Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear RRK, Where is your mercury? and the second lord with any malefic? may be 12th from 2nd? ;-) regards Manoshi Yo, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my language? > > RR > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > debate > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > -------- > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > debate > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > situations. > > Due > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from bad > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > kemadruma > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the first > > place > > > > but > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > this > > > > aspect > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. You > > do > > > > not > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > without > > any > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and taurus) > > in > > > > your > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, mercury, > > rahu, > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra from > > your > > > > > moon, > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > however > > > > > you > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > good > > > > there > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your moon > is > > in > > > > > aries > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as it > is > > > > making > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and holds > > mercury > > > > > the > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > benefic > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra dosha, > > it > > > > > would > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it a > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from time > > to > > > > time > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > difficulty > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This has > > > > nothing > > > > > to > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > confused. > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > discussing > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my chart? > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > Kemadrum > > > > yog > > > > > > in > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or not? > if > > yes, > > > > > > then > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya for > not > > > > > getting > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > strength, > > > > > then > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > observed, > > > > > there > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial > > the > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > rule. > > so, > > > > > the > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely > > > > chandra > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that > in > > the > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an > > exalted > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > So, > > the > > > > > moon > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > case. > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 > is > > when > > > > > he > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as > > jupiter > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > kendra > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only > if > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the > > > > native > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all > > kinds > > > > of > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so > we > > > > have > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > > > > > positively > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > > > > life."All > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa > > and > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > lord > > > > with > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill > > some > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > confidencing > > > > > and > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > > > > regularly > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th > > and > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > pushyami > > > > > that > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > effort.Life > > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > requires > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > odds,life > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > situations > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > other > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > necessarily > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > said > > she > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > thing > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this > most > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" > in > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > lacking > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way > in > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do > to > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things > happening > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I am curious as to why you think so, dear B...j.ee? As always eager to learn ... RR , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote: > > Dear RRK, > > Where is your mercury? and the second lord with any malefic? may be > 12th from 2nd? ;-) > > regards > Manoshi > > > Yo, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > situations. > > > Due > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > bad > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > kemadruma > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > place > > > > > but > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > this > > > > > aspect > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > Pages)" > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > You > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > without > > > any > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > taurus) > > > in > > > > > your > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > mercury, > > > rahu, > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > from > > > your > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > however > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > good > > > > > there > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > is > > > in > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as > it > > is > > > > > making > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > mercury > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > benefic > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > dosha, > > > it > > > > > > would > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it > a > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > time > > > to > > > > > time > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > difficulty > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > has > > > > > nothing > > > > > > to > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > chart? > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > Kemadrum > > > > > yog > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > if > > > yes, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > not > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > strength, > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > observed, > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > beneficial > > > the > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > rule. > > > so, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > namely > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > in > > > the > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has > an > > > exalted > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > So, > > > the > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > case. > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > is > > > when > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog > as > > > jupiter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > kendra > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > only > > if > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > all > > > kinds > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > so > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > dasa > > > and > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > lord > > > > > with > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > instill > > > some > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > confidencing > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > 6th > > > and > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > pushyami > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > effort.Life > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > requires > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > other > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > necessarily > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > said > > > she > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > everything > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > lives > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > most > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > Yog" > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > this > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > way > > in > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > do > > to > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > is > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Manoshi B, Since you did not divulge much or really any of your basis or thought behind this cryptic message, I would refrain from reading a lot into this. However, since on most jyotish lists I find hardly any mention of data or specifics, I am taking this as an opportunity to toot the horn for databases as an absolutely essential tool for rational/empirical astrologers (as opposed to those who work on faith or treat astrology as a religion -- which is fine if that works for them. Please do not treat this as criticism of what you are comfortable with!). So I ran this somewhat unclear combination you gave on astrodatabank. Believe me, it takes longer to write this out than to run the search :-) First screen was to filter out all but the highest quality data, Rodden AA -- giving a subpopulation of 9214 charts 2nd filter was Ruler of 2nd in association/aspect to malefics = 4358 charts 3rd filter -- Ruler of 2nd in 12th from 2nd (or in 1, stated simply) = 367 charts There is a whole spread of individuals there, from sportsmen to astrologers to ceserean births and more, americans, italians, scottish and many other labels. I tried to replicate some of it but not getting a decent pattern, I am afraid. Maybe restate what 'label' you were trying to define astrologically. I dare not hazard a guess from the cryptic message you posted. And after seeing the vast spread of the labels that this has brought out so far, I justify my prudence ;-) Your in research, always! RRK , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote: > > Dear RRK, > > Where is your mercury? and the second lord with any malefic? may be > 12th from 2nd? ;-) > > regards > Manoshi > > > Yo, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > debate > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > situations. > > > Due > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > bad > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > kemadruma > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > place > > > > > but > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > this > > > > > aspect > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > Pages)" > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > You > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > without > > > any > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > taurus) > > > in > > > > > your > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > mercury, > > > rahu, > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > from > > > your > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > however > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > good > > > > > there > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > is > > > in > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as > it > > is > > > > > making > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > mercury > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > benefic > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > dosha, > > > it > > > > > > would > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it > a > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > time > > > to > > > > > time > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > difficulty > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > has > > > > > nothing > > > > > > to > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > chart? > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > Kemadrum > > > > > yog > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > if > > > yes, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > not > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > strength, > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > observed, > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > beneficial > > > the > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > rule. > > > so, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > namely > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > in > > > the > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has > an > > > exalted > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > So, > > > the > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > case. > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > is > > > when > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog > as > > > jupiter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > kendra > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > only > > if > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > all > > > kinds > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > so > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > dasa > > > and > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > lord > > > > > with > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > instill > > > some > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > confidencing > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > 6th > > > and > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > pushyami > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > effort.Life > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > requires > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > other > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > necessarily > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > said > > > she > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > everything > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > lives > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > most > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > Yog" > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > this > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > way > > in > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > do > > to > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > is > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Dear RRK, Sorry I did not visit the group for a while... No specific data...sorry about that, but there are some charts which have shown this clearly. What I gather is 2nd house is the house of speech and its lord in the 12th form itself spoils its character, well if with a malefic then again misunderstood. strong mercury definitely shows good communication skills but 2nd house, its strength and its lord placement has to be seen. I think this is too general, but still...strong saturn in a chart may make a person too harsh in speaking the truth whereas jupiter can put it diplomatically. I am like a speck in comparision to your vast ocean of knowledege, so correct me if I am wrong. regards Manoshi , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Manoshi B, > > Since you did not divulge much or really any of your basis or thought > behind this cryptic message, I would refrain from reading a lot into > this. However, since on most jyotish lists I find hardly any mention > of data or specifics, I am taking this as an opportunity to toot the > horn for databases as an absolutely essential tool for > rational/empirical astrologers (as opposed to those who work on faith > or treat astrology as a religion -- which is fine if that works for > them. Please do not treat this as criticism of what you are > comfortable with!). > > So I ran this somewhat unclear combination you gave on astrodatabank. > Believe me, it takes longer to write this out than to run the > search :-) > First screen was to filter out all but the highest quality data, > Rodden AA -- giving a subpopulation of 9214 charts > 2nd filter was Ruler of 2nd in association/aspect to malefics = 4358 > charts > 3rd filter -- Ruler of 2nd in 12th from 2nd (or in 1, stated simply) > = 367 charts > > There is a whole spread of individuals there, from sportsmen to > astrologers to ceserean births and more, americans, italians, > scottish and many other labels. > > I tried to replicate some of it but not getting a decent pattern, I > am afraid. > > Maybe restate what 'label' you were trying to define astrologically. > I dare not hazard a guess from the cryptic message you posted. And > after seeing the vast spread of the labels that this has brought out > so far, I justify my prudence ;-) > > > Your in research, always! > > RRK > > > > > > , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > Dear RRK, > > > > Where is your mercury? and the second lord with any malefic? may be > > 12th from 2nd? ;-) > > > > regards > > Manoshi > > > > > > Yo, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > > language? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > situations. > > > > Due > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > > bad > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > > first > > > > place > > > > > > but > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > this > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > > You > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > without > > > > any > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > taurus) > > > > in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > mercury, > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > from > > > > your > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > however > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > good > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > > moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as > > it > > > is > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > > holds > > > > mercury > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > benefic > > > > from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > dosha, > > > > it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it > > a > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > > time > > > > to > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > > has > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > --- In , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > chart? > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > > not? > > > if > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > > for > > > not > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > strength, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > observed, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > beneficial > > > > the > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > > rule. > > > > so, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > > this > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > namely > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > > that > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > is > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has > > an > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > So, > > > > the > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > > 1848 > > > is > > > > when > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog > > as > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > kendra > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > only > > > if > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > > all > > > > kinds > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > > so > > > we > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > > got > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > person's > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > > dasa > > > > and > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > lord > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > instill > > > > some > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > > Lingashtakam > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > > other > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > said > > > > she > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > > this > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > > Yog" > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > > way > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > do > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Dear Manoshi Your logic is reasonable and that is how I second guessed you might have arrived at your conclusion. However, 12th from 2nd is the 1st or lagna and that creates a problem. I view lagna as the stage, the limelight zone of sorts. So, the 2nd lord although in 12th from its house will not be that adversely affected in my view. However, you say that you have seen this in some charts (L2 in H1 causing negative effects in speech area etc). I can only contest that if I do a search and find an orator with that combination. However, then I would have to look at other factors and that is a lot of work. On the other hand, You have raised other factors too and I agree that I would take those in consideration too. While a malefic saturn could indeed come across sas harsh, but so can rahu in 2nd, or mars influencing the 2nd. Then there are nakshatras and they add yet another level of complexity if we choose to look at those. I will look some more and see if I can be of assistance in this area ... RR , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote: > > Dear RRK, > > Sorry I did not visit the group for a while... > > No specific data...sorry about that, but there are some charts which > have shown this clearly. What I gather is 2nd house is the house of > speech and its lord in the 12th form itself spoils its character, > well if with a malefic then again misunderstood. strong mercury > definitely shows good communication skills but 2nd house, its > strength and its lord placement has to be seen. I think this is too > general, but still...strong saturn in a chart may make a person too > harsh in speaking the truth whereas jupiter can put it > diplomatically. > > I am like a speck in comparision to your vast ocean of knowledege, > so correct me if I am wrong. > > regards > Manoshi > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Manoshi B, > > > > Since you did not divulge much or really any of your basis or > thought > > behind this cryptic message, I would refrain from reading a lot > into > > this. However, since on most jyotish lists I find hardly any > mention > > of data or specifics, I am taking this as an opportunity to toot > the > > horn for databases as an absolutely essential tool for > > rational/empirical astrologers (as opposed to those who work on > faith > > or treat astrology as a religion -- which is fine if that works > for > > them. Please do not treat this as criticism of what you are > > comfortable with!). > > > > So I ran this somewhat unclear combination you gave on > astrodatabank. > > Believe me, it takes longer to write this out than to run the > > search :-) > > First screen was to filter out all but the highest quality data, > > Rodden AA -- giving a subpopulation of 9214 charts > > 2nd filter was Ruler of 2nd in association/aspect to malefics = > 4358 > > charts > > 3rd filter -- Ruler of 2nd in 12th from 2nd (or in 1, stated > simply) > > = 367 charts > > > > There is a whole spread of individuals there, from sportsmen to > > astrologers to ceserean births and more, americans, italians, > > scottish and many other labels. > > > > I tried to replicate some of it but not getting a decent pattern, > I > > am afraid. > > > > Maybe restate what 'label' you were trying to define > astrologically. > > I dare not hazard a guess from the cryptic message you posted. And > > after seeing the vast spread of the labels that this has brought > out > > so far, I justify my prudence ;-) > > > > > > Your in research, always! > > > > RRK > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RRK, > > > > > > Where is your mercury? and the second lord with any malefic? may > be > > > 12th from 2nd? ;-) > > > > > > regards > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > Yo, "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > > > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing > whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > > > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic > debate > > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in > kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > > > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > > > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it > > > a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in > my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > > > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any > upaya > > > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or > has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you > rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > > > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > > > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has > > > an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > > > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog > > > as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are > in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga > exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what > we > > > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will > get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > > > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of > their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > > > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, > companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of > difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of > birth > > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > > > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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