Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint ...

[Guest guest]

Not trying to change or challenge prevailing opinions, but just a

few thoughts, if I may. Keep or toss, as they say!

 

I would have given the portfolio of common sense (Vyavaharik buddhi)

to mercury without afflictions.

 

Discipline (niyama/sanyam) is from the 2nd house. Fifth is pleasure -

- impulsive ones even. The tenth therefrom governs the balance, for

obvious reasons.

 

Interestingly, the lord of 5th in Marilyn's chart is mars and is

placed in the 8th with jupiter. Doesn't take much imagination to see

the connections in her life as we know them.

 

Both lord of 2nd house (discipline) and mercury (karaka for

commonsense) are placed in the badhakasthana, 11th. I have often

seen and recommended that more stress be given to the planets in

badhaksthana (rather than blaming the lord of said house!) and in

this case more explanations are not warranted. Throw in the

intrinsic karakattwa of sun and it adds even more. The strong libra

saturn aspecting venus in 10th explains without much injection of

imaginative explanations about the role of older men in high places

that helped and defined her role in this lifetime, that of venus

incarnate as some would say.

 

Mercury is weak in bala and is pairing with the Master of confusion -

- rahu and other malefics in some of the relevant and significant

vargas.

 

I will give it rest there, given the post-mortem nature of this

examination.

 

 

RR

 

, "Juliana Swanson"

<omhamsa> wrote:

>

> Dear Tanvir and other members, thank you for welcoming me to this

> respected forum. In my humble opinion you are correct that Venus

can

> be implicated in a case of poor common sense. Venus represents our

> ability to have pleasure and comfort. Venus represents the choices

> we make that will influence whether or not we can create such

> satisfaction and whether we can be content at the sensory level.

One

> example I can think of is in the chart of the twentieth-century

> Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, who was notorious for showing a

lack

> of common sense, espcially in her relationship choices, and she

was

> deeply unhappy, as well: 6/1/1926, 9:30 AM, Los Angeles, CA,

> 34N04'00", 118W15'00", +8.00, DST-0, Lahiri: 20:15 Karka Lagna.

> Though Venus is strong in overall Shadbala, which reflects her

> remarkably sensuous beauty, Venus is very weak in Dig Bala

opposite

> the 4th house; this could signify the star's inability to direct

her

> life toward truly fulfilling activities and thus to find

happiness,

> which could be interpreted as the inability to make good choices,

> i.e., a lack of common sense. Obviously there are many other

things

> to consider that led to the problems with Venus, such as the fact

> that Venus is a temporal malefic and lord of a kamasthana, etc.

>

> Thanks,

> Juliana

>

> , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

> <ultimate@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Can anyone tell me, that lacking in common sense very seriously

> etc. -

> > is that one of the negativities of Venus? I know about Mercury

but

> can

> > Ve be an answer too?

> >

> > I am seriously suspecting this right now. . .

> >

> > Regards

> > Tanvir

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear astrologers,

 

Do not forget the roles of rahu-ketu here. Both of them

take one away from reality in their own different ways.

 

An individual may be very intelligent and showing lot of pragmatism in

daily life, but in certain matters, he may show total lack of common-sense. In

matters of love, almost everyone goes without any common sense. That is why they

call it "falling in love".

 

Venus can be blamed squarely for "falling in love". In other matters

like those related to profession, fame and health, rahu-ketu, especially ketu,

the headless one, have been found to be responsible.

 

Now, something which might pinch the religious ones. Jupiter is the

karak of religion, rituals, traditions, law, etc. None of these have any space

for common sense. A very strong jupiter takes one away from it too.

 

An exalted mercury, causes too much logical analysis of even trivial

situations, again reducing common sense.

 

In short, every planet contributes in its own way.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

rohiniranjan

Monday, 02 January, 2006 09:33

Re: Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint ...

 

 

Not trying to change or challenge prevailing opinions, but just a

few thoughts, if I may. Keep or toss, as they say!

 

I would have given the portfolio of common sense (Vyavaharik buddhi)

to mercury without afflictions.

 

Discipline (niyama/sanyam) is from the 2nd house. Fifth is pleasure -

- impulsive ones even. The tenth therefrom governs the balance, for

obvious reasons.

 

Interestingly, the lord of 5th in Marilyn's chart is mars and is

placed in the 8th with jupiter. Doesn't take much imagination to see

the connections in her life as we know them.

 

Both lord of 2nd house (discipline) and mercury (karaka for

commonsense) are placed in the badhakasthana, 11th. I have often

seen and recommended that more stress be given to the planets in

badhaksthana (rather than blaming the lord of said house!) and in

this case more explanations are not warranted. Throw in the

intrinsic karakattwa of sun and it adds even more. The strong libra

saturn aspecting venus in 10th explains without much injection of

imaginative explanations about the role of older men in high places

that helped and defined her role in this lifetime, that of venus

incarnate as some would say.

 

Mercury is weak in bala and is pairing with the Master of confusion -

- rahu and other malefics in some of the relevant and significant

vargas.

 

I will give it rest there, given the post-mortem nature of this

examination.

 

 

RR

 

, "Juliana Swanson"

<omhamsa> wrote:

>

> Dear Tanvir and other members, thank you for welcoming me to this

> respected forum. In my humble opinion you are correct that Venus

can

> be implicated in a case of poor common sense. Venus represents our

> ability to have pleasure and comfort. Venus represents the choices

> we make that will influence whether or not we can create such

> satisfaction and whether we can be content at the sensory level.

One

> example I can think of is in the chart of the twentieth-century

> Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, who was notorious for showing a

lack

> of common sense, espcially in her relationship choices, and she

was

> deeply unhappy, as well: 6/1/1926, 9:30 AM, Los Angeles, CA,

> 34N04'00", 118W15'00", +8.00, DST-0, Lahiri: 20:15 Karka Lagna.

> Though Venus is strong in overall Shadbala, which reflects her

> remarkably sensuous beauty, Venus is very weak in Dig Bala

opposite

> the 4th house; this could signify the star's inability to direct

her

> life toward truly fulfilling activities and thus to find

happiness,

> which could be interpreted as the inability to make good choices,

> i.e., a lack of common sense. Obviously there are many other

things

> to consider that led to the problems with Venus, such as the fact

> that Venus is a temporal malefic and lord of a kamasthana, etc.

>

> Thanks,

> Juliana

>

> , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

> <ultimate@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Can anyone tell me, that lacking in common sense very seriously

> etc. -

> > is that one of the negativities of Venus? I know about Mercury

but

> can

> > Ve be an answer too?

> >

> > I am seriously suspecting this right now. . .

> >

> > Regards

> > Tanvir

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear sir,

I liked your reasoning.

All planets to grater or lesser extent can cloud reasoning.

Tatvam-Asi

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh> wrote:

>

> Dear astrologers,

>

> Do not forget the roles of rahu-ketu here.

Both of them take one away from reality in their own different ways.

>

> An individual may be very intelligent and showing lot of

pragmatism in daily life, but in certain matters, he may show total

lack of common-sense. In matters of love, almost everyone goes without

any common sense. That is why they call it "falling in love".

>

> Venus can be blamed squarely for "falling in love". In other

matters like those related to profession, fame and health, rahu-ketu,

especially ketu, the headless one, have been found to be responsible.

>

> Now, something which might pinch the religious ones. Jupiter

is the karak of religion, rituals, traditions, law, etc. None of these

have any space for common sense. A very strong jupiter takes one away

from it too.

>

> An exalted mercury, causes too much logical analysis of

even trivial situations, again reducing common sense.

>

> In short, every planet contributes in its own way.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

-

> rohiniranjan

>

> Monday, 02 January, 2006 09:33

> Re: Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint

...

>

>

> Not trying to change or challenge prevailing opinions, but just a

> few thoughts, if I may. Keep or toss, as they say!

>

> I would have given the portfolio of common sense (Vyavaharik

buddhi)

> to mercury without afflictions.

>

> Discipline (niyama/sanyam) is from the 2nd house. Fifth is

pleasure -

> - impulsive ones even. The tenth therefrom governs the balance,

for

> obvious reasons.

>

> Interestingly, the lord of 5th in Marilyn's chart is mars and is

> placed in the 8th with jupiter. Doesn't take much imagination to

see

> the connections in her life as we know them.

>

> Both lord of 2nd house (discipline) and mercury (karaka for

> commonsense) are placed in the badhakasthana, 11th. I have often

> seen and recommended that more stress be given to the planets in

> badhaksthana (rather than blaming the lord of said house!) and in

> this case more explanations are not warranted. Throw in the

> intrinsic karakattwa of sun and it adds even more. The strong

libra

> saturn aspecting venus in 10th explains without much injection of

> imaginative explanations about the role of older men in high

places

> that helped and defined her role in this lifetime, that of venus

> incarnate as some would say.

>

> Mercury is weak in bala and is pairing with the Master of

confusion -

> - rahu and other malefics in some of the relevant and significant

> vargas.

>

> I will give it rest there, given the post-mortem nature of this

> examination.

>

>

> RR

>

> , "Juliana Swanson"

> <omhamsa> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tanvir and other members, thank you for welcoming me to

this

> > respected forum. In my humble opinion you are correct that Venus

> can

> > be implicated in a case of poor common sense. Venus represents

our

> > ability to have pleasure and comfort. Venus represents the

choices

> > we make that will influence whether or not we can create such

> > satisfaction and whether we can be content at the sensory level.

> One

> > example I can think of is in the chart of the twentieth-century

> > Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, who was notorious for showing a

> lack

> > of common sense, espcially in her relationship choices, and she

> was

> > deeply unhappy, as well: 6/1/1926, 9:30 AM, Los Angeles, CA,

> > 34N04'00", 118W15'00", +8.00, DST-0, Lahiri: 20:15 Karka Lagna.

> > Though Venus is strong in overall Shadbala, which reflects her

> > remarkably sensuous beauty, Venus is very weak in Dig Bala

> opposite

> > the 4th house; this could signify the star's inability to direct

> her

> > life toward truly fulfilling activities and thus to find

> happiness,

> > which could be interpreted as the inability to make good

choices,

> > i.e., a lack of common sense. Obviously there are many other

> things

> > to consider that led to the problems with Venus, such as the

fact

> > that Venus is a temporal malefic and lord of a kamasthana, etc.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Juliana

> >

> > , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

> > <ultimate@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me, that lacking in common sense very

seriously

> > etc. -

> > > is that one of the negativities of Venus? I know about Mercury

> but

> > can

> > > Ve be an answer too?

> > >

> > > I am seriously suspecting this right now. . .

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Tanvir

> > >

> >

>

>

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

----------

>

>

> a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> b..

>

>

> c.. Terms of

Service.

>

>

> --

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>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear sir, i found with manychild where the budha is exalted in any place,

particularly in kanya where of hyperactive child. kindly seeintoit

 

om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Dear sir,

I liked your reasoning.

All planets to grater or lesser extent can cloud reasoning.

Tatvam-Asi

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh> wrote:

>

> Dear astrologers,

>

> Do not forget the roles of rahu-ketu here.

Both of them take one away from reality in their own different ways.

>

> An individual may be very intelligent and showing lot of

pragmatism in daily life, but in certain matters, he may show total

lack of common-sense. In matters of love, almost everyone goes without

any common sense. That is why they call it "falling in love".

>

> Venus can be blamed squarely for "falling in love". In other

matters like those related to profession, fame and health, rahu-ketu,

especially ketu, the headless one, have been found to be responsible.

>

> Now, something which might pinch the religious ones. Jupiter

is the karak of religion, rituals, traditions, law, etc. None of these

have any space for common sense. A very strong jupiter takes one away

from it too.

>

> An exalted mercury, causes too much logical analysis of

even trivial situations, again reducing common sense.

>

> In short, every planet contributes in its own way.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

-

> rohiniranjan

>

> Monday, 02 January, 2006 09:33

> Re: Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint

....

>

>

> Not trying to change or challenge prevailing opinions, but just a

> few thoughts, if I may. Keep or toss, as they say!

>

> I would have given the portfolio of common sense (Vyavaharik

buddhi)

> to mercury without afflictions.

>

> Discipline (niyama/sanyam) is from the 2nd house. Fifth is

pleasure -

> - impulsive ones even. The tenth therefrom governs the balance,

for

> obvious reasons.

>

> Interestingly, the lord of 5th in Marilyn's chart is mars and is

> placed in the 8th with jupiter. Doesn't take much imagination to

see

> the connections in her life as we know them.

>

> Both lord of 2nd house (discipline) and mercury (karaka for

> commonsense) are placed in the badhakasthana, 11th. I have often

> seen and recommended that more stress be given to the planets in

> badhaksthana (rather than blaming the lord of said house!) and in

> this case more explanations are not warranted. Throw in the

> intrinsic karakattwa of sun and it adds even more. The strong

libra

> saturn aspecting venus in 10th explains without much injection of

> imaginative explanations about the role of older men in high

places

> that helped and defined her role in this lifetime, that of venus

> incarnate as some would say.

>

> Mercury is weak in bala and is pairing with the Master of

confusion -

> - rahu and other malefics in some of the relevant and significant

> vargas.

>

> I will give it rest there, given the post-mortem nature of this

> examination.

>

>

> RR

>

> , "Juliana Swanson"

> <omhamsa> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tanvir and other members, thank you for welcoming me to

this

> > respected forum. In my humble opinion you are correct that Venus

> can

> > be implicated in a case of poor common sense. Venus represents

our

> > ability to have pleasure and comfort. Venus represents the

choices

> > we make that will influence whether or not we can create such

> > satisfaction and whether we can be content at the sensory level.

> One

> > example I can think of is in the chart of the twentieth-century

> > Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, who was notorious for showing a

> lack

> > of common sense, espcially in her relationship choices, and she

> was

> > deeply unhappy, as well: 6/1/1926, 9:30 AM, Los Angeles, CA,

> > 34N04'00", 118W15'00", +8.00, DST-0, Lahiri: 20:15 Karka Lagna.

> > Though Venus is strong in overall Shadbala, which reflects her

> > remarkably sensuous beauty, Venus is very weak in Dig Bala

> opposite

> > the 4th house; this could signify the star's inability to direct

> her

> > life toward truly fulfilling activities and thus to find

> happiness,

> > which could be interpreted as the inability to make good

choices,

> > i.e., a lack of common sense. Obviously there are many other

> things

> > to consider that led to the problems with Venus, such as the

fact

> > that Venus is a temporal malefic and lord of a kamasthana, etc.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Juliana

> >

> > , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

> > <ultimate@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me, that lacking in common sense very

seriously

> > etc. -

> > > is that one of the negativities of Venus? I know about Mercury

> but

> > can

> > > Ve be an answer too?

> > >

> > > I am seriously suspecting this right now. . .

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Tanvir

> > >

> >

>

>

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

----------

>

>

> a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> b..

>

>

> c.. Terms of

Service.

>

>

> --

----------

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Srinivasan,

 

Mercury symbolizes the curiosity in us. Virgo as such is

also a very inquisitive and critical sign. A native with exalted mercury,

especially as a child who has not yet learnt the disciplines of life

(represented by jupiter), has perpetual questions on his lips and constant

exploring of his surroundings in his actions.

 

In professions, the career which aptly represents mercury in virgo, is

journalism. The reporters, keep on asking questions, snapping photographs,

however meaningless or silly they might sound. They interview a dying man's wife

and ask her,"How do you feel?"

 

Mercury knows how to collect details and knowledge, but lacks the

sensitivity to realize the emotional and ethical impact of the information it is

collecting and spreading.

 

People with a powerfull mercury have a tendency to talk more and hear

less. They are in love with their own voices and verbal abilities. They like to

argue and to go to illogical lengths to prove their logics. It is called

"Skinning a hair". But, these aspects are seen mostly when mercury is alone in

its own sign. In combination with venus and sun, its inquisitive qualities are

channelised properly.

 

With venus, it performs at its best. Venus gives it the ears to listen

and better sense to how to and "whether to" use the information it has gathered

or not. Person with a powerfull mercury inquires more and understands less,

whereas a person with powerfull venus asks less and understands more.

 

Mercury is also responsible for interest in sciences like astrology, and

most of the astrologers have a powerfull mercury. No wonder we see so many

lengthy and verbose discussions on any astrological topic. As I put it, they try

to catch hold of their noses by reaching behind and around the head when the

simple, short and natural way is available to do so.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

srinivasan Natarajan

Monday, 02 January, 2006 18:52

Re: Re: Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint ...

 

 

dear sir, i found with manychild where the budha is exalted in any place,

particularly in kanya where of hyperactive child. kindly seeintoit

 

om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Dear sir,

I liked your reasoning.

All planets to grater or lesser extent can cloud reasoning.

Tatvam-Asi

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh> wrote:

>

> Dear astrologers,

>

> Do not forget the roles of rahu-ketu here.

Both of them take one away from reality in their own different ways.

>

> An individual may be very intelligent and showing lot of

pragmatism in daily life, but in certain matters, he may show total

lack of common-sense. In matters of love, almost everyone goes without

any common sense. That is why they call it "falling in love".

>

> Venus can be blamed squarely for "falling in love". In other

matters like those related to profession, fame and health, rahu-ketu,

especially ketu, the headless one, have been found to be responsible.

>

> Now, something which might pinch the religious ones. Jupiter

is the karak of religion, rituals, traditions, law, etc. None of these

have any space for common sense. A very strong jupiter takes one away

from it too.

>

> An exalted mercury, causes too much logical analysis of

even trivial situations, again reducing common sense.

>

> In short, every planet contributes in its own way.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> rohiniranjan

>

> Monday, 02 January, 2006 09:33

> Re: Lacking in common sense (?) - Another viewpoint

...

>

>

> Not trying to change or challenge prevailing opinions, but just a

> few thoughts, if I may. Keep or toss, as they say!

>

> I would have given the portfolio of common sense (Vyavaharik

buddhi)

> to mercury without afflictions.

>

> Discipline (niyama/sanyam) is from the 2nd house. Fifth is

pleasure -

> - impulsive ones even. The tenth therefrom governs the balance,

for

> obvious reasons.

>

> Interestingly, the lord of 5th in Marilyn's chart is mars and is

> placed in the 8th with jupiter. Doesn't take much imagination to

see

> the connections in her life as we know them.

>

> Both lord of 2nd house (discipline) and mercury (karaka for

> commonsense) are placed in the badhakasthana, 11th. I have often

> seen and recommended that more stress be given to the planets in

> badhaksthana (rather than blaming the lord of said house!) and in

> this case more explanations are not warranted. Throw in the

> intrinsic karakattwa of sun and it adds even more. The strong

libra

> saturn aspecting venus in 10th explains without much injection of

> imaginative explanations about the role of older men in high

places

> that helped and defined her role in this lifetime, that of venus

> incarnate as some would say.

>

> Mercury is weak in bala and is pairing with the Master of

confusion -

> - rahu and other malefics in some of the relevant and significant

> vargas.

>

> I will give it rest there, given the post-mortem nature of this

> examination.

>

>

> RR

>

> , "Juliana Swanson"

> <omhamsa> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tanvir and other members, thank you for welcoming me to

this

> > respected forum. In my humble opinion you are correct that Venus

> can

> > be implicated in a case of poor common sense. Venus represents

our

> > ability to have pleasure and comfort. Venus represents the

choices

> > we make that will influence whether or not we can create such

> > satisfaction and whether we can be content at the sensory level.

> One

> > example I can think of is in the chart of the twentieth-century

> > Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, who was notorious for showing a

> lack

> > of common sense, espcially in her relationship choices, and she

> was

> > deeply unhappy, as well: 6/1/1926, 9:30 AM, Los Angeles, CA,

> > 34N04'00", 118W15'00", +8.00, DST-0, Lahiri: 20:15 Karka Lagna.

> > Though Venus is strong in overall Shadbala, which reflects her

> > remarkably sensuous beauty, Venus is very weak in Dig Bala

> opposite

> > the 4th house; this could signify the star's inability to direct

> her

> > life toward truly fulfilling activities and thus to find

> happiness,

> > which could be interpreted as the inability to make good

choices,

> > i.e., a lack of common sense. Obviously there are many other

> things

> > to consider that led to the problems with Venus, such as the

fact

> > that Venus is a temporal malefic and lord of a kamasthana, etc.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Juliana

> >

> > , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

> > <ultimate@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me, that lacking in common sense very

seriously

> > etc. -

> > > is that one of the negativities of Venus? I know about Mercury

> but

> > can

> > > Ve be an answer too?

> > >

> > > I am seriously suspecting this right now. . .

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Tanvir

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

----------

>

>

> a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> b..

>

>

> c.. Terms of

Service.

>

>

> --

----------

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

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OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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