Jyotish-20/2 as i BRIEFED some Westerners 14 yrs ago

February 19, 2006

All those space are distracting. Could you repost after cleaning up

the text a bit? I am sorry to have to ask you to do extra work, but

it seems important to you and would like to take a look if you can

repost in a better and readable format

Thanks

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> after reading a chain of reactionalry mails going in ping pong

directions, i felt may be I can add some more dimensions to it, at

least as I understood this and presented to my WESTERN CLIENTS on

the net 14 yrs ago. as fro them our Karmic dharma is alien.It is

part of my website, but have pasted all of them here for members

convience in 1 mail.

>

> I hope this effort is inthe right direction and would like a

free debate on this and any additions or deletions people for for

such a presentation.

> I also do tell my clientile the best reward/fee for my work is

FEEDBACK, IF I FAIL LET ME know at the earliest when I am right u

can tell me anytinme.

> we have to strive to sharper in helping the distressed seekers

than personal gratification or know how good we are.at the end of

the day if we can shape the course of a few people in better light

than they are when they seek our advice our part is done.

>

> Prashant Kumar GB

> 9840051861

>

> here it goes.

>

> Jyothishya (Astrology as it is called in the

West) is a study of light and light emanating

celestial bodies (called Grahas, in Hindu Astrology)

and its impact on animate and inanimate life around

us in a very holistic

dimension.

A branch of traditional

Indian wisdom of Vedic origin, covering various walks

of life, health, longevity, marriage, children,

career, business, gains, losses, assets,

liabilities, honour, shame, achievements, failings,

governance (people coming into power, their efforts,

intrigue/politics, welfare, employment, war, taxes

etc], weather, epidemics, contributions to society

etc.

>

> There are other branches of

traditional wisdom of Vedic origin like

> The knowledge was acquired with

observation, intuitive power, rigorous and a

righteous way of life, penances and meditation had

bestowed upon the dedicated few. The branches include

> Ayurveda

(medicine) herbal and roots and all form of natural

substances, according to this science no product of

nature is useless, every creation of nature has

some inherent potential use, even to cure. These

may be natural herbs, roots, flowers, leaves,

fruits, plants and soil to cure the most simplest to

complex health disorders.

> Yantra (in scripted texts on

copper plates, or Panchalohas - an alloy of five

metals mixed metal comprising of Gold, Silver,

Copper, Brass, Lead) and imbibed with some power to

perform a specific task like healing, shield

against ill-health, financial losses, childlessness

etc). To enhance prosperity, family, quality of

marriage, ward of evil-eye/spells etc

> Tantra (a similar act on a

lesser level mostly verbal). Short term benefits.

> Mantra (a

empowered chant, chanted verbally, some have a

prescribed number of recitations and when done in

multiples of them produced the desired effect, at

times with offering of sacrifices to a fire pit

called Homa or Havan for various above said gains

include bringing rains, bearing children,

establishing authority etc).

> Vaastu - Living area

and its surrounding, materials used for homes, lay-

outs for homes, work places, temples, city planning etc..

> Navarathnas=Gems Which are an

alternate way of mitigating or reducing evil

results of a planet in a horoscope and if possible help

weaker planets give their destined results to the

proportion destined in a horoscope. In areas of

health, domestic bliss, financial health.

> All such

knowledge resources were normally passed on from the

learned Gurus to their desiring Sishyas (disciples).

Who lived with them in a community called GuruKulam

or Ashram, the Guru's were financed by the Kings and

public at large, the students lived with them till

they had finished the training they came for.

Children drawn from all walks of life lived in a

simple home, irrespective of them being a prince or a

common man's son.

> Where the learning was groomed

more towards a systematic, just and equitable order

rooted in humane values along with scientific temper.

> Much of which deteriorated in

the middle ages under corrupt and tyrannical regimes.

Who used the religious and educational institutions

to pursue their selfish interests.

> Religion

and religious beliefs in every civilization are testimony

to such bigotry rulers who used it as weapon to

enslave the gullible lay-men.

> Who used the defeated subjects

as cheap or forced labor for their own ends. The

British and the European empires in the 15th

century onwards were the worst of the lot.

> Such heinous policies have made

an impact in a destructive trend fair play, living

standards, on true knowledge and vast depth of

quality information for the humankind remained in

the dark under the shackles of brute power.

>

> The Evolution

> The early knowledge was

acquired with observation, intuitive power, rigorous

and a righteous way of life. It was well developed

by our sages for all ages to come, most of the rules can be over

5000 years old and are universal in nature. Not bound

by any pre-set aging rules, has in-built features to

adopt it to the needs of the times. As the concepts

are universal, which do undergo changes with passage

of time.

> Any skilful scholar who adapts

the rules to the age, times, country, culture and

customs, that are mandatory, will not fail to

deliver.

> Their synthesis is quite

ancient and pre-dates many contemporary scholars claims of

other civilizations to be the

pioneers.

> There is mention of several

findings - planetary configurations in Ramayana, the

worlds first epic and also in Mahabharatha the other major epic.

> Like the discovery of Trans-

Saturnian's planets - Uranus, Neptune have found

references in epics like the Mahabharatha by Sage

Vedavyasa, the father of Parashara the founder of

Vedic Astrology.

> In Mahabharatha he points out

to the fact there is Greenish blue hued planet whose

rays are clear and visible to the naked eye, but not

strong enough to play a role in our forecasts.

> The constellation and its

exact location were also dwelt upon which can be traced

or worked backwards in Astronomy for its veracity. He

had also declared that they need not consider them in

Horoscope analysis.

> Trans-Saturnian's planets in Vedic

astrology do not have a role.

> Why they do not have a role

can be easily seen as they take a few hundreds of

years to complete a full orbit around the ZODIAC

[sun], which is clearly beyond a normal human being's life-

span.

> However they are otherwise

considered in the mundane aspect of astrology, which

covers nations, Governments, societies, companies,

organizations, civilizations that have a longer life span,

where there is a role in a different way.

> Like Yuga Dharma (the periods

characteristics) which change every 200 years a few

scales, but the over all changes is within the scope

of the current Yuga .

> Say, now we are in Kali Yuga,

which is considered a period of compromises on

Values, ethics, moral fabric, it matters more to

succeed, the means don't count any more.

> Likewise the periods of

inventions and discoveries of new frontiers, new

devices that make life simpler and easier for humankind,

literary movements, space exploration, spiritual

upsurges, the war-fare, counter defense theaters

etc are also part of this period. Which are changing

every 200 years in someway or the other in the aid areas.

> Thus "Jyothisha or Astrology"

is one of the limbs of the "Vedas" (5000 B.C.).

Hindus were the original masters who had the thorough

knowledge of astronomy and many rituals and religious

rites were related to the position of planets and

their motions. It was expected of all those who

wanted to understand Vedas, to be well versed with

the knowledge of astronomy and astrology.

> The earliest astronomical

works such as Surya Siddanta and Vedanga Jyothisha

are more then five thousand years old. Long before

the western astronomers and scientists, Kepler,

Copernicus, Brahe, Galilio and other galaxy of

astronomers were born, the Hindu sages had already

gained much knowledge on the stellar or planetary

universe. movements of planets, the ecliptic and its

precession, the solar flares, eclipses of the Sun and

Moon, the division of time. etc.

> Through sustained observation

and deductions they arrived at dividing time into

various elements, beginning from a Kalpa, Yuga to the

minutest Vighati

> A Yuga is a period of a few

million years There are four Yugass. forming a

Kalpa .or Maha Yuga.

> After each Kalpa there is a

recreation of the entire cosmic universe.

> Vighati - the smallest

element in time

> Ghati, the next, then

the day etc.

> A day of 24 hrs = 60 Ghatis, [30 Ghatis from

sunrise to sunset and the other from sunset to

sunrise next day)

> 1 hr = 2.5 Ghatis, I minute - 2.5 Vidhatis

etc.

>

> The Yugas – Ages

> The early Siddanthis - scholars in

astrophysics wrote down Siddhanthas or guiding

principles which are Hindu astronomical works that

give us the period of the Mahayuga which comprises of

four parts - Kritha, Thretha, Dwapara and Kali Yugas.

> It has been estimated that Mahayuga

comprises of 43,20,000 (Four Million, Three hundred

and twenty thousand years) and the age of our solar

system is 1972,949,099 (One thousand nine hundred

seventy two million and nine hundred and forty-nine

thousand ninety nine years) which will be

approximately 2,000 million years. This figure has

been tallied with the figures given by Sir James

Joans based on geological and astronomical study. It

is beyond our imagination how the Hindu Sages could

know these facts without the scientific instruments

available to the modern scientists.

> Vedas

> Vedas are the earliest of recorded

writings of the World's literature. Which were handed

down through the ages from the Guru [teacher] to

shisyas [taught] in ancient India.

> There are other works like

Upanishads [supplementary works on specific aspect of

life), Puranas (Epics like Ramayana, Mahabharatha)

totally 18 in number. Ithihasas (commentaries on

historical events) in most of these be it pure

religious texts or with a technical subjects, did not

make any difference as the style was so well

developed that from a single work the person of a

chosen field derived what he chose, for lay men it

was folk lore, for the philosophers there is

philosophy, for administrator's - politics and

statecraft, for the technocrats it revealed as a

science/craft work, say goldsmiths or blacksmiths or

sculptors/artisans, etc the text had a lot for all. It was

a matter of derivation with that bent of mind needed.

> There are four Vedas : Rig, Yajur,

Saama and Atharvana Vedas. They encompassed vast

reservoirs of knowledge in Science and Technology,

religion, medicine, theology, politics etc.

> In them, one could see the mention

of Vedanga (auxiliary Vedic branches-theology,

religion etc). Vedanga Jyothisha. In other words,

there are several verses devoted to explain the

astronomical knowledge in Rig-Veda and Atharvana

Veda.

>

> What does a Horoscope Portray?

> This is a humble effort to make

one understand this wonderful science in an improved

perspective and focus on what we have missed-out from our

rich and great heritage. Reasons could be different on

grounding in this heritage or lack of opportunities, time

or interest or inclination. This is one good chance to

start from for the better.

> Astrology covers vast areas of life not just

the past, present and future of this life but in the same

vein the other lives of an individual over the ages in

different beings taking several forms and lives to evolve into

what he is in this birth, which can also be seen through a

person's Horoscope. Earlier forms can mean birds, animals,

insects or plant life and so on. The normal scope will

remain the current life without doubt.

> The horoscope is a balance sheet of the opening

balances of `this life ' and thus the closing balance of

the past is `implied', i.e. the omissions and commissions -

Good or bad whatever one's scale may be. The Almighty has

its own to adjudicate what we deserve four our actions with

all its glory to all, in ones life cycle, irrespective of

one's consciousness to this fact, ` The wheel of life moves

on '. Everything that goes up has to come down due to the

force of gravity So also is life - Gravitate towards

changes.

> *Change is permanent and

naturally occurring, resistance to changes has shaped

history in the triumph of truth, the battle between the orthodoxy

and the heterodoxy, unfortunately as seen by the west

more of the orthodoxy had a strong political

clout.*

> As such some acts of the past (even

past life) if it had some known goodness to it by a

conscious has more merit to give give favourable resources

and events in successive life's and if there were a mixture

of goodness in bad ones might give one a choice in this

life to make amends or improve upon and carry on the

present life better. While some acts might take quite a

few lives to make amends. The accent is certainly on the

quality of this life.

> Depending on what went wrong, with one's

intellect [one's free-will] which might have been

disregarded, or used for short term gains, gives this life

its present shape. As God has given only the human being

the mind, heart and intellect to use for his betterment and

the world he lives in, abusing or over indulgence in

animal instincts, mean and false pursuits.

> Or doing some unselfish, charitable, noble acts

that add up to the balance sheet of our life and lives to

come. In the form of great openings and opportunities,

luck, happiness, sound health and so on. The opposite like

lost opportunities, `missing the bus' not realizing the

full potential of a person is the hallmark of a life of of

the former category.

>

> To cite an example,

> When a person is about to chose to marry

someone, choices used to be made from select sources, at

least in India ( in Asia) there were some choice(s) till

recently of course. The trend is changing in India too.

> The attention being on, the mental

compatibility, compassion, moral and social values etc.

finances and security were also considered.

> Off late materialistic scales weigh more

unfortunately like status, pay scales, bank balances,

education rather than character, mental outlook, compassion

etc are catching up as a malaise. Which are

wrecking many a happy home. Quite often a person may have a

late start in life or a breakthrough in life, which is

more important even if they happen to be humble or of mean

status to day. The growth potential if any must be a factor

to watch for along with character of course..

> People did and do consult good astrologers, or

tantriks (soothsayers) etc. or sometimes a well-wisher

might throw light good or bad about someone's antecedents

which may have a say in the final outcome (this has been

so in all the spheres of life- business, employment etc).

> A Horoscope study does all these. This is a

science of sciences, though it does not fall into the class

of science per se, where demonstrableness is open to

scrutiny and should stand up for consistency.

> The most glowing testimonial as to how

Astrology was used with astute discretion to an advantage

to undo the then mighty Soviet Union by USA's former

President Ronald Reagan, as disclosed by his secretary

Donald Reagan, in his Biography about his White House

days. Donald Reagan said that Ronald Reagan used to plan

all key-strategies, meetings with the Soviet leaders, on

arms reduction, Nuclear non-proliferation, Star Wars the

ultimate deterrent against any power that was or could

emerge as a threat to USA's interests, and NATO, UNO too, paying

hefty fees to his astrologers more than he (President)

himself made, which justified the final outcome

> The dismembering the Soviet Union. Without

actually engaging in any warfare but just one upmanship

through good, wise council of advisors from all fronts

including astrologers. At a time when the Soviets and the

Eastern block were such a major threat to Global peace and well-

bein, speaks volumes of the usefulness of

astrology.

> A cursory glance into Indian history reveals

several such occasions where eminent rulers used

traditional wisdom for the welfare of their subjects, like

crop and weather patterns, town/fort planning, expansion of

empires etc., there are also instances where it was used by

the avaricious rulers to utter disregard of all moral or

righteous reasons, madly conquering smaller kingdoms and

crushing the locals for their greed.

> In India there are references throughout

history on the use of astrology or astrologgers, an example

from the present times. ENTER THE SOOTHSAYER. a

chapter from Indian Independence history of India, from a

book Titled from Cruzan to Nehru and after. By Durga Das.

> This has references to various historic events

then, which show the validity of astrology, in spite of

Nehru's hypocrisy when he publicly used to make fun of all

traditional wisdom (as obsolete and obscurantist) but

privately used them.

> Instances of his letter to his daughter Indira Gandhi to

consult an astrologer for casting the horoscope of her new

born son, Rajiv Gandhi, correctly considering `wartime'

correction of 1hr to be made etc. were withdrawn from his

works, [to preserve his modern and secular image after

becoming India's Prime Minster] but is preserved

faithfully in the British Museum, London.

>

> The main focus in astrology

> All the needs of a native

(client) are addressed specifically and forecasted

with reference to a time frame, if the events needs

some push due to weakness of the conferring period,

some prayers or gemstones are recommended.

> Accuracy of horoscope

calculations and quality readings go hand in hand.

All auspicious and sensitive events in as much of

closeness in time of the event as possible, will be

analyzed and told except where the horoscope reveals

a person can't handle tough forecasts.

> This

being a Humane science, where some bitter pills can and will

be sugar-coated objectively (human

being) NOT Subjectively (Astrology as a science)

though many things predicted can be and have been

proved true over the centuries. It is a science,

which raises hope and tolerance levels in trying

situations, with forbearance and stoicism.

> At times `apparently' false hopes are raised,

when they cannot accept unpleasant forecasts. predictions when

sugarcoated are spaced with a healthy time frame where acceptance

of such forecasts can be built up, on the inner strength of the

individuals capacity to come to terms in accepting such forecasts.

> Both ignorance or fear of the

future are no solutions. A good road map is the

answer.

>

> Eastern-Western Approaches to

Astrology

> There are many points where

the Eastern (Indian/Hindu/Vedic) Astrology in their

scope and reach is on a stronger and surer turf than

the Western Astrology.

>

> The system of arriving

at nearer time frames of days or weeks to an

event, at a time to the day subject to the

exactness to the time of birth .

>

> The Sun Sign based

western astrology is too vast and could cover a

multitude of people across the

globe to make sense for a

single person at a time. Say 12% of the world's

population. Where as in the India approach it is

unique to a person himself, like the finger prints of any

two people being not the same.

>

> Some areas like

character analysis; health, genial outlook etc

(though something more than general and less specific)

are better as more statistical and symbolic

studies are undertaken, considered. Compared to

the amount of such studies in Vedic astrology

which otherwise has great inbuilt depth on these

subjects.

>

> The Salient features of the

Vedic Astrology are:

>

> The Vedic system follows

the lunar mansions, stars that are a day at

maximum duration. Here too covers a wide range of

people. Hence the Lagna or

Ascendant, has a vital role and more

specifically in the Harmonic charts called the Vargas.

>

> The system of arriving

at the specific nature of an individual is unique

to Vedic astrology as stated in later paragraphs on

the Desha, Kaala, Paristhithi dictum which can be

unique for people born on the same time in the

same hospital, yet different results can be

expected. There may be some broad areas though in

their nature complexion etc. but vast differences

will be there in finances, luck, education,

health etc. Again this is dependent on the family

one is born in and their shared

Karma.

>

> The choices and remedies

in the form of gem stones, prayers etc., in cases

where a need to strengthen a weak period is

possible.

>

> The Vedic school of

thought envisaged the changes of time, culture,

values etc and has the strength to take all of

them in their stride and make fantastic

predictions for all times, ages, societies to

come.

>

> Desha -

Meant the country, its government, rules and its culture

> Kaala - The age or period which

has its own values in different counties or regions.

> Paraithithi - The circumstances

or local situations which make the society its

laws, its religion, education, profession, health and

food habits etc.

> Above all the

proof of the pudding lies in eating it and Time and

again Vedic Astrology has withstood the test of time

and has risen to the challenges posed by humankind

with aplomb. on its own when the cases themselves

speak for the subject.

>

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February 20, 2006

Dear Friend,

It appears it can be very good input for a kind of SWOT analysis we can

venture in to know what we are doing ,what has been done so far in jyotisha,what

remains to be done and how do we proceed to achieve tasks

May be you can too try and enjoy if it is ping pong or as you say otherwise

krishnan

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

Dear Members,

after reading a chain of reactionalry mails going in ping pong directions, i

felt may be I can add some more dimensions to it, at least as I understood this

and presented to my WESTERN CLIENTS on the net 14 yrs ago. as fro them our

Karmic dharma is alien.It is part of my website, but have pasted all of them

here for members convience in 1 mail.

I hope this effort is inthe right direction and would like a free debate on

this and any additions or deletions people for for such a presentation.

I also do tell my clientile the best reward/fee for my work is FEEDBACK, IF I

FAIL LET ME know at the earliest when I am right u can tell me anytinme.

we have to strive to sharper in helping the distressed seekers than personal

gratification or know how good we are.at the end of the day if we can shape

the course of a few people in better light than they are when they seek our

advice our part is done.

Prashant Kumar GB

9840051861

here it goes.

Jyothishya (Astrology as it is called in the West) is a study

of light and light emanating celestial bodies (called Grahas, in

Hindu Astrology) and its impact on animate and inanimate life

around us in a very holistic dimension.

A branch of traditional Indian wisdom of Vedic origin,

covering various walks of life, health, longevity, marriage,

children, career, business, gains, losses, assets, liabilities,

honour, shame, achievements, failings, governance (people coming

into power, their efforts, intrigue/politics, welfare,

employment, war, taxes etc], weather, epidemics, contributions

to society etc.

There are other branches of traditional

wisdom of Vedic origin like

The knowledge was acquired with observation,

intuitive power, rigorous and a righteous way of life, penances

and meditation had bestowed upon the dedicated few. The branches

include

Ayurveda (medicine)

herbal and roots and all form of natural substances, according

to this science no product of nature is useless, every creation

of nature has some inherent potential use, even to cure. These

may be natural herbs, roots, flowers, leaves, fruits, plants

and soil to cure the most simplest to complex health disorders.

Yantra (in scripted texts on copper plates,

or Panchalohas - an alloy of five metals mixed metal comprising

of Gold, Silver, Copper, Brass, Lead) and imbibed with some

power to perform a specific task like healing, shield against

ill-health, financial losses, childlessness etc). To enhance

prosperity, family, quality of marriage, ward of

evil-eye/spells etc

Tantra (a similar act on a lesser level

mostly verbal). Short term benefits.

Mantra (a empowered chant,

chanted verbally, some have a prescribed number of recitations

and when done in multiples of them produced the desired effect,

at times with offering of sacrifices to a fire pit called Homa

or Havan for various above said gains include bringing rains,

bearing children, establishing authority etc).

Vaastu - Living area and its

surrounding, materials used for homes, lay-outs for homes, work

places, temples, city planning etc..

Navarathnas=Gems Which are an alternate way

of mitigating or reducing evil results of a planet in a

horoscope and if possible help weaker planets give their

destined results to the proportion destined in a horoscope. In

areas of health, domestic bliss, financial health.

All such knowledge resources

were normally passed on from the learned Gurus to their desiring

Sishyas (disciples). Who lived with them in a community called

GuruKulam or Ashram, the Guru's were financed by the Kings and

public at large, the students lived with them till they had

finished the training they came for. Children drawn from all

walks of life lived in a simple home, irrespective of them being

a prince or a common man's son.

Where the learning was groomed more towards a

systematic, just and equitable order rooted in humane values

along with scientific temper.

Much of which deteriorated in the middle

ages under corrupt and tyrannical regimes. Who used the religious

and educational institutions to pursue their selfish interests.

Religion and religious

beliefs in every civilization are testimony to such bigotry

rulers who used it as weapon to enslave the gullible lay-men.

Who used the defeated subjects as cheap or

forced labor for their own ends. The British and the European

empires in the 15th century onwards were the worst of the lot.

Such heinous policies have made an impact in

a destructive trend fair play, living standards, on

true knowledge and vast depth of quality information for the

humankind remained in the dark under the shackles of brute

power.

The Evolution

The early knowledge was acquired with

observation, intuitive power, rigorous and a righteous way of

life. It was well developed by our sages for all ages to come,

most of the rules can be over 5000 years old and are universal in

nature. Not bound by any pre-set aging rules, has in-built

features to adopt it to the needs of the times. As the concepts

are universal, which do undergo changes with passage of time.

Any skilful scholar who adapts the rules

to the age, times, country, culture and customs, that are

mandatory, will not fail to deliver.

Their synthesis is quite ancient and

pre-dates many contemporary scholars claims of other

civilizations to be the pioneers.

There is mention of several findings -

planetary configurations in Ramayana, the worlds first epic and

also in Mahabharatha the other major epic.

Like the discovery of Trans-Saturnian's

planets - Uranus, Neptune have found references in epics like the

Mahabharatha by Sage Vedavyasa, the father of Parashara the

founder of Vedic Astrology.

In Mahabharatha he points out to the fact

there is Greenish blue hued planet whose rays are clear and

visible to the naked eye, but not strong enough to play a role in

our forecasts.

The constellation and its exact location

were also dwelt upon which can be traced or worked backwards in

Astronomy for its veracity. He had also declared that they need

not consider them in Horoscope analysis.

Trans-Saturnian's planets in Vedic astrology

do not have a role.

Why they do not have a role can be easily

seen as they take a few hundreds of years to complete a full

orbit around the ZODIAC [sun], which is clearly beyond a normal

human being's life-span.

However they are otherwise considered in

the mundane aspect of astrology, which covers nations,

Governments, societies, companies, organizations, civilizations

that have a longer life span, where there is a role in a

different way.

Like Yuga Dharma (the periods

characteristics) which change every 200 years a few scales, but

the over all changes is within the scope of the current Yuga .

Say, now we are in Kali Yuga, which is

considered a period of compromises on Values, ethics, moral

fabric, it matters more to succeed, the means don't count any

more.

Likewise the periods of inventions and

discoveries of new frontiers, new devices that make life simpler

and easier for humankind, literary movements, space exploration,

spiritual upsurges, the war-fare, counter defense theaters etc

are also part of this period. Which are changing every 200 years

in someway or the other in the aid areas.

Thus "Jyothisha or Astrology" is one of the

limbs of the "Vedas" (5000 B.C.). Hindus were the

original masters who had the thorough knowledge of astronomy and

many rituals and religious rites were related to the position of

planets and their motions. It was expected of all those who

wanted to understand Vedas, to be well versed with the knowledge

of astronomy and astrology.

The earliest astronomical works such as

Surya Siddanta and Vedanga Jyothisha are more then five thousand

years old. Long before the western astronomers and scientists,

Kepler, Copernicus, Brahe, Galilio and other galaxy of

astronomers were born, the Hindu sages had already gained much

knowledge on the stellar or planetary universe. movements of

planets, the ecliptic and its precession, the solar flares,

eclipses of the Sun and Moon, the division of time. etc.

Through sustained observation and

deductions they arrived at dividing time into various elements,

beginning from a Kalpa, Yuga to the minutest Vighati

A Yuga is a period of a few million years

There are four Yugass. forming a Kalpa .or Maha Yuga.

After each Kalpa there is a recreation of

the entire cosmic universe.

Vighati - the smallest element in

time

Ghati, the next, then the day etc.

A day of 24 hrs = 60 Ghatis, [30 Ghatis from sunrise to

sunset and the other from sunset to sunrise next day)

1 hr = 2.5 Ghatis, I minute - 2.5 Vidhatis etc.

The Yugas – Ages

The early Siddanthis - scholars in astrophysics

wrote down Siddhanthas or guiding principles which are Hindu

astronomical works that give us the period of the Mahayuga which

comprises of four parts - Kritha, Thretha, Dwapara and Kali Yugas.

It has been estimated that Mahayuga comprises of

43,20,000 (Four Million, Three hundred and twenty thousand years)

and the age of our solar system is 1972,949,099 (One thousand

nine hundred seventy two million and nine hundred and forty-nine

thousand ninety nine years) which will be approximately 2,000

million years. This figure has been tallied with the figures

given by Sir James Joans based on geological and astronomical

study. It is beyond our imagination how the Hindu Sages could

know these facts without the scientific instruments available to

the modern scientists.

Vedas

Vedas are the earliest of recorded writings of

the World's literature. Which were handed down through the ages

from the Guru [teacher] to shisyas [taught] in ancient India.

There are other works like Upanishads

[supplementary works on specific aspect of life), Puranas (Epics

like Ramayana, Mahabharatha) totally 18 in number. Ithihasas

(commentaries on historical events) in most of these be it pure

religious texts or with a technical subjects, did not make any

difference as the style was so well developed that from a single

work the person of a chosen field derived what he chose, for lay

men it was folk lore, for the philosophers there is philosophy,

for administrator's - politics and statecraft, for the

technocrats it revealed as a science/craft work, say goldsmiths

or blacksmiths or sculptors/artisans, etc the text had a lot for

all. It was a matter of derivation with that bent of mind needed.

There are four Vedas : Rig, Yajur, Saama and

Atharvana Vedas. They encompassed vast reservoirs of knowledge in

Science and Technology, religion, medicine, theology, politics

etc.

In them, one could see the mention of Vedanga

(auxiliary Vedic branches-theology, religion etc). Vedanga

Jyothisha. In other words, there are several verses devoted to

explain the astronomical knowledge in Rig-Veda and Atharvana

Veda.

What does a Horoscope Portray?

This is a humble effort to make one

understand this wonderful science in an improved perspective and focus

on what we have missed-out from our rich and great heritage. Reasons

could be different on grounding in this heritage or lack of

opportunities, time or interest or inclination. This is one good chance

to start from for the better.

Astrology covers vast areas of life not just the past,

present and future of this life but in the same vein the other lives of

an individual over the ages in different beings taking several forms

and lives to evolve into what he is in this birth, which can also be

seen through a person's Horoscope. Earlier forms can mean birds,

animals, insects or plant life and so on. The normal scope will remain

the current life without doubt.

The horoscope is a balance sheet of the opening balances of

`this life ' and thus the closing balance of the past is `implied',

i.e. the omissions and commissions - Good or bad whatever one's scale

may be. The Almighty has its own to adjudicate what we deserve four our

actions with all its glory to all, in ones life cycle, irrespective of

one's consciousness to this fact, ` The wheel of life moves on '.

Everything that goes up has to come down due to the force of gravity So

also is life - Gravitate towards changes.

*Change is permanent and naturally occurring,

resistance to changes has shaped history in the triumph of truth, the

battle between the orthodoxy and the heterodoxy, unfortunately as

seen by the west more of the orthodoxy had a strong political clout.*

As such some acts of the past (even past life) if

it had some known goodness to it by a conscious has more merit to give

give favourable resources and events in successive life's and if there

were a mixture of goodness in bad ones might give one a choice in this

life to make amends or improve upon and carry on the present life

better. While some acts might take quite a few lives to make amends.

The accent is certainly on the quality of this life.

Depending on what went wrong, with one's intellect [one's

free-will] which might have been disregarded, or used for short term

gains, gives this life its present shape. As God has given only the

human being the mind, heart and intellect to use for his betterment and

the world he lives in, abusing or over indulgence in animal instincts,

mean and false pursuits.

Or doing some unselfish, charitable, noble acts that add up

to the balance sheet of our life and lives to come. In the

form of great openings and opportunities, luck, happiness, sound health

and so on. The opposite like lost opportunities, `missing the bus' not

realizing the full potential of a person is the hallmark of a life of

of the former category.

To cite an example,

When a person is about to chose to marry someone, choices

used to be made from select sources, at least in India ( in Asia) there

were some choice(s) till recently of course. The trend is changing in

India too.

The attention being on, the mental compatibility, compassion,

moral and social values etc. finances and security were also

considered.

Off late materialistic scales weigh more unfortunately like

status, pay scales, bank balances, education rather than character,

mental outlook, compassion etc are catching up as a malaise.

Which are wrecking many a happy home. Quite often a person may have a

late start in life or a breakthrough in life, which is more important

even if they happen to be humble or of mean status to day. The growth

potential if any must be a factor to watch for along with character of

course..

People did and do consult good astrologers, or tantriks

(soothsayers) etc. or sometimes a well-wisher might throw light good or

bad about someone’s antecedents which may have a say in the final

outcome (this has been so in all the spheres of life- business,

employment etc).

A Horoscope study does all these. This is a science of

sciences, though it does not fall into the class of science per se,

where demonstrableness is open to scrutiny and should stand up for

consistency.

The most glowing testimonial as to how Astrology was used

with astute discretion to an advantage to undo the then mighty Soviet

Union by USA's former President Ronald Reagan, as disclosed by his

secretary Donald Reagan, in his Biography about his White House days.

Donald Reagan said that Ronald Reagan used to plan all key-strategies,

meetings with the Soviet leaders, on arms reduction, Nuclear

non-proliferation, Star Wars the ultimate deterrent against any power

that was or could emerge as a threat to USA's interests, and NATO, UNO

too, paying hefty fees to his astrologers more than he (President)

himself made, which justified the final outcome

The dismembering the Soviet Union. Without actually engaging

in any warfare but just one upmanship through good, wise council of

advisors from all fronts including astrologers. At a time when the

Soviets and the Eastern block were such a major threat to Global peace

and well-bein, speaks volumes of the usefulness of astrology.

A cursory glance into Indian history reveals several such

occasions where eminent rulers used traditional wisdom for the welfare

of their subjects, like crop and weather patterns, town/fort planning,

expansion of empires etc., there are also instances where it was used

by the avaricious rulers to utter disregard of all moral or righteous

reasons, madly conquering smaller kingdoms and crushing the locals for

their greed.

In India there are references throughout history on the use

of astrology or astrologgers, an example from the present times. ENTER

THE SOOTHSAYER. a chapter from Indian Independence history of India,

from a book Titled from Cruzan to Nehru and after. By Durga Das.

This has references to various historic events then, which

show the validity of astrology, in spite of Nehru's hypocrisy when he

publicly used to make fun of all traditional wisdom (as obsolete and

obscurantist) but privately used them.

Instances of his letter to his daughter Indira Gandhi to consult an

astrologer for casting the horoscope of her new born son, Rajiv Gandhi,

correctly considering `wartime' correction of 1hr to be made etc. were

withdrawn from his works, [to preserve his modern and secular image

after becoming India's Prime Minster] but is preserved faithfully in

the British Museum, London.

The main focus in astrology

All the needs of a native (client) are

addressed specifically and forecasted with reference to a time

frame, if the events needs some push due to weakness of the

conferring period, some prayers or gemstones are recommended.

Accuracy of horoscope calculations and

quality readings go hand in hand. All auspicious and sensitive

events in as much of closeness in time of the event as possible,

will be analyzed and told except where the horoscope reveals a

person can't handle tough forecasts.

This being a Humane

science, where some bitter pills can and will be sugar-coated

objectively (human being) NOT Subjectively (Astrology as a

science) though many things predicted can be and have been

proved true over the centuries. It is a science, which raises

hope and tolerance levels in trying situations, with

forbearance and stoicism.

At times `apparently' false hopes are raised, when they

cannot accept unpleasant forecasts. predictions when sugarcoated are spaced

with a healthy time frame where acceptance of such forecasts can be built up,

on the inner strength of the individuals capacity to come to terms in accepting

such forecasts.

Both ignorance or fear of the future are no

solutions. A good road map is the answer.

Eastern-Western Approaches to Astrology

There are many points where the Eastern

(Indian/Hindu/Vedic) Astrology in their scope and reach is on a

stronger and surer turf than the Western Astrology.

The system of arriving at nearer time

frames of days or weeks to an event, at a time to the day

subject to the exactness to the time of birth .

The Sun Sign based western astrology

is too vast and could cover a multitude of people across the

globe to make sense for a single person

at a time. Say 12% of the world's population. Where as in the

India approach it is unique to a person himself, like the

finger prints of any two people being not the same.

Some areas like character analysis;

health, genial outlook etc (though something more than

general and less specific) are better as more statistical

and symbolic studies are undertaken, considered. Compared to

the amount of such studies in Vedic astrology which otherwise

has great inbuilt depth on these subjects.

The Salient features of the Vedic Astrology

are:

The Vedic system follows the lunar

mansions, stars that are a day at maximum duration. Here too

covers a wide range of people. Hence the

Lagna or Ascendant, has a vital role and more specifically

in the Harmonic charts called the Vargas.

The system of arriving at the specific

nature of an individual is unique to Vedic astrology as

stated in later paragraphs on the Desha, Kaala, Paristhithi

dictum which can be unique for people born on the same time

in the same hospital, yet different results can be expected.

There may be some broad areas though in their nature

complexion etc. but vast differences will be there in

finances, luck, education, health etc. Again this is

dependent on the family one is born in and their shared

Karma.

The choices and remedies in the form

of gem stones, prayers etc., in cases where a need to

strengthen a weak period is possible.

The Vedic school of thought envisaged

the changes of time, culture, values etc and has the strength

to take all of them in their stride and make fantastic

predictions for all times, ages, societies to come.

Desha - Meant the

country, its government, rules and its culture

Kaala - The age or period which has its own

values in different counties or regions.

Paraithithi - The circumstances or local

situations which make the society its laws, its religion,

education, profession, health and food habits etc.

Above all the proof of the

pudding lies in eating it and Time and again Vedic Astrology has

withstood the test of time and has risen to the challenges posed

by humankind with aplomb. on its own when the cases themselves

speak for the subject.

Prashant

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February 20, 2006

Dear Prashan jee,

Such issues as:to strive sharper...."know how good we are........ when they

seek our advice....... our part is done"

are personal and depends on one's approaches and liking.Probably these may

really relevant through personal contacts as professiona and justified when you

say:to strive to sharper in helping the distressed"

Also how people really take astrological tips in their stride and follow is a

mute point.As you said"distress"leads to all kinds efforts as they are needy.Yet

we as professional can only advice but can not entirely change destinies.Iam

sure as an experienced Astrology with market feel your dedication is commendable