some people are good at their job some are not

be it astrologers or doctors or any other profession.. and nobody

can say without having gone through it, correct? Guess I was unlucky

to consult the wrong astrologer. for now, I can live with my

uncertainities.

Is it wrong to suggest something to make things better? I wonder. I

guess you all are satisfied with the way things are, well, so be it!

I am in the IT field, and we keep trying to make our software

better, come up with new features to serve our customers better.. we

develop test cases to make sure our programs don't crash if there is

a bug. I was trying to apply the same principle here (make it

robust, consistent, accountability for performance) which completely

backfired! if there are no takers, it must be a bad idea!

 

with regards,

Shantala

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> Hi friends,

>

> RRji's mention of veiled humility, mock humility comes to my mind.

> Is it right to generalise a professional breed per se based on

one's

> experience with them. I too have had a very bitter experience

with

> an astrologer, an experience which at a point in time that

> mattered, changed the course of my life,. but it was that person

> responsible and not astrology, well if we are cross roads ask for

> advice there are so many well meaning people around trying to

help ,

> may be all of them may not have the right advice unless of course

> this particular gentleman who relished doing it.

> Then there was this astrologer in chennai, who charged not a rupee

> from people genuinely needy, the poor and had a basic charge for

the

> affluent. Well he paid his taxes , filed his returns citing his

> profession as a astrologer. He sought my advice regarding his

> eligibility for a housing loan.

> Then coming to the medical community, I went for a secong opinion

> to a doctor in one of the well known corporate hospitals in

CHennai.

> I had already gone to her earlier, before the disease made its

> presence felt, with all my symptoms only to be told that I

probably

> suffered from Clinical depression? she said I had a very bizarre

> presentation of symptoms.when I went back to her, an year later,

> after a preliminary diagnosis, she complained as to what I wanted

> now from her? She told me that it was a mess( looking at my xrays,

> prescriptions etc) and that when people come midway the doctor is

> the one to have to deal with the mess. A patient - a mess? what

> ethics are those? She was the pulmonologist, she could have put

the

> symptoms together got nearer the truth earlier. She charged a

> consultation and gave me the holy receipt? what for ? what would i

> do with that? any more than what I did with the astro guidance i

was

> subjected to?( I had no option and did not voluntarily seek it

mind

> u) she also went further and told me that I just was not up to any

> procedure to find out my disease and said any way what was it

worth

> for? I already had two badly damaged lungs not worth repair etc.

How

> soothing? Well can I condemn the medical fraternity?

> And here was my doctor(in India) who had advised me to take a

> second oipnion for a biopsy, and also offered to give some

discount

> coupons for ultrasounds(, he knew how much I had frittered away on

> clueless diagnosts), and a lot of hope. Well here I am. my lungs

are

> improving I dont know how but I feel a lot better. Prashant made a

> mention of various nidhi companies in Chennai, which went bust,

all

> of them gave a gold coin, meteoric interest rates and fancy

deposit

> certificates, receipts what are they worth now? not their weight

in

> paper.

> There are conmen everywhere, they are not limited to a single

> profession and if we let our bitter experiences cloud our

judgement

> we may lose out on the most beautiful truths that life could offer.

> Shantala ji, drain out the bitterness and find out how sweet life

> could be.

> And finally to receive is not a disgrace, it is Grace.

> regards

> Nalini

>

> "WHEN FACED WITH A HARDSHIP THINK OF IT AS A GRACE IT BECOMES ONE"

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Shantala

> >

> > It seems strange to read even theis apology as it more

> mechanical response to replies u've got in return for ur outbursts.

> >

> > IT WILL BE BETTER U PUT FORTH UR QUESTIONS AND OR THE CHARTS

U

> DISCUSSED AND WHAT U GOT OFF THE CHEATERS AS U CLAIM I AM SURE

> PEOPLE WIL THROW ENUF LITE ON THE quality of the people u visited

> not talking about their reputation ofcourse, there is one in

Madras

> who charges 37 per sitting. and has a quee, i know for sure he is

> no good.can talk bombasticaly, even the one the media goes and

> writes a lot the fat man from Mumbai.he know snothing useful.

> >

> >

> > every filed has it sets of good people bad ones, quacks worse,

> so do we decry the filed or the individual

> > medicinehas so far found cure for only 26 ailments rest r

only

> suppressents only. for the symptoms not the disease will u stop

> going to a doctor and condem the medical freternaty.

> >

> > WHY MODERN MEDICINE HAS FAILED IS IT HAS ALWAYS FOCUSED ON

> SYMPTOMS NOT ON THE DISEASE.

> >

> > JAPAN raks the 1st in medical care as for diagnosis it uses

> modern tech. for treatment it uses the traditional path which

> treats the person not the diease.

> >

> > say head aches are caused

> > 1 by weather

> > 2 by exertion

> > 3 emotional levels

> > 4 in controlling an emotional situation-indignation.

> > 5. eye disorders and so on alternate medicine, ayurveda,

> chineese, tibetian , homeo treat it that way

> > 6. in reaction to some food.

> > 7. BP levles.

> > allopathy treats the pain alone.

> >

> > common cold still is not curable by allppathy as

> >

> > it is also caused by some of the factors above apart for

> allergies to dust, pollens etc

> >

> > I AM SURE SOME COMMERCIAL ASTRLOGERS HAVE MADE UR LFIE BAD but

> how does the subject become bad..

> >

> > please read my mail on the possiblities, potential, LIMITS of

> astrology/astrologers I have pasted it y'day.

> >

> > as briefed to a western client 14 yrs ago

> > some have asked to adjustt he space and re-post it will do it

> again

> >

> > ANY SUBJECT /TOOL is as good as the end user. and the ones to

> check out on its use is entirely ours.

> >

> > while buying amatka people tap for teh sound, or a saree and

> check a few times do they show same thinking while investing with

> fly by night Nidhi or chit funds or hi intrest promisers no. can

we

> blame banking no our ouwn greed, anziety or copy cat syndrome max.

> >

> > Prashant

> > 9840051861

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > shantala_pandit <shantala_pandit@> wrote: Respected

> Arjunji,

> > since you are feeling so bad about my comments on

> jyotish/jyotishis,

> > let me at the outset offer my sincere apologies to you and

> anyone

> > else who felt the same as it looks like I have unintentionally

> hurt

> > sopme strong sentiments here.

> > Let me also clarify that my comments are as a result of my

> > experience with astrologers in general and definitely not with

> this

> > group of august astrologers as I obviously haven't even asked

> > anything.

> > Each human being is entitled to his opinions based on his

> > experience..you have had bitter experience with querents who

> want

> > free readings and don't ackmowledge your effort, similarly I

> have

> > had sour experiences with astrologers whom I had put faith in

> and

> > given money to..

> > I chose to give my frank and critical opinion based on my

> perception

> > of what jyotish can do better. If you feel that is wrong, lets

> agree

> > to disagree and close it at that.

> >

> > with regards,

> > Shantala.

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> >

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