Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear brother satishji as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. with best wishes arjun R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear friends, Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. Regards, Satish , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > Dear govind, > > > I give your chart as below > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- rahu > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon (libra) > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > gains of land. > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > preclude emotional isolation. > > > Hope this helps. > > kishore patnaik > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > Govind Shah > > 13th Nov,1983 > > 01:30AM > > Ahmedabad. > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > Thanks > > Govind Shah. > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear ranjanji > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, there > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, the > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > being > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > classics. > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > chart > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted moon > in > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the moon > in > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > fled > > France to go in exile. > > > > RR > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > in > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all the > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > even > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > problems in the world. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Friend, > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > lives > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard work.Expectations > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > and > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > most > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and antar > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > good > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > your > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > spirtual > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing and > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > will > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > retrograde > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to be > a > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > will > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > good luck > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > negative. > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she has > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > missing in > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > alone explaining > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > they really > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > but get their > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > discouraging and > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > research hence > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > in my life and > > > > it > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > children, happiness > > > > and/or > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > yog, I have found > > > > out > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > person's life. My > > > > date > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > and place of > > > > birth > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > our astrology > > > > to > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > solve this > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > affecting on my > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > in my > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear astrologers, There are thousands of yogas mentioned in jyotish texts, yogas by moon, sun and lagna. Instead of going devotedly by these texts, an astrologer should find the veracity of these yogas by studying horoscopes with these combinations. I have seen that despite kemdruma yoga being present in a horoscope, if other planets are forming rajyogas or dhanyogas, the native gets all benefits in his life. Studying kundli by moon and yogas by moon have become popular over centuries due to the ease they provide to the astrologer. In absence of correct time of birth, going by moon sign using the first alphabet of name, was the only option earlier. But, whenever the correct time of birth is available, one should always go by ascendent based horoscope study. Some factors which were given importance one generation ago were: Moon sign, pada (iron, silver, copper or gold), samvat and tithi. An astrologer could easily make a lagna chart based on these three data. Tithi clarified the moon sign, the name of the native (if named according to nakshatra) showed his nakshatra and its charan, the pada ( iron,etc) showed the placement of moon in the chart, hence the lagna of birth (but here the native should know whether he was born in day or night) and the samvat was the year of birth. Not many people in India who were born fifty to sixty years ago have correct their date and time of birth with them. Under such conditions, the moon based astrology had become popular. But, now when we have all the correct details and highly improved softwares at our disposal, the lagna is calculated precisely and all other sub-divisional charts (not to be ignored) are also made correctly, the lagna based analysis should be given importance over all other methods. No astrologer was and is perfect. These are my opinions born out of my experiences and experiments with astrology. Regards, Ashutosh - arjun pandit Tuesday, 18 October, 2005 21:47 ambiguity on kemadruma yoga(KDY) Dear brother satishji as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. with best wishes arjun R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear friends, Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. Regards, Satish , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > Dear govind, > > > I give your chart as below > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- rahu > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon (libra) > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > gains of land. > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > preclude emotional isolation. > > > Hope this helps. > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > Govind Shah > > 13th Nov,1983 > > 01:30AM > > Ahmedabad. > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > Thanks > > Govind Shah. > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear ranjanji > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, there > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, the > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > being > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > classics. > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > chart > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted moon > in > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the moon > in > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > fled > > France to go in exile. > > > > RR > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > in > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all the > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > even > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > problems in the world. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Friend, > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > lives > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard work.Expectations > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > and > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > most > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and antar > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > good > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > your > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > spirtual > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing and > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > will > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > retrograde > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to be > a > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > will > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > good luck > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > negative. > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she has > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > missing in > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > alone explaining > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > they really > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > but get their > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > discouraging and > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > research hence > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > in my life and > > > > it > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > children, happiness > > > > and/or > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > yog, I have found > > > > out > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > person's life. My > > > > date > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > and place of > > > > birth > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > our astrology > > > > to > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > solve this > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > affecting on my > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > in my > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? Please > > > > help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu > > > > astrology Vedic > > > > astrology Free > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear Brother Arjun, Trust everything is fine with you. In my humble opinion,Ketu in 2nd house to moon(5th house) can be considered as having Kemadruma effect. To have your valuable opinion,please refer to message 21118for issues raised. Birth details 18-7-1976,15-58 hrs ,16-57N,82-13E. Regards, Satish , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > Dear brother satishji > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. > > with best wishes > arjun > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > rahu > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > (libra) > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > gains of land. > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > 01:30AM > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > there > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > the > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > being > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > classics. > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > chart > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > moon > > in > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > moon > > in > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > > fled > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > > in > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > the > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > even > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > lives > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > work.Expectations > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > > and > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > > most > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > antar > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > good > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > your > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > spirtual > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > and > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > > will > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > retrograde > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > be > > a > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > will > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > good luck > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > negative. > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > has > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > missing in > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > they really > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > but get their > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > research hence > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > in my life and > > > > > it > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > and/or > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > out > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > date > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > and place of > > > > > birth > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > our astrology > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > solve this > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > in my > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear Brother Arjun Due oversight,I forgot to mention,Dispositor of Moon,2nd/5th lord Jupiter is in 7th,kendra to lagna,this shud cancel the kemadruma effect.-Transitwise,Rahu is over Moon. Your experience is much more,hence my request. Thankyou, Satish -- In , "R Satish" <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear Brother Arjun, > > Trust everything is fine with you. > > In my humble opinion,Ketu in 2nd house to moon(5th house) can be > considered as having Kemadruma effect. > > To have your valuable opinion,please refer to message 21118for > issues raised. > > Birth details 18-7-1976,15-58 hrs ,16-57N,82-13E. > > Regards, > > Satish , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > Dear brother satishji > > > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. > one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation > and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is > present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the > cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, > even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in > saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the > native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in > detail for each cancellation clause. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > > rahu > > > > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > > (libra) > > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. > the > > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the > fourth > > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > > gains of land. > > > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > > 01:30AM > > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy > Services. > > > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, > then > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > > there > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > > the > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > > being > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > > classics. > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > > chart > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > > moon > > > in > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > > moon > > > in > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when > he > > > fled > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter > is > > > in > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in > the > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > > the > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > > even > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds > of > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > > lives > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > work.Expectations > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > positively > > > and > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > life."All > > > most > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > > antar > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > > good > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > > your > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > > spirtual > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > > and > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > regularly > > > will > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > > retrograde > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami > that > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > > be > > > a > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > > will > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > > good luck > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other > point - > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > > negative. > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > > has > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > > they really > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > it > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > out > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > date > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > > in my > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 >From your mouth to the ears of all jyotishis :-) Lot of truth in what you wrote! I see inaccuracies and 'rounding up and down' in many birthdata even from recent times, particularly the ones noted down by a busy birthing team in large hospitals (or small ones, for that matter). Another even more confusing variable are so called rectified times. This varies a lot in quality from one to another individual and often people need to be asked if the birthtime they stated was recorded or rectified. Generally birthtimes like 5:37:11 AM are dead giveaways of the rectification! RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear astrologers, > > There are thousands of yogas mentioned in jyotish texts, yogas by moon, sun and lagna. Instead of going devotedly by these texts, an astrologer should find the veracity of these yogas by studying horoscopes with these combinations. > > I have seen that despite kemdruma yoga being present in a horoscope, if other planets are forming rajyogas or dhanyogas, the native gets all benefits in his life. > > > Studying kundli by moon and yogas by moon have become popular over centuries due to the ease they provide to the astrologer. In absence of correct time of birth, going by moon sign using the first alphabet of name, was the only option earlier. But, whenever the correct time of birth is available, one should always go by ascendent based horoscope study. > > Some factors which were given importance one generation ago were: Moon sign, pada (iron, silver, copper or gold), samvat and tithi. An astrologer could easily make a lagna chart based on these three data. > > Tithi clarified the moon sign, the name of the native (if named according to nakshatra) showed his nakshatra and its charan, the pada ( iron,etc) showed the placement of moon in the chart, hence the lagna of birth (but here the native should know whether he was born in day or night) and the samvat was the year of birth. > > Not many people in India who were born fifty to sixty years ago have correct their date and time of birth with them. Under such conditions, the moon based astrology had become popular. But, now when we have all the correct details and highly improved softwares at our disposal, the lagna is calculated precisely and all other sub- divisional charts (not to be ignored) are also made correctly, the lagna based analysis should be given importance over all other methods. > > No astrologer was and is perfect. These are my opinions born out of my experiences and experiments with astrology. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh - > arjun pandit > > Tuesday, 18 October, 2005 21:47 > ambiguity on kemadruma yoga(KDY) > > > Dear brother satishji > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. > > with best wishes > arjun > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > rahu > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > (libra) > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > gains of land. > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > 01:30AM > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > there > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > the > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > being > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > classics. > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > chart > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > moon > > in > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > moon > > in > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > > fled > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > > in > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > the > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > even > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > lives > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > work.Expectations > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > > and > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > > most > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > antar > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > good > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > your > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > spirtual > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > and > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > > will > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > retrograde > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > be > > a > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > will > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > good luck > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > negative. > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > has > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > missing in > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > they really > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > but get their > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > research hence > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > in my life and > > > > > it > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > and/or > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > out > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > date > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > and place of > > > > > birth > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > our astrology > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > solve this > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > in my > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 For this we have to dig deeper than just kemadruma, dear fellow- astrologers (is that better, guys and gals?) 1. As one fellow (astrologer) keeps pointing out on one of the astrology forums (fora for the linguistic purists!) the lunar nodes were not part of Varahamihir's concept of jyotish. I am not sure if Kemadruma is described there, but if that is the case, obviously nodes do not cause cancellations since they do not exist in that construct, that framework of jyotish. 2. BPHS, on the other hand, creates a perception of what some would call an ambiguity. The volumes portray different pictures of the nodes at the beginning of the tomes and a different one towards the end of the tomes, in two distinctly different settings. My article on astrotreasures at www.boloji.com/astro goes into specific details and with specific references, chapter and verse so I would not waste bandwidth here and rehash it all. The different dealing in the same book would be apparent to neutral readers without any personal agenda. 3. Ignoring all that that is staring in one's face, rather directly, as it was in mine a few years ago, there is a large body of individuals or so the impression has been given to me over time -- a large body of individuals who attribute ownerships and moolatrikona and exaltation and debility signs to rahu and ketu and even aspects. Even though they are not pindas (physical planets with body), they are obviously treated as planets by these individuals. I don't see how they can describe and ascribe all the attributes of planets to the lunar nodes and then back out of treating them as planets when it comes to cancellations for kemadruma, for instance? Unless they demonstrate in sufficient number of cases that rahu and ketu though present in kendra from a kemadruma moon did not bring about a cancellation of the kemadruma. Few cautions need to be considered though during that seminal research: There should not be any other planet in the kendra at the same time and there should be sufficient number of cases examined and perhaps thirdly, there should not be an overwhelming contribution from some other exceptionally shubha yoga that would outweigh the kemadruma anyway or even something as trivial as an exceptionally strong and benefic moon, supported otherwise through benefic aspects or otherwise. Once you factor in all these, indeed true kemadruma is reduced to a rarity -- but then we are also deviating from classics and creating 'hedge' funds and "fudge" factors which may be realistic and pragmatic but we better be careful in calling that a study of kemadruma yoga as it is understood or described in classics! We have witnessed time and again how semantics and words though innocent can have different connotations amongst contemporaries and can flare up ugly emotions and ill-will. Even modern words -- and kemadruma certainly not a modern word or symbol or flag. We should be careful with that label is all I am submitting to this august body. RR , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > Dear brother satishji > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. > > with best wishes > arjun > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > rahu > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > (libra) > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > gains of land. > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > 01:30AM > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > there > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > the > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > being > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > classics. > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > chart > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > moon > > in > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > moon > > in > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > > fled > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > > in > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > the > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > even > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > lives > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > work.Expectations > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > > and > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > > most > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > antar > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > good > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > your > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > spirtual > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > and > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > > will > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > retrograde > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > be > > a > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > will > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > good luck > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > negative. > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > has > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > missing in > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > they really > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > but get their > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > research hence > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > in my life and > > > > > it > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > and/or > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > out > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > date > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > and place of > > > > > birth > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > our astrology > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > solve this > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > in my > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear Friend, well said about various perspectives. "There should not be any other planet in the kendra at the same time and there should be sufficient number of cases examined and perhaps thirdly, there should not be an overwhelming contribution from some other exceptionally shubha yoga that would outweigh the kemadruma anyway or even something as trivial(? )as an exceptionally strong and benefic moon, supported otherwise through benefic aspects or otherwise." I am sure the whole things has come out of semantics and the implications of Kema druma yoga and more vital is the application based on some litteral meanings without considering holistic approach is no good way.Such stand taken in the application of KDY shakes confidence and erodes credibility of the subject jyotish.otherwise the dasa system,placement of dasa lord,sign dispositor along with the position two most important luminaries and ascendant have meaningful role in the interpretation of chart without discounting importance of nodes. whether it is 7planets or 8 along with rahu or all nine we need a total and comprehensive situationsitic in the diagnostics and for any prescription to strengthen the initiatives of the natives and plan his life ambitions krishnan "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb wrote: For this we have to dig deeper than just kemadruma, dear fellow- astrologers (is that better, guys and gals?) 1. As one fellow (astrologer) keeps pointing out on one of the astrology forums (fora for the linguistic purists!) the lunar nodes were not part of Varahamihir's concept of jyotish. I am not sure if Kemadruma is described there, but if that is the case, obviously nodes do not cause cancellations since they do not exist in that construct, that framework of jyotish. 2. BPHS, on the other hand, creates a perception of what some would call an ambiguity. The volumes portray different pictures of the nodes at the beginning of the tomes and a different one towards the end of the tomes, in two distinctly different settings. My article on astrotreasures at www.boloji.com/astro goes into specific details and with specific references, chapter and verse so I would not waste bandwidth here and rehash it all. The different dealing in the same book would be apparent to neutral readers without any personal agenda. 3. Ignoring all that that is staring in one's face, rather directly, as it was in mine a few years ago, there is a large body of individuals or so the impression has been given to me over time -- a large body of individuals who attribute ownerships and moolatrikona and exaltation and debility signs to rahu and ketu and even aspects. Even though they are not pindas (physical planets with body), they are obviously treated as planets by these individuals. I don't see how they can describe and ascribe all the attributes of planets to the lunar nodes and then back out of treating them as planets when it comes to cancellations for kemadruma, for instance? Unless they demonstrate in sufficient number of cases that rahu and ketu though present in kendra from a kemadruma moon did not bring about a cancellation of the kemadruma. Few cautions need to be considered though during that seminal research: There should not be any other planet in the kendra at the same time and there should be sufficient number of cases examined and perhaps thirdly, there should not be an overwhelming contribution from some other exceptionally shubha yoga that would outweigh the kemadruma anyway or even something as trivial as an exceptionally strong and benefic moon, supported otherwise through benefic aspects or otherwise. Once you factor in all these, indeed true kemadruma is reduced to a rarity -- but then we are also deviating from classics and creating 'hedge' funds and "fudge" factors which may be realistic and pragmatic but we better be careful in calling that a study of kemadruma yoga as it is understood or described in classics! We have witnessed time and again how semantics and words though innocent can have different connotations amongst contemporaries and can flare up ugly emotions and ill-will. Even modern words -- and kemadruma certainly not a modern word or symbol or flag. We should be careful with that label is all I am submitting to this august body. RR , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > Dear brother satishji > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in detail for each cancellation clause. > > with best wishes > arjun > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > rahu > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > (libra) > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the fourth > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > gains of land. > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > 01:30AM > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, then > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > there > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > the > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > being > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > classics. > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > chart > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > moon > > in > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > moon > > in > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when he > > fled > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter is > > in > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > the > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > even > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > lives > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > work.Expectations > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got positively > > and > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > > most > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > antar > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > good > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > your > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > spirtual > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > and > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > > will > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > retrograde > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami that > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > be > > a > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > will > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > good luck > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > negative. > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > has > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > missing in > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > they really > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > but get their > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > research hence > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > in my life and > > > > > it > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > and/or > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > out > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > date > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > and place of > > > > > birth > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > our astrology > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > solve this > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > in my > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Absolutely Sir --- and I can say with confidence that NO jyotishis worth their salt really ever looks at a chart in a manner in which most of us describe things here due to the sequential nature of this medium. We can only describe one yoga, one item at a time and in many messages. However, when we look at a chart in a horoscopic reading situation, we spot the kemadruma but also note that there may not be a classic cancellation but notice that the moon is in taurus and note that mars and mercury are in capricorn and virgo at the same time and venus is in pisces, or maybe jupiter in virgo aspecting the moon (not a traditional cancellation). Or some other combination that lends some strength to this support-deprived moon. Even though the individual might experience kemadruma, perhaps there will be a significant difference. This individual might have a better understanding, a better tolerance and higher ability to derive from the kemadruma experience that which another individual with no support to the exalted but kemadruma moon might not be blessed to bring into this reality! This is the danger of posting on critical fora. Most jyotishis cannot really capture their entire deductive logic in a message or even in an article written on a single chart. All that can be expressed is a fragment, and only the fragment that is within the reach of the conscious and aware mind. Who really knows what else is going on when we truly succumb to the task of reading the patterns of nature through symbols such as astrological. Humbly submitted to this august body ... RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Friend, > well said about various perspectives. > "There should not be any other planet in the kendra at the same time and there should be sufficient number of cases examined and perhaps thirdly, there should not be an overwhelming contribution from some other exceptionally shubha yoga that would outweigh the kemadruma anyway or even something as trivial(? )as an exceptionally strong and benefic moon, supported otherwise through benefic aspects or otherwise." > I am sure the whole things has come out of semantics and the implications of Kema druma yoga and more vital is the application based on some litteral meanings without considering holistic approach is no good way.Such stand taken in the application of KDY shakes confidence and erodes credibility of the subject jyotish.otherwise the dasa system,placement of dasa lord,sign dispositor along with the position two most important luminaries and ascendant have meaningful role in the interpretation of chart without discounting importance of nodes. > whether it is 7planets or 8 along with rahu or all nine we need a total and comprehensive situationsitic in the diagnostics and for any prescription to strengthen the initiatives of the natives and plan his life ambitions > krishnan > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > For this we have to dig deeper than just kemadruma, dear fellow- > astrologers (is that better, guys and gals?) > > 1. As one fellow (astrologer) keeps pointing out on one of the > astrology forums (fora for the linguistic purists!) the lunar nodes > were not part of Varahamihir's concept of jyotish. I am not sure if > Kemadruma is described there, but if that is the case, obviously > nodes do not cause cancellations since they do not exist in that > construct, that framework of jyotish. > > 2. BPHS, on the other hand, creates a perception of what some would > call an ambiguity. The volumes portray different pictures of the > nodes at the beginning of the tomes and a different one towards the > end of the tomes, in two distinctly different settings. My article on > astrotreasures at www.boloji.com/astro goes into specific details and > with specific references, chapter and verse so I would not waste > bandwidth here and rehash it all. The different dealing in the same > book would be apparent to neutral readers without any personal agenda. > > 3. Ignoring all that that is staring in one's face, rather directly, > as it was in mine a few years ago, there is a large body of > individuals or so the impression has been given to me over time -- a > large body of individuals who attribute ownerships and moolatrikona > and exaltation and debility signs to rahu and ketu and even aspects. > Even though they are not pindas (physical planets with body), they > are obviously treated as planets by these individuals. I don't see > how they can describe and ascribe all the attributes of planets to > the lunar nodes and then back out of treating them as planets when it > comes to cancellations for kemadruma, for instance? Unless they > demonstrate in sufficient number of cases that rahu and ketu though > present in kendra from a kemadruma moon did not bring about a > cancellation of the kemadruma. Few cautions need to be considered > though during that seminal research: There should not be any other > planet in the kendra at the same time and there should be sufficient > number of cases examined and perhaps thirdly, there should not be an > overwhelming contribution from some other exceptionally shubha yoga > that would outweigh the kemadruma anyway or even something as trivial > as an exceptionally strong and benefic moon, supported otherwise > through benefic aspects or otherwise. > > Once you factor in all these, indeed true kemadruma is reduced to a > rarity -- but then we are also deviating from classics and > creating 'hedge' funds and "fudge" factors which may be realistic and > pragmatic but we better be careful in calling that a study of > kemadruma yoga as it is understood or described in classics! We have > witnessed time and again how semantics and words though innocent can > have different connotations amongst contemporaries and can flare up > ugly emotions and ill-will. Even modern words -- and kemadruma > certainly not a modern word or symbol or flag. We should be careful > with that label is all I am submitting to this august body. > > RR > > > > , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > Dear brother satishji > > > > as you rightly observed, there is some ambiguity in the books. one > book says rahu and ketu do not form the planets of cancellation and > in the B.V.Raman's example of a full KDY, rahu or ketu is present > with moon. another book says sun is also excluded from the > cancellation clauses i.e. if sun is with moon or sun is in kendra, > even then KDY exist. However, all literatures are unanimous in > saying that if cancellation of this KDY happens, it is good for the > native and as to how good it is for the native is elucidated in > detail for each cancellation clause. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Very good clarification on Kemadruma so far. Need minor > > clarification,Is Rahu,Ketu also considered as a planet for this > > yoga.There is some ambiguity in literature. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear govind, > > > > > > > > > I give your chart as below > > > > > > Lagn- leo 2-mars & venus 3- sun& sat 4-mercy, jup&ketu 6-moon 10- > > rahu > > > > > > > > > from the above, it can be noticed that a quadrant from moon > > (libra) > > > is not vacant and hence, full kemadruma is not realised. > > > > > > on the other hand, there are many good things in the kundali. the > > > ninth and eighth lords are aspecting their own houses. the > fourth > > > house is resided by 11th lord and 5th lord, thereby foretelling > > > gains of land. > > > > > > however, the moon is extremely isolated and hence, we can not > > > preclude emotional isolation. > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Govind Shah ]]] > > > > > > > > > > > > <govind_shah> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > Is there Kemdrumyoga in my chart also. > > > > > > > > Govind Shah > > > > 13th Nov,1983 > > > > 01:30AM > > > > Ahmedabad. > > > > > > > > I am computer engineer , working with Tata Consultancy Services. > > > > > > > > if required more info plz let me know so i can give u. > > > > > > > > Request you to help me out. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Govind Shah. > > > > > > > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has strength, > then > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly observed, > > there > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how beneficial the > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation rule. so, > > the > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this yoga. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, namely chandra > > > being > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that in the > > > classics. > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state is in the > > > chart > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an exalted > > moon > > > in > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. So, the > > moon > > > in > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this case. > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 is when > he > > > fled > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as jupiter > is > > > in > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in kendra in the > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist only if all > > the > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, the native > > > even > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face all kinds of > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and so we have > > > lives > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > work.Expectations > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > positively > > > and > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's life."All > > > most > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha dasa and > > antar > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi lord with > > > good > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get moderated.In > > > your > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will instill some > > > spirtual > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self confidencing > > and > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam regularly > > > will > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in 6th and > > > retrograde > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of pushyami > that > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of effort.Life to > > be > > > a > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds requires > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out odds,life > > > will > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some situations > > > > > good luck > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the other point - > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself necessarily > > > negative. > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had said she > > has > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad nizamudeen > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single thing > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely everything > > > > > > they really > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their lives > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at impassionate > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this most > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum Yog" in > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing lacking > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > it > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about this > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > out > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > date > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is 23:07 > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any way in > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can do to > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog is > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > horoscopes? Is there any other bad things happening > > > > > > in my > > > > > > horoscopes? > > > > > > > How does my horoscopes overall look like? 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