Chart of Hanuman (incomplete,may be quite possible)

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dear sri kadrudra

namste.The two sites referred by you on dating of

Ramayana and Mahabharata war contain well researched

information worthy to be noted by any Hindu.

Evidently,the astronomical method used by ancient

rishis to record historical events through planetary

and star positions appears to be the best method

available.Now I can see that the chart of Sri Rama can

be cast with accuracy. That of Hanuman, may also be

possible if one searches Valmiki Ramayan for possible

clues. Thanks for throwing light on this point.

regards

satya

 

--- kadrudra <kadrudra wrote:

 

> Dear friend,

>

> Thanks for your post. Yes it is diffilult to

> complete the chart!

> I have used what is available to join 2-3 bits;

> thats all!

>

> To be frank, no historian accepts that Ramayana is a

> part of

> Indian history, but a 'just' a story of religious

> interest.

> Same was the case even with Mahabharata until Dr.

> S.R. Rao of

> the Marine Archaeology Unit of the National

> Institute of

> Oceanography of India, started proving it to be a

> history!

>

> Yet, with modern astronomical technics and software

> available,

> many have successfully dated Mahabharata and also

> Ramayana.

> Though there are different versions of epic

> available, the

> Valmiki Ramayana, the oldest of them is held with

> reverence.

> Even though some 'local hands' can do some mischiefs

> like

> addition,deletion or correction here and there, the

> facts

> of ASTROLOGY and ASTRONOMY are the least touched

> upon. Such

> fake documents can not be easily created if one is

> not a

> learned astrologer/astronomer and knows every little

> detail!

>

> Even there are people who quote Ramayana, Bharata

> from memory!

> The Vedic culture was Guru-Shishya Parampara with

> Oral and

> by heart methods of teaching. That is the reason we

> saved

> Vedas as they were! So, though I believe there are

> 'defects'

> in epic texts available, the astronomical

> observation can

> still be believed. It does not mean that we must

> accept all

> that is there in the book; but that is the first

> step to know

> the truth!

>

> These links may prove helpful:

>

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/ramayan/rama_vartak.html

>

>

http://www.geocities.com/vijayabalak/mahabharatha/yearone.htm

>

> yours humbly

> KAD

>

>

>

> ,

> "r.sathyanarayana sharma"

> <rssharmabza> wrote:

> > sri kadrudra

> > Namaste. Your assumed analysis of Lord Hanuman's

> chart

> > is excellent, fixing his birth day as Margasira

> > Amavasya with Moola star. The possibility of a

> solar

> > eclipse on that day tallying it with the episode

> of

> > Hanuman trying to swallow Sun is straight and

> simple.

> > Your explanation of the various factors corelating

> > astrology with puranic lore is praiseworthy.

> >

> > However the bitter obstacle is that we are in

> Kaliyuga

> > and cannot know his birthchart which happened in

> > tretayuga. As you know the available birth chart

> of

> > rama is a controversial one, owing to the

> confusion on

> > the theory of yugas.Evidently the chart of Lord

> Rama

> > is cast for some BC date mostly falling in Dwapara

> > yuga which is not correct.

> >

> > with such a confusion, i think it is not possible

> to

> > accurately draw the chart of Hanuman or even

> Rama.May

> > i know what is your opinion on this point?

> > regards

> > satya.

> >

> > --- kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear friend,

> > > According to reliable sources, the following can

> be

> > > found

> > > wrt birth of Hanuman:

> > > 1.Hanuman was born on chaitra aShTamI on a

> > > Tuesday(North Indian

> > > belief).

> > > This does not clarify whether it is shukla or

> > > krishna

> > > paksha of the month chaitra and these two

> > > possibilities

> > > indicate two probable position for Chandra -

> ARIDRA

> > > in

> > > bright half and MOOLA in the dark half of the

> > > month.

> > >

> > > 2.Hanuman was born on margashira krishna

> > > trayodashI(South India).

> > > This is clear cut wrt tithi - dark 13th day of

> the

> > > month

> > > margashira and nakshatra as

> Anuradha/JyeShTha/Moola

> > > the

> > > corresponding star. This view seems to believe

> in

> > > Moola;

> > > This was perhaps the end of 13th day since at

> > > Amavasya,

> > > Surya would be in PoorvashaDha and Chandra in

> MOOLA

> > > then

> > > would result in 14th dark and amavasya day.

> > >

> > > 3.Hanuman was born on amavasya of

> > > margashira(Dravidian view).

> > > This looks to be fairly better than case #2

> giving

> > > MOOLA

> > > as the birth star precisely.

> > >

> > > 4.Hanuman was born on chaitra poornima

> day(Vaishnava

> > > view)

> > > This, is clear wrt star - SWATI, rarely the end

> of

> > > CHITTA

> > >

> > > Now let us analyse the reason behind the 4

> possible

> > > stars ie

> > > Aridra, Swati, JyeShTha and Moola, keeping aside

> the

> > > rarer

> > > possibilities of Chitta, Anuradha or

> PoorvaShaDha.

> > >

> > > Aridra - lord of which is Rudra, is a valid

> janma

> > > taara for

> > > Hanuman, who was believed to be born from

> > > 'Rudramsha'.

> > >

> > > Swati - lord of which is VAAYU, is much stronger

> > > candidate

> > > for the janmataara of Vaayuputra the son of

> Wind

> > > God!

> > >

> > > JyeShTha - whose lord is Indra, is a weaker

> > > candidate and

> > > might be a valid star due to his strength equal

> to

> > > Indra.

> > > It may also be due to Vajra-deha of Hanuman

> whose

> > > name

> > > 'Hanumaan'(One with swollen cheeks) is due to

> > > Indra's

> > > Vajra-strike on his face.

> > >

> > > Moola - The star indicated in 3 out of 4 cases.

> > > - The star of the Origin or the seat of Brahma,

> is

> > > the

> > > valid star for Hanuman who is believed to be

> the

> > > SECOND BRAHMA.

> > > - Hanuman had early separation from parents,

> which

> > > is

> > > an indication of Moola.

> > > - Thirdly, Dhanu Rashi is the 6th(Servant) from

> > > Rama's

> > > Kataka Rashi and is well related.

> > > - The first Drekkana of Dhanu corresponding to

> > > Moola is

> > > well described for its 'speed' and 'ear

> rings',

>

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