Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Since my name was mentioned in this backbiting message, I must respond! When, fellow-members, did referring to a third person's remarks as coming from a 'fellow' become classified as a slur? Will someone kindly explain what a slur really means? Which country made this new rule for this word in english as it is spoken or written? Barbs I can apologize for, gladly, but this kind of backbiting and bitching? , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > Thank you brother arjun, > > I too look forward to learning and sharing in this group and perhaps, > the reason that I am involving personally with group may be the > reason for reacting to a slur. But theBut I guess I am a kind of > person who would call a spade a spade. , uess I am a kind of person > who would call a spade a spade. > > Guess ranjanji could save his (and that of others too) positive > energy by being more down to earth. > > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > -- In , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear brother patnaikji > > > > in this forum, no one takes any observation or view or opinion or > comment pesonally. this is a healthy practice in which every member > respect the other and continue reading charts and sharing their > knowledge and also seeking and learning a few things as well. > > > > my elderly brotherly advise to you is that even if you personally > do not like one word or one observation, respond it positively and in > a professional matured manner. sometime ago gurmeet singhji took the > observation of a few members personally and i requested him to take > these criticms positively and later on not only did he save his > positive energy but also is contributing in a positive manner which > is appreciated by all. > > > > ranjanji is a highly learnt astrologer and his writings sometimes > are informal and friendly which are liked by the current generation. > so, brother patnaikji, please close the saga of mails on reaction to > one word and use your energy positively in reading the charts. your > readings are excellent and we are all very happy that when we are > busy or not able to answer, here is our brother who is contributing a > lot. > > > > looking forward to your continued contribution in reading charts in > the group and with best wishes and regards > > arjun > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > misunderstanding does. > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference > to > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > asking > > me to mind my language. > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > Frankly, > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > situations :-) > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > English > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > wordings. > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences > for > > > very long. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > --- In , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things > > > > happening > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? > Please > > > > > > > > > > > > > help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > > > > > > > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE > BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology > Vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology > Free > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on > the > > > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > email > > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice > 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > DIVINITY > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > email > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million > > > songs. > > > > > Try > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > DIVINITY > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > email > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million > > > > songs. > > > > > Try > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > DIVINITY > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million > > > songs. > > > > > Try it > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Back biting is something done behind your back. And if you think this is bitching, let me just blow my nose. Or, is it you turn your back to a geniune grievance? oh well, do let me know since when slang has got formalized and protesting has become bitching. kishore patnaik , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Since my name was mentioned in this backbiting message, I must > respond! > > When, fellow-members, did referring to a third person's remarks as > coming from a 'fellow' become classified as a slur? Will someone > kindly explain what a slur really means? > > Which country made this new rule for this word in english as it is > spoken or written? > > Barbs I can apologize for, gladly, but this kind of backbiting and > bitching? , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > Thank you brother arjun, > > > > I too look forward to learning and sharing in this group and > perhaps, > > the reason that I am involving personally with group may be the > > reason for reacting to a slur. But theBut I guess I am a kind of > > person who would call a spade a spade. , uess I am a kind of person > > who would call a spade a spade. > > > > Guess ranjanji could save his (and that of others too) positive > > energy by being more down to earth. > > > > > > regards, > > > > kishore patnaik > > -- In , arjun pandit > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear brother patnaikji > > > > > > in this forum, no one takes any observation or view or opinion or > > comment pesonally. this is a healthy practice in which every > member > > respect the other and continue reading charts and sharing their > > knowledge and also seeking and learning a few things as well. > > > > > > my elderly brotherly advise to you is that even if you personally > > do not like one word or one observation, respond it positively and > in > > a professional matured manner. sometime ago gurmeet singhji took > the > > observation of a few members personally and i requested him to take > > these criticms positively and later on not only did he save his > > positive energy but also is contributing in a positive manner which > > is appreciated by all. > > > > > > ranjanji is a highly learnt astrologer and his writings sometimes > > are informal and friendly which are liked by the current > generation. > > so, brother patnaikji, please close the saga of mails on reaction > to > > one word and use your energy positively in reading the charts. > your > > readings are excellent and we are all very happy that when we are > > busy or not able to answer, here is our brother who is contributing > a > > lot. > > > > > > looking forward to your continued contribution in reading charts > in > > the group and with best wishes and regards > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > > misunderstanding does. > > > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a > reference > > to > > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have > read > > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to > others > > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since > nothing > > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > > asking > > > me to mind my language. > > > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > > Frankly, > > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > > situations :-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > > English > > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > > wordings. > > > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different > matter > > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination > sciences > > for > > > > very long. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > > language? > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > Pages)" > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha > sarathy" > > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > > situations. > > > > > > Due > > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > > from > > > > bad > > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore > mohan" > > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing > whether > > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > > first > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic > debate > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > > (Crystal > > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > > you. > > > > You > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is > placed > > > > > without > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > > taurus) > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > > mercury, > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in > kendra > > > > from > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > > cancellation; > > > > > > however > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > > specially > > > > > good > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since > your > > moon > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > > as it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > > holds > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a > natural > > > > > benefic > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has > kendra > > > > dosha, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely > reduce > > it a > > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > > from > > > > time > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will > have > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > > This > > > > has > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > > more > > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > > are > > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in > my > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > > cancel > > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli > or > > not? > > > > > if > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any > upaya > > for > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or > has > > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you > rightly > > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > > beneficial > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > > cancellation > > > > > rule. > > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation > of > > this > > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > > namely > > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall > seeing > > that > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > > state > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > > has an > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > > applying. > > > > > So, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > > this > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. > February > > 1848 > > > > > is > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > > yog as > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are > in > > > > > kendra > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga > exist > > > > only > > > > > if > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > > chart, > > > > the > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > > face > > > > all > > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > > and > > > > so > > > > > we > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% > hard > > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what > we > > got > > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > person's > > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > > maha > > > > dasa > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > > rasi > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will > get > > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > > instill > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting > self > > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > > in > > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > > of > > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to > fight > > out > > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > > some > > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > > the > > > > > other > > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom > someone > > had > > > > > said > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > mohammad > > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > > single > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of > their > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier > and > > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark > on > > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure > on > > this > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > > Kemdrum > > > > Yog" > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > > thing > > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, > companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > > about > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of > difficulties > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of > birth > > is > > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > > any > > > > way > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya > I > > can > > > > do > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad > this > > yog > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things > > > > > happening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? > > Please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE > > BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology > > Vedic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology > > Free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on > > the > > > > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > > email > > > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice > > 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE > > > > > DIVINITY > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on > the > > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > > email > > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 > million > > > > songs. > > > > > > Try > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE > > > > > DIVINITY > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on > the > > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > > email > > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 > million > > > > > songs. > > > > > > Try > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > DIVINITY > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an > email > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million > > > > songs. > > > > > > Try it > > > > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.