Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 dear brother patnaikji in this forum, no one takes any observation or view or opinion or comment pesonally. this is a healthy practice in which every member respect the other and continue reading charts and sharing their knowledge and also seeking and learning a few things as well. my elderly brotherly advise to you is that even if you personally do not like one word or one observation, respond it positively and in a professional matured manner. sometime ago gurmeet singhji took the observation of a few members personally and i requested him to take these criticms positively and later on not only did he save his positive energy but also is contributing in a positive manner which is appreciated by all. ranjanji is a highly learnt astrologer and his writings sometimes are informal and friendly which are liked by the current generation. so, brother patnaikji, please close the saga of mails on reaction to one word and use your energy positively in reading the charts. your readings are excellent and we are all very happy that when we are busy or not able to answer, here is our brother who is contributing a lot. looking forward to your continued contribution in reading charts in the group and with best wishes and regards arjun "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote: Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - misunderstanding does. This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference to him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read some english literature you might recall that people refer to others as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and asking me to mind my language. I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. Frankly, I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to situations :-) RR , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much English > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > wordings. > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences for > very long. > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my language? > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > situations. > > > Due > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > bad > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > kemadruma > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the first > > > place > > > > > but > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > this > > > > > aspect > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > Pages)" > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > You > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > without > > > any > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > taurus) > > > in > > > > > your > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > mercury, > > > rahu, > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > from > > > your > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > however > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > good > > > > > there > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your moon > > is > > > in > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as it > > is > > > > > making > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and holds > > > mercury > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > benefic > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > dosha, > > > it > > > > > > would > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it a > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > time > > > to > > > > > time > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > difficulty > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > has > > > > > nothing > > > > > > to > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > chart? > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > Kemadrum > > > > > yog > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or not? > > if > > > yes, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya for > > not > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > strength, > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > observed, > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > beneficial > > > the > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > rule. > > > so, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > namely > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that > > in > > > the > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an > > > exalted > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > So, > > > the > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > case. > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 > > is > > > when > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as > > > jupiter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > kendra > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > only > > if > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > all > > > kinds > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > so > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > dasa > > > and > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > lord > > > > > with > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > instill > > > some > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > confidencing > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > 6th > > > and > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > pushyami > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > effort.Life > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > requires > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > other > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > necessarily > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > said > > > she > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > everything > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > lives > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this > > most > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > Yog" > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > this > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > way > > in > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > do > > to > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > is > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Panditji, Thanks for this hint -- "and his writings sometimes are informal and friendly which are liked by the current generation." I wouldn't have a clue otherwise that my writing style (which is not at all forced or crafted since I am not a professional writer -- but spontaneous, just as it flows ..) is perhaps not appreciated by older generations! That explains a lot and solves a mystery for me that has been bothering me, recently ;-) Regards, RR , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear brother patnaikji > > in this forum, no one takes any observation or view or opinion or comment pesonally. this is a healthy practice in which every member respect the other and continue reading charts and sharing their knowledge and also seeking and learning a few things as well. > > my elderly brotherly advise to you is that even if you personally do not like one word or one observation, respond it positively and in a professional matured manner. sometime ago gurmeet singhji took the observation of a few members personally and i requested him to take these criticms positively and later on not only did he save his positive energy but also is contributing in a positive manner which is appreciated by all. > > ranjanji is a highly learnt astrologer and his writings sometimes are informal and friendly which are liked by the current generation. so, brother patnaikji, please close the saga of mails on reaction to one word and use your energy positively in reading the charts. your readings are excellent and we are all very happy that when we are busy or not able to answer, here is our brother who is contributing a lot. > > looking forward to your continued contribution in reading charts in the group and with best wishes and regards > arjun > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > misunderstanding does. > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference to > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and asking > me to mind my language. > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. Frankly, > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > situations :-) > > RR > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much English > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > wordings. > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences for > > very long. > > > > regards, > > > > kishore patnaik > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my language? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > situations. > > > > Due > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > > bad > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the first > > > > place > > > > > > but > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > > this > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > > You > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > without > > > > any > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > taurus) > > > > in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > mercury, > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > from > > > > your > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > > however > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > > good > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as it > > > is > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and holds > > > > mercury > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > benefic > > > > from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > dosha, > > > > it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it a > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > > time > > > > to > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > > has > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > chart? > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or not? > > > if > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya for > > > not > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > strength, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > observed, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > beneficial > > > > the > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > > rule. > > > > so, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > namely > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > > is > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > > So, > > > > the > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 > > > is > > > > when > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > kendra > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > only > > > if > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > > all > > > > kinds > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > > so > > > we > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > > dasa > > > > and > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > > lord > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > instill > > > > some > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > > other > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > > said > > > > she > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > > Yog" > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > > way > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > > do > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Thank you brother arjun, I too look forward to learning and sharing in this group and perhaps, the reason that I am involving personally with group may be the reason for reacting to a slur. But theBut I guess I am a kind of person who would call a spade a spade. , uess I am a kind of person who would call a spade a spade. Guess ranjanji could save his (and that of others too) positive energy by being more down to earth. regards, kishore patnaik -- In , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear brother patnaikji > > in this forum, no one takes any observation or view or opinion or comment pesonally. this is a healthy practice in which every member respect the other and continue reading charts and sharing their knowledge and also seeking and learning a few things as well. > > my elderly brotherly advise to you is that even if you personally do not like one word or one observation, respond it positively and in a professional matured manner. sometime ago gurmeet singhji took the observation of a few members personally and i requested him to take these criticms positively and later on not only did he save his positive energy but also is contributing in a positive manner which is appreciated by all. > > ranjanji is a highly learnt astrologer and his writings sometimes are informal and friendly which are liked by the current generation. so, brother patnaikji, please close the saga of mails on reaction to one word and use your energy positively in reading the charts. your readings are excellent and we are all very happy that when we are busy or not able to answer, here is our brother who is contributing a lot. > > looking forward to your continued contribution in reading charts in the group and with best wishes and regards > arjun > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > misunderstanding does. > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference to > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and asking > me to mind my language. > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. Frankly, > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > situations :-) > > RR > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much English > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > wordings. > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences for > > very long. > > > > regards, > > > > kishore patnaik > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my language? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > situations. > > > > Due > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > > bad > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the first > > > > place > > > > > > but > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > > this > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > > You > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > without > > > > any > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > taurus) > > > > in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > mercury, > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > from > > > > your > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > > however > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > > good > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as it > > > is > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and holds > > > > mercury > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > benefic > > > > from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > dosha, > > > > it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it a > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > > time > > > > to > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > > has > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > chart? > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or not? > > > if > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya for > > > not > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > strength, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > observed, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > beneficial > > > > the > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > > rule. > > > > so, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > namely > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > > is > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > > So, > > > > the > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 > > > is > > > > when > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > kendra > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > only > > > if > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > > all > > > > kinds > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > > so > > > we > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > > dasa > > > > and > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > > lord > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > instill > > > > some > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > > other > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > > said > > > > she > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > > Yog" > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > > way > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > > do > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things > > > happening > > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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