Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hi Nalini, it is nice to read ur reply and also abt GKS, sure hhe has defnitely inspired many and wheever we get a chance like this people who r overwhelmed by their apparent discomforts do tell them or take them to his place it is a awe inspiring experience to meet such peoople. I've not achieved much in life yet unlike a cousin of our parents who is an albino like me and my elder brother where the color pogmentation is lacking so sight is minimal, nystagmus adds to its poorer quality, by the unlce i meant has a name for himself like Dr Shakuntala Devi of Mathas, he is a visiting prof in several international universites while he was working now retd as AP unif HOD-maths. life is not been easy for us but we do make it meaningful or understandable for as many as I can. hailing for a disturebed mariage parentage and seen its consequences do take time to make sure some women at least r better guided if they care to head our guidences of course. when i meant disturbed it is not due to the regular alcholic, macho stufs it is more a competetive and compulsive nature of my parents to be good to as many people but themselves. but with advancing age they r also settling down now a lot better. my father raised his siblings 8 of them and their children when his father died when he was 20 from 17 he was down with TB so the presure was v high to do thigns for them and whith his own family had little resources, patience to guide, shape. that is all for now prashant prashant auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: Respected prashant Kumar Ji, Profuse thanks for your insightful portrait of my mental state. It is right that I worry, and am anxious a lot, sometimes unnecessarily. I now correct myself when I feel I am going overboard. I have always wanted to write but I thought I was not creative enough to do it, hence I have never attempted it. It is also like this sometimes at night I mentally write out pieces of work while trying to sleep, my thoughts etc and once I do that the urge to put it on paper/computer is lost. I am really fortunate to have chanced upon the forum JR as it has not only given me immense satisfaction, a Guru and so many friends who have taken out so much of their valuable time to give me solace. Interaction with the learned members has given me a new lease of life. Wherever I am I shall always be grateful to RRji, Krishnan ji, you sir, Pandit Arjunji, Kuldhir bhati ji and others for helping me out in my most trying times.I would always be happy to reciprocate if need be in whatever way I could. I have also taken my lesson from Sri GK.Sivaraman. Thanks and regards Nalini , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > HHi Nalini > > I am replying to ur questions along with others, tho it is mainly addressed to Krishnaji who is doing a good job as well. > > there r a few reasons why u r not getting the right treatment, diagnosis from meds. > > ur lagna lord and 4th lord Budha > with chandra [mano karama] > and with ketu [bheethi karaka] > 4th occupied by rahu > > BV Raman has said a few things esp ont he mental healt and > occupation of a malefic in KANYA the natural sign of health in a Kalapurasha chart as basis for any health analysys. if kanya is aflicted so is health > all problems in our life start from mind and the stomach. > good easily digestable and fresh food less spicy or salime/acidic, preserved etc. > some forms of meditation or mental relaxation too. > > > back to the 4th house its lords , association. > > the above combination makes it hard for u to focus on anything and shifting positions, with fears, anxieties about the future of ur family, ur health, mobility etc prevail for u to give a doctor a clear picture of ur actual trouble or symptoms to help you. > > Also whenever chaya grahas join lumaniries esp ketu chandra or rahu chandra there is `halucniation or `Bramha', this also gives rise to exalted or high thinking also, allows people to be off- beat, innovative, inventive also when they use it creatively and move out of fears, conventions, lot of scientists , thinkers have this and happening in Meena a Moksha sthana makes u better placed and with the philospical planets Guru and sani in Dhanus [these 2 planets when within Dhanus-Meena] make people a lot more spiritual, philosiphical. it is possible u can wirte a good book, u can draw some inspirations from Lifes like that, Drama in Real life, and such challangeing articles in READER'S DIGEST and wirte your own life. and in vernacular magazines can inspire many. I can give u case of a well to do peoson > who studied in US, after his studies travelled throught the states, then, on the way back traveled in Europe, having seen the world wanted to see India too, so on a travel at Nagpur had brain fever before he reached Calcutta was paralysed in 1 arm and 2 limbs below the waist numb, he tried commiting sucide etc was horrobly depressed as finiancially they r v strong but this was too much for him as money could not change anything here. now after some homeo treatment, physotheraphy etc is better and in the last 23 yrs has been consulting in various industires and earniong at least 20-30 a mnth. lives alone his mother and brother's family live upstairs. at 4 am some brings him down for the bed and is put back at 4pm in the bed, rest of the time is on a wheel chair uses his left hand for all activities, his PC, home theater r his company and friends , relatives who visit him, nice dynamic self sufficient man. > > MR. GK Sivaraman, > Born on 9-10-56, 11.54 Hrs Palghat > > Prashant > 9840051861 > > auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: Respected Krishnanji, > Thanks for a very detailed analysis. I have been wanting to post a > query reg my atmakarak and amatyakarak and you have given them in > your analysis. I am curious to know this, I usually have a > premonition of sorts, normally I cant sleep the whole night, or feel > uneasy but cant place my finger on, feel very depressed to the point > that I find sorrow pressing my heart to the extent i feel like > crying my heart out, before something bad happens or has been > averted.I have noticed it is always when it is something negative > and not otherwise.I never know it at that moment but have always > connected it later. But I never did have even a twinge when I had > the accident. > In fact It slipped my memory but you are right, I was hospitalised > during march 1999, and in ICU for 3 days for Tachycardia, which is > sudden increased heart beats, palpitations for which no reason has > been attributed. From then on my health has taken a turn for worse > and steadily nose dived since 2002. Can it be astrologically > explained why none of my health problems have been fully diagnosed > and are always inconclusive? thereby making correct medication/ help > unavailable. > Regards > Nalini > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nalini ji, > > Earlier too I had gone through your Chart and various > astrological perspectives that come out with reference to that scary > incident in life all of a sudden(in an occult manner) have now been > taken as base for analysis > > Interestingly planets Sun ,Venus and Mars in your chart are > placed from 10 degrees of mars to the highest 22.25 degrees of > saturn,the atmakarak with Venus as amatyakarak.The rest of the > planets like debilitated mercury(lagna lord) in 10th.moon in > uttarabhadra ruled by saturn and saturn lord of 8th and 9th houses > in ketu's moola nakshtra are all between 2.10 tojupiter's6.24 > degrees. > > certainly extreemities in life leading to several perversions > can be attributable to the drastic changes in the out look of > life.order of dasas of these planets from saturn to Ketu and venus > at 39 years of life making way for a different kind of > spirtualism.This can be understood from:I dont know why pleasure and > pain takes a while to penetrate, mostly pain," as true > > > > Secondly,Exalted mars in 8th associated with 5th and 12th lords > Venus, though indicative of problems in health particularly harmonal > at the commencement of dasa in 1999 caused a totally different out > look in life after 39years of birth.During the period of ve-su- mo in > Nov2002 to ve-su-ma in Dec2002,20th,operation of badahaka houses and > marak lords evidently denote of ghastly happenings. > > jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th in 7th with saturn in > kendra.from moon sign of meena.placement of lord in 10th aspecting > lagna,11th and 3rd though improves these bhavas association of > saturn,8th and 9th lords takes away glitter and makes way for changed > (gloomy) outlookIf Venus represents lord dharma and moksha > bhavas,jupiter as lord of kama bhava along with artha bhava of 10th > sign > > Venus(dasalord) in own house in lagan with jupiter in navamsa > indicates deva guru and daitya guru coming together in an earthy > sign of taurus where moon gets exalted has to be indicative of the > changes in outlook of life also.when you mean"pleasure for me is > when my whole body is energised when I listen to the Divine Mother's > name or see her." > > Airy nature of gemini leads to intellect as mercury rules the > sign but then manah karak moon in jupiter sign and watery in nature > imbibes values leading to vikara.Affliction of not only moon (dara > karak) but jupiter associated with atmakarak.Difficulties(if painful) > and pleasure(if happines)have little influence as rulers of these > elements never indicated any difference in various life stages.may > be the appreciative gesture indicated in Arjun pandit's > elobartions,by you could be understood and analysed.otherwise dasa > of venus(lord of 5th representing for poorva janma)and bhagya lord > saturn with a contradictory planet also in patal are all together > giving different tunings to life. > > Krishnan > > with regards > > > > auromirra19 <nalini2818@> wrote: > > Respected krishnan ji, > > NO. I was already suffering but not realised that I was and took > it > > in my stride, my health had already started to deteriorate. It > takes > > a lot to make me suffer as I am sort of insulated.I dont know why > > pleasure and pain takes a while to penetrate, mostly pain, as true > > pleasure for me is when my whole body is energised when I listen > to > > the Divine Mother's name or see her.I feel energy shooting up to > the > > head. Now coming to the time of happening I recollect it was May > 14 > > or 15 2002. I was at Chennai. The next day the divisional office > of > > our Bank burnt down.I was once known for excellent memory and now > I > > am not sure of such important details. But after that event I > > declined drastically healthwise, career wise. People even > suggested > > the spot i fell down could have been cursed/haunted. > > But all I could think of was how I was saved. > > My asc is gemini, venus , Mars in Capricorn, Sun in Aquarius,Moon, > > ketu and mercury in pisces, rahu in virgo, Saturn and jupiter in > > Sagittarius.28-02-1960,14.42hrs, Chennai > > Iam now running venus mahadasa. > > > > As you said could have been indication of things to come? Can you > > throw some light? > > > > > > Regards > > Nalini > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear nalini ji, > > > This episode was really a turning point irrespective of good > and > > bad that came out of dasa lords and in operation.when you say:"in > > fact that was the beginning of the four years of suffering"a > > signal/a caution that has been given in gochara for taking care of > > issues which normall we forget to realise. > > > Infact with reference to time of happening and relation to the > > natal chart is worth finding out the case than containing as of > > destiny theory.may be when days move smoothly and the psalm of > life > > has only melody we have little concern for future? > > > krishnan > > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote: > > > Dear Nalini, > > > > > > What a scary experience that must have been! > > > > > > I am glad that you were protected. Many are not that lucky. > > > > > > , "auromirra19" > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, I remember a line which I used to put up on the message > > board > > > > at my bank branch, "You are in the danger of getting runover > > even > > > if > > > > you are on the right track and dont move", This has always > made > > me > > > > constantly reinvent myself, ( thoough I have grumbled and > > > > complained).I would also like to share with you a true life > > > > threatning situation. It was miracle I was not run over > > literally > > > > leave alone left rear-ended. At an intersection, I got down > from > > > my > > > > car to walk to my work and in the hurry my pallu got into the > > > door. > > > > My driver and my husband took off. I was dragged a > considerable > > > > distance in the road, my bag, my mobile and me thrown in > > > different > > > > directions.It was literally then that everything had stopped > in > > > > time. It was bang in front of a busstop, and a very busy road > at > > > > 9.30 in the morning, infact it was the main signal at Marina > > Beach > > > > at Chennai. The policeman saw it a started a hue and cry and > > > > signalled to my car and in the meanwhile there was a single > auto > > > on > > > > the road, and a lady was in it she got down helped me get up,( > > my > > > > saree got torn and that was how i became free).My car came > back > > > and > > > > I got into it went to a doctor. Nothing happened to me. not > even > > a > > > > scratch. AS i was going back I noticed the crammed traffic. I > > have > > > > always wondered how it could be so, other days I had to get > down > > > and > > > > hurry up as there was always a bus to rear-end me. > > > > It was truly revealing, in fact that was the beginning of the > > four > > > > years of suffering I mentioned in my earlier post.I was > > afflicted > > > > with a mysterious disease not diagnosed and lot followed > through > > > and > > > > it has now left me with two lungs severely damaged, feet and > > arms > > > > swollen, acutely diabetic,with hypothyroidism, on high potency > > > > steroids, financially unsettled, no career and in an alien > land. > > > > But I am learning to cope and reinvent myself and have not > given > > > up. > > > > It is interactions with learned gurus like yourself, pandit > > Arjun > > > > garu, krishnan garu which gives me the much needed thrust to > > take > > > > off. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > -- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you failed to fill up, the chances of your being in a > > headon > > > > > collision are very little (unless you are driving in the > wrong > > > > lane) > > > > > however you do risk being rear-ended! And in that situation > it > > > is > > > > > generally the fault of the driver in the rear vehicle, hence > > no > > > > > karma for you (insurance premium rising or police fining > you) - > > - > > > > as > > > > > long as you do not suffer a whiplash or other back injury ;-) > > > > > > > > > > , "auromirra19" > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Poojya Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely Fantastic!! I am spell bound.As usual I have in > > my > > > > long > > > > > > winding way done it, yes it is true, How can Divine grace > be > > a > > > > > step, > > > > > > it is a life line. Truly amazing, but then I have always > > been > > > a > > > > > > lousy driver, no wonder met with somany accidents and > > > frequently > > > > > > must have forgotten to fill up, and in a hurry got into > the > > > top > > > > > gear > > > > > > before going through the gamut. Thanks a lot, that is what > I > > > am > > > > > > doing now , unlearnt what I have and started learning > afresh > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > is so revealing. I have now started learning literally, > > HUman > > > > > > Resources Management at 46 years, and also at life's > school > > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > teaching me lessons in humility, tolerance patience and > what > > > > not. > > > > > > God there is so much to learn, and I wish to cram as much > as > > > > > > possible within this lifetime. As Mother rightly said, the > > day > > > > you > > > > > > feel you have done enough and learnt enough, that is the > day > > > you > > > > > > start growing old. Now I realise, why I have never been > able > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > satisfied/happy with what I had materially, in my career > and > > > > > always > > > > > > hankered after that elusive something.I always wondered > when > > I > > > > > heard > > > > > > happy laughter ring out how could people be so happy? What > I > > > am > > > > > > after is something which is substantial in not being so > and > > > all > > > > I > > > > > > have gone through is but a way of reaching it.As usual you > > > > > have,sir, > > > > > > in your inimitable analytical, with deep insight, > succinctly > > > > > > conevyed the meaning. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "rohiniranjan" > > > <rrgb@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Open gate, > > > > > > > sit down > > > > > > > turn ignition > > > > > > > look around > > > > > > > press clutch pedal > > > > > > > put car in first gear > > > > > > > drive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those are steps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Will/Grace is the petrol/gasoline. It cannot be a > > step > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "auromirra19" > > > > > > > <nalini2818@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > POojya RRji, Krishnanji and Rishiji, > > > > > > > > Please permit me to add something. All the five steps > > take > > > a > > > > > lot > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > conviction and self will to execute, but would they be > > of > > > > any > > > > > > > avail > > > > > > > > if there is no sixth step, Divine Will/Grace? > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself of always defining my goals > > > (one > > > > at > > > > > > > atime) > > > > > > > > and go about them with utmost sincerity and > enthusiasm, > > > and > > > > > have > > > > > > > > managed to get only some of them achieved.Some did not > > > even > > > > > > merit > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > headstart? When the input was equal the end result > > varied > > > so > > > > > > > > drastically.Can we conclude that ultimately it is the > > > > Almighty > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > decides the result, or is it that even the Grace is > > tardy > > > in > > > > > > > arrving > > > > > > > > when u run one of your dashas? As it was true in my > case > > > > when > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > through the four years of acute suffering no tangible > > help > > > > was > > > > > > > > forthcoming. there is only now a glimmer of light that > > too > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > far end.How can we explain this? Predestined karma is > > what > > > > > makes > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > breaks humans?and is reflected in one's charts? please > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , rishi shukla > > > > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RRji, > > > > > > > > > And factually relating, astrology is directly related > > > > > > > > > to human behavior and its quirks. > > > > > > > > > I concur fully with what you have said, but > > > > > > > > > allow me to grumble... > > > > > > > > > "Step one: Define hope > > > > > > > > > Step two: Define goal/immediate goal > > > > > > > > > Step three: Find what it takes to get there from > > > > > > > > > 'here' > > > > > > > > > Step four: Define 'here' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is not a mistake that step three comes before > > > > > > > > > step four! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step five: Do it" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one was able to do all of it, then one would not > > > > > > > > > seek or need divination of any form. > > > > > > > > > Then,its but human nature that one seeks short cuts. > > > > > > > > > Ordinary mortals, afterall. Even knowledge that > > > > > > > > > confirms that there are minimal chances of a sudden > > > > > > > > > surge of awareness does not bely hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Rohini Ji, > > > > > > > > > > It is since long to see you make a right note.I > > > > > > > > > > only make addition as Astrology is an > understandable > > > > > > > > > > communication(not a gesture!) > > > > > > > > > > True it's Value and the additions that the > subject > > > > > > > > > > makes to humanity makes it devine too.So your > steps: > > > > > > > > > > "Step one: Define hope > > > > > > > > > > Step two: Define goal/immediate goal > > > > > > > > > > Step three: Find what it takes to get there from > > > > > > > > > > 'here' > > > > > > > > > > Step four: Define 'here' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is not a mistake that step three comes > before > > > > > > > > > > step four! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step five: Do it" > > > > > > > > > > All can be implemented only with faith and belief > > > > > > > > > > and ofcourse certainly sincerity of purpose. > > > > > > > > > > I do not really mind to exploit Psychocology to > > > > > > > > > > convince and amke the subject understandable to one > > > > > > > > > > and all to solve life imposed riddles.Be it > sanskara > > > > > > > > > > or be it eat to live. > > > > > > > > > > Let's hope millions(both haves and have nots) do > > > > > > > > > > look at the vastness world only to explore in his > > > > > > > > > > own way and comprehend to make living a positive > > > > > > > > > > approach > > > > > > > > > > otherwise Iam afraid:"it is not a mistake that > > > > > > > > > > step three comes before step four!"we will not be > > > > > > > > > > there as here is too complicated to define > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The more I see, my two cents for what they are > > > > > > > > > > worth, effective > > > > > > > > > > astrology boils down to communication. Both the > > > > > > > > > > astrologer and the > > > > > > > > > > nativity must make an effort to communicate and to > > > > > > > > > > be good at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This cannot be done in a one shot, manner that most > > > > > > > > > > of us web- > > > > > > > > > > dwellers have gotten used to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence the dissatisfaction, the frustrations and > > > > > > > > > > fights that prevail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has an eerie resemblance to > > > > > > > > > > psychoanalysis/psychotherapy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, at least in the western scene of > > > > > > > > > > things, a lot of > > > > > > > > > > psychologists (amateur and otherwise) got attracted > > > > > > > > > > to astrology and > > > > > > > > > > actually made a lot of progress for themselves and > > > > > > > > > > for their craft. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "tell me now, without mincing words and move > on" > > > > > > > > > > mentality that > > > > > > > > > > we see from time to time, is more suited to > > > > > > > > > > situations where > > > > > > > > > > information and knowledge received more *directly* > > > > > > > > > > than astrology > > > > > > > > > > was ever intended to deliver is perhpas sought -- > in > > > > > > > > > > the wrong forum > > > > > > > > > > perhaps! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like much of worldly reality, unless I am sadly > > > > > > > > > > mistaken as some may > > > > > > > > > > believe or insist <!>, astrology is not about > > > > > > > > > > magical revelations > > > > > > > > > > and deliverances that happen overnight, remedially > > > > > > > > > > speaking or > > > > > > > > > > astrologically for that matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of us are looking for that magical panacea that > > > > > > > > > > would transform > > > > > > > > > > our current state of misery into beautitude, bliss > > > > > > > > > > and instant self- > > > > > > > > > > realization! Just look at the size of world's > > > > > > > > > > population and count > > > > > > > > > > the really self-realized ones over the centuries > > > > > > > > > > that most of us > > > > > > > > > > feel were truly REALIZED. Do the math! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean that there is no hope for the rest > of > > > > > > > > > > us billions and > > > > > > > > > > billions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step one: Define hope > > > > > > > > > > Step two: Define goal/immediate goal > > > > > > > > > > Step three: Find what it takes to get there from > > > > > > > > > > 'here' > > > > > > > > > > Step four: Define 'here' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is not a mistake that step three comes > before > > > > > > > > > > step four! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step five: Do it!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Love! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > Prashant Prashant Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? 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