Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Dear Ranjan Saheb I follow this message board (together with two other popular Jyotish groups on ) with a keen interest, and appreciate the contributions from experienced Jyotishis such as yourself. The opportunity to gain an insight into the techniques adopted in chart analysis and to learn of the combinations (as per the classics) that hold strength in this present time from those who have `tried and tested' is a boon to avid beginners like myself. Without such a resource, my learning would be confined to books and vulnerable to erroneous interpretations. This is especially the case when one resides in a city (London) where Joyitishis themselves are rare, thus eliminating any hope for guidance from an experienced Jyotishi or `Guru'. Jyotish is a very deep, vast and challenging art as well as a science, and this is what leaves most, especially those that `place it neatly' in either category, disillusioned by the results of their efforts. Intuition is a facet much talked about nowadays in social sciences such as economics, where mere mathematical or statistical inference has proven to be insufficient in deriving an accurate theorem: the ability to intuitively combine an array of factors in reaching a final assessment is crucial. This very same principle applies to Jyotish, and I have realised (through your recommendations) that the quickest way to develop this intuition is by collecting and analysing as many charts as possible. This in itself adds a wholly unique dimension to the study, enabling one to apply creative faculties that gradually establish and embed a personalised approach to chart analysis. I have noticed the recent trend for gross misinterpretation, and although I have not once detected any malice in your writings, the metaphoric/ambiguous and highly technical style in which you write can convey an aura of arrogance to those not -so -well versed in English. It seems that the majority of the abuse directed at yourself is as a result of misguided insecurities and poor judgement of the use of English. Therefore, I would encourage you to overlook such outbursts and continue to commit the time and mental energy in passing on your knowledge through this medium, so young, inexperienced aspirants such as myself can reap the benefits. Thank you and with best regards, Maniv , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Dear SSS ji, > > I have never ever claimed publicly or privately that I am super- > knowledgeable in astrology or the slave language you refer to. Quite > the contrary!! > > But, why such animosity, oh bearer of Lord Siva in your goodname, > simply based on what I never said, but what you misperceive or expect > to be the case? ;-) > > Then again, RR-bashing seems to have become a favourite trend on this > message board and strangely on some other boards where a lot more > accomplished jyotishis have experienced worse, in these current > troubled times! But then again, I say, it is better to experience a > mouth-grenade (or keyboard atombomb!) than a real one (Middle east!) > Hey maybe it is because of recent Diwali that the fireworks are still > going off in the incendiary souls, all over the place :-) > > "I may seem to be amused personally but am truly sad for Ma jyotish > and Baba Siddhidata Ganapati at the same time", > > RR > > > > , "sarasalai_siva" > <sarasalai_siva@h...> wrote: > > > > , "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in> wrote: > > > > > > RRji, > > > Some of us not so young (interms of age), marvel at the rate of > > > change of the learning process when we look at the present > > > generation, they seem to show a remarkable ability and agility in > > > their learning curve when compared to the time when we were made > to > > > sweat and search for knowledge, now they are fast and > > > sure....pitfalls and traps abound for them but they adapt fast, > I, > > > for one,admire this change in the overall learning process. > > > The same may not be true for this complex art and acience that > > > jyotish is. > > > But let us give them the youngsters their due and relish that > they > > > have this opportunity which was lacking earlier. > > > Regards > > > rishi > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannatha || > > > > > > Hellow RR, > > > > Your Lagna is Scorpio , there mercury is retrograding . > > This is bad (to astrology too ). You are not so knowledageable in > > astrology > > as you think. > > > > Retro mercury may give diplomatic , tactful or even cunning > > nature /virture - ( in writing ??) > > > > No doubt your exalated jupiter gives dharmic virture. > > > > Pls note I am not expert in slave master's language . > > I went to school till grade 10. > > > > sarasalai_siva > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Maniv ji, Your kind words are very gratefully welcome. I will continue to do my best, though at times, prevailing negativity in this world of ours may get me down at times, but when I have sentiments like yours as my Kavach, negativity evaporates, just as it did from this message thread! You are right, intuition can be an important ally of even left- brained jyotishis, often helping them without their knowledge. Our passion and sincerity can only get rewarded, one way or another. Why else would we believe that astrology works! Since you mention London, I have heard that somewhere around London or even in it exists a British Jyotish Society (I think Komilla Sutton is one of the leaders, but please check). I have really found that even a small local study group can really work wonders in one's learning. RR , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> wrote: > > Dear Ranjan Saheb > > I follow this message board (together with two other popular > Jyotish groups on ) with a keen interest, and appreciate the > contributions from experienced Jyotishis such as yourself. The > opportunity to gain an insight into the techniques adopted in chart > analysis and to learn of the combinations (as per the classics) that > hold strength in this present time from those who have `tried and > tested' is a boon to avid beginners like myself. Without such a > resource, my learning would be confined to books and vulnerable to > erroneous interpretations. This is especially the case when one > resides in a city (London) where Joyitishis themselves are rare, > thus eliminating any hope for guidance from an experienced Jyotishi > or `Guru'. > > Jyotish is a very deep, vast and challenging art as well as a > science, and this is what leaves most, especially those that `place > it neatly' in either category, disillusioned by the results of their > efforts. Intuition is a facet much talked about nowadays in social > sciences such as economics, where mere mathematical or statistical > inference has proven to be insufficient in deriving an accurate > theorem: the ability to intuitively combine an array of factors in > reaching a final assessment is crucial. This very same principle > applies to Jyotish, and I have realised (through your > recommendations) that the quickest way to develop this intuition is > by collecting and analysing as many charts as possible. This in > itself adds a wholly unique dimension to the study, enabling one to > apply creative faculties that gradually establish and embed a > personalised approach to chart analysis. > > I have noticed the recent trend for gross misinterpretation, and > although I have not once detected any malice in your writings, the > metaphoric/ambiguous and highly technical style in which you write > can convey an aura of arrogance to those not -so -well versed in > English. It seems that the majority of the abuse directed at > yourself is as a result of misguided insecurities and poor judgement > of the use of English. Therefore, I would encourage you to overlook > such outbursts and continue to commit the time and mental energy in > passing on your knowledge through this medium, so young, > inexperienced aspirants such as myself can reap the benefits. > > Thank you and with best regards, > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 The London based Jyotish groups are: British Associatiojn for Vedic Astrology - _www.bava.org_ (http://www.bava.org) Sri Jagannath Centre - London group - contact _gwbrennan_ (gwbrennan) Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Rohini Saheb/ Gordon Thank you for the details of the London based Jyotish Groups. It is exciting to learn of the existence of people with a similar passion in London, and I will endeavour to contact these organisations soon. Regards Maniv , GWBrennan@a... wrote: > > The London based Jyotish groups are: > > British Associatiojn for Vedic Astrology - _www.bava.org_ > (http://www.bava.org) > > Sri Jagannath Centre - London group - contact _gwbrennan@a..._ > (gwbrennan@a...) > > Regards > > Gordon > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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