Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Dear all, Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth to a child at an appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation after deciding on the auspicious time and date. How valid is this procedure in predicting the horoscope of the concerned native in this respect. Is it valid?? With regards Sunitha , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd> wrote: > > Dear members, > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe child birth have been > uploaded in the file section of ; > > lalkitabremedies/ > > With naman to all gurujan > > Varun Trivedi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi Sunitha THE POINT U raised is naive and self trumpeting people/astrologers claims. never happens this way Our life being KARMA DRIVEN, karma means all actions -good, bad of past lives w.r.t birth] and life in gen. Nothing in life happens unless destined at that moment, we can only `interpret the moment, nature, event' can't change anything. we can oly moderate results or soften the adverse effects on themental plane and move on with direction, fortitude, balance and keep rest open to natural courses. Sage Ramana Maharishi once said "not a leaf moves without destiny, nothing in nature moves on its own it is predestined even this sermon" we can say it is an assisted or a surgically intervened biorth clearly nothhing else , it is a false claim. I have said this to many one best example was to my 2nd sister I had given her 2 ranges of time to choose from if given a chance by the doctor, conditions as she asked me to [told her same lines as above] the doctor too asked what time u will like to deliver previous nite and on the way to OT as well she had the slip in her hand never told the doctor. I said 4-4.5 am or 11.10 am -.12.20 pm the boy was born at 9.30 so if she had a chocie her mind even whenthe doc asked did not take it-so not destined for her 1st child I had given even b4 the pregnancy was confirmed she will have a `girl' inMithuna Lagna, Aridra star on Aug 10th/11th AFTER 3 days preganncy was confirmed, on Aug 9th too for the last pre delivery check the doc said baby is not ready so another 10 days later but next night she had labor and admited on 9th night at 9pm the girl wa born on 10th at 3.34 am, Aridra started at 3.31 am I guess this answers ur question, it had to happen it idid no intervention here by anyone. I can't say it is a good prediction, I will call it a good interpration of the event. Prashant js_sunitha <js_sunitha wrote: Dear all, Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth to a child at an appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation after deciding on the auspicious time and date. How valid is this procedure in predicting the horoscope of the concerned native in this respect. Is it valid?? With regards Sunitha , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd> wrote: > > Dear members, > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe child birth have been > uploaded in the file section of ; > > lalkitabremedies/ > > With naman to all gurujan > > Varun Trivedi > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology Visit your group "" on the web. Prashant Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Dear Prashant Kumar ji, Why shouldn't a mother give her child the best possible start if she can? By giving birth at an auspicous time she is trying to do what every mother would want to do , give her child a good start. It is destiny again that she is consulting astrologers about the best time for her child birth. If it were not destined , she wouldn't be consulting the astrologers. With naman to all gurujan. Varun Trivedi , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar> wrote: > > Hi Sunitha > > THE POINT U raised is naive and self trumpeting people/astrologers claims. never happens this way > > Our life being KARMA DRIVEN, karma means all actions -good, bad of past lives w.r.t birth] and life in gen. > > Nothing in life happens unless destined at that moment, we can only `interpret the moment, nature, event' can't change anything. > we can oly moderate results or soften the adverse effects on themental plane and move on with direction, fortitude, balance and keep rest open to natural courses. > > Sage Ramana Maharishi once said "not a leaf moves without destiny, nothing in nature moves on its own it is predestined even this sermon" > > we can say it is an assisted or a surgically intervened biorth clearly nothhing else , it is a false claim. > > I have said this to many one best example was to my 2nd sister I had given her 2 ranges of time to choose from if given a chance by the doctor, conditions as she asked me to [told her same lines as above] > the doctor too asked what time u will like to deliver previous nite and on the way to OT as well she had the slip in her hand never told the doctor. > I said 4-4.5 am or 11.10 am -.12.20 pm > > the boy was born at 9.30 so if she had a chocie her mind even whenthe doc asked did not take it-so not destined > > for her 1st child I had given even b4 the pregnancy was confirmed she will have a `girl' inMithuna Lagna, Aridra star on Aug 10th/11th > AFTER 3 days preganncy was confirmed, on Aug 9th too for the last pre delivery check the doc said baby is not ready so another 10 days later > but next night she had labor and admited on 9th night at 9pm > the girl wa born on 10th at 3.34 am, Aridra started at 3.31 am > > I guess this answers ur question, it had to happen it idid no intervention here by anyone. > I can't say it is a good prediction, I will call it a good interpration of the event. > > Prashant > > > > js_sunitha <js_sunitha> wrote: Dear all, > > Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth to a child at an > appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation after deciding on the > auspicious time and date. How valid is this procedure in predicting > the horoscope of the concerned native in this respect. Is it valid?? > > With regards > Sunitha > > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd> wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe child birth have been > > uploaded in the file section of ; > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > With naman to all gurujan > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Prashant > > > Bring words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Dear Prashant, A native is destind to reap the outcome of his karmas of the previous Janma and the Karma of this Janma. Both has a say on what the native will be offered by HIS ALLMIGHTY. It is also said that till the age of twelve a child's destiny depends upon the Karmas of his parents. So why can't the engineering the birth time can have an effect on the destiny. Saveinsofar, whether it should be done or not is mootable topic and everyone may have a different opinion on it, but I am only trying to address to the situation whether or not it will have an effect on the fate. Best Regards, Akhil Jain --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > Hi Sunitha > > THE POINT U raised is naive and self trumpeting > people/astrologers claims. never happens this way > > Our life being KARMA DRIVEN, karma means all > actions -good, bad of past lives w.r.t birth] and > life in gen. > > Nothing in life happens unless destined at that > moment, we can only `interpret the moment, nature, > event' can't change anything. > we can oly moderate results or soften the adverse > effects on themental plane and move on with > direction, fortitude, balance and keep rest open to > natural courses. > > Sage Ramana Maharishi once said "not a leaf moves > without destiny, nothing in nature moves on its own > it is predestined even this sermon" > > we can say it is an assisted or a surgically > intervened biorth clearly nothhing else , it is a > false claim. > > I have said this to many one best example was to > my 2nd sister I had given her 2 ranges of time to > choose from if given a chance by the doctor, > conditions as she asked me to [told her same lines > as above] > the doctor too asked what time u will like to > deliver previous nite and on the way to OT as well > she had the slip in her hand never told the doctor. > I said 4-4.5 am or 11.10 am -.12.20 pm > > the boy was born at 9.30 so if she had a chocie > her mind even whenthe doc asked did not take it-so > not destined > > for her 1st child I had given even b4 the > pregnancy was confirmed she will have a `girl' > inMithuna Lagna, Aridra star on Aug 10th/11th > AFTER 3 days preganncy was confirmed, on Aug 9th > too for the last pre delivery check the doc said > baby is not ready so another 10 days later > but next night she had labor and admited on 9th > night at 9pm > the girl wa born on 10th at 3.34 am, Aridra > started at 3.31 am > > I guess this answers ur question, it had to happen > it idid no intervention here by anyone. > I can't say it is a good prediction, I will call > it a good interpration of the event. > > Prashant > > > > js_sunitha <js_sunitha wrote: > Dear all, > > Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth > to a child at an > appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation > after deciding on the > auspicious time and date. How valid is this > procedure in predicting > the horoscope of the concerned native in this > respect. Is it valid?? > > With regards > Sunitha > > > , > "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd> wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe > child birth have been > > uploaded in the file section of ; > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > With naman to all gurujan > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology > Vedic astrology > Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Prashant > > > Bring words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Sri Gurubhyah namaha Dear akhil jain If that could be done it defeats the law of karma. Further, if right & acute penance is done for the identified dosha, it is possible that God can pave way for such engineering of birth time, as a result for the hard efforts. Learned Members may please comment further. Satguru Paahimam ajpastro On 1/27/06, akhil jain <robby_jn wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > A native is destind to reap the outcome of his karmas > of the previous Janma and the Karma of this Janma. > Both has a say on what the native will be offered by > HIS ALLMIGHTY. > > It is also said that till the age of twelve a child's > destiny depends upon the Karmas of his parents. So why > can't the engineering the birth time can have an > effect on the destiny. Saveinsofar, whether it should > be done or not is mootable topic and everyone may have > a different opinion on it, but I am only trying to > address to the situation whether or not it will have > an effect on the fate. > > Best Regards, > > Akhil Jain > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > Hi Sunitha > > > > THE POINT U raised is naive and self trumpeting > > people/astrologers claims. never happens this way > > > > Our life being KARMA DRIVEN, karma means all > > actions -good, bad of past lives w.r.t birth] and > > life in gen. > > > > Nothing in life happens unless destined at that > > moment, we can only `interpret the moment, nature, > > event' can't change anything. > > we can oly moderate results or soften the adverse > > effects on themental plane and move on with > > direction, fortitude, balance and keep rest open to > > natural courses. > > > > Sage Ramana Maharishi once said "not a leaf moves > > without destiny, nothing in nature moves on its own > > it is predestined even this sermon" > > > > we can say it is an assisted or a surgically > > intervened biorth clearly nothhing else , it is a > > false claim. > > > > I have said this to many one best example was to > > my 2nd sister I had given her 2 ranges of time to > > choose from if given a chance by the doctor, > > conditions as she asked me to [told her same lines > > as above] > > the doctor too asked what time u will like to > > deliver previous nite and on the way to OT as well > > she had the slip in her hand never told the doctor. > > I said 4-4.5 am or 11.10 am -.12.20 pm > > > > the boy was born at 9.30 so if she had a chocie > > her mind even whenthe doc asked did not take it-so > > not destined > > > > for her 1st child I had given even b4 the > > pregnancy was confirmed she will have a `girl' > > inMithuna Lagna, Aridra star on Aug 10th/11th > > AFTER 3 days preganncy was confirmed, on Aug 9th > > too for the last pre delivery check the doc said > > baby is not ready so another 10 days later > > but next night she had labor and admited on 9th > > night at 9pm > > the girl wa born on 10th at 3.34 am, Aridra > > started at 3.31 am > > > > I guess this answers ur question, it had to happen > > it idid no intervention here by anyone. > > I can't say it is a good prediction, I will call > > it a good interpration of the event. > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > js_sunitha <js_sunitha wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth > > to a child at an > > appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation > > after deciding on the > > auspicious time and date. How valid is this > > procedure in predicting > > the horoscope of the concerned native in this > > respect. Is it valid?? > > > > With regards > > Sunitha > > > > > > , > > "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe > > child birth have been > > > uploaded in the file section of ; > > > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology > > Vedic astrology > > Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Bring words and photos together (easily) with > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Dear Sir, It is in my opinion, the exact time of a child birth is -when couple have intercourse the sperm meets the egg that is the time of a child birth. Millions of sperm run towards the eggs and only one in a million meets the egg ! It is the nature's destiny !Each egg and sperm carries the DNA and other related characteristics donated by parents.A child is born get's its hereditary chrs like genetic dis orders or what ever the parent's give-this I call it as KARMA given by parents to the child.There is no other way a child can get these chrs. With Horoscope writing becoming simpler by using computer it is possible to chart the horoscope of that child in the womb.Now you can get the sex of the child in the womb,get its genetic map and horoscope with the technology. The destiny is so organised it decides who should be born in whose womb etc.If you apply this theory and check on the date and time of conceivement which is possible with latest pregnecy test devices one must be able to come with answers through the horoscope when exactly the child will be born! This is a LITMUS TEST for astrology! I do not agree on the fate of child changing by altering the natural birth by caesarian birth. If you can throw some light on this with the knowledge of astrology and science there is a great scope for Astrology as pure science. May God bless you all Hosakere s Shivaswamy A J Purushothama Iyer <ajpjyotish wrote: Sri Gurubhyah namaha Dear akhil jain If that could be done it defeats the law of karma. Further, if right & acute penance is done for the identified dosha, it is possible that God can pave way for such engineering of birth time, as a result for the hard efforts. Learned Members may please comment further. Satguru Paahimam ajpastro On 1/27/06, akhil jain <robby_jn wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > A native is destind to reap the outcome of his karmas > of the previous Janma and the Karma of this Janma. > Both has a say on what the native will be offered by > HIS ALLMIGHTY. > > It is also said that till the age of twelve a child's > destiny depends upon the Karmas of his parents. So why > can't the engineering the birth time can have an > effect on the destiny. Saveinsofar, whether it should > be done or not is mootable topic and everyone may have > a different opinion on it, but I am only trying to > address to the situation whether or not it will have > an effect on the fate. > > Best Regards, > > Akhil Jain > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > Hi Sunitha > > > > THE POINT U raised is naive and self trumpeting > > people/astrologers claims. never happens this way > > > > Our life being KARMA DRIVEN, karma means all > > actions -good, bad of past lives w.r.t birth] and > > life in gen. > > > > Nothing in life happens unless destined at that > > moment, we can only `interpret the moment, nature, > > event' can't change anything. > > we can oly moderate results or soften the adverse > > effects on themental plane and move on with > > direction, fortitude, balance and keep rest open to > > natural courses. > > > > Sage Ramana Maharishi once said "not a leaf moves > > without destiny, nothing in nature moves on its own > > it is predestined even this sermon" > > > > we can say it is an assisted or a surgically > > intervened biorth clearly nothhing else , it is a > > false claim. > > > > I have said this to many one best example was to > > my 2nd sister I had given her 2 ranges of time to > > choose from if given a chance by the doctor, > > conditions as she asked me to [told her same lines > > as above] > > the doctor too asked what time u will like to > > deliver previous nite and on the way to OT as well > > she had the slip in her hand never told the doctor. > > I said 4-4.5 am or 11.10 am -.12.20 pm > > > > the boy was born at 9.30 so if she had a chocie > > her mind even whenthe doc asked did not take it-so > > not destined > > > > for her 1st child I had given even b4 the > > pregnancy was confirmed she will have a `girl' > > inMithuna Lagna, Aridra star on Aug 10th/11th > > AFTER 3 days preganncy was confirmed, on Aug 9th > > too for the last pre delivery check the doc said > > baby is not ready so another 10 days later > > but next night she had labor and admited on 9th > > night at 9pm > > the girl wa born on 10th at 3.34 am, Aridra > > started at 3.31 am > > > > I guess this answers ur question, it had to happen > > it idid no intervention here by anyone. > > I can't say it is a good prediction, I will call > > it a good interpration of the event. > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > js_sunitha <js_sunitha wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Nowadays I hear that some people try to give birth > > to a child at an > > appropriate time by having a ceasarian operation > > after deciding on the > > auspicious time and date. How valid is this > > procedure in predicting > > the horoscope of the concerned native in this > > respect. Is it valid?? > > > > With regards > > Sunitha > > > > > > , > > "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Very effective and useful remedies for safe > > child birth have been > > > uploaded in the file section of ; > > > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology > > Vedic astrology > > Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Bring words and photos together (easily) with > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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mark_luthor Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I wonder why many astrologers offer remedies if destiny cannot be changed. Many say wear this do this and the event wont happen. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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