Kindly Help - Irony of astrlogy/astrologers

February 21, 2006

Respected Krishnanji,

Ironically, one of my cousins also have exactly the

same details as this native has and as Mr. Rana had

said that some say that this period will be good

wheareas some say that this period will be bad.

Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly pray that I

am wrong in this case).

I just can't even think of doubting your reading

Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the native is

going to have tough time. Please help me clear my

doubts so that I can learn more and get benefitted

from the august company of this esteemed astrologers

in this group.

MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth, placed in

ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in deblity in

lagna in Navamsa.

AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic for the

scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord Mars. In

navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of Rashi lord

Mars.

Most of this action takes place in ninth house (a

badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost exact

degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This is

further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going through

Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with AK sun

aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from Major

Rashi.

AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from the Leo

and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents with

Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the PD rashi

and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of Capricorn, where

the GK is placed.

This made me think that the native will have a tough

time and only paray to be proved worng. May I request

you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

Also one thing that catched my attention is Cancer as

the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in it. Lord

of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to be a sign

of Mars. Does this have any significance or it dneote

any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

Best regards,

Akhil Jain

--- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> Dear Rana ji,

> with venus in lagna in navamsa and in 9th in the

> janma is propelled by pushyami nakshtra.lorded by

> saturn.with retrograde saturn in 3rd aspecting from

> own house,the native might have had health problems

> due to mars effect.Parents,particularly father has

> to take care of health.Moon in 6th and in navansa in

> 11th in own sign may be good but the native has to

> put in more efforts for his studies.Better not to

> over estimate positive results.The native will

> struggle and may encounte unexpected

> problems.jupiter aspecting moon in 11th in navamsa

> will see the native to encounter difficulties with

> confidence

> krishnan

>

> neeraj_rana30 <neeraj_rana30 wrote:

> Respected All Guruji

>

> Kindly help me. details of one of my cousion are

> DATE 9 June 1991 Time

> 6.00pm Moradabad. Kindly tell me adout his dasha of

> VENUS/SAT/MOON and

> VENUS/SAT/MARS. i am confused some say it is good

> and some say it is

> bad for him. kindly solve my problem

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

> Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free

> vedic astrology

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> To from this group, send an email

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February 21, 2006

Many years ago, I had posted on Compuserve (grandmother of Internet

as we know it today) a couple of charts, both with vrischic rising

and one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon.

Both were born within days of each other, in different countries,

only the moon was different in rashi. It was used as an example of

the confusion that the use of rashi alone can create in a blinded,

proactive situation creates, like if the two pairs of parents

approached you to predict what their beloved son would grow up to be!

And then this other aspect of their similarity -- the killer got a

life sentance, the surgeon got confinement too, in his career and in

his family life, and through the loss of his child.

Wake up calls, such charts!

RR

, akhil jain <robby_jn

wrote:

>

> Respected Krishnanji,

>

> Ironically, one of my cousins also have exactly the

> same details as this native has and as Mr. Rana had

> said that some say that this period will be good

> wheareas some say that this period will be bad.

> Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly pray that I

> am wrong in this case).

>

> I just can't even think of doubting your reading

> Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the native is

> going to have tough time. Please help me clear my

> doubts so that I can learn more and get benefitted

> from the august company of this esteemed astrologers

> in this group.

>

> MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth, placed in

> ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in deblity in

> lagna in Navamsa.

> AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic for the

> scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord Mars. In

> navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

> PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of Rashi lord

> Mars.

> Most of this action takes place in ninth house (a

> badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

> In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost exact

> degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This is

> further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

>

> In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going through

> Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

>

> Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with AK sun

> aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from Major

> Rashi.

> AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from the Leo

> and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

> PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents with

> Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the PD rashi

> and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of Capricorn, where

> the GK is placed.

>

> This made me think that the native will have a tough

> time and only paray to be proved worng. May I request

> you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

>

> Also one thing that catched my attention is Cancer as

> the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in it. Lord

> of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to be a sign

> of Mars. Does this have any significance or it dneote

> any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Akhil Jain

>

> --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> > Dear Rana ji,

> > with venus in lagna in navamsa and in 9th in the

> > janma is propelled by pushyami nakshtra.lorded by

> > saturn.with retrograde saturn in 3rd aspecting from

> > own house,the native might have had health problems

> > due to mars effect.Parents,particularly father has

> > to take care of health.Moon in 6th and in navansa in

> > 11th in own sign may be good but the native has to

> > put in more efforts for his studies.Better not to

> > over estimate positive results.The native will

> > struggle and may encounte unexpected

> > problems.jupiter aspecting moon in 11th in navamsa

> > will see the native to encounter difficulties with

> > confidence

> > krishnan

> >

> > neeraj_rana30 <neeraj_rana30 wrote:

> > Respected All Guruji

> >

> > Kindly help me. details of one of my cousion are

> > DATE 9 June 1991 Time

> > 6.00pm Moradabad. Kindly tell me adout his dasha of

> > VENUS/SAT/MOON and

> > VENUS/SAT/MARS. i am confused some say it is good

> > and some say it is

> > bad for him. kindly solve my problem

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free

> > vedic astrology

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

> >

> > To from this group, send an email

> > to:

> >

> > Your use of is subject to the

> >

> > What are the most popular cars? Find out at

> > Autos

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

>

February 21, 2006

Respected RRji,

I don't know why it haapens with me, but few months

back on this great forum itsel I came across a chart

very similar to that of my wife. And to make it more

interseting, the life pattern of that female was also

very similar as that of my wife, intenisties of

problem different, probably because of the penanace

done unknowingly.

This made me feel that similar charts imply similar

life patterns and your post is indeed a wake up call,

atleast for me.

Best Regards,

Akhil Jain

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> Many years ago, I had posted on Compuserve

> (grandmother of Internet

> as we know it today) a couple of charts, both with

> vrischic rising

> and one of a serial killer and the other of a very

> skilled surgeon.

> Both were born within days of each other, in

> different countries,

> only the moon was different in rashi. It was used as

> an example of

> the confusion that the use of rashi alone can create

> in a blinded,

> proactive situation creates, like if the two pairs

> of parents

> approached you to predict what their beloved son

> would grow up to be!

>

> And then this other aspect of their similarity --

> the killer got a

> life sentance, the surgeon got confinement too, in

> his career and in

> his family life, and through the loss of his child.

>

> Wake up calls, such charts!

>

> RR

>

> , akhil jain

> <robby_jn

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Krishnanji,

> >

> > Ironically, one of my cousins also have exactly

> the

> > same details as this native has and as Mr. Rana

> had

> > said that some say that this period will be good

> > wheareas some say that this period will be bad.

> > Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly pray

> that I

> > am wrong in this case).

> >

> > I just can't even think of doubting your reading

> > Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the

> native is

> > going to have tough time. Please help me clear my

> > doubts so that I can learn more and get benefitted

> > from the august company of this esteemed

> astrologers

> > in this group.

> >

> > MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth, placed

> in

> > ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in deblity in

> > lagna in Navamsa.

> > AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic for

> the

> > scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord Mars.

> In

> > navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

> > PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of Rashi

> lord

> > Mars.

> > Most of this action takes place in ninth house (a

> > badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

> > In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost exact

> > degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This is

> > further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

> >

> > In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going

> through

> > Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

> >

> > Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with AK

> sun

> > aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from Major

> > Rashi.

> > AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from the

> Leo

> > and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

> > PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents with

> > Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the PD

> rashi

> > and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of Capricorn,

> where

> > the GK is placed.

> >

> > This made me think that the native will have a

> tough

> > time and only paray to be proved worng. May I

> request

> > you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

> >

> > Also one thing that catched my attention is Cancer

> as

> > the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in it.

> Lord

> > of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to be a

> sign

> > of Mars. Does this have any significance or it

> dneote

> > any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Akhil Jain

> >

> > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Rana ji,

> > > with venus in lagna in navamsa and in 9th in

> the

> > > janma is propelled by pushyami nakshtra.lorded

> by

> > > saturn.with retrograde saturn in 3rd aspecting

> from

> > > own house,the native might have had health

> problems

> > > due to mars effect.Parents,particularly father

> has

> > > to take care of health.Moon in 6th and in

> navansa in

> > > 11th in own sign may be good but the native has

> to

> > > put in more efforts for his studies.Better not

> to

> > > over estimate positive results.The native will

> > > struggle and may encounte unexpected

> > > problems.jupiter aspecting moon in 11th in

> navamsa

> > > will see the native to encounter difficulties

> with

> > > confidence

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > > neeraj_rana30 <neeraj_rana30 wrote:

> > > Respected All Guruji

> > >

> > > Kindly help me. details of one of my cousion are

> > > DATE 9 June 1991 Time

> > > 6.00pm Moradabad. Kindly tell me adout his dasha

> of

> > > VENUS/SAT/MOON and

> > > VENUS/SAT/MARS. i am confused some say it is

> good

> > > and some say it is

> > > bad for him. kindly solve my problem

> > >

> > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > >

> > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free

> > > vedic astrology

> > >

> > > Visit your group "" on the

> web.

> > >

> > > To from this group, send an

> email

> > > to:

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to the

> > >

> > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at

>

> > > Autos

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

>

=== message truncated ===

February 21, 2006

Similar patterns -- yes but different settings!

One goes to jail because he used the knife inappropriately, the

other one relegated to a 'jail' of sorts where he was not allowed to

use the knife but during that confinement imposed by his 'boss' had

to take care of his child born with a congenital malady.

The 'suspension' allowed him to take care of and attend to the child

more intensively than a busy surgeon could if working full time to

his capability.

The child did not survive, eventually, the marriage dissolved -- a

bleak future not very different from that of a serial killer

experiencing a life sentance.

Just the moon different.

I cannot/should not talk more about this. Some players I can sense

are already feeling that it is a waste of their time, since I cannot

share any more at this time, here.

, akhil jain <robby_jn

wrote:

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I don't know why it haapens with me, but few months

> back on this great forum itsel I came across a chart

> very similar to that of my wife. And to make it more

> interseting, the life pattern of that female was also

> very similar as that of my wife, intenisties of

> problem different, probably because of the penanace

> done unknowingly.

>

> This made me feel that similar charts imply similar

> life patterns and your post is indeed a wake up call,

> atleast for me.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Akhil Jain

>

> --- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

>

> > Many years ago, I had posted on Compuserve

> > (grandmother of Internet

> > as we know it today) a couple of charts, both with

> > vrischic rising

> > and one of a serial killer and the other of a very

> > skilled surgeon.

> > Both were born within days of each other, in

> > different countries,

> > only the moon was different in rashi. It was used as

> > an example of

> > the confusion that the use of rashi alone can create

> > in a blinded,

> > proactive situation creates, like if the two pairs

> > of parents

> > approached you to predict what their beloved son

> > would grow up to be!

> >

> > And then this other aspect of their similarity --

> > the killer got a

> > life sentance, the surgeon got confinement too, in

> > his career and in

> > his family life, and through the loss of his child.

> >

> > Wake up calls, such charts!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , akhil jain

> > <robby_jn@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Krishnanji,

> > >

> > > Ironically, one of my cousins also have exactly

> > the

> > > same details as this native has and as Mr. Rana

> > had

> > > said that some say that this period will be good

> > > wheareas some say that this period will be bad.

> > > Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly pray

> > that I

> > > am wrong in this case).

> > >

> > > I just can't even think of doubting your reading

> > > Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the

> > native is

> > > going to have tough time. Please help me clear my

> > > doubts so that I can learn more and get benefitted

> > > from the august company of this esteemed

> > astrologers

> > > in this group.

> > >

> > > MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth, placed

> > in

> > > ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in deblity in

> > > lagna in Navamsa.

> > > AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic for

> > the

> > > scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord Mars.

> > In

> > > navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

> > > PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of Rashi

> > lord

> > > Mars.

> > > Most of this action takes place in ninth house (a

> > > badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

> > > In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost exact

> > > degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This is

> > > further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

> > >

> > > In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going

> > through

> > > Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

> > >

> > > Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with AK

> > sun

> > > aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from Major

> > > Rashi.

> > > AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from the

> > Leo

> > > and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

> > > PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents with

> > > Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the PD

> > rashi

> > > and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of Capricorn,

> > where

> > > the GK is placed.

> > >

> > > This made me think that the native will have a

> > tough

> > > time and only paray to be proved worng. May I

> > request

> > > you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

> > >

> > > Also one thing that catched my attention is Cancer

> > as

> > > the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in it.

> > Lord

> > > of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to be a

> > sign

> > > of Mars. Does this have any significance or it

> > dneote

> > > any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Akhil Jain

> > >

> > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Rana ji,

> > > > with venus in lagna in navamsa and in 9th in

> > the

> > > > janma is propelled by pushyami nakshtra.lorded

> > by

> > > > saturn.with retrograde saturn in 3rd aspecting

> > from

> > > > own house,the native might have had health

> > problems

> > > > due to mars effect.Parents,particularly father

> > has

> > > > to take care of health.Moon in 6th and in

> > navansa in

> > > > 11th in own sign may be good but the native has

> > to

> > > > put in more efforts for his studies.Better not

> > to

> > > > over estimate positive results.The native will

> > > > struggle and may encounte unexpected

> > > > problems.jupiter aspecting moon in 11th in

> > navamsa

> > > > will see the native to encounter difficulties

> > with

> > > > confidence

> > > > krishnan

> > > >

> > > > neeraj_rana30 <neeraj_rana30@> wrote:

> > > > Respected All Guruji

> > > >

> > > > Kindly help me. details of one of my cousion are

> > > > DATE 9 June 1991 Time

> > > > 6.00pm Moradabad. Kindly tell me adout his dasha

> > of

> > > > VENUS/SAT/MOON and

> > > > VENUS/SAT/MARS. i am confused some say it is

> > good

> > > > and some say it is

> > > > bad for him. kindly solve my problem

> > > >

> > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > >

> > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > >

> > > > Visit your group "" on the

> > web.

> > > >

> > > > To from this group, send an

> > email

> > > > to:

> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > >

> > > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at

> >

> > > > Autos

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

February 21, 2006

Respected RRji,

Thanks for sharing whatever you had on this subject

matter. But whatever you share on your own will had

definitely gone deep into my mind.

Best regards,

Akhil Jain

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> Similar patterns -- yes but different settings!

> One goes to jail because he used the knife

> inappropriately, the

> other one relegated to a 'jail' of sorts where he

> was not allowed to

> use the knife but during that confinement imposed by

> his 'boss' had

> to take care of his child born with a congenital

> malady.

>

> The 'suspension' allowed him to take care of and

> attend to the child

> more intensively than a busy surgeon could if

> working full time to

> his capability.

>

> The child did not survive, eventually, the marriage

> dissolved -- a

> bleak future not very different from that of a

> serial killer

> experiencing a life sentance.

>

> Just the moon different.

>

> I cannot/should not talk more about this. Some

> players I can sense

> are already feeling that it is a waste of their

> time, since I cannot

> share any more at this time, here.

>

> , akhil jain

> <robby_jn

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I don't know why it haapens with me, but few

> months

> > back on this great forum itsel I came across a

> chart

> > very similar to that of my wife. And to make it

> more

> > interseting, the life pattern of that female was

> also

> > very similar as that of my wife, intenisties of

> > problem different, probably because of the

> penanace

> > done unknowingly.

> >

> > This made me feel that similar charts imply

> similar

> > life patterns and your post is indeed a wake up

> call,

> > atleast for me.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Akhil Jain

> >

> > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> >

> > > Many years ago, I had posted on Compuserve

> > > (grandmother of Internet

> > > as we know it today) a couple of charts, both

> with

> > > vrischic rising

> > > and one of a serial killer and the other of a

> very

> > > skilled surgeon.

> > > Both were born within days of each other, in

> > > different countries,

> > > only the moon was different in rashi. It was

> used as

> > > an example of

> > > the confusion that the use of rashi alone can

> create

> > > in a blinded,

> > > proactive situation creates, like if the two

> pairs

> > > of parents

> > > approached you to predict what their beloved son

> > > would grow up to be!

> > >

> > > And then this other aspect of their similarity

> --

> > > the killer got a

> > > life sentance, the surgeon got confinement too,

> in

> > > his career and in

> > > his family life, and through the loss of his

> child.

> > >

> > > Wake up calls, such charts!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , akhil

> jain

> > > <robby_jn@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Krishnanji,

> > > >

> > > > Ironically, one of my cousins also have

> exactly

> > > the

> > > > same details as this native has and as Mr.

> Rana

> > > had

> > > > said that some say that this period will be

> good

> > > > wheareas some say that this period will be

> bad.

> > > > Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly

> pray

> > > that I

> > > > am wrong in this case).

> > > >

> > > > I just can't even think of doubting your

> reading

> > > > Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the

> > > native is

> > > > going to have tough time. Please help me clear

> my

> > > > doubts so that I can learn more and get

> benefitted

> > > > from the august company of this esteemed

> > > astrologers

> > > > in this group.

> > > >

> > > > MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth,

> placed

> > > in

> > > > ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in

> deblity in

> > > > lagna in Navamsa.

> > > > AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic

> for

> > > the

> > > > scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord

> Mars.

> > > In

> > > > navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

> > > > PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of

> Rashi

> > > lord

> > > > Mars.

> > > > Most of this action takes place in ninth house

> (a

> > > > badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

> > > > In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost

> exact

> > > > degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This

> is

> > > > further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

> > > >

> > > > In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going

> > > through

> > > > Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

> > > >

> > > > Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with

> AK

> > > sun

> > > > aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from

> Major

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from

> the

> > > Leo

> > > > and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

> > > > PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents

> with

> > > > Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the

> PD

> > > rashi

> > > > and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of

> Capricorn,

> > > where

> > > > the GK is placed.

> > > >

> > > > This made me think that the native will have a

> > > tough

> > > > time and only paray to be proved worng. May I

> > > request

> > > > you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

> > > >

> > > > Also one thing that catched my attention is

> Cancer

> > > as

> > > > the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in

> it.

> > > Lord

> > > > of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to

> be a

> > > sign

> > > > of Mars. Does this have any significance or it

> > > dneote

> > > > any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

>

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February 21, 2006

RRji,

Why a waste of time? knowledge in any shape is welcome, need not be

bottled, labelled "knowledge". on the flip side Goes to show how

mistakes and of what magnitude could be brought about by a

wrong/incorrect birth time, and we debate, prescribe remedies and go

through the entire gamut.

Nalini

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> Similar patterns -- yes but different settings!

> One goes to jail because he used the knife inappropriately, the

> other one relegated to a 'jail' of sorts where he was not allowed

to

> use the knife but during that confinement imposed by his 'boss'

had

> to take care of his child born with a congenital malady.

>

> The 'suspension' allowed him to take care of and attend to the

child

> more intensively than a busy surgeon could if working full time to

> his capability.

>

> The child did not survive, eventually, the marriage dissolved -- a

> bleak future not very different from that of a serial killer

> experiencing a life sentance.

>

> Just the moon different.

>

> I cannot/should not talk more about this. Some players I can sense

> are already feeling that it is a waste of their time, since I

cannot

> share any more at this time, here.

>

> , akhil jain <robby_jn@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I don't know why it haapens with me, but few months

> > back on this great forum itsel I came across a chart

> > very similar to that of my wife. And to make it more

> > interseting, the life pattern of that female was also

> > very similar as that of my wife, intenisties of

> > problem different, probably because of the penanace

> > done unknowingly.

> >

> > This made me feel that similar charts imply similar

> > life patterns and your post is indeed a wake up call,

> > atleast for me.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Akhil Jain

> >

> > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> >

> > > Many years ago, I had posted on Compuserve

> > > (grandmother of Internet

> > > as we know it today) a couple of charts, both with

> > > vrischic rising

> > > and one of a serial killer and the other of a very

> > > skilled surgeon.

> > > Both were born within days of each other, in

> > > different countries,

> > > only the moon was different in rashi. It was used as

> > > an example of

> > > the confusion that the use of rashi alone can create

> > > in a blinded,

> > > proactive situation creates, like if the two pairs

> > > of parents

> > > approached you to predict what their beloved son

> > > would grow up to be!

> > >

> > > And then this other aspect of their similarity --

> > > the killer got a

> > > life sentance, the surgeon got confinement too, in

> > > his career and in

> > > his family life, and through the loss of his child.

> > >

> > > Wake up calls, such charts!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , akhil jain

> > > <robby_jn@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Krishnanji,

> > > >

> > > > Ironically, one of my cousins also have exactly

> > > the

> > > > same details as this native has and as Mr. Rana

> > > had

> > > > said that some say that this period will be good

> > > > wheareas some say that this period will be bad.

> > > > Unfortunately, I belong to latter (can oly pray

> > > that I

> > > > am wrong in this case).

> > > >

> > > > I just can't even think of doubting your reading

> > > > Krishnanji, but I also had feelings that the

> > > native is

> > > > going to have tough time. Please help me clear my

> > > > doubts so that I can learn more and get benefitted

> > > > from the august company of this esteemed

> > > astrologers

> > > > in this group.

> > > >

> > > > MD lord Venus is lord of seventh & twelfth, placed

> > > in

> > > > ninth with lagna lord Mars. Venus is in deblity in

> > > > lagna in Navamsa.

> > > > AD lord Saturn is also a functional malefic for

> > > the

> > > > scorpio ascendant and aspects the lagna lord Mars.

> > > In

> > > > navamsa saturn is in deblity in eighth.

> > > > PD lord Moon is placed in sixth in sign of Rashi

> > > lord

> > > > Mars.

> > > > Most of this action takes place in ninth house (a

> > > > badhaksthana for scorpio) and ninth lord.

> > > > In gochar Saturn & Mars conjunct at allmost exact

> > > > degrees over the natal lagna lord Mars. This is

> > > > further coupled by the dhayya of shani.

> > > >

> > > > In Jaimini scheme, the native shall be going

> > > through

> > > > Libra/Leo/Sagg or Libra/Leo/Cap.

> > > >

> > > > Major Rashi Lira falls in twelfth house with AK

> > > sun

> > > > aspected by GK saturn. Sun is in eighth from Major

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > AD Rashi is Leo. GK saturn is in sixth from the

> > > Leo

> > > > and aspectes AK & Lord of Major rashi Sun.

> > > > PD rashi is saggitarius, rashi of accidents with

> > > > Saturn/Mars axis passing through 2/8 from the PD

> > > rashi

> > > > and AK sun in sixth. Next shall be of Capricorn,

> > > where

> > > > the GK is placed.

> > > >

> > > > This made me think that the native will have a

> > > tough

> > > > time and only paray to be proved worng. May I

> > > request

> > > > you sir, to kindly help me refine my skills.

> > > >

> > > > Also one thing that catched my attention is Cancer

> > > as

> > > > the badhaksthana with an evil plaet Mars in it.

> > > Lord

> > > > of Ninth Moon in sixth which also happens to be a

> > > sign

> > > > of Mars. Does this have any significance or it

> > > dneote

> > > > any special characteristic of chart or yoga?

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Akhil Jain

> > > >

> > > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Rana ji,

> > > > > with venus in lagna in navamsa and in 9th in

> > > the

> > > > > janma is propelled by pushyami nakshtra.lorded

> > > by

> > > > > saturn.with retrograde saturn in 3rd aspecting

> > > from

> > > > > own house,the native might have had health

> > > problems

> > > > > due to mars effect.Parents,particularly father

> > > has

> > > > > to take care of health.Moon in 6th and in

> > > navansa in

> > > > > 11th in own sign may be good but the native has

> > > to

> > > > > put in more efforts for his studies.Better not

> > > to

> > > > > over estimate positive results.The native will

> > > > > struggle and may encounte unexpected

> > > > > problems.jupiter aspecting moon in 11th in

> > > navamsa

> > > > > will see the native to encounter difficulties

> > > with

> > > > > confidence

> > > > > krishnan

> > > > >

> > > > > neeraj_rana30 <neeraj_rana30@> wrote:

> > > > > Respected All Guruji

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly help me. details of one of my cousion are

> > > > > DATE 9 June 1991 Time

> > > > > 6.00pm Moradabad. Kindly tell me adout his dasha

> > > of

> > > > > VENUS/SAT/MOON and

> > > > > VENUS/SAT/MARS. i am confused some say it is

> > > good

> > > > > and some say it is

> > > > > bad for him. kindly solve my problem

> > > > >

> > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > >

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February 21, 2006

Hi readers

I would request all of you to set ur mail to html settings will make a lot

writing more purpouseful as some area, lines can be highlighted or underlined

etc.

Now on the current case and comments on it

there are cases when people born in same hospital, same time are different

why and even if the same astrologer reads it, he will give different results

surely

as astrology is based on 3 main ingridents, the queriest karma, the

astrologers karma+dharma, and the almighty's grace thru intution, if there is

an perfect equilateral triangle only it gives a good reading, analysis else u

will find even good astrologers overlooking wha they have to really say or

remembering the actual prediction he had to give to the client only after he

has left or out of range.

astrology is meant to give hope, direction to those who seek advice from a

sincere issue and concern, not for comparative study, prowess etc. NEVER WORKS

THAT WAY.

IF the karma of the client/queiriest is that he can't get a good forecast it

is that it is not time for him to know a solutuon to his misery or there is

some more -ve karma to undergo, endure/suffer. when he his due to know even a

hotch potch astrologer can also tell him the right things, again it is the

divine intervention through intution that prevails. we r just a medim or mere

players in gods game, just interpret what he wants us to say or the clinet

deserves to know through us our knowledge is just a tool, he is the key for us

to deliver.

as I know a case where my mother and another person were born at ther same

time, but a few kms away max

he had a very bad rahu dasa, where as my mother had not a bad one, he had a v

good Guru dasa but my mother's cant' say good though in it only i was born with

other siblings, as she suffered hell with in-lwas, husband [father] and even

their cousins, sufered heart attack at 26, she had already given birth to 5

kids, mal-nurshed and over worled, lived in hell. we grew up in hell too that

is how I got into this subject to show some direction to a few I almight allows

me to be if use to any women as they hold the key toa happy family, thus a

happpy society.

if they r in tears who wil the society be happy. My parents r ok now with a

better understanding in their old age at least. they were good people all the

time,excpet that they reserved the good only ofr others not themselves noever

had any vices they helped others and not themselves.

for the technical situation said above

tere r a few points

there wil be diff in amsa lagnas all the 60 amsa possibe can be used for diff

purpouse.

the shastiamsa holds the key at times

a well placed planet may be in Shuba or krura shastiamsa which changes every

30 sec. a wlle placed but krura shastiamsa will give opp results. [see BPH.]

MOST IMPORTANT THE KARMA OF THE FAMILY A CHILD IS BORN INTO. depends on its

past karma to find such parentage only from where u launch ur life to improve

ur past or add to the ommissions of the past suffer more in this lfe and next

ones too.

the opening line of a horoscope

Janani Janma soukhya naaam...

Prashant

9840051861

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote: Many years ago, I had posted on

Compuserve (grandmother of Internet