Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 yes I agree, totally with you Sri RR. no comments :-) --Manoshi , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Dear friend, > > If you must teach, then just teach, don't wait for the critical > mass/number to gather around ;-) > > The teachings must come through a teacher (them's the laws) but are > they really 'emerging'from the teacher? > > Any *teacher* care to comment? > > RR > > > , "anil" > <anil_bindal2000> wrote: > > Any body else who would like to learn from my experience ?? > > > > regards > > anil > > , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > <khallopapa> > > wrote: > > > Dear Kad, > > > > > > Could not resist to say...wow...its a good post. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Anil, > > > > > > > > Though I hope, no answer can give you perfect understanding > > > > of what happened, analysing the events with Karma, astrology > > > > or spirituality would simply complicate the matter more! > > > > It does not mean that you have learnt nothing from that; but > > > > you have! To me, it appears that your experience with the > > > > bird shows: > > > > > > > > 1.You lack patience required to judge in an emergency - > > > > whether catching bus is more important than the life of > > > > a small bird caught in traffic! > > > > > > > > 2.You can even get to lower strata becoming selfish at times > > > > - by not even signaling the poor bird with horn/light. > > > > > > > > 3.You take advantage of weaker existence for selfish puposes > > > > - would you have done the same thing in case the animal > > > > in front of you was an elephant?! No! Because you would > > > > be the loser in that case! > > > > > > > > 4.You set an example which is not so good, for your son! > > > > - Do not care for anything when you are heading your aim!? > > > > You never even cared to see what happened to the creature! > > > > Would you do the same, when the bird was your son's pet? > > > > > > > > 5. You have learnt that you should have left home earlier > > > > to avoid these kind of bad events. > > > > > > > > The tyre-puncture case shows: > > > > 1.You feel yourself a better judge and do not care for others. > > > > - this incident may be a result of your restlessness; > > > > or pre-occupied mind and duality of thought in yourself! > > > > > > > > I have not used any spiritual or astrological principle to > > > > analyse this event; I am dragging out these from your mind! > > > > I remember swami Vivekananda's words - "Education(Knowledge) > > > > is the manifestation of the perfection, that is ALREADY in man". > > > > You know what you have done; repent for it; do not defend! > > > > > > > > You are neither away nor nearer to salvation; but it is inside > > > > YOURSELF! I recollect a sanskrit Subhashita: > > > > > > > > Pratyaham pratyaveksheta narashcharitamAtmanah | > > > > Kim nu me pashubhistulyam, kim nu satpuruShairiti || > > > > > > > > (Everyday, a person must examine his/her own acts - > > > > whether it should be weighed with those of beasts or > > > > with those of benevolent persons) > > > > > > > > I know, I am pricking on the wound again, but I also know > > > > that you know - that there is a pacifying medicine on the > > > > other side of the needle! > > > > > > > > Ahimsaa paramo dharmah!!! > > > > > > > > hope you know now what you have learnt! > > > > yours humbly > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "anil" > > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote: > > > > > This morning while driving my son to bus stop, i saw a bird > on > > > the > > > > middle of the road. > > > > > i blew the horn and had to stop almost till it flew away. At > > > that > > > > moment i decided > > > > > consciously that if another bird comes on my way, i will not > > > stop > > > > as i was getting late. > > > > > after 1/2 a km. i saw another bird on the road obstructing my > > > way. > > > > as decided i did not > > > > > blow horn and slowed down. Bird tried to flow away and was > hit > > > by > > > > my car.I am not > > > > > sure if it died or just flew away..as per my son who was in > the > > > > car, it could not have > > > > > survived.. > > > > > > > > > > we missed the bus and had i had to drive very fast to catch > the > > > bus > > > > 5 kms down the > > > > > bus stop.. > > > > > > > > > > On the way back home, i stopped at a petrol pump, something > told > > > me > > > > inside to get > > > > > the air filed in the tyres..but i ignored.. later when > started > > > for > > > > office 3 hr. later, i found > > > > > one of the tyres 1/2 punctured.. still i drove to a shop.but > it > > > was > > > > a holiday for them.. > > > > > no air.. so they replaced the tyre with stepney..and i got > late > > > for > > > > the office.. reached > > > > > 1/2 hr. late.. > > > > > > > > > > I am not able to decide the learnings out of this episode. > > > Whatever > > > > i did was pre- > > > > > decided consciously..why did the 2nd bird came in my way when > i > > > had > > > > already sent > > > > > this message to universe that i will not stop !! > > > > > > > > > > Was it sin on not stopping my car or blowing the horn..? was > it > > > my > > > > karmit debt which i > > > > > repaid or i created another karma effect for future ? What > could > > > > have been the > > > > > purpose ( not known to me ) ?? why did my car had 1/2 punture > > > AND > > > > not full puncture > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > > > Can someone intrepret my learnings i am supposed to get out > of > > > this > > > > experience.?? > > > > > > > > > > It is not easy to assimilate the learnings for we are not > even > > > sure > > > > what are the meant > > > > > learnings in life !! What to talk of right or wrong..!! > > > > > > > > > > All of us who write anything in this form on spirituality ( > > > > including me ) are far off from > > > > > Salvation..very far !!! > > > > > > > > > > We need to first let go of the judgements on our experiences > and > > > > other's knowledge > > > > > !! > > > > > > > > > > i guess i have written this email in bit anguish, but porpose > of > > > my > > > > current life is to > > > > > express.. leading to expressed love ( 6th Plane ).. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all for forgiving me ( i am being sarcastic .. yes ) > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > anil > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > > <bursar_99> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > May be it is worth to recall the great boost and confidence > > > Lord > > > > Krishna tried to > > > > > instill in the great warrior like Arjun; > > > > > > Action is Life and never be an example of inaction.why then > > > Mars > > > > being Deivik > > > > > planet pumps up energy and initiates action.May be write or > > > wrong > > > > for that moment. > > > > > This realisation of actions and fruits is the core of vedic > > > > Astrology.If this can be > > > > > realised' can cure the soul" > > > > > > So let the celestial drama be understood for the > > > present,future > > > > and from the past > > > > > that potrays as: > > > > > > "in the tug-og-war between earthly and cosmic reality". The > > > cynic > > > > in me believes > > > > > that the doubt ........and clings on to status quo > > > > > > when many people show zeal in knowing future it is not to > be > > > > academic but to get in > > > > > to the frame and percieve life in it's practical sense. > > > > > > Th members are just interested in their future but not in > > > their > > > > actions,in it's power > > > > > that can do and do. > > > > > > Analysis of these actions has to be the basis for > anticipating > > > > good or bad.Lagna in > > > > > Astrology is the place lot canbe deciphered. > > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > That is to be expected. If everyone listened and followed > > > proper > > > > > > advice, the world could be a happier place. However, modern > > > (wo) > > > > man > > > > > > harbours many doubts as (s)he participates in the tug-og- > war > > > > between > > > > > > earthly and cosmic reality. The cynic in me believes that > the > > > > doubt > > > > > > is really an expression of inability to let go, to cling on > to > > > > the > > > > > > status quo as nearly all of us experience. The karmic > groove, > > > > though > > > > > > full of suffering, can be quite addictive and preferred by > > > many > > > > over > > > > > > the uncertainty of that which can 'cure' the soul! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > > > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > "you have the faith in the truth that the > > > > > > > Universe is not random or chaotic and is guarded by > Kindness > > > > and > > > > > > Love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There will be challenges and set-backs -- they will test > > > your > > > > faith > > > > > > > and devotion -- in YOURSELF!" > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > You have n't minced words and told absolutely > > > > > > straight.Unfortunately those who ask queries need to be > > > sincere > > > > to > > > > > > and do such highly pious chantings. > > > > > > > I have seen many members of the group with draw when it > > > comes > > > > to > > > > > > following what is advised. > > > > > > > God Bless You. > > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > P.S: Even I felt some change over years as mantras have a > > > > definete > > > > > > impact in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > In the case of getting the jaap done by a pandit, > hopefully > > > one > > > > who > > > > > > > has taken the vow of poverty and does not show up at the > > > pooja > > > > with > > > > > > a > > > > > > > gold rolex on his wrist, you would be helping a dharmik > > > person > > > > with > > > > > > > his physical/worldly needs, as was the practice in the > olden > > > > days. > > > > > > > Endorsing the music casette -- you don't know who you are > > > > really > > > > > > > supporting and how much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantras are very powerful, particularly if you > > > wholeheartedly > > > > > > invest > > > > > > > your soul in it. It is almost like bringing home a murti > or > > > > even a > > > > > > > sacred piece of crystal or stone and worshipping it as a > > > symbol > > > > of > > > > > > > Something great, even if you have no real clue what That > > > being > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Guru is essential but Guru does not have to be a > human > > > or > > > > even > > > > > > a > > > > > > > living being! I will leave it at that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you ask, the more confused you will become, > because > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > in a zone where it is hard to tell the ECHO apart from > the > > > > message, > > > > > > > let alone 'truth'! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A mantra is an expedition into the wilderness of soul. > > > However, > > > > > > most > > > > > > > people start on a path, a "pagdandi" which means someone > has > > > > walked > > > > > > > before and it is comforting to know that, particularly > when > > > you > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > find blood-stains or bones and the path vanishes suddenly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can use a mantra or ritual as a path well- travelled, > > > with > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > insurance it brings, assumedly -- OR you can venture into > > > the > > > > rest > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the Universe as long as you have the faith in the truth > that > > > > the > > > > > > > Universe is not random or chaotic and is guarded by > Kindness > > > > and > > > > > > Love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There will be challenges and set-backs -- they will test > > > your > > > > faith > > > > > > > and devotion -- in YOURSELF! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "anil" > > > > > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between a mantra jaap getting > done > > > by > > > > a > > > > > > > Pandit and by > > > > > > > > listening to a Times Music Cassette ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2ndly, Can the result of Mantra recitation be > attributed > > > to > > > > more > > > > > > > than one person like > > > > > > > > the whole world or the family ?? Or dirfferent > recitations > > > > are > > > > > > reqd > > > > > > > for all family > > > > > > > > members ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > anil > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > > > > > > <kadrudra> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct pronunciation is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'tryambakam' (tri + ambakam = three eyed) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would stress that before chanting any Mantra, > please > > > know > > > > its > > > > > > > > > meaning and its correct pronunciation. Though there > are > > > > many > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > things to be known, these two are the MUST! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: sanskrit part of the 'tryambakam': > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trINi ambakaani yasya sah = tryambakah (one who has 3 > > > eyes > > > > = > > > > > > > Shiva) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ambakam(Eye) = ambu (jaayate) yasmin tat(one which > > > > has/produces > > > > > > > > > water) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yours > > > > > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "anil" > > > > > > > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > is it Om Tryamlakam or Om Tryambakam ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > anil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > RELISH > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > of > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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