Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Panditji, Also in some vargas it is possible for the nodes to combine in a house. I have always been fascinated by this phenomenon. Like most of jyotish the basis and the goo®dh meaning of such confluence is something the Sages have chosen to remain silent (in either not writing about it or choosing not for us to obtain their writings!) but one of those things that I have a belief that they wanted us to find out! In fact most of the basis of jyotish I truly feel in my heart is the karmic quest of those who are drawn to or called to Jyotish. Many of us shy away from it and do not think we are capable of it and even think it is sacrilege to peep into that secret treasure chamber of 'why'. However, the growing realization over years and it is a very personal experience I admit, that the karma of jyotishis, at least dedicated jyotishis includes seeking the why and how jyotish works. Others may feel otherwise, but it is how I feel. It is not my ambition by the way! Please do not misunderstand!! RR , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > Dear brother trivedi ji > > i respect your observation as per Lalkitab principles. In my mail i just tried to make a mention that unlike vedic, in LK it is possible even to see Rahu and Ketu together, in adjacent houses or so without the thumbrule of rahu and ketu in the opposite houses at 180 degrees. > > with best wishes > arjun > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd> wrote: > Respected Arjun Pandit ji, > > Rahu and ketu can be , at the most, in the adjacent houses in the > Varsh phal based on a Janma Kundali and not together in the same > house. > Yes , if a janma kundali is cast by looking at the palm , and not > based on the birth data , then only it is possible that both rahu > and ketu might appear to be together in the same house which in the > Lal Kitab terminology is known as " dono grah ek hi bhav mein bol > rahe honge" > > With respect to all the gurus, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear brother ranjanji > > > > as per bhrigu samhita, gemini is the exalted sign for rahu and > saggitarius is the debilitated sign for rahu. saggitarius is the > exalted sign for ketu and gemini is the debilitated sign. cancer is > the mool trikon for rahu and capricorn is the mool trikon for ketu. > > > > in ravan samhita, it is written that both taurus and gemini are > exalted for rahu and scorpio and saggitarius are debilitated for > rahu. similalry scorpio and saggitarius are exalted for ketu taurus > and gemini are debilitated for ketu. > > > > modern astrologers (in their books) have given virgo as own house > for rahu and pisces as own house for ketu. > > > > you may wish to refer Lalkitab astrology also because only under > Lalkitab astrology, meaning of combination of other planets with > rahu and ketu is given. also in their varshaphal charts, rahu and > ketu can be present in the same house. though these things are not > in line with the vedic astrology, i found the readings based on them > incredibly true. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Please share, if possible: > > > > 1. Which signs you consider as the exaltation and debilitation > signs > > for rahu and ketu? > > > > 2. Classic source if known or even modern source if known, for > this > > information. > > > > 3. Do you use these signs when considering the nodes in general > > considerations (yogas, dashas etc) or in special situations (chara > > dasha, for instance)? > > > > Information provided with examples would be most helpful but I > would > > not mind hearing general and anecdotal views about this topic. > > > > Thanks for your help and time. > > > > Namashkaar, > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Dear Shri Rohini ji, "karma of jyotishis", (at least dedicated jyotishis) includes seeking the why and how jyotish works." often we come across some kind of mind boggling and brainstorming questions were posed to jyotishis and left in wonderland of planet,trying to explore "why and how". These roots embedded in the 4bhavas and in tripod(1,5 and 9) puzzle sometimes always some of us while handing over the indications.why and how are most important to be resolved giving rise to taking advantage of trilokchakra devised by sages. It is undeniable the karma of jyotishi plays a vital role and my Guru Shri K.N.Rao number of times was emphatice when ever accuracy of predictions suffer due to predictions,he feels the helpness of jyotish is due to karmic issues and at that time we have no answers except to bowdown to vidhi,destiny and salute the planets.the mysteries some times remain beyond perceptions due to multiple interactions of karakas,bhavas and signs with dasa lords krishnan krishnan "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote: Panditji, Also in some vargas it is possible for the nodes to combine in a house. I have always been fascinated by this phenomenon. Like most of jyotish the basis and the goo®dh meaning of such confluence is something the Sages have chosen to remain silent (in either not writing about it or choosing not for us to obtain their writings!) but one of those things that I have a belief that they wanted us to find out! In fact most of the basis of jyotish I truly feel in my heart is the karmic quest of those who are drawn to or called to Jyotish. Many of us shy away from it and do not think we are capable of it and even think it is sacrilege to peep into that secret treasure chamber of 'why'. However, the growing realization over years and it is a very personal experience I admit, that the karma of jyotishis, at least dedicated jyotishis includes seeking the why and how jyotish works. Others may feel otherwise, but it is how I feel. It is not my ambition by the way! Please do not misunderstand!! RR , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > Dear brother trivedi ji > > i respect your observation as per Lalkitab principles. In my mail i just tried to make a mention that unlike vedic, in LK it is possible even to see Rahu and Ketu together, in adjacent houses or so without the thumbrule of rahu and ketu in the opposite houses at 180 degrees. > > with best wishes > arjun > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd> wrote: > Respected Arjun Pandit ji, > > Rahu and ketu can be , at the most, in the adjacent houses in the > Varsh phal based on a Janma Kundali and not together in the same > house. > Yes , if a janma kundali is cast by looking at the palm , and not > based on the birth data , then only it is possible that both rahu > and ketu might appear to be together in the same house which in the > Lal Kitab terminology is known as " dono grah ek hi bhav mein bol > rahe honge" > > With respect to all the gurus, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear brother ranjanji > > > > as per bhrigu samhita, gemini is the exalted sign for rahu and > saggitarius is the debilitated sign for rahu. saggitarius is the > exalted sign for ketu and gemini is the debilitated sign. cancer is > the mool trikon for rahu and capricorn is the mool trikon for ketu. > > > > in ravan samhita, it is written that both taurus and gemini are > exalted for rahu and scorpio and saggitarius are debilitated for > rahu. similalry scorpio and saggitarius are exalted for ketu taurus > and gemini are debilitated for ketu. > > > > modern astrologers (in their books) have given virgo as own house > for rahu and pisces as own house for ketu. > > > > you may wish to refer Lalkitab astrology also because only under > Lalkitab astrology, meaning of combination of other planets with > rahu and ketu is given. also in their varshaphal charts, rahu and > ketu can be present in the same house. though these things are not > in line with the vedic astrology, i found the readings based on them > incredibly true. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Please share, if possible: > > > > 1. Which signs you consider as the exaltation and debilitation > signs > > for rahu and ketu? > > > > 2. Classic source if known or even modern source if known, for > this > > information. > > > > 3. Do you use these signs when considering the nodes in general > > considerations (yogas, dashas etc) or in special situations (chara > > dasha, for instance)? > > > > Information provided with examples would be most helpful but I > would > > not mind hearing general and anecdotal views about this topic. > > > > Thanks for your help and time. > > > > Namashkaar, > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 With due deference and admiration towards your illustrious Guruji, Sri K.N Raoji, a modern ascetic and brahmachari of such spiritual lustre that illuminates his gurukool children's lives -- I take those opportunities of failure as Mother teasing me to get up, get off my duff and crawl yet another few steps and Her embrace awaits me. I have trust in Her love. If I really fail and fall, She will pick me up. The very pebble that trips me today, I will playfully toss away when I am in Mother's lap! Enough said! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Shri Rohini ji, > "karma of jyotishis", (at least dedicated jyotishis) includes seeking the why and how jyotish works." > often we come across some kind of mind boggling and brainstorming questions were posed to jyotishis and left in wonderland of planet,trying to explore "why and how". > These roots embedded in the 4bhavas and in tripod(1,5 and 9) puzzle sometimes always some of us while handing over the indications.why and how are most important to be resolved giving rise to taking advantage of trilokchakra devised by sages. > It is undeniable the karma of jyotishi plays a vital role and my Guru Shri K.N.Rao number of times was emphatice when ever accuracy of predictions suffer due to predictions,he feels the helpness of jyotish is due to karmic issues and at that time we have no answers except to bowdown to vidhi,destiny and salute the planets.the mysteries some times remain beyond perceptions due to multiple interactions of karakas,bhavas and signs with dasa lords > krishnan > krishnan > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Panditji, > > Also in some vargas it is possible for the nodes to combine in a > house. I have always been fascinated by this phenomenon. Like most of > jyotish the basis and the goo®dh meaning of such confluence is > something the Sages have chosen to remain silent (in either not > writing about it or choosing not for us to obtain their writings!) > but one of those things that I have a belief that they wanted us to > find out! In fact most of the basis of jyotish I truly feel in my > heart is the karmic quest of those who are drawn to or called to > Jyotish. Many of us shy away from it and do not think we are capable > of it and even think it is sacrilege to peep into that secret > treasure chamber of 'why'. However, the growing realization over > years and it is a very personal experience I admit, that the karma of > jyotishis, at least dedicated jyotishis includes seeking the why and > how jyotish works. > > Others may feel otherwise, but it is how I feel. It is not my > ambition by the way! Please do not misunderstand!! > > RR > > , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > Dear brother trivedi ji > > > > i respect your observation as per Lalkitab principles. In my mail > i just tried to make a mention that unlike vedic, in LK it is > possible even to see Rahu and Ketu together, in adjacent houses or so > without the thumbrule of rahu and ketu in the opposite houses at 180 > degrees. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd> wrote: > > Respected Arjun Pandit ji, > > > > Rahu and ketu can be , at the most, in the adjacent houses in the > > Varsh phal based on a Janma Kundali and not together in the same > > house. > > Yes , if a janma kundali is cast by looking at the palm , and not > > based on the birth data , then only it is possible that both rahu > > and ketu might appear to be together in the same house which in the > > Lal Kitab terminology is known as " dono grah ek hi bhav mein bol > > rahe honge" > > > > With respect to all the gurus, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear brother ranjanji > > > > > > as per bhrigu samhita, gemini is the exalted sign for rahu and > > saggitarius is the debilitated sign for rahu. saggitarius is the > > exalted sign for ketu and gemini is the debilitated sign. cancer > is > > the mool trikon for rahu and capricorn is the mool trikon for ketu. > > > > > > in ravan samhita, it is written that both taurus and gemini are > > exalted for rahu and scorpio and saggitarius are debilitated for > > rahu. similalry scorpio and saggitarius are exalted for ketu > taurus > > and gemini are debilitated for ketu. > > > > > > modern astrologers (in their books) have given virgo as own house > > for rahu and pisces as own house for ketu. > > > > > > you may wish to refer Lalkitab astrology also because only under > > Lalkitab astrology, meaning of combination of other planets with > > rahu and ketu is given. also in their varshaphal charts, rahu and > > ketu can be present in the same house. though these things are not > > in line with the vedic astrology, i found the readings based on > them > > incredibly true. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Please share, if possible: > > > > > > 1. Which signs you consider as the exaltation and debilitation > > signs > > > for rahu and ketu? > > > > > > 2. Classic source if known or even modern source if known, for > > this > > > information. > > > > > > 3. Do you use these signs when considering the nodes in general > > > considerations (yogas, dashas etc) or in special situations > (chara > > > dasha, for instance)? > > > > > > Information provided with examples would be most helpful but I > > would > > > not mind hearing general and anecdotal views about this topic. > > > > > > Thanks for your help and time. > > > > > > Namashkaar, > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it > free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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