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dear ashutoshji and krishnanji

 

these days many budding as well as seasoned astrologers in various

groups are quoting liberally that sun in 1st house is bad, moon in

4th house is bad, jupiter in 5th house is bad, venus in 7th house is

bad, so on, and are also citing various classics. some astrologers

are blindly sermonising that a karak in own house naturally destroys

that house. in my two decades experience and research i found no or

little truth in this and contrary to this written myth, i found most

of the charts i read where the karak in his own house doing good.

 

what is your opinion on this karak spoiling his own house.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh> wrote:

>

> Dear Rajesh,

>

> This is what happens when one starts learning

jyotish directly from books and takes one's own horoscope as the

basic chart for study purposes. It is the natual process but very

harmfull.

>

> You will not have any further problems concerning seventh

house. Rest assured. As I say very often, "Not everything written in

books is always practically applicable". The horoscope is always

seen as a whole, not by individual planets.

>

> With time you will learn more and when you will see the

really seventh-house related problems in other's horoscopes, you

will start noticing the beneifts of your venus-mer in seventh.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group,

but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

>

>

> -

> cornholiosbhungolios

>

> Sunday, 08 January, 2006 11:58

> Re: FW: Help needed

>

>

> Dear Asutosh,

> Thankx a lot for the reply. I would follow the remedies you

have

> given and then give you feedback after six months. I myself have

> attended the art of living course and appreciate it a lot.

Looking at

> re-attending the course again. Being a employee in a private

form.

> The pay check is the only source of income. After mercury dasha

> started I got attracted to stock market and have made a good

money

> out of it but my last 10 - 12 trades have been all rows of

losses. I

> started with learning technical analysis and later on aquired

> sophesticated softwares and got books. The market ticker running

all

> day in my room. Its only when I wanted to buy house I moved all

the

> money out of the market to fund for house. Re-entry in the

market

> after this put me out of sync.

>

> I want to clarify that in my chart the 7th house has venus.

Venus as

> the significator of the spouse in the 7th is suppose to be

> detrimental for marriage. There's a principle give by parsara

> saying "Bhavato karako nashtam"(significator destroys the

> significations of the house it signifies if it occupies it). The

7th

> house has a papa kartari yoga by being hemmed by malefics sun

and

> ketu on either side. Presence of mars(vakri graha) in the

seventh

> which is quite strong here, in one way it can be said that it is

> protecting its own house. Three planets in the 7th. mercury the

12th

> lord in the 7th. Are these indicating something bad for my

marriage?

> In Adolf Hitler and Princess Diana's chart too venus was in the

7th.

> Not forgetting to mention that I have had one engagement once

and

> later it broke up just a month before marriage. Now living

happily

> and want to live happily for life with my present spouse. The

> indications shown in my chart related to the sevent house are

> becoming a cause for concern when I astrologically see them. Can

you

> please comment on this?

> regards

> Rajesh Vaswani

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > Sorry for this delayed reply.

> >

> > Congratulations for your sister's marrige, in advance.

It

> is also comforting to knoe that your wife and sister are going

along

> well after the Art of Living course. I wonder why you yourself

did

> not attend that course. It would have been helpfull to aleviate

> stress.

> >

> > Amethyst is a sunstitute for Neelam. It is usually

worn

> taking more than double the weight of regular neelam for half

the

> effects.

> >

> > I would recommend a white sapphire and an emerald to

you.

> The sapphire should be in silver ring and worn on ring finger.

The

> emerald is worn on little finger in gold ring.

> >

> > The mercury dasha is good for you. You can start some

> business, own enterprise, etc in this dasha. But, speculative

> business like stock-trading is not advised in your case. The

> transition of jupiter from virgo to libra must have brought the

stock

> market related losses for you.

> >

> > For you only a slow and steady income is favorable.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Vaswani, Rajesh

> >

> > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 14:51

> > RE: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Asutosh,

> > First of all Sorry for addressing the query to you and

> arjun ji inspite of posting in a group. After your last reading

I

> have brought a flat by taking a home loan. The flat is under

> construction and will be getting it in this year april.

Thereafter I

> am planning to rent it out. You had mentioned in your last

reading

> that in the second week of september I will be constructing a

house.

> I found a suitable match for my younger sister and the marriage

has

> been fixed to the 19th of next month. Domestic family life has

been

> back to normal. Also in your previous reading you had mentioned

that

> I will travel abroad in Aug last week. But I had a local travel

to

> north india during that time. My Domestic family life was being

> disturbed because of my sister not getting along with my wife.

You

> has asked my sisters date of birth (3rd November 1982, 1:10 PM,

> Bangalore) and had given below reply.

> >

> > "Your sister is mangalik and the aspect of saturn also on

seventh

> house increases the maleficience of her seventh house. Choose a

> mangalik boy for her. Her nature is full of extremes with

volatile

> temper on one end and total sacrifice on the other.

> >

> > A combust venus has been creating problems for her.

She

> has problems expressing her true emotions. I see a natural delay

in

> her marriage. The failure this month was a blessing in disguise

> because it nullified the second marriage yoga in her chart. You

will

> get a chance again in january 2006 to get her married, after

that the

> mariage will be possible only in november 2010. Get the

horoscopes

> matched by competent astrologers before agreeing to any proposal.

> >

> > The married life will be peaceful. A boy who does

not

> live in a joint family due to his professional compulsions will

be

> suitable for her. A career in the NGO sector, especially

education

> sector will suit her. She will gain fame due to her social

services

> and her works for humanity, especially for women.

> >

> > Even though she has differences with your wife, her

> marriage will happen due to an active role of your wife. After

> marriage her relations with your wife will improve

significantly. "

> >

> > She is getting married to a boy in chile who happens to be

my

> friend. She will be staying with the boy after marriage in chile

> itself. Last month I had send both my wife and sister for art of

> living course and there is a good amount of getting along after

the

> course.

> >

> > As of now I Have been lacking mental peace. There are

worries

> resulting due to debt, lack of concentration in studies, stock

market

> losses. I would like to know if any remedies would help me out

at

> this stage to give me mental peace. Any stones/gems can be

suggested?

> I wear a Amythiest right now.

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > []On Behalf Of

> astrologerashutosh

> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:17 PM

> >

> > Re: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > Just like it happened a few months ago, I

did

> not intially respond to your mail because it had been directly

> addressed to me and Arjun Ji. Now, your query is open to the

group I

> am feeling free to take it up.

> >

> > In your mails in august'05, you were worried about

> selling and buying house. I had also advised you to get your

younger

> sister married as soon as possible. I would be glad to get the

> feedback on the solutions provided then.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Vaswani, Rajesh

> >

> > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 10:18

> > FW: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > Just to correct, my baby is 10 months not 10

years :).

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> >

> >

> > []On Behalf Of

Vaswani,

> Rajesh

> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:47 AM

> >

> > FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > I am mailing again to make my mail get noticed. If I

can

> be suggested remedies for improving my present situation. I will

be

> greatful.

> >

> > Birth Details

> > Date 31/05/1977

> > Time 16:30

> > Place : Bangalore

> >

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:09 AM

> > > ''

> > > FW: Help needed

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am posting this message for the third time to

get

> some response. Respected group members can you please help me

out.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 4:17 PM

> > > ''

> > > FW: Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am posting my message again. Please help me out.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:19 AM

> > > ''

> > > Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am an software enginneer by profession, working

for

> an MNC. Married and have a 10 year old baby. Have been lacking

mental

> peace from since february. There are worries resulting due to

house

> tensions, debts (This is after jupiter my sixth lord entered

tula),

> expenses, some small losses in the stock market. The debt was

> incurred since I took an new apartment in september, looks like

gurus

> transit made me take a home loan. I had to borrow some amount

for the

> downpayment, I have already repaid this half. I am doing my

final

> year of M.C.A correspondance now and am not able to study or

> concentrate on studies due to the wavering mind. Right now I

wear an

> amythiest on my left hand ring finger since I came to know that

the

> amythiest calms the mind. Looking for foreign opportunities in

near

> term but as of now nothing seems to work out. Being the only son

I

> have a huge inheritance from my father but it looks like I will

lose

> my inheritance because his brother who is the bu!

> > siness !

> > partner seems to have bad intentions. I would like to know

if

> any remedies would help me out at this stage to give me mental

peace.

> Any stones/gems can be suggested? Kindly help.

> > >

> > > Birth Details

> > > Date : 31/05/1977

> > > Time : 16:30

> > > Place : Bangalore

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> >

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Dear Sir,

These words of wisdom if found to be incorrect,it may be that research factors

and the wisemen contexts were not similar

Karkako bhava nasha ha:karak in own housenaturally destroys that house

Rules have meaning as they r made with intent.Exceptions too have been made

through PAC factors.

 

(If)Karak in his own house doing good,it is to be seen through Ahtaka varga

bindus how many bindus the bhava and house signify.

what is very important activation of the bahva at specific time through

gochara is the most relevant to consider.If yogakarak planet is influencing for

that sign it will naturally do good.But then how in navmas that particular bhava

is inflated by malefics/benifics and nakshtra lords.

For all of us Astrology is no simple subject unlike today's generations as

good happening is due to dasa/time.where as bad is only due to bhava/house?It

can not be like that.Principally Astrology is sound.Present research and context

may prove otherwise.basic principles hold good at any time.where as

generalisation for universality may not be so.

regards

krishnan

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

dear ashutoshji and krishnanji

 

these days many budding as well as seasoned astrologers in various

groups are quoting liberally that sun in 1st house is bad, moon in

4th house is bad, jupiter in 5th house is bad, venus in 7th house is

bad, so on, and are also citing various classics. some astrologers

are blindly sermonising that a karak in own house naturally destroys

that house. in my two decades experience and research i found no or

little truth in this and contrary to this written myth, i found most

of the charts i read where the karak in his own house doing good.

 

what is your opinion on this karak spoiling his own house.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh> wrote:

>

> Dear Rajesh,

>

> This is what happens when one starts learning

jyotish directly from books and takes one's own horoscope as the

basic chart for study purposes. It is the natual process but very

harmfull.

>

> You will not have any further problems concerning seventh

house. Rest assured. As I say very often, "Not everything written in

books is always practically applicable". The horoscope is always

seen as a whole, not by individual planets.

>

> With time you will learn more and when you will see the

really seventh-house related problems in other's horoscopes, you

will start noticing the beneifts of your venus-mer in seventh.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group,

but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

>

>

> -

> cornholiosbhungolios

>

> Sunday, 08 January, 2006 11:58

> Re: FW: Help needed

>

>

> Dear Asutosh,

> Thankx a lot for the reply. I would follow the remedies you

have

> given and then give you feedback after six months. I myself have

> attended the art of living course and appreciate it a lot.

Looking at

> re-attending the course again. Being a employee in a private

form.

> The pay check is the only source of income. After mercury dasha

> started I got attracted to stock market and have made a good

money

> out of it but my last 10 - 12 trades have been all rows of

losses. I

> started with learning technical analysis and later on aquired

> sophesticated softwares and got books. The market ticker running

all

> day in my room. Its only when I wanted to buy house I moved all

the

> money out of the market to fund for house. Re-entry in the

market

> after this put me out of sync.

>

> I want to clarify that in my chart the 7th house has venus.

Venus as

> the significator of the spouse in the 7th is suppose to be

> detrimental for marriage. There's a principle give by parsara

> saying "Bhavato karako nashtam"(significator destroys the

> significations of the house it signifies if it occupies it). The

7th

> house has a papa kartari yoga by being hemmed by malefics sun

and

> ketu on either side. Presence of mars(vakri graha) in the

seventh

> which is quite strong here, in one way it can be said that it is

> protecting its own house. Three planets in the 7th. mercury the

12th

> lord in the 7th. Are these indicating something bad for my

marriage?

> In Adolf Hitler and Princess Diana's chart too venus was in the

7th.

> Not forgetting to mention that I have had one engagement once

and

> later it broke up just a month before marriage. Now living

happily

> and want to live happily for life with my present spouse. The

> indications shown in my chart related to the sevent house are

> becoming a cause for concern when I astrologically see them. Can

you

> please comment on this?

> regards

> Rajesh Vaswani

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > Sorry for this delayed reply.

> >

> > Congratulations for your sister's marrige, in advance.

It

> is also comforting to knoe that your wife and sister are going

along

> well after the Art of Living course. I wonder why you yourself

did

> not attend that course. It would have been helpfull to aleviate

> stress.

> >

> > Amethyst is a sunstitute for Neelam. It is usually

worn

> taking more than double the weight of regular neelam for half

the

> effects.

> >

> > I would recommend a white sapphire and an emerald to

you.

> The sapphire should be in silver ring and worn on ring finger.

The

> emerald is worn on little finger in gold ring.

> >

> > The mercury dasha is good for you. You can start some

> business, own enterprise, etc in this dasha. But, speculative

> business like stock-trading is not advised in your case. The

> transition of jupiter from virgo to libra must have brought the

stock

> market related losses for you.

> >

> > For you only a slow and steady income is favorable.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Vaswani, Rajesh

> >

> > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 14:51

> > RE: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Asutosh,

> > First of all Sorry for addressing the query to you and

> arjun ji inspite of posting in a group. After your last reading

I

> have brought a flat by taking a home loan. The flat is under

> construction and will be getting it in this year april.

Thereafter I

> am planning to rent it out. You had mentioned in your last

reading

> that in the second week of september I will be constructing a

house.

> I found a suitable match for my younger sister and the marriage

has

> been fixed to the 19th of next month. Domestic family life has

been

> back to normal. Also in your previous reading you had mentioned

that

> I will travel abroad in Aug last week. But I had a local travel

to

> north india during that time. My Domestic family life was being

> disturbed because of my sister not getting along with my wife.

You

> has asked my sisters date of birth (3rd November 1982, 1:10 PM,

> Bangalore) and had given below reply.

> >

> > "Your sister is mangalik and the aspect of saturn also on

seventh

> house increases the maleficience of her seventh house. Choose a

> mangalik boy for her. Her nature is full of extremes with

volatile

> temper on one end and total sacrifice on the other.

> >

> > A combust venus has been creating problems for her.

She

> has problems expressing her true emotions. I see a natural delay

in

> her marriage. The failure this month was a blessing in disguise

> because it nullified the second marriage yoga in her chart. You

will

> get a chance again in january 2006 to get her married, after

that the

> mariage will be possible only in november 2010. Get the

horoscopes

> matched by competent astrologers before agreeing to any proposal.

> >

> > The married life will be peaceful. A boy who does

not

> live in a joint family due to his professional compulsions will

be

> suitable for her. A career in the NGO sector, especially

education

> sector will suit her. She will gain fame due to her social

services

> and her works for humanity, especially for women.

> >

> > Even though she has differences with your wife, her

> marriage will happen due to an active role of your wife. After

> marriage her relations with your wife will improve

significantly. "

> >

> > She is getting married to a boy in chile who happens to be

my

> friend. She will be staying with the boy after marriage in chile

> itself. Last month I had send both my wife and sister for art of

> living course and there is a good amount of getting along after

the

> course.

> >

> > As of now I Have been lacking mental peace. There are

worries

> resulting due to debt, lack of concentration in studies, stock

market

> losses. I would like to know if any remedies would help me out

at

> this stage to give me mental peace. Any stones/gems can be

suggested?

> I wear a Amythiest right now.

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > []On Behalf Of

> astrologerashutosh

> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:17 PM

> >

> > Re: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > Just like it happened a few months ago, I

did

> not intially respond to your mail because it had been directly

> addressed to me and Arjun Ji. Now, your query is open to the

group I

> am feeling free to take it up.

> >

> > In your mails in august'05, you were worried about

> selling and buying house. I had also advised you to get your

younger

> sister married as soon as possible. I would be glad to get the

> feedback on the solutions provided then.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Vaswani, Rajesh

> >

> > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 10:18

> > FW: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > Just to correct, my baby is 10 months not 10

years :).

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> >

> >

> > []On Behalf Of

Vaswani,

> Rajesh

> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:47 AM

> >

> > FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > I am mailing again to make my mail get noticed. If I

can

> be suggested remedies for improving my present situation. I will

be

> greatful.

> >

> > Birth Details

> > Date 31/05/1977

> > Time 16:30

> > Place : Bangalore

> >

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:09 AM

> > > ''

> > > FW: Help needed

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am posting this message for the third time to

get

> some response. Respected group members can you please help me

out.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 4:17 PM

> > > ''

> > > FW: Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am posting my message again. Please help me out.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:19 AM

> > > ''

> > > Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am an software enginneer by profession, working

for

> an MNC. Married and have a 10 year old baby. Have been lacking

mental

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house

> tensions, debts (This is after jupiter my sixth lord entered

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> have a huge inheritance from my father but it looks like I will

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> > siness !

> > partner seems to have bad intentions. I would like to know

if

> any remedies would help me out at this stage to give me mental

peace.

> Any stones/gems can be suggested? Kindly help.

> > >

> > > Birth Details

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dear krishnan garu

 

as you rigtly said bindus, aspects, navamsha, gochara and other

balas etc. have also to be reckoned for assessing the strength and

results of a karak. but you are saying "this quote is a rule but

has some excpetions". it implies that an astrologer shall first

feel that a karak placed in the same house shall destroy(naash) that

house and then look for any cancellation of his spoilsport.

 

my observation is that a karak placed in his own house shall not be

termed as destroyer of that bhava in the first place by that

mythical quote "karako bhava nasha". my query is how can a karak

destroy his own house. i may be sounding questioning the rudiments

but how can a significator and benefactor of a house destroys it by

being in that house. no way, it is illogical. if it is so, how can

a planet in his own sign is termed benefic. be it the sign or house

both represent characteristics and dispositions.

 

could you kindly throw some more light on how a karak is supposed to

destroy his house in the first place. any reasoning and reference

would be appreciated.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> These words of wisdom if found to be incorrect,it may be that

research factors and the wisemen contexts were not similar

> Karkako bhava nasha ha:karak in own housenaturally destroys that

house

> Rules have meaning as they r made with intent.Exceptions too

have been made through PAC factors.

>

> (If)Karak in his own house doing good,it is to be seen through

Ahtaka varga bindus how many bindus the bhava and house signify.

> what is very important activation of the bahva at specific time

through gochara is the most relevant to consider.If yogakarak planet

is influencing for that sign it will naturally do good.But then how

in navmas that particular bhava is inflated by malefics/benifics and

nakshtra lords.

> For all of us Astrology is no simple subject unlike today's

generations as good happening is due to dasa/time.where as bad is

only due to bhava/house?It can not be like that.Principally

Astrology is sound.Present research and context may prove

otherwise.basic principles hold good at any time.where as

generalisation for universality may not be so.

> regards

> krishnan

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:

> dear ashutoshji and krishnanji

>

> these days many budding as well as seasoned astrologers in various

> groups are quoting liberally that sun in 1st house is bad, moon in

> 4th house is bad, jupiter in 5th house is bad, venus in 7th house

is

> bad, so on, and are also citing various classics. some astrologers

> are blindly sermonising that a karak in own house naturally

destroys

> that house. in my two decades experience and research i found no

or

> little truth in this and contrary to this written myth, i found

most

> of the charts i read where the karak in his own house doing good.

>

> what is your opinion on this karak spoiling his own house.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > This is what happens when one starts

learning

> jyotish directly from books and takes one's own horoscope as the

> basic chart for study purposes. It is the natual process but very

> harmfull.

> >

> > You will not have any further problems concerning

seventh

> house. Rest assured. As I say very often, "Not everything written

in

> books is always practically applicable". The horoscope is always

> seen as a whole, not by individual planets.

> >

> > With time you will learn more and when you will see the

> really seventh-house related problems in other's horoscopes, you

> will start noticing the beneifts of your venus-mer in seventh.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> > -

> > cornholiosbhungolios

> >

> > Sunday, 08 January, 2006 11:58

> > Re: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Asutosh,

> > Thankx a lot for the reply. I would follow the remedies

you

> have

> > given and then give you feedback after six months. I myself

have

> > attended the art of living course and appreciate it a lot.

> Looking at

> > re-attending the course again. Being a employee in a private

> form.

> > The pay check is the only source of income. After mercury

dasha

> > started I got attracted to stock market and have made a good

> money

> > out of it but my last 10 - 12 trades have been all rows of

> losses. I

> > started with learning technical analysis and later on aquired

> > sophesticated softwares and got books. The market ticker

running

> all

> > day in my room. Its only when I wanted to buy house I moved

all

> the

> > money out of the market to fund for house. Re-entry in the

> market

> > after this put me out of sync.

> >

> > I want to clarify that in my chart the 7th house has venus.

> Venus as

> > the significator of the spouse in the 7th is suppose to be

> > detrimental for marriage. There's a principle give by parsara

> > saying "Bhavato karako nashtam"(significator destroys the

> > significations of the house it signifies if it occupies it).

The

> 7th

> > house has a papa kartari yoga by being hemmed by malefics sun

> and

> > ketu on either side. Presence of mars(vakri graha) in the

> seventh

> > which is quite strong here, in one way it can be said that it

is

> > protecting its own house. Three planets in the 7th. mercury

the

> 12th

> > lord in the 7th. Are these indicating something bad for my

> marriage?

> > In Adolf Hitler and Princess Diana's chart too venus was in

the

> 7th.

> > Not forgetting to mention that I have had one engagement once

> and

> > later it broke up just a month before marriage. Now living

> happily

> > and want to live happily for life with my present spouse. The

> > indications shown in my chart related to the sevent house are

> > becoming a cause for concern when I astrologically see them.

Can

> you

> > please comment on this?

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> > , "astrologerashutosh"

> > <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Sorry for this delayed reply.

> > >

> > > Congratulations for your sister's marrige, in

advance.

> It

> > is also comforting to knoe that your wife and sister are going

> along

> > well after the Art of Living course. I wonder why you yourself

> did

> > not attend that course. It would have been helpfull to

aleviate

> > stress.

> > >

> > > Amethyst is a sunstitute for Neelam. It is usually

> worn

> > taking more than double the weight of regular neelam for half

> the

> > effects.

> > >

> > > I would recommend a white sapphire and an emerald to

> you.

> > The sapphire should be in silver ring and worn on ring finger.

> The

> > emerald is worn on little finger in gold ring.

> > >

> > > The mercury dasha is good for you. You can start

some

> > business, own enterprise, etc in this dasha. But, speculative

> > business like stock-trading is not advised in your case. The

> > transition of jupiter from virgo to libra must have brought

the

> stock

> > market related losses for you.

> > >

> > > For you only a slow and steady income is favorable.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 14:51

> > > RE: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Asutosh,

> > > First of all Sorry for addressing the query to you

and

> > arjun ji inspite of posting in a group. After your last

reading

> I

> > have brought a flat by taking a home loan. The flat is under

> > construction and will be getting it in this year april.

> Thereafter I

> > am planning to rent it out. You had mentioned in your last

> reading

> > that in the second week of september I will be constructing a

> house.

> > I found a suitable match for my younger sister and the

marriage

> has

> > been fixed to the 19th of next month. Domestic family life has

> been

> > back to normal. Also in your previous reading you had

mentioned

> that

> > I will travel abroad in Aug last week. But I had a local

travel

> to

> > north india during that time. My Domestic family life was

being

> > disturbed because of my sister not getting along with my wife.

> You

> > has asked my sisters date of birth (3rd November 1982, 1:10

PM,

> > Bangalore) and had given below reply.

> > >

> > > "Your sister is mangalik and the aspect of saturn also on

> seventh

> > house increases the maleficience of her seventh house. Choose

a

> > mangalik boy for her. Her nature is full of extremes with

> volatile

> > temper on one end and total sacrifice on the other.

> > >

> > > A combust venus has been creating problems for

her.

> She

> > has problems expressing her true emotions. I see a natural

delay

> in

> > her marriage. The failure this month was a blessing in

disguise

> > because it nullified the second marriage yoga in her chart.

You

> will

> > get a chance again in january 2006 to get her married, after

> that the

> > mariage will be possible only in november 2010. Get the

> horoscopes

> > matched by competent astrologers before agreeing to any

proposal.

> > >

> > > The married life will be peaceful. A boy who does

> not

> > live in a joint family due to his professional compulsions

will

> be

> > suitable for her. A career in the NGO sector, especially

> education

> > sector will suit her. She will gain fame due to her social

> services

> > and her works for humanity, especially for women.

> > >

> > > Even though she has differences with your wife,

her

> > marriage will happen due to an active role of your wife. After

> > marriage her relations with your wife will improve

> significantly. "

> > >

> > > She is getting married to a boy in chile who happens to be

> my

> > friend. She will be staying with the boy after marriage in

chile

> > itself. Last month I had send both my wife and sister for art

of

> > living course and there is a good amount of getting along

after

> the

> > course.

> > >

> > > As of now I Have been lacking mental peace. There are

> worries

> > resulting due to debt, lack of concentration in studies, stock

> market

> > losses. I would like to know if any remedies would help me out

> at

> > this stage to give me mental peace. Any stones/gems can be

> suggested?

> > I wear a Amythiest right now.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > []On Behalf Of

> > astrologerashutosh

> > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:17 PM

> > >

> > > Re: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Just like it happened a few months ago,

I

> did

> > not intially respond to your mail because it had been directly

> > addressed to me and Arjun Ji. Now, your query is open to the

> group I

> > am feeling free to take it up.

> > >

> > > In your mails in august'05, you were worried about

> > selling and buying house. I had also advised you to get your

> younger

> > sister married as soon as possible. I would be glad to get the

> > feedback on the solutions provided then.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

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> group,

> > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > >

> > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 10:18

> > > FW: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > Just to correct, my baby is 10 months not 10

> years :).

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > []On Behalf Of

> Vaswani,

> > Rajesh

> > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:47 AM

> > >

> > > FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am mailing again to make my mail get noticed. If

I

> can

> > be suggested remedies for improving my present situation. I

will

> be

> > greatful.

> > >

> > > Birth Details

> > > Date 31/05/1977

> > > Time 16:30

> > > Place : Bangalore

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:09 AM

> > > > ''

> > > > FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am posting this message for the third time to

> get

> > some response. Respected group members can you please help me

> out.

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Friday, December 30, 2005 4:17 PM

> > > > ''

> > > > FW: Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am posting my message again. Please help me

out.

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:19 AM

> > > > ''

> > > > Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

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> mental

> > peace from since february. There are worries resulting due to

> house

> > tensions, debts (This is after jupiter my sixth lord entered

> tula),

> > expenses, some small losses in the stock market. The debt was

> > incurred since I took an new apartment in september, looks

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> gurus

> > transit made me take a home loan. I had to borrow some amount

> for the

> > downpayment, I have already repaid this half. I am doing my

> final

> > year of M.C.A correspondance now and am not able to study or

> > concentrate on studies due to the wavering mind. Right now I

> wear an

> > amythiest on my left hand ring finger since I came to know

that

> the

> > amythiest calms the mind. Looking for foreign opportunities in

> near

> > term but as of now nothing seems to work out. Being the only

son

> I

> > have a huge inheritance from my father but it looks like I

will

> lose

> > my inheritance because his brother who is the bu!

> > > siness !

> > > partner seems to have bad intentions. I would like to

know

> if

> > any remedies would help me out at this stage to give me mental

> peace.

> > Any stones/gems can be suggested? Kindly help.

> > > >

> > > > Birth Details

> > > > Date : 31/05/1977

> > > > Time : 16:30

> > > > Place : Bangalore

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards

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Dear Arjunji,

Though you have addressed the question to krishnanji and asutoshji. "how a

karak is supposed to

destroy his house in the first place?" I would like to share something on this.

I have read and learnt from books only. In the BPHS it says that for analysing

for instance the 7th house. We look at the House, house lord and the

significator venus. Since the significator is superimposed in the house it

signifies. Any malefic effect on the 7th house become more severe since it

causes weakness by effecting the house and the significator at one time. This

means if there is any affliction it will get magnified.

regards

Rajesh Vaswani

 

 

 

[]On Behalf Of panditarjun2004

Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:43 PM

 

Re: FW: Help needed (for ashuthoshji and krishnanji)

 

 

dear krishnan garu

 

as you rigtly said bindus, aspects, navamsha, gochara and other

balas etc. have also to be reckoned for assessing the strength and

results of a karak. but you are saying "this quote is a rule but

has some excpetions". it implies that an astrologer shall first

feel that a karak placed in the same house shall destroy(naash) that

house and then look for any cancellation of his spoilsport.

 

my observation is that a karak placed in his own house shall not be

termed as destroyer of that bhava in the first place by that

mythical quote "karako bhava nasha". my query is how can a karak

destroy his own house. i may be sounding questioning the rudiments

but how can a significator and benefactor of a house destroys it by

being in that house. no way, it is illogical. if it is so, how can

a planet in his own sign is termed benefic. be it the sign or house

both represent characteristics and dispositions.

 

could you kindly throw some more light on how a karak is supposed to

destroy his house in the first place. any reasoning and reference

would be appreciated.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> These words of wisdom if found to be incorrect,it may be that

research factors and the wisemen contexts were not similar

> Karkako bhava nasha ha:karak in own housenaturally destroys that

house

> Rules have meaning as they r made with intent.Exceptions too

have been made through PAC factors.

>

> (If)Karak in his own house doing good,it is to be seen through

Ahtaka varga bindus how many bindus the bhava and house signify.

> what is very important activation of the bahva at specific time

through gochara is the most relevant to consider.If yogakarak planet

is influencing for that sign it will naturally do good.But then how

in navmas that particular bhava is inflated by malefics/benifics and

nakshtra lords.

> For all of us Astrology is no simple subject unlike today's

generations as good happening is due to dasa/time.where as bad is

only due to bhava/house?It can not be like that.Principally

Astrology is sound.Present research and context may prove

otherwise.basic principles hold good at any time.where as

generalisation for universality may not be so.

> regards

> krishnan

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:

> dear ashutoshji and krishnanji

>

> these days many budding as well as seasoned astrologers in various

> groups are quoting liberally that sun in 1st house is bad, moon in

> 4th house is bad, jupiter in 5th house is bad, venus in 7th house

is

> bad, so on, and are also citing various classics. some astrologers

> are blindly sermonising that a karak in own house naturally

destroys

> that house. in my two decades experience and research i found no

or

> little truth in this and contrary to this written myth, i found

most

> of the charts i read where the karak in his own house doing good.

>

> what is your opinion on this karak spoiling his own house.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajesh,

> >

> > This is what happens when one starts

learning

> jyotish directly from books and takes one's own horoscope as the

> basic chart for study purposes. It is the natual process but very

> harmfull.

> >

> > You will not have any further problems concerning

seventh

> house. Rest assured. As I say very often, "Not everything written

in

> books is always practically applicable". The horoscope is always

> seen as a whole, not by individual planets.

> >

> > With time you will learn more and when you will see the

> really seventh-house related problems in other's horoscopes, you

> will start noticing the beneifts of your venus-mer in seventh.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

group,

> but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> >

> >

> > -

> > cornholiosbhungolios

> >

> > Sunday, 08 January, 2006 11:58

> > Re: FW: Help needed

> >

> >

> > Dear Asutosh,

> > Thankx a lot for the reply. I would follow the remedies

you

> have

> > given and then give you feedback after six months. I myself

have

> > attended the art of living course and appreciate it a lot.

> Looking at

> > re-attending the course again. Being a employee in a private

> form.

> > The pay check is the only source of income. After mercury

dasha

> > started I got attracted to stock market and have made a good

> money

> > out of it but my last 10 - 12 trades have been all rows of

> losses. I

> > started with learning technical analysis and later on aquired

> > sophesticated softwares and got books. The market ticker

running

> all

> > day in my room. Its only when I wanted to buy house I moved

all

> the

> > money out of the market to fund for house. Re-entry in the

> market

> > after this put me out of sync.

> >

> > I want to clarify that in my chart the 7th house has venus.

> Venus as

> > the significator of the spouse in the 7th is suppose to be

> > detrimental for marriage. There's a principle give by parsara

> > saying "Bhavato karako nashtam"(significator destroys the

> > significations of the house it signifies if it occupies it).

The

> 7th

> > house has a papa kartari yoga by being hemmed by malefics sun

> and

> > ketu on either side. Presence of mars(vakri graha) in the

> seventh

> > which is quite strong here, in one way it can be said that it

is

> > protecting its own house. Three planets in the 7th. mercury

the

> 12th

> > lord in the 7th. Are these indicating something bad for my

> marriage?

> > In Adolf Hitler and Princess Diana's chart too venus was in

the

> 7th.

> > Not forgetting to mention that I have had one engagement once

> and

> > later it broke up just a month before marriage. Now living

> happily

> > and want to live happily for life with my present spouse. The

> > indications shown in my chart related to the sevent house are

> > becoming a cause for concern when I astrologically see them.

Can

> you

> > please comment on this?

> > regards

> > Rajesh Vaswani

> > , "astrologerashutosh"

> > <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Sorry for this delayed reply.

> > >

> > > Congratulations for your sister's marrige, in

advance.

> It

> > is also comforting to knoe that your wife and sister are going

> along

> > well after the Art of Living course. I wonder why you yourself

> did

> > not attend that course. It would have been helpfull to

aleviate

> > stress.

> > >

> > > Amethyst is a sunstitute for Neelam. It is usually

> worn

> > taking more than double the weight of regular neelam for half

> the

> > effects.

> > >

> > > I would recommend a white sapphire and an emerald to

> you.

> > The sapphire should be in silver ring and worn on ring finger.

> The

> > emerald is worn on little finger in gold ring.

> > >

> > > The mercury dasha is good for you. You can start

some

> > business, own enterprise, etc in this dasha. But, speculative

> > business like stock-trading is not advised in your case. The

> > transition of jupiter from virgo to libra must have brought

the

> stock

> > market related losses for you.

> > >

> > > For you only a slow and steady income is favorable.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

> group,

> > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > >

> > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 14:51

> > > RE: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Asutosh,

> > > First of all Sorry for addressing the query to you

and

> > arjun ji inspite of posting in a group. After your last

reading

> I

> > have brought a flat by taking a home loan. The flat is under

> > construction and will be getting it in this year april.

> Thereafter I

> > am planning to rent it out. You had mentioned in your last

> reading

> > that in the second week of september I will be constructing a

> house.

> > I found a suitable match for my younger sister and the

marriage

> has

> > been fixed to the 19th of next month. Domestic family life has

> been

> > back to normal. Also in your previous reading you had

mentioned

> that

> > I will travel abroad in Aug last week. But I had a local

travel

> to

> > north india during that time. My Domestic family life was

being

> > disturbed because of my sister not getting along with my wife.

> You

> > has asked my sisters date of birth (3rd November 1982, 1:10

PM,

> > Bangalore) and had given below reply.

> > >

> > > "Your sister is mangalik and the aspect of saturn also on

> seventh

> > house increases the maleficience of her seventh house. Choose

a

> > mangalik boy for her. Her nature is full of extremes with

> volatile

> > temper on one end and total sacrifice on the other.

> > >

> > > A combust venus has been creating problems for

her.

> She

> > has problems expressing her true emotions. I see a natural

delay

> in

> > her marriage. The failure this month was a blessing in

disguise

> > because it nullified the second marriage yoga in her chart.

You

> will

> > get a chance again in january 2006 to get her married, after

> that the

> > mariage will be possible only in november 2010. Get the

> horoscopes

> > matched by competent astrologers before agreeing to any

proposal.

> > >

> > > The married life will be peaceful. A boy who does

> not

> > live in a joint family due to his professional compulsions

will

> be

> > suitable for her. A career in the NGO sector, especially

> education

> > sector will suit her. She will gain fame due to her social

> services

> > and her works for humanity, especially for women.

> > >

> > > Even though she has differences with your wife,

her

> > marriage will happen due to an active role of your wife. After

> > marriage her relations with your wife will improve

> significantly. "

> > >

> > > She is getting married to a boy in chile who happens to be

> my

> > friend. She will be staying with the boy after marriage in

chile

> > itself. Last month I had send both my wife and sister for art

of

> > living course and there is a good amount of getting along

after

> the

> > course.

> > >

> > > As of now I Have been lacking mental peace. There are

> worries

> > resulting due to debt, lack of concentration in studies, stock

> market

> > losses. I would like to know if any remedies would help me out

> at

> > this stage to give me mental peace. Any stones/gems can be

> suggested?

> > I wear a Amythiest right now.

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > []On Behalf Of

> > astrologerashutosh

> > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:17 PM

> > >

> > > Re: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Just like it happened a few months ago,

I

> did

> > not intially respond to your mail because it had been directly

> > addressed to me and Arjun Ji. Now, your query is open to the

> group I

> > am feeling free to take it up.

> > >

> > > In your mails in august'05, you were worried about

> > selling and buying house. I had also advised you to get your

> younger

> > sister married as soon as possible. I would be glad to get the

> > feedback on the solutions provided then.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

> group,

> > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > >

> > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 10:18

> > > FW: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > Just to correct, my baby is 10 months not 10

> years :).

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > []On Behalf Of

> Vaswani,

> > Rajesh

> > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:47 AM

> > >

> > > FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am mailing again to make my mail get noticed. If

I

> can

> > be suggested remedies for improving my present situation. I

will

> be

> > greatful.

> > >

> > > Birth Details

> > > Date 31/05/1977

> > > Time 16:30

> > > Place : Bangalore

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:09 AM

> > > > ''

> > > > FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am posting this message for the third time to

> get

> > some response. Respected group members can you please help me

> out.

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Friday, December 30, 2005 4:17 PM

> > > > ''

> > > > FW: Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am posting my message again. Please help me

out.

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:19 AM

> > > > ''

> > > > Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am an software enginneer by profession,

working

> for

> > an MNC. Married and have a 10 year old baby. Have been lacking

> mental

> > peace from since february. There are worries resulting due to

> house

> > tensions, debts (This is after jupiter my sixth lord entered

> tula),

> > expenses, some small losses in the stock market. The debt was

> > incurred since I took an new apartment in september, looks

like

> gurus

> > transit made me take a home loan. I had to borrow some amount

> for the

> > downpayment, I have already repaid this half. I am doing my

> final

> > year of M.C.A correspondance now and am not able to study or

> > concentrate on studies due to the wavering mind. Right now I

> wear an

> > amythiest on my left hand ring finger since I came to know

that

> the

> > amythiest calms the mind. Looking for foreign opportunities in

> near

> > term but as of now nothing seems to work out. Being the only

son

> I

> > have a huge inheritance from my father but it looks like I

will

> lose

> > my inheritance because his brother who is the bu!

> > > siness !

> > > partner seems to have bad intentions. I would like to

know

> if

> > any remedies would help me out at this stage to give me mental

> peace.

> > Any stones/gems can be suggested? Kindly help.

> > > >

> > > > Birth Details

> > > > Date : 31/05/1977

> > > > Time : 16:30

> > > > Place : Bangalore

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

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Dear Friends,

In bhavrtha ratnakara distinction is made between on the karka of bhava and

lord of the bahva,Various bahve thus

are;Thanu(Sun),Dhana(jupiter),Bhatru(Mars),Matru(Moon),Putra(jupiter),satru(satu\

rn),kalatra(venus),ayur(saturn),Pitru(sun),karma(jupiter),labha(jupiter) and

vyaya(saturn)

For a bhava we have also bhva karaka apart from bhavadhi pati and planets

particularly benifics strengthening the bahava..If bahava karaka is in 12th from

the Acendant is fortunate as per chapter VIII stanza 6(p121).

These implications are understandable as the principles of jyotish involve

shadbalas also.

where as if karak happens to be in the bahva itself this does not augur well

'coz,the planets sthana bala at it's lowest.Exception however saturn,jupiter and

luminaries.Aspects in jyotish play a immense role for the bahva to be strong or

get afflicted.

The principles of jyotish need holistic approach and not in isolation.Basic

approach of jyotish is to bring balance in life.only astrology alone can make

meaning of life.otherwise we can not make a shrp distinction between benific and

malefic houses.

krishnan

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

, "Vaswani, Rajesh"

<rajesh.vaswani@l...> wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunji,

> Though you have addressed the question to krishnanji and

asutoshji. "how a karak is supposed to

> destroy his house in the first place?" I would like to share

something on this. I have read and learnt from books only. In the

BPHS it says that for analysing for instance the 7th house. We look

at the House, house lord and the significator venus. Since the

significator is superimposed in the house it signifies. Any malefic

effect on the 7th house become more severe since it causes weakness

by effecting the house and the significator at one time. This means

if there is any affliction it will get magnified.

> regards

> Rajesh Vaswani

>

>

>

> []On Behalf Of

panditarjun2004

> Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:43 PM

>

> Re: FW: Help needed (for ashuthoshji and krishnanji)

>

>

> dear krishnan garu

>

> as you rigtly said bindus, aspects, navamsha, gochara and other

> balas etc. have also to be reckoned for assessing the strength and

> results of a karak. but you are saying "this quote is a rule but

> has some excpetions". it implies that an astrologer shall first

> feel that a karak placed in the same house shall destroy(naash)

that

> house and then look for any cancellation of his spoilsport.

>

> my observation is that a karak placed in his own house shall not

be

> termed as destroyer of that bhava in the first place by that

> mythical quote "karako bhava nasha". my query is how can a karak

> destroy his own house. i may be sounding questioning the

rudiments

> but how can a significator and benefactor of a house destroys it

by

> being in that house. no way, it is illogical. if it is so, how

can

> a planet in his own sign is termed benefic. be it the sign or

house

> both represent characteristics and dispositions.

>

> could you kindly throw some more light on how a karak is supposed

to

> destroy his house in the first place. any reasoning and reference

> would be appreciated.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > These words of wisdom if found to be incorrect,it may be that

> research factors and the wisemen contexts were not similar

> > Karkako bhava nasha ha:karak in own housenaturally destroys

that

> house

> > Rules have meaning as they r made with intent.Exceptions too

> have been made through PAC factors.

> >

> > (If)Karak in his own house doing good,it is to be seen through

> Ahtaka varga bindus how many bindus the bhava and house signify.

> > what is very important activation of the bahva at specific

time

> through gochara is the most relevant to consider.If yogakarak

planet

> is influencing for that sign it will naturally do good.But then

how

> in navmas that particular bhava is inflated by malefics/benifics

and

> nakshtra lords.

> > For all of us Astrology is no simple subject unlike today's

> generations as good happening is due to dasa/time.where as bad is

> only due to bhava/house?It can not be like that.Principally

> Astrology is sound.Present research and context may prove

> otherwise.basic principles hold good at any time.where as

> generalisation for universality may not be so.

> > regards

> > krishnan

> >

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:

> > dear ashutoshji and krishnanji

> >

> > these days many budding as well as seasoned astrologers in

various

> > groups are quoting liberally that sun in 1st house is bad, moon

in

> > 4th house is bad, jupiter in 5th house is bad, venus in 7th

house

> is

> > bad, so on, and are also citing various classics. some

astrologers

> > are blindly sermonising that a karak in own house naturally

> destroys

> > that house. in my two decades experience and research i found

no

> or

> > little truth in this and contrary to this written myth, i found

> most

> > of the charts i read where the karak in his own house doing good.

> >

> > what is your opinion on this karak spoiling his own house.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > , "astrologerashutosh"

> > <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > >

> > > This is what happens when one starts

> learning

> > jyotish directly from books and takes one's own horoscope as the

> > basic chart for study purposes. It is the natual process but

very

> > harmfull.

> > >

> > > You will not have any further problems concerning

> seventh

> > house. Rest assured. As I say very often, "Not everything

written

> in

> > books is always practically applicable". The horoscope is always

> > seen as a whole, not by individual planets.

> > >

> > > With time you will learn more and when you will see

the

> > really seventh-house related problems in other's horoscopes, you

> > will start noticing the beneifts of your venus-mer in seventh.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

> group,

> > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > cornholiosbhungolios

> > >

> > > Sunday, 08 January, 2006 11:58

> > > Re: FW: Help needed

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Asutosh,

> > > Thankx a lot for the reply. I would follow the remedies

> you

> > have

> > > given and then give you feedback after six months. I myself

> have

> > > attended the art of living course and appreciate it a lot.

> > Looking at

> > > re-attending the course again. Being a employee in a private

> > form.

> > > The pay check is the only source of income. After mercury

> dasha

> > > started I got attracted to stock market and have made a good

> > money

> > > out of it but my last 10 - 12 trades have been all rows of

> > losses. I

> > > started with learning technical analysis and later on

aquired

> > > sophesticated softwares and got books. The market ticker

> running

> > all

> > > day in my room. Its only when I wanted to buy house I moved

> all

> > the

> > > money out of the market to fund for house. Re-entry in the

> > market

> > > after this put me out of sync.

> > >

> > > I want to clarify that in my chart the 7th house has venus.

> > Venus as

> > > the significator of the spouse in the 7th is suppose to be

> > > detrimental for marriage. There's a principle give by

parsara

> > > saying "Bhavato karako nashtam"(significator destroys the

> > > significations of the house it signifies if it occupies it).

> The

> > 7th

> > > house has a papa kartari yoga by being hemmed by malefics

sun

> > and

> > > ketu on either side. Presence of mars(vakri graha) in the

> > seventh

> > > which is quite strong here, in one way it can be said that

it

> is

> > > protecting its own house. Three planets in the 7th. mercury

> the

> > 12th

> > > lord in the 7th. Are these indicating something bad for my

> > marriage?

> > > In Adolf Hitler and Princess Diana's chart too venus was in

> the

> > 7th.

> > > Not forgetting to mention that I have had one engagement

once

> > and

> > > later it broke up just a month before marriage. Now living

> > happily

> > > and want to live happily for life with my present spouse.

The

> > > indications shown in my chart related to the sevent house

are

> > > becoming a cause for concern when I astrologically see them.

> Can

> > you

> > > please comment on this?

> > > regards

> > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > --- In

, "astrologerashutosh"

> > > <astrologerashutosh> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for this delayed reply.

> > > >

> > > > Congratulations for your sister's marrige, in

> advance.

> > It

> > > is also comforting to knoe that your wife and sister are

going

> > along

> > > well after the Art of Living course. I wonder why you

yourself

> > did

> > > not attend that course. It would have been helpfull to

> aleviate

> > > stress.

> > > >

> > > > Amethyst is a sunstitute for Neelam. It is usually

> > worn

> > > taking more than double the weight of regular neelam for

half

> > the

> > > effects.

> > > >

> > > > I would recommend a white sapphire and an emerald

to

> > you.

> > > The sapphire should be in silver ring and worn on ring

finger.

> > The

> > > emerald is worn on little finger in gold ring.

> > > >

> > > > The mercury dasha is good for you. You can start

> some

> > > business, own enterprise, etc in this dasha. But,

speculative

> > > business like stock-trading is not advised in your case. The

> > > transition of jupiter from virgo to libra must have brought

> the

> > stock

> > > market related losses for you.

> > > >

> > > > For you only a slow and steady income is

favorable.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ashutosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology

> > group,

> > > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 14:51

> > > > RE: FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Asutosh,

> > > > First of all Sorry for addressing the query to you

> and

> > > arjun ji inspite of posting in a group. After your last

> reading

> > I

> > > have brought a flat by taking a home loan. The flat is under

> > > construction and will be getting it in this year april.

> > Thereafter I

> > > am planning to rent it out. You had mentioned in your last

> > reading

> > > that in the second week of september I will be constructing

a

> > house.

> > > I found a suitable match for my younger sister and the

> marriage

> > has

> > > been fixed to the 19th of next month. Domestic family life

has

> > been

> > > back to normal. Also in your previous reading you had

> mentioned

> > that

> > > I will travel abroad in Aug last week. But I had a local

> travel

> > to

> > > north india during that time. My Domestic family life was

> being

> > > disturbed because of my sister not getting along with my

wife.

> > You

> > > has asked my sisters date of birth (3rd November 1982, 1:10

> PM,

> > > Bangalore) and had given below reply.

> > > >

> > > > "Your sister is mangalik and the aspect of saturn also

on

> > seventh

> > > house increases the maleficience of her seventh house.

Choose

> a

> > > mangalik boy for her. Her nature is full of extremes with

> > volatile

> > > temper on one end and total sacrifice on the other.

> > > >

> > > > A combust venus has been creating problems for

> her.

> > She

> > > has problems expressing her true emotions. I see a natural

> delay

> > in

> > > her marriage. The failure this month was a blessing in

> disguise

> > > because it nullified the second marriage yoga in her chart.

> You

> > will

> > > get a chance again in january 2006 to get her married, after

> > that the

> > > mariage will be possible only in november 2010. Get the

> > horoscopes

> > > matched by competent astrologers before agreeing to any

> proposal.

> > > >

> > > > The married life will be peaceful. A boy who

does

> > not

> > > live in a joint family due to his professional compulsions

> will

> > be

> > > suitable for her. A career in the NGO sector, especially

> > education

> > > sector will suit her. She will gain fame due to her social

> > services

> > > and her works for humanity, especially for women.

> > > >

> > > > Even though she has differences with your wife,

> her

> > > marriage will happen due to an active role of your wife.

After

> > > marriage her relations with your wife will improve

> > significantly. "

> > > >

> > > > She is getting married to a boy in chile who happens to

be

> > my

> > > friend. She will be staying with the boy after marriage in

> chile

> > > itself. Last month I had send both my wife and sister for

art

> of

> > > living course and there is a good amount of getting along

> after

> > the

> > > course.

> > > >

> > > > As of now I Have been lacking mental peace. There are

> > worries

> > > resulting due to debt, lack of concentration in studies,

stock

> > market

> > > losses. I would like to know if any remedies would help me

out

> > at

> > > this stage to give me mental peace. Any stones/gems can be

> > suggested?

> > > I wear a Amythiest right now.

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > []On Behalf Of

> > > astrologerashutosh

> > > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:17 PM

> > > >

> > > > Re: FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > >

> > > > Just like it happened a few months

ago,

> I

> > did

> > > not intially respond to your mail because it had been

directly

> > > addressed to me and Arjun Ji. Now, your query is open to the

> > group I

> > > am feeling free to take it up.

> > > >

> > > > In your mails in august'05, you were worried

about

> > > selling and buying house. I had also advised you to get your

> > younger

> > > sister married as soon as possible. I would be glad to get

the

> > > feedback on the solutions provided then.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ashutosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the

astrology

> > group,

> > > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, 05 January, 2006 10:18

> > > > FW: FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > Just to correct, my baby is 10 months not 10

> > years :).

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > []On Behalf Of

> > Vaswani,

> > > Rajesh

> > > > Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:47 AM

> > > >

> > > > FW: Help needed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am mailing again to make my mail get noticed.

If

> I

> > can

> > > be suggested remedies for improving my present situation. I

> will

> > be

> > > greatful.

> > > >

> > > > Birth Details

> > > > Date 31/05/1977

> > > > Time 16:30

> > > > Place : Bangalore

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:09 AM

> > > > > ''

> > > > > FW: Help needed

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > I am posting this message for the third time

to

> > get

> > > some response. Respected group members can you please help

me

> > out.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > > Friday, December 30, 2005 4:17 PM

> > > > > ''

> > > > > FW: Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > I am posting my message again. Please help me

> out.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Rajesh Vaswani

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vaswani, Rajesh

> > > > > Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:19 AM

> > > > > ''

> > > > > Help needed --> Arjun, Asutosh

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > I am an software enginneer by profession,

> working

> > for

> > > an MNC. Married and have a 10 year old baby. Have been

lacking

> > mental

> > > peace from since february. There are worries resulting due

to

> > house

> > > tensions, debts (This is after jupiter my sixth lord entered

> > tula),

> > > expenses, some small losses in the stock market. The debt

was

> > > incurred since I took an new apartment in september, looks

> like

> > gurus

> > > transit made me take a home loan. I had to borrow some

amount

> > for the

> > > downpayment, I have already repaid this half. I am doing my

> > final

> > > year of M.C.A correspondance now and am not able to study or

> > > concentrate on studies due to the wavering mind. Right now I

> > wear an

> > > amythiest on my left hand ring finger since I came to know

> that

> > the

> > > amythiest calms the mind. Looking for foreign opportunities

in

> > near

> > > term but as of now nothing seems to work out. Being the only

> son

> > I

> > > have a huge inheritance from my father but it looks like I

> will

> > lose

> > > my inheritance because his brother who is the bu!

> > > > siness !

> > > > partner seems to have bad intentions. I would like to

> know

> > if

> > > any remedies would help me out at this stage to give me

mental

> > peace.

> > > Any stones/gems can be suggested? Kindly help.

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Details

> > > > > Date : 31/05/1977

> > > > > Time : 16:30

> > > > > Place : Bangalore

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Rajesh Vaswani

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