My apologies to jyotishi friends for sarcasm

[Guest guest]

Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

 

The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was that

well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception that I

tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been perceived

as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to do

with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those who

are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live and

work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I hate

being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

considered as informal jest which I would happily take from others

too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a tantrum

was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get irritated, I

am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually about

astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests in a

certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have given

advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by them -

- I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their perception.

I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins. My

cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums are

very formal and we address others with the formality that I too grew

up in in India with decades ago.

 

Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer of

politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still be

people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have to

be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to avoid

them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters for

all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I caused,

whether intentionally or not!

 

RR

 

 

, "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

wrote:

>

> I want to take this event in a positive spirit.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Rohiniji,

My sincere apologies to you by delaying to bring to your attn the displeasure

(so called ,but not in reality) caused to me at that time.The reason for the

delay or altogether dropping for expressing any displeasure of your behaviour is

,that I found myself lacking in abilities the correct perception of

understanding the personalities in proper perspective,which the same i

understood lateron with your well intentioned advise(blessings is the correct

word),through which i not only benefitted but also the fact that while

understanding the people it should not be based on just by the

words/expressions on their face but also along with it one has to take into

consideration the intentions . I truly enjoyed your erudite writings on

astrology and also (as rightly said by Sri Tanvirji ) helped me to dispel the

wrong notions and helped be to understand basics of astrology in right

perspective.I too started to take interest in studying vedic astrology about and

year ago and read and

benefitted from your writings.Though i'm still a child in this science ,but

seek very kindly your contributions/guidance through fora like these.

Once again asking for your apologies and seeking your blessings.

srinivas

 

 

Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote:

Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

 

The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was that

well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception that I

tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been perceived

as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to do

with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those who

are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live and

work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I hate

being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

considered as informal jest which I would happily take from others

too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a tantrum

was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get irritated, I

am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually about

astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests in a

certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have given

advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by them -

- I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their perception.

I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins. My

cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums are

very formal and we address others with the formality that I too grew

up in in India with decades ago.

 

Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer of

politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still be

people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have to

be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to avoid

them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters for

all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I caused,

whether intentionally or not!

 

RR

 

 

, "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

wrote:

>

> I want to take this event in a positive spirit.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear RRji

 

You can count me in as a person with whom you can be informal!

BTW i call you with a suffix ji as you are much elder to me in age,

so please dont call me JI again!

Best wishes

partha

 

 

, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)"

<rrgb@s...> wrote:

>

> Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

>

> The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was

that

> well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception that

I

> tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been

perceived

> as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to do

> with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

> their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

> sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those

who

> are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live and

> work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I

hate

> being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

> considered as informal jest which I would happily take from others

> too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a tantrum

> was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

> clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get irritated,

I

> am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually

about

> astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests in

a

> certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have

given

> advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by

them -

> - I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their

perception.

> I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

> informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins. My

> cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

> informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums

are

> very formal and we address others with the formality that I too

grew

> up in in India with decades ago.

>

> Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

> like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer of

> politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still

be

> people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have

to

> be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to avoid

> them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

> different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters for

> all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I

caused,

> whether intentionally or not!

>

> RR

>

>

> , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > I want to take this event in a positive spirit.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

After the first impression one gets, what comes across is your good

intentions.

 

Since I have become a member of this group, it is only recently you have started

writing on a daily basis. And I am really enjoying your mails. Only sometimes I

wish I had more grasp on the English language (to understand your mails

completely) and hopefully I will be able to improve by reading more literary

works. (btw, I didn't know the names you compared venus and jupiter with)

 

Sometimes I used to think why you dont answer the simple question that

one has asked, but instead ask the person to find out something. But I

assume that people who know more, also know the next step. And when my

knowledge will increase, so will my vision.

 

Regards,

Divya

 

 

 

"Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote:Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

 

The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was that

well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception that I

tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been perceived

as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to do

with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those who

are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live and

work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I hate

being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

considered as informal jest which I would happily take from others

too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a tantrum

was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get irritated, I

am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually about

astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests in a

certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have given

advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by them -

- I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their perception.

I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins. My

cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums are

very formal and we address others with the formality that I too grew

up in in India with decades ago.

 

Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer of

politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still be

people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have to

be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to avoid

them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters for

all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I caused,

whether intentionally or not!

 

RR

 

 

, "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

wrote:

>

> I want to take this event in a positive spirit.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Divyaji,

 

I write on and for several forums and also one has to make sure there

is tomorrow :-) hence I may show up intermittently. However, there is

such a wealth of contribution in a variety of astrology and

divination related fields that in each forum there will always be

plenty of gems to enjoy for the readers. This is such a great

progress over what existed 10-15 years ago. We all are so fortunate.

 

Sometime so called 'simple' questions are much better described and

illustrated in commonly available texts that yet another commentary

on the mailing list is perhaps not necessary. Also, in my experience,

when people/students make an effort to search in several places,

weigh different opinions, etc they learn and remember better. Also

based on what I have seen in the email mailing list format, even

simple things can cause confusion because in most of the email

responses things are not or cannot be explained entirely. This

sometimes confuses even people with some experience and familiarity

of the topic. It is much better to read an article or book which has

been more carefully written with more time given to it and also

reviewed and edited several times. This is my reason for preferring

that a sincere querent not rely entirely on the output on forums. The

forums are really for filling in the gaps, things that articles and

books miss or did not intend to cover, special areas, as well as for

reporting work in progress because of the speed of publication of

this medium. Forums are also most important for exchanging birthdata

and research findings, although for one reason or another, many

researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

forums and open, unoderated mailing lists.

 

I was referring to the mythological reference to the Asuraguru

Shukracharya (venus) and Devaguru Brihaspati (Jupiter), essentially

the icons leading the darkside and the bright side of human nature as

also portrayed in the Starwars series by Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth

Vadar.

 

RR

 

 

, Divya <touchbase_divya>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> After the first impression one gets, what comes across is your good

> intentions.

>

> Since I have become a member of this group, it is only recently you

have started writing on a daily basis. And I am really enjoying your

mails. Only sometimes I wish I had more grasp on the English language

(to understand your mails completely) and hopefully I will be able to

improve by reading more literary works. (btw, I didn't know the names

you compared venus and jupiter with)

>

> Sometimes I used to think why you dont answer the simple question

that

> one has asked, but instead ask the person to find out something.

But I

> assume that people who know more, also know the next step. And when

my

> knowledge will increase, so will my vision.

>

> Regards,

> Divya

[Guest guest]

Dear Friend,

half baked questions and insufficient and in complete information along with

specific direction only on few irrelavant issues lead to:Forums are also most

important for

research findings, "although for one reason or another, many

researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

forums and open, unoderated mailing lists"

in between some people using the form as a cartel with some more people try to

distract attention.the media is electronic and need lot of attention to

understand motives and genuine ness of the issues need confirmation before any

serious issues are made out

krishnan

 

"Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote:

Divyaji,

 

I write on and for several forums and also one has to make sure there

is tomorrow :-) hence I may show up intermittently. However, there is

such a wealth of contribution in a variety of astrology and

divination related fields that in each forum there will always be

plenty of gems to enjoy for the readers. This is such a great

progress over what existed 10-15 years ago. We all are so fortunate.

 

Sometime so called 'simple' questions are much better described and

illustrated in commonly available texts that yet another commentary

on the mailing list is perhaps not necessary. Also, in my experience,

when people/students make an effort to search in several places,

weigh different opinions, etc they learn and remember better. Also

based on what I have seen in the email mailing list format, even

simple things can cause confusion because in most of the email

responses things are not or cannot be explained entirely. This

sometimes confuses even people with some experience and familiarity

of the topic. It is much better to read an article or book which has

been more carefully written with more time given to it and also

reviewed and edited several times. This is my reason for preferring

that a sincere querent not rely entirely on the output on forums. The

forums are really for filling in the gaps, things that articles and

books miss or did not intend to cover, special areas, as well as for

reporting work in progress because of the speed of publication of

this medium. Forums are also most important for exchanging birthdata

and research findings, although for one reason or another, many

researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

forums and open, unoderated mailing lists.

 

I was referring to the mythological reference to the Asuraguru

Shukracharya (venus) and Devaguru Brihaspati (Jupiter), essentially

the icons leading the darkside and the bright side of human nature as

also portrayed in the Starwars series by Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth

Vadar.

 

RR

 

 

, Divya <touchbase_divya>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> After the first impression one gets, what comes across is your good

> intentions.

>

> Since I have become a member of this group, it is only recently you

have started writing on a daily basis. And I am really enjoying your

mails. Only sometimes I wish I had more grasp on the English language

(to understand your mails completely) and hopefully I will be able to

improve by reading more literary works. (btw, I didn't know the names

you compared venus and jupiter with)

>

> Sometimes I used to think why you dont answer the simple question

that

> one has asked, but instead ask the person to find out something.

But I

> assume that people who know more, also know the next step. And when

my

> knowledge will increase, so will my vision.

>

> Regards,

> Divya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Krishnan dada,

 

But that is not going to change readily -- the half-baked nature of

questions and even answers. There is a massive growth swirl, a

tornado that is enveloping jyotish and those who resist it as well as

those who swirl with it -- neither are safe. As in the body, when

growth is maximum, many cells are produced at the same time but there

is also increased death of cells at the same time and if we assume

(and pray for) that to be the model for modern jyotish, then

eventually what will emerge will be a stronger product, for having

not just withstood the storm but perhaps being shaped due to it. I

remain hopeful. Sometimes I shall resist and at other times I shall

flow with it for I am not emancipated enough like some to just

observe it and witness it unattachedly, at least in body :-)

 

Blessings welcome!

 

RR

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99> wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> half baked questions and insufficient and in complete information

along with specific direction only on few irrelavant issues lead

to:Forums are also most important for

> research findings, "although for one reason or another, many

> researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

> forums and open, unoderated mailing lists"

> in between some people using the form as a cartel with some more

people try to distract attention.the media is electronic and need lot

of attention to understand motives and genuine ness of the issues

need confirmation before any serious issues are made out

> krishnan

>

> "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> Divyaji,

>

> I write on and for several forums and also one has to make sure

there

> is tomorrow :-) hence I may show up intermittently. However, there

is

> such a wealth of contribution in a variety of astrology and

> divination related fields that in each forum there will always be

> plenty of gems to enjoy for the readers. This is such a great

> progress over what existed 10-15 years ago. We all are so fortunate.

>

> Sometime so called 'simple' questions are much better described and

> illustrated in commonly available texts that yet another commentary

> on the mailing list is perhaps not necessary. Also, in my

experience,

> when people/students make an effort to search in several places,

> weigh different opinions, etc they learn and remember better. Also

> based on what I have seen in the email mailing list format, even

> simple things can cause confusion because in most of the email

> responses things are not or cannot be explained entirely. This

> sometimes confuses even people with some experience and familiarity

> of the topic. It is much better to read an article or book which

has

> been more carefully written with more time given to it and also

> reviewed and edited several times. This is my reason for preferring

> that a sincere querent not rely entirely on the output on forums.

The

> forums are really for filling in the gaps, things that articles and

> books miss or did not intend to cover, special areas, as well as

for

> reporting work in progress because of the speed of publication of

> this medium. Forums are also most important for exchanging

birthdata

> and research findings, although for one reason or another, many

> researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

> forums and open, unoderated mailing lists.

>

> I was referring to the mythological reference to the Asuraguru

> Shukracharya (venus) and Devaguru Brihaspati (Jupiter), essentially

> the icons leading the darkside and the bright side of human nature

as

> also portrayed in the Starwars series by Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth

> Vadar.

>

> RR

>

>

> , Divya

<touchbase_divya>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > After the first impression one gets, what comes across is your

good

> > intentions.

> >

> > Since I have become a member of this group, it is only recently

you

> have started writing on a daily basis. And I am really enjoying

your

> mails. Only sometimes I wish I had more grasp on the English

language

> (to understand your mails completely) and hopefully I will be able

to

> improve by reading more literary works. (btw, I didn't know the

names

> you compared venus and jupiter with)

> >

> > Sometimes I used to think why you dont answer the simple question

> that

> > one has asked, but instead ask the person to find out something.

> But I

> > assume that people who know more, also know the next step. And

when

> my

> > knowledge will increase, so will my vision.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Divya

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ji

 

When I said you are sarcastic sometimes then I did not want to express any

discomfort about it. Rather I have said that your sarcasms are pointed to some

unusual or not-so-sensible behaviour of people. So I have no problems with it.

Please try not to misunderstand me! I would said earlier if I had any problems.

I think most of the people are fine with the way you express yourself.

 

There is no need to change your writing mode to a formal one (As I feel so) - it

is fine ; however only some members like Kishore Ji might prefer a formal

interaction, that is merely what I was saying.

 

I mean what I am saying.

 

Lots of misunderstandings around - may be something up with current transits?

 

Regards

Tanvir

 

 

 

What cannot happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies

Where relief and solutions are found

 

 

 

-

Rohini (Crystal Pages)

Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:54 AM

My apologies to jyotishi friends for "sarcasm"

 

 

Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

 

The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was that

well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception that I

tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been perceived

as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to do

with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those who

are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live and

work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I hate

being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

considered as informal jest which I would happily take from others

too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a tantrum

was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get irritated, I

am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually about

astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests in a

certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have given

advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by them -

- I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their perception.

I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins. My

cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums are

very formal and we address others with the formality that I too grew

up in in India with decades ago.

 

Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer of

politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still be

people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have to

be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to avoid

them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters for

all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I caused,

whether intentionally or not!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tanvir,

 

Just to clear the air. I was not at all distressed or offended by

your candid and level-headed assessment and recapitulation of the

situation. No ill-feeling here with you or anyone on this forum,

actually. Like I mentioned to someone recently: We are all ships

passing each other in this vast ocean. There is lots of room and no

one should feel threatened or crowded :-)

 

I shall be careful! Thanks

 

warm regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji

>

> When I said you are sarcastic sometimes then I did not want to

express any discomfort about it. Rather I have said that your

sarcasms are pointed to some unusual or not-so-sensible behaviour of

people. So I have no problems with it. Please try not to

misunderstand me! I would said earlier if I had any problems. I think

most of the people are fine with the way you express yourself.

>

> There is no need to change your writing mode to a formal one (As I

feel so) - it is fine ; however only some members like Kishore Ji

might prefer a formal interaction, that is merely what I was saying.

>

> I mean what I am saying.

>

> Lots of misunderstandings around - may be something up with current

transits?

>

> Regards

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What cannot happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

> Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving

remedies

> Where relief and solutions are found

>

>

>

> -

> Rohini (Crystal Pages)

>

> Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:54 AM

> My apologies to jyotishi friends for "sarcasm"

>

>

> Dear Tanvir and forum friends,

>

> The positive for me personally that came out of this episode was

that

> well-wishers and friends have shared honestly their perception

that I

> tend to come across as 'sarcastic' and I believe have been

perceived

> as inflicting 'barbs'. Strangely -- none of this had anything to

do

> with my use of the word 'fellow' but it allowed people to express

> their discomfort in the past. I was sincerely not aware that

> sometimes my teasing nature (and it only comes out amongst those

who

> are my cyberfriends and in a sense cybercommunity where I live

and

> work. I am not at all a stodgy and egoistic or formal person (I

hate

> being a stuffed shirt actually!) and had no idea that what I

> considered as informal jest which I would happily take from

others

> too and have in the past without feeling hurt or throwing a

tantrum

> was causing pain. Srinivas ji's email brought that to me very

> clearly. I wish he had expressed this earlier. I do get

irritated, I

> am human, when I sense and see that people are talking casually

about

> astrology or are being phony and through asking reading requests

in a

> certain tone. But, if I have caused pain, to those whom I have

given

> advice astrologically, due to what was perceived as sarcasm by

them -

> - I sincerely apologize for that, because I respect their

perception.

> I cut my cyberteeth in 80s and early 90s in fora which were very

> informal and with nearly no people from Indian or Asian origins.

My

> cyberpersona developed in that environment which was extremely

> informal, and open. In contrast many of the modern jyotish forums

are

> very formal and we address others with the formality that I too

grew

> up in in India with decades ago.

>

> Okay, no more informal chit chat for me. People are sensitive and

> like their distance and so I will try hard and regain my veneer

of

> politeness and formality and distance. And since there will still

be

> people from time to time who shall try to provoke me, I will have

to

> be extra cautious, reserved and careful with them and try to

avoid

> them even when they provoke. I realize now that this is a very

> different cyberrealm now. Thanks to all friends and supporters

for

> all they have given me and once more apologies for any pain I

caused,

> whether intentionally or not!

>

> RR

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for explaining :-)

 

"Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote:Divyaji,

 

I write on and for several forums and also one has to make sure there

is tomorrow :-) hence I may show up intermittently. However, there is

such a wealth of contribution in a variety of astrology and

divination related fields that in each forum there will always be

plenty of gems to enjoy for the readers. This is such a great

progress over what existed 10-15 years ago. We all are so fortunate.

 

Sometime so called 'simple' questions are much better described and

illustrated in commonly available texts that yet another commentary

on the mailing list is perhaps not necessary. Also, in my experience,

when people/students make an effort to search in several places,

weigh different opinions, etc they learn and remember better. Also

based on what I have seen in the email mailing list format, even

simple things can cause confusion because in most of the email

responses things are not or cannot be explained entirely. This

sometimes confuses even people with some experience and familiarity

of the topic. It is much better to read an article or book which has

been more carefully written with more time given to it and also

reviewed and edited several times. This is my reason for preferring

that a sincere querent not rely entirely on the output on forums. The

forums are really for filling in the gaps, things that articles and

books miss or did not intend to cover, special areas, as well as for

reporting work in progress because of the speed of publication of

this medium. Forums are also most important for exchanging birthdata

and research findings, although for one reason or another, many

researchers are reluctant to bring their research to light through

forums and open, unoderated mailing lists.

 

I was referring to the mythological reference to the Asuraguru

Shukracharya (venus) and Devaguru Brihaspati (Jupiter), essentially

the icons leading the darkside and the bright side of human nature as

also portrayed in the Starwars series by Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth

Vadar.

 

RR

 

 

, Divya <touchbase_divya>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> After the first impression one gets, what comes across is your good

> intentions.

>

> Since I have become a member of this group, it is only recently you

have started writing on a daily basis. And I am really enjoying your

mails. Only sometimes I wish I had more grasp on the English language

(to understand your mails completely) and hopefully I will be able to

improve by reading more literary works. (btw, I didn't know the names

you compared venus and jupiter with)

>

> Sometimes I used to think why you dont answer the simple question

that

> one has asked, but instead ask the person to find out something.

But I

> assume that people who know more, also know the next step. And when

my

> knowledge will increase, so will my vision.

>

> Regards,

> Divya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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