Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 I am sorry but I fail to understand this! How someone who can watch someone's gait and posture gets called an astrologer? There was another post that talked about what essentially are psychics and seers and so on, but they are not using astrology and hence are not astrologers, nor do they claim to be. I have heard of Mr. KN Rao talking about jyotishmati nadi and how some astrologers turned into seers and did not need astrology or astrologic or a chart any longer. Or Mr. Karve who sees individuals and tells their lagna etc. Or RG Rao who wrote books on how to create charts by looking at the kesar rekha in your natal palm or thumbs. BTW, as a sideline --there is something worth pursuing there, folks! I respect their achievements and if consistent, they are definitely way better than astrologers but they are NOT astrologers and must not be called so. You see -- you can be a touch typist, a fabulous one clipping along at 100 wpm or more ... but then comes along someone who is using a fancy version of Dragon speech recognition system and can speak into it at 200 wpm (words per minute) and the program flawlessly translates into typed content. Should the person using the speech recognition typing be called a *touch typist*? RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Arjun Garu > The ongoing affirmations/debate along with admissions are truely revealing and interesting.Arjun ji is to be complimented for his clarity in his words"such sage level astrologers are rare to find. > truly experience alone makes an astrologer perfect" > Collectively when we put in our views and considered postively for the health and prosperity > of the humankind we are contributing rightly for the purpose and cause.the effervescence now being seen in the subject of Astrology is really surpring.The younger lot particularly around 20s with few words picked here and there say "they know astrology and make predictions". > Else where even one of our friend in the group is concerned very much for the hrowth of subject and consistency of Astrology while making future as subject and predicting the life. > I really step forwrd to eulogise the stand of my teacher"arjun ji, > meeku maa hridayapoorvaka dahnyavadalu > krishnan > > anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote: > Dear Arjun ji, > > I recently met an astrologer, who just asked Abhishek to walk few steps and then > predicted the age, yogas, name of his bride etc..his children.. > > He also told that myself and abhi are alive bcose of my wife..else i had the yoga to die > soon after birth.. > > regards > anil > , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> > wrote: > > > > dear friend narasimhan ji > > > > out of my experience, i find that for an astrologer to come close to learn everything > in astrology, it takes at least two decades of learning cum experience. instead of a > professional astrologer reading from a chart, a highly learnt astrologer with decades > of experience can read everything backwards even just by hearing the details of a > person. > > > > i was also told by my gurus that astrologers are classified into four levels viz. > amateur, professional, master and sage. an amateur astrologer knows how to prepare > a chart based on birth details and read the chart by referring books and do some > analysis as well but falter in predictions. a professional astrologer requires minimum > details and make thorough reading and also make precise predictions on his own > without referring any book and is also capable of suggesting remedies. a master level > astrologer needs no details and can make instant and even distance readings as well > as predictions and suggestion of remedies. such masters got by rote all yogas, > meanings of all MD/AD/PDs etc and generally do not read charts on daily basis as > they are busy in writing books or teaching astrology classes. a sage level astrologer > has his third eye functioning and he can predict everything with his clairvoyance > without knowing even the name of the person or even seeing the person. if such > > sage level astrologers say something, it is reckoned as the word of god and they > have the power to change the fate by their blessings. such sage level astrologers are > rare to find. > > > > truly experience alone makes an astrologer perfect. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote: > > Arjun ji, > > > > In your message addressed to Gurmeet ji, you wrote: > > > > <<<even though basing your readings heavily on nakshatras is > > good, do not criticise others for not following this system>>> > > > > A very nice thought. Often, we learn such things only by > > experience. > > > > I recollect reading the chart of one person some time back. He > > had Kumba Lagna and Sukra was in the 4th, with Kuja. Now, in > > Sukra Dasa, he expected the Raja Yoga to activate because lords > > of 10th and 9th were conjunct. However, all he got were ulcers! > > The reason was not hard to seek - Sukra was in 6th lord > > Chandra's star Rohini! > > > > This was an eye opener for me, and since then, I have relied > > heavily on nakshatras. While I agree with Gurmeet ji on the > > importance of nakshatras, I also agree with you with reference > > to the freedom part. Jyotish cannot be mastered merely by > > learning principles, experience is more important, and the > > experiences we identify with defines our direction! > > > > > > ~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > ____ > > for Good > > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > http://store./redcross-donate3/ > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for Good > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. 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