Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Mr Kishore Patnaik, I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk of fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even between the best of people;but the good people being the good for the good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a highly respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is really commendable.He's done equally great service through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with sarcastic barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small children and look for helping them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward for my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i really felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there may be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in fact many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to know that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well intentioned and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to ridicule them or lookdown on them. So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and learning I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as well as for your personal progress. Warm regards Srinivas Murthy kishore mohan <kishore_future wrote: I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the person- either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for these two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, we do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another member so very casually. words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship you share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with a group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my fellow members" I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are behaving defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. kishore patnaik , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > misunderstanding does. > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference to > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and asking > me to mind my language. > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. Frankly, > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > situations :-) > > RR > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much English > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > wordings. > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences for > > very long. > > > > regards, > > > > kishore patnaik > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my language? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an *academic* > > > > debate > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is cancelled. > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > situations. > > > > Due > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers from > > bad > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the first > > > > place > > > > > > but > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate on > > > this > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused you. > > You > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > without > > > > any > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > taurus) > > > > in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > mercury, > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > from > > > > your > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong cancellation; > > > > however > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is specially > > > good > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus as it > > > is > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and holds > > > > mercury > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > benefic > > > > from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > dosha, > > > > it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce it a > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally from > > time > > > > to > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. This > > has > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting more > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you are > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > chart? > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" cancel > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or not? > > > if > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya for > > > not > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > strength, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > observed, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > beneficial > > > > the > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each cancellation > > > rule. > > > > so, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of this > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > namely > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing that > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal state > > is > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He has an > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not applying. > > > So, > > > > the > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in this > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February 1848 > > > is > > > > when > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma yog as > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > kendra > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > only > > > if > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any chart, > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and face > > all > > > > kinds > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon and > > so > > > we > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we got > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in person's > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results maha > > dasa > > > > and > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and rasi > > > lord > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > instill > > > > some > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting Lingashtakam > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars in > > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra of > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight out > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in some > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to the > > > other > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone had > > > said > > > > she > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mohammad > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a single > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and less > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on this > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " Kemdrum > > Yog" > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one thing > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet about > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth is > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there any > > way > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I can > > do > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this yog > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Dear Friends , The ongoing spat between two worthy individuals,both wellversed in astrology,means even in relationships there can be "Kemadruma." Life is too short to harbor misgivings,believe in the exercise of forgiveness.We need to discuus important issues viz Kemadruma by discussing "live" cases.This will focus the collective energy to fruitful discussions. 2.Having said so much on KD,can the experts upload in the file section the collective wisdom of the knowledgeable ,which can be used for posterity.The new members would be ever grateful to you ,such info is rarely available in consolidated fashion. Best wishes, Satish , srinivasa murthy adavi <smadavi> wrote: > > Mr Kishore Patnaik, > I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk of fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even between the best of people;but the good people being the good for the good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a highly respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is really commendable.He's done equally great service through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with sarcastic barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small children and look for helping > them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward for my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i really felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there may be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in fact many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to know that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well intentioned and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to > ridicule them or lookdown on them. > So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and learning I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as well as for your personal progress. > Warm regards > Srinivas Murthy > > kishore mohan <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the person- > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for these > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, we > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another > member so very casually. > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship you > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with a > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my > fellow members" > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are behaving > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > kishore patnaik > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > misunderstanding does. > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference > to > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > asking > > me to mind my language. > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > Frankly, > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > situations :-) > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > English > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > wordings. > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences > for > > > very long. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > --- In , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I have nothig personal agaist mr ranjan. (I dont even know him) But I would have been happy, rather touched, if he had displayed humility instead of trying to be defiant. I understand your relationships and the members spriging to his instantaneous defence. I am new here and he is old in the group. But a wrong can not be termed as right just because it is committed by a generally "right" person or someone who is near and dear to you. It certainly left a bad taste in my mouth. My versatality, status in society etc have nothig to do with the barb. regards, kishore patnaik , srinivasa murthy adavi <smadavi> wrote: > > Mr Kishore Patnaik, > I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk of fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even between the best of people;but the good people being the good for the good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a highly respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is really commendable.He's done equally great service through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with sarcastic barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small children and look for helping > them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward for my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i really felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there may be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in fact many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to know that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well intentioned and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to > ridicule them or lookdown on them. > So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and learning I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as well as for your personal progress. > Warm regards > Srinivas Murthy > > kishore mohan <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the person- > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for these > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, we > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another > member so very casually. > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship you > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with a > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my > fellow members" > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are behaving > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > kishore patnaik > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > misunderstanding does. > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference > to > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > asking > > me to mind my language. > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > Frankly, > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > situations :-) > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > English > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > wordings. > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences > for > > > very long. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > --- In , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think you are trying to bully me and overreacting. I am not even going to pay attention to your postings on this topic anymore. RR , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the person- > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for these > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, we > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another > member so very casually. > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship you > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with a > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my > fellow members" > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are behaving > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > kishore patnaik > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > misunderstanding does. > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference > to > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > asking > > me to mind my language. > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > Frankly, > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > situations :-) > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > English > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > wordings. > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences > for > > > very long. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Thank you Srinivas ji, I am truly grateful to Almighty that IT chose to help you through my words and astrology and I am sincerely sorry that my 'barbs' hopefully unintentionally tossed at you, gave you pain. For that my apologies. RR , srinivasa murthy adavi <smadavi> wrote: > > Mr Kishore Patnaik, > I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk of fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even between the best of people;but the good people being the good for the good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a highly respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is really commendable.He's done equally great service through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with sarcastic barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small children and look for helping > them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward for my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i really felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there may be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in fact many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to know that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well intentioned and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to > ridicule them or lookdown on them. > So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and learning I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as well as for your personal progress. > Warm regards > Srinivas Murthy > > kishore mohan <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the person- > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for these > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, we > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another > member so very casually. > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship you > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with a > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my > fellow members" > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are behaving > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > kishore patnaik > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > misunderstanding does. > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a reference > to > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have read > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to others > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since nothing > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > asking > > me to mind my language. > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > Frankly, > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > situations :-) > > > > RR > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > English > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > wordings. > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different matter > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination sciences > for > > > very long. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > language? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > *academic* > > > > > debate > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > cancelled. > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > situations. > > > > > Due > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > from > > > bad > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing whether > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > first > > > > > place > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic debate > on > > > > this > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > you. > > > You > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is placed > > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > taurus) > > > > > in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > mercury, > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in kendra > > > from > > > > > your > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > cancellation; > > > > > however > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > specially > > > > good > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since your > moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > as it > > > > is > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > holds > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a natural > > > > benefic > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has kendra > > > dosha, > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely reduce > it a > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > This > > > has > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > more > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > are > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in my > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > cancel > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli or > not? > > > > if > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any upaya > for > > > > not > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or has > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you rightly > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > beneficial > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > cancellation > > > > rule. > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation of > this > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > namely > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall seeing > that > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > state > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > has an > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > applying. > > > > So, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. February > 1848 > > > > is > > > > > when > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > yog as > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are in > > > > kendra > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga exist > > > only > > > > if > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > chart, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > face > > > all > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > and > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% hard > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what we > got > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > person's > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > maha > > > dasa > > > > > and > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > rasi > > > > lord > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will get > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > instill > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting self > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > in > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > of > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to fight > out > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > some > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > the > > > > other > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom someone > had > > > > said > > > > > she > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > mohammad > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > single > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental or > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of their > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier and > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark on > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure on > this > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > Kemdrum > > > Yog" > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > thing > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > about > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of difficulties > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of birth > is > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > any > > > way > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya I > can > > > do > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad this > yog > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Mr. Kishore Patnaik You have vitiated the entire atmosphere of the group. If you are here to prove that you know more than every body else , well so be it. You are not the first one we have encountered. There have been quite a few in the past who soon faded away in anonymity. If you are here to help the needy and share the knowledge than humility and willing suspension of ego would be admired most. Sincerely, Varun Trivedi , "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > I have nothig personal agaist mr ranjan. (I dont even know him) But I > would have been happy, rather touched, if he had displayed humility > instead of trying to be defiant. > > I understand your relationships and the members spriging to his > instantaneous defence. I am new here and he is old in the group. > > But a wrong can not be termed as right just because it is committed > by a generally "right" person or someone who is near and dear to > you. > > It certainly left a bad taste in my mouth. My versatality, status in > society etc have nothig to do with the barb. > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > > > > , srinivasa murthy adavi > <smadavi> wrote: > > > > Mr Kishore Patnaik, > > I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk of > fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even > between the best of people;but the good people being the good for the > good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it > somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a highly > respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder > brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport > they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many > commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is > really commendable.He's done equally great service > through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint > hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for > help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro > analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with sarcastic > barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small > children and look for helping > > them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward for > my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've > started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i really > felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there may > be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well > intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be > knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in fact > many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are > interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i > corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to know > that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along > with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the > words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of > effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well intentioned > and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to > > ridicule them or lookdown on them. > > So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and learning > I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving > and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as > well as for your personal progress. > > Warm regards > > Srinivas Murthy > > > > kishore mohan <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used the > > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the > person- > > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation of > > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for > these > > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. Certainly, > we > > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to another > > member so very casually. > > > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal relationship > you > > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined with > a > > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as in "my > > fellow members" > > > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are > behaving > > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > > misunderstanding does. > > > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a > reference > > to > > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as saying, > > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have > read > > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to > others > > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If someone > > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" or "dirty > > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since > nothing > > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > > asking > > > me to mind my language. > > > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > > Frankly, > > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > > situations :-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > > English > > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to colleague > > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow was > > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret your > > > > wordings. > > > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different > matter > > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination > sciences > > for > > > > very long. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > > language? > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > Pages)" > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > *academic* > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha > sarathy" > > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real life > > > > > situations. > > > > > > Due > > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native recovers > > from > > > > bad > > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore > mohan" > > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing > whether > > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it is > > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in the > > first > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic > debate > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > > (Crystal > > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really confused > > you. > > > > You > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is > placed > > > > > without > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces and > > > > taurus) > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, sun, > > > > mercury, > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in > kendra > > > > from > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > > cancellation; > > > > > > however > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > > specially > > > > > good > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since > your > > moon > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another plus > > as it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house and > > holds > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a > natural > > > > > benefic > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has > kendra > > > > dosha, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely > reduce > > it a > > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability mentally > > from > > > > time > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will > have > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp manner. > > This > > > > has > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have kemadruma > > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am getting > > more > > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when you > > are > > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" in > my > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > > cancel > > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my kundli > or > > not? > > > > > if > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any > upaya > > for > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted or > has > > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you > rightly > > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > > beneficial > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > > cancellation > > > > > rule. > > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for cancellation > of > > this > > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another cancellation, > > > > namely > > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall > seeing > > that > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of royal > > state > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). He > > has an > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > > applying. > > > > > So, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, in > > this > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. > February > > 1848 > > > > > is > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO kemadruma > > yog as > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets are > in > > > > > kendra > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also aspecting > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga > exist > > > > only > > > > > if > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either lagna > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > > chart, > > > > the > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra and > > face > > > > all > > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very uncommon > > and > > > > so > > > > > we > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% > hard > > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy what > we > > got > > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > person's > > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give results > > maha > > > > dasa > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord and > > rasi > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated will > get > > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it will > > > > instill > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting > self > > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with mars > > in > > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own nakshtra > > of > > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out of > > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all odds > > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to > fight > > out > > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise in > > some > > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no to > > the > > > > > other > > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by itself > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom > someone > > had > > > > > said > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > mohammad > > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least a > > single > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, mental > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have absolutely > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of > their > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier > and > > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to embark > on > > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" procedure > on > > this > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > > Kemdrum > > > > Yog" > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > > thing > > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, > companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > > about > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of > difficulties > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of > birth > > is > > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I am > > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is there > > any > > > > way > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any upayaya > I > > can > > > > do > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad > this > > yog > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 mr varun trivedi, I am appalled that you have failed to see the grouse. I objected to the casual reference by mr ranjan to me. The reference has absolutely has got nothig to do with who is more senior, or learned etc.(YOu would notice that there was no academic discussion or debate between us two. Then where is the question of proving a point?) Per se, it is wrong to use such words and thats it- it is a wrong, no matter who said it agaist who. period. Hence, I deanded the rectification in the capacity of a 'fellow'member and said seniority, generally being nice or versatality can not justify the mistake. That the referece is a barb is towards another member and should be condemened no matter who is who. If I were to be in the place of mr ranja, I would have quickly apologised whoever may be the other person. Similiarly, I would have condemned the act even if it is by a close fried of mine. I do not believe in justifications. But, instead of accepting that such casual references are demeaning, the member has adopted a defiant stand. "vidya dadati vinayam" Knowledge and erudition brings on humility and the wise treat the humility as the true indicator of one's authencity over the sastras. The true humility lies in knowing what is right and what is wrong- the vichakshna. This can only be attained through Vivechana- the true introspection (of one self) Thus, if one wants to be considered as the Buddhiwan(an intellect), one needs to first improve upon one's introspection. I hope God bestows such capcity of introspection on the erring. Btw, I am not here to prove anythig. Probably, it may be due to the fact that I dont need to or perhaps, it may be due to that there is nothig to prove here. Understandably, I help others as much as my ability and time permits, especially if it leads to more learnig for me. kishore patnaik. , "varun_trvd" <_trvd> wrote: > > Mr. Kishore Patnaik > > You have vitiated the entire atmosphere of the group. If you are > here to prove that you know more than every body else , well so be > it. You are not the first one we have encountered. There have been > quite a few in the past who soon faded away in anonymity. > If you are here to help the needy and share the knowledge than > humility and willing suspension of ego would be admired most. > > > Sincerely, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > I have nothig personal agaist mr ranjan. (I dont even know him) > But I > > would have been happy, rather touched, if he had displayed > humility > > instead of trying to be defiant. > > > > I understand your relationships and the members spriging to his > > instantaneous defence. I am new here and he is old in the group. > > > > But a wrong can not be termed as right just because it is > committed > > by a generally "right" person or someone who is near and dear to > > you. > > > > It certainly left a bad taste in my mouth. My versatality, status > in > > society etc have nothig to do with the barb. > > > > regards, > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , srinivasa murthy adavi > > <smadavi> wrote: > > > > > > Mr Kishore Patnaik, > > > I can understand your justified grievance.But sometimes by quirk > of > > fate or for some other reasons ,small differences crop up even > > between the best of people;but the good people being the good for > the > > good will make it a point not to drag the issue and stop it > > somewhere.Why i'm telling you is that Sri Rohini Ranjanji is a > highly > > respectable figure and in fact he is tretaed as an elder > > brother/father/guru by many depending upon the age and the rapport > > they've with him.The contributions that he made by writing so many > > commentaries in simple understandable language in crystal pages is > > really commendable.He's done equally great service > > through 'atroexpert' domain ,and removed(or rather given pateint > > hearing,reading) to many peole.Even when i first aproached him for > > help(5 yrs back) though he worded well but he gave no astro > > analysis and yet he gave a gentle mail interspersed with > sarcastic > > barbs and at the end he gave me advise to spend time with small > > children and look for helping > > > them by way of tutoring free etc etc while looking forward > for > > my good times.At first i too got irritated ,but unknowingl i've > > started to follow his advise(being a liker of children) and i > really > > felt great relief from his well intentioned advise.Though there > may > > be so many unresolved issues in my personal life,but his well > > intentioned (certainly based on astro reading,though i may not be > > knowing then) mail has lifted my spirits and from then on i(in > fact > > many) started to enjoy his gentle humourous barbs etc that are > > interspersed along in his erudite scholarship writings.Later on i > > corelated with my many relatives/friends behaviour and came to > know > > that one should not judge people based on how they talk ,but along > > with it the deeds and intentions are more important than the > > words.And Sri RohiniRanjanJi belong certainly to that class of > > effectionate humanbeings and all his humour etc are well > intentioned > > and they're meant to spiceup the spirits of individuals ,but not to > > > ridicule them or lookdown on them. > > > So kind request to understand .Given your scholarship and > learning > > I may not levelup to give such an advise,but as friend i'm giving > > and wish you sincerely for fruitful contribution for this forum as > > well as for your personal progress. > > > Warm regards > > > Srinivas Murthy > > > > > > kishore mohan <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > I am really surprised at your reaction. The way you have used > the > > > word 'fellow' is used only when you have no formality with the > > person- > > > either he is complete strager, with who you have no obligation > of > > > respect or with who you share an informal relationship. But for > > these > > > two occassins, usages like these are considered slang. > Certainly, > > we > > > do not share an informal relationship, nor can you refer to > another > > > member so very casually. > > > > > > words like my dear fellow only indicate the informal > relationship > > you > > > share with the addressed. On the other hand, fellow conjoined > with > > a > > > group of people indicates the common relatioship, such as > in "my > > > fellow members" > > > > > > I am certainly appalled that instead of sayig sorry, you are > > behaving > > > defiant, which does not go with the character of erudition. > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > Pages)" > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Seniority or how well placed one is does not matter here - > > > > misunderstanding does. > > > > > > > > This is the first time I am seeing someone (mis)taking a > > reference > > > to > > > > him as a 'fellow' as a personal insult! Fellow is just as > saying, > > > > "some individual" or 'some person' or some member. If you have > > read > > > > some english literature you might recall that people refer to > > others > > > > as , "My dear fellow". Fellow is not at all derogatory. If > someone > > > > uses an adjective with it, such as that "stupid fellow" > or "dirty > > > > fellow", then that would be insulting and derogatory. Since > > nothing > > > > like that was mentioned, I still fail to see your reaction and > > > asking > > > > me to mind my language. > > > > > > > > I hope you regret your choice of words and your overreaction. > > > Frankly, > > > > I am a bit amused with the way some of the jyotishis react to > > > > situations :-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I understand you are a senior person. I dont know how much > > > English > > > > > you know, but using slang, especially with regard to > colleague > > > > > members, is not really appreicated. You said " as a fellow > was > > > > > suggesting" and that was very demeaning. I hope you regret > your > > > > > wordings. > > > > > > > > > > I am new here and I hope I get welcomed> It is a different > > matter > > > > > that I too am senior, wellplaced and studying Divination > > sciences > > > for > > > > > very long. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > , "Rohini (Crystal > > Pages)" > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Assuming you are talking to me, what is the matter with my > > > language? > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore mohan" > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > > *academic* > > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please mind your language. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > (Crystal > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Partha for saving me from having to enter an > > > *academic* > > > > > > > debate > > > > > > > > as one fellow was suggesting here ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "V.Partha > > sarathy" > > > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma does exist here in this case and it is > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > Cancellation works over a period of time in real > life > > > > > > situations. > > > > > > > Due > > > > > > > > > to job or some influential person, the native > recovers > > > from > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > situations in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore > > mohan" > > > > > > > > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GRaymoon is confused because she is not knowing > > whether > > > > > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > does not exist at all or kemadruma exists but it > is > > > > > > cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arjun pandit has said kemadruma does not exist in > the > > > first > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > you are saying that it is cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, may be you and arjun should have an academic > > debate > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > > > in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohini > > > (Crystal > > > > > > > Pages)" > > > > > > > > > > <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Graymoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like all this discussion has really > confused > > > you. > > > > > You > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > have kemadruma yoga. Even though your moon is > > placed > > > > > > without > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > planet in the rashi before and after it (pisces > and > > > > > taurus) > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case, the yoga is cancelled because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) You have five planets in kendra from moon, > sun, > > > > > mercury, > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > > > ketu and mars. > > > > > > > > > > > b) If it was just the nodes (rahu and ketu) in > > kendra > > > > > from > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > moon, > > > > > > > > > > > I would not have considered it as a strong > > > cancellation; > > > > > > > however > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > have exalted mars in kendra from moon. Mars is > > > specially > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > because it is also the lord of the rashi, since > > your > > > moon > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > aries > > > > > > > > > > > rashi. Mars also aspects moon which is another > plus > > > as it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > connection with and supporting the moon. > > > > > > > > > > > c)The kendra from moon falls in the fifth house > and > > > holds > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > lord of lagna which is aspected by jupiter a > > natural > > > > > > benefic > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > lagna. Even if some will say that jupiter has > > kendra > > > > > dosha, > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > not take away all of its beneficience, merely > > reduce > > > it a > > > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would however, feel some instability > mentally > > > from > > > > > time > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > and will experience anxiety and doubts and will > > have > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > > deciding things in a very clear and crisp > manner. > > > This > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > do with kemadruma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, in my opinion you do not have > kemadruma > > > > > > > dosha/yoga, > > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry with all these discussion,I am > getting > > > more > > > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > > > > > you please refer my nick name "graymoon" when > you > > > are > > > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > > > > > about "Kemadrum Yog" in my charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think as per Arjun- I have No Kemadrum Yog" > in > > my > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > As far Rohini (Crystal Pages)- Other "things" > > > cancel > > > > > > > Kemadrum > > > > > > > > > yog > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my kundli. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other people say other things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain..do I have this yog in my > kundli > > or > > > not? > > > > > > if > > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the outcome of this yog? Is there any > > upaya > > > for > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > negative effect of this yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Graymoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , arjun > > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear ranjanji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > classics also says that if moon is exalted > or > > has > > > > > > > strength, > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > also kemadruma yoga does not exist. as you > > rightly > > > > > > > observed, > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > are detailed comprehensive explanations of how > > > > > beneficial > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > cancellation of this yoga is under each > > > cancellation > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > so, > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > native graymoon shall be happy for > cancellation > > of > > > this > > > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some individuals also add another > cancellation, > > > > > namely > > > > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra from ascendant. I do not recall > > seeing > > > that > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways an example of such a reversal of > royal > > > state > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Citizen King of France (Louis Philippe). > He > > > has an > > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 7th house with other cancellations not > > > applying. > > > > > > So, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra from ascendant could be questionable, > in > > > this > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Oct 1773, 9:40 AM LMT, Paris, France. > > February > > > 1848 > > > > > > is > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > fled > > > > > > > > > > > > > France to go in exile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > arjun > > > pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart of yours, there is NO > kemadruma > > > yog as > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > kendra in the lagna chart and four planets > are > > in > > > > > > kendra > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > chandra lagna. Besides Mars is also > aspecting > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per jyotish texts, full kemadruma yoga > > exist > > > > > only > > > > > > if > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > following conditions are met: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. no planet on either side of moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. no planet along with moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. no planet in kendra in lagna chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. no planet in kendra in chandra lagna > chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. no planet aspecting moon in either > lagna > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a full kemadruma yoga exist in any > > > chart, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > if born to a king, would become a daridra > and > > > face > > > > > all > > > > > > > kinds > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arjun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Ranjan said this yoga is not very > uncommon > > > and > > > > > so > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > in ratio of 40 percent success rate and 60% > > hard > > > > > > > > > > > work.Expectations > > > > > > > > > > > > > materialise at late stages.Let's be happy > what > > we > > > got > > > > > > > > > > positively > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > be determind for what we want and get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "this yog can cause lot of difficulties in > > > person's > > > > > > > > > life."All > > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas enunciated in jyotish will give > results > > > maha > > > > > dasa > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > antar > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa periods.where as if the ascendant lord > and > > > rasi > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsas the malefic results anticipated > will > > get > > > > > > > > > moderated.In > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case disposition of jupiter is good and it > will > > > > > instill > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > spirtual > > > > > > > > > > > > > approach in life which is good for boosting > > self > > > > > > > confidencing > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular prayers to Aditya and reciting > > > Lingashtakam > > > > > > > > > regularly > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > promote harmony and reduce eveil effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashna lagna only indicates health with > mars > > > in > > > > > 6th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting saturn posited in 9th in own > nakshtra > > > of > > > > > > > pushyami > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > makes you to work hard and enjoy success out > of > > > > > > > effort.Life > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge and make one to withstand to all > odds > > > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthening of both mars and saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with your mind set on Almighty's prop to > > fight > > > out > > > > > > > > > odds,life > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > be smooth even if some abrupt events arise > in > > > some > > > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to the first point (cancellation), no > to > > > the > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > point - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruma is not all that rare or by > itself > > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I asked the querrent, whom > > someone > > > had > > > > > > said > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kemadruma, to do the exploration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > mohammad > > > > > > > > > nizamudeen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <faghaimni> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kemadruva yoga will be nullified if any > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies in any kendra to the moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this yoga makes one dharidhra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my experience it is very rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the following investigation, > dear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Find a few persons who have at least > a > > > single > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their lives whether it is physical, > mental > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual, at work, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home or elsewhere. Do all of these have > > > kemadruma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone explaining > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'one thing missing'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Find a few persons who have > absolutely > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted. Don't go by your perceptions of > > their > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > honest views and statements to that > effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then report back please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, start with (a) -- it will be easier > > and > > > less > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discouraging and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will become better equipped to > embark > > on > > > (b). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with kemadruma are really good at > > > > > > impassionate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > research hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am suggesting this "remedial" > procedure > > on > > > this > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > auspicious day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , "graymoon44" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <graymoon44> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have told by someone that I have " > > > Kemdrum > > > > > Yog" > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my horoscopes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which means there will be at least one > > > thing > > > > > > lacking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my life and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be anything from money, > > companionship, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children, happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > success. After my research on internet > > > about > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yog, I have found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that this yog can cause lot of > > difficulties > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's life. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth is January 14, 1981, time of > > birth > > > is > > > > > > 23:07 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and place of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is Surat-Gujarat. I am a female and I > am > > > single. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need some help about this yog, is > there > > > any > > > > > way > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this problem? Is there any > upayaya > > I > > > can > > > > > do > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. I would like to know how bad > > this > > > yog > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affecting on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? 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