Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 "Ekam Sat, Vipraa Bahudhaa Vadanti" Dear Arjun: See below: arjun pandit <panditarjun2004 Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:27:40 -0700 (PDT) perception of god Dear friends While attributing various gods to various planets and recommending worship to the concerned god, I sometimes feel we are deviating from the truth, for god is one and only manifestations are many. "Ekam Sat, Vipraa Bahudhaa Vadanti" Some Christians say the same thing when they say: "don't follow Astrology, but Christ". I always found this strange, because even the story of God includes 3 wise men, who were following a particular 'star' to find the Christ child. reality is only one living force (god) behind all sentient beings. So instead of us recommending this god or that god for worship, shall we be realistic in just inculcating spirituality and devotion and guide people to walk on the right path to reach god as told in Gita and by Ved Vyas. One of the greatest things that Ved teaches, however, is that God exists in all veins of life. So, whether you approach 'him/her' through the Sun, or through the Moon, as you say, reality or the lord can be found. One of the things I particularly enjoy about Jyotish, since I too have a spiritual orientiation, is that God can be approached through all the different avenues of the stars... In other words, if you want to think about God, intellectually, then, Mercury is the planet of choice, that allows you to 'contemplate' god... If you want to think about God, emotionally, then the Moon is the way in which we do it. For transcendence, which is one of the most crucial aspects of God-realization, Saturn is the primary planet. If you have a teacher, Guru, or priest, that's important in your life, this 'flow', is through the very important planet of Jupiter.... In many puranas, we have seen vishnu praising shiva and saying that he is the supreme god (when he fell one short of his sahasra lotus archana to shiva, he plucked his eye and placed at the feet of shiva), shiva says to parvati that he always chant "raam" and it is the secret behind his success, shiva also says that all gods and goddesses are created from one force only and that brahma, vishnu and shiva all are equal. In islam, there is no shape to the god and they just praise the god. Christians have three different versions of seeing jesus as god, son of god and messenger of god. Another thing I love about Jyotish is that it captures literally, all the aspects of life, from the mundane, to the spiritual. In fact, when we study anyone's particular chart, we can see the unique and personal path of life that they're meant to walk. Life is both spiritual and material. If we go by jesus example, even lord saibaba is a messenger of god but crores of people worship himself as god. these days many gurus who come on tv screens (like sermons on the mount) preach their visitors to treat them as god and their disciples keep huge photos of their guru on the houses, businesses and cars and parade his photo as if he is god and sing their own tailor-made aarti of the guru. modern scientists may say that even a rainbow has several colours, if we spin the wheel, it gives only one white colour This good analogy shows both the relative and the absolute. I think most people don't emphasize the absolute aspect of God, just because it's so abstract. Glorifiying the particular flavors of God, as the relative, or the particular 'planets', as of Surya, Chandra, Buddha,...etc.... Represent the particular paths of life.... If we want to find God, we can only start from where we are, and the specific planets in our charts, represent the unique details of each of our individual paths towards God. but these days some newage astrologers have cropped up advocating colour therapy and it is the latest inthing or in vogue. There's a great need, today, to understand all the different, remedies that can help us understand how to balance the particular 'malefics' in our charts.... Once we do this, then that unique part of our lives begins to come more into balance, and as a result, we begin to evolve more.... In a recent posting, one member observed Kalki (the demi-god) as the avtaar of this yuga. It is written in several holy scriptures that after the buddha avtaar, the Kalki avtaar would happen at the fag end of the kali yug (in the last 800 years) which is several lakhs of years from now. as you said aright, all our postings or understanding of scriptures is only our perception and we shall continue our learning for reaching closer to the truth, which may take full life time or many more births. the forum of late has become active with sharing and dissemination of light (knowledge) and with continued march on this path of knowledge with best wishes arjun One of the things I love the most about Jyotish, is that it helps anyone understand their lives better. For most, this is a combination of outer or materialistic qualilties as well as inner or spiritual ones. In both areas, our charts are so well organized to help us with all aspects of life, including the path to God. Fun talking about this... Sincerely, Mark Kincaid ps.... check out my on Spirituality & Astrology, at: Spirituality_Astrology/ Astrologer Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved 1 641 472-0000. kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear Arjun, Thanks for understanding my words. Exactly as you say, any vedic process - may not be only rituals - were started for a great cause, which we really are unaware of. All we debate on is just on our perception of the 'existing form' of Vedic practice we see, hear, learn and understand. When we are at the stage of just anticipating 'what they were', it is incorrect to brand them as orthodox or 'just written in books' or useless. yours KAD , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > Dear KADji > from the post, one can understand that u r well-read of our puranas. emphasising the last sentence you wrote, since kali yuga is different from its previous three predecessors, and dharam is ruling on one pada instead of 4 in satya yuga, for this yuga, those who protect the dharma are protected and blessed by god. in recent posts, few members had observed their scepticism in rituals. arya samaj has shown with evidence how an entire family in bhopal was saved in the dreaded gasleak decades ago only because of their daily havan which did not allow killer gases to land onto them and their entire family was saved. even lord saibaba (a muslim) performed daily havan and his divine miracles need no explanation. so my only request to those who cannot follow rituals or believe in rituals is not to brand them as orthodox or useless. > with best wishes > arjun > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear John, > > As I already wrote in my other post, IVF or fertilization external to > womb is not a > new concept to Vedic culture. There are many examples available in > Vedic history like: > > 1.Sage Agastya and Sage VasiShTha - were born in a water-pitcher when > Mitra and Varuna > placed their seeds in it wishing to get Urvashi, the nymph. > 2.Acharya Drona - was born in a bowl(=droNa) when the semen of > Maharshi Bharadwaja leaked into > it on seeing a nymph named Ghritachi. > 3.ShaNmukha - son of Shiva was born due to release of REATS of Shiva > into space, carried > by Agni to six star-women of Krittika(Pleidas). > 4.Matsya Hanuman - was born when a drop of semen from Hanuman > crossing the Indian Ocean fell into > the mouth of a Matasya Kanya - a mermaid/fish below. > ....there are so many other examples too...the list continues..... > > The Kauravas of Mahabharata were born by CLONING technique, which was > already known! > So, all these were considered LEGAL births and Shastra or sages > accepted them, for they > were needed for a great cause. All those births resulted in great > persons; becasue they were planned so! > > Can we guarantee now? Surely, we do not have that capacity to judge; > and the YUGA is different! > > yours humbly > KAD > > > > , "John" <jr_esq> wrote: > > To all members: > > > > I wonder what the sages would say about using invitro fertization > > technology to have a baby in this present time. Should this > > technology be encouraged? Or, do the shastras have any prohibition > > against such technology? > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > May look funny, but the caerasean births are AYONI JANMA and > astro- > > > classical texts > > > deal with great details. Also there are astro-dictum available > for > > > judging FORCED birth. > > > There are also great details in astro-classical texts > > > describing 'shastra ghaata' to > > > the mother while a native is born ie use of a weapon at birth. > > > Besides, there is a wonderful DEFINITION of 'birth' according > sages: > > > > > > kritevAdhAnalagnam tu tretAyAm puMsavanam(jalodayam) tathA | > > > dvApare shIrshodayam syAt kalau bhUpatanam smr.tam || > > > > > > which means: > > > The Lagna defining the time of birth shall correspond to > conception > > > in KritaYuga, > > > pumsavana process(some say jalodaya = burst of water bag around > the > > > baby) in TretaYuga, > > > the rise of HEAD(or body in general) of the baby at birth in > > > DvaparaYuga and > > > the GROUND-TOUCH of the baby in KaliYuga ie now. > > > How genius were they to anticipate techno advances! > > > > > > So, even now, in kaliyuga, in which caesarean birth are becoming > > more > > > in number, still > > > the dictum is clear and holds good! Whether the birth is natural > > (even > > > if it is unnatural or supernatural) > > > a birth is a BIRTH now only at the ground-touch moment of the > baby, > > > astrologically! > > > Ground here is EARTHY existence and is not to be confused with > real > > > sand or land touching the baby. > > > > > > Hope I am clear! > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k> wrote: > > > > Dear Gurujans !! > > > > > > > > In the present day moden world with technological advancement, > > > > cesearian cases have become a regular feature for birth of a > > > child. I > > > > have come across few cases where parents even decide the date > and > > > time > > > > in which the operation to be undertaken. > > > > > > > > These things rises a question in my mind about the correctness > of > > > > predictions by any astrologer based on chart to that of the > fate > > of > > > the > > > > soul which is pre-defined by HIM. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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