Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Respected Kad.ji, Thanks for your comments. Though I am not so knowledgeable as you, but I also feel that religion and spiritualism are the two faces of the same coin. I feel that if something (like, pilgrimage or pooja) can give me inner peace, make me believe in a higher power and with the help of that belief, make myself pull up to a higher level than before and become a better human being........then it is spiritual. Maybe people can be spiritually advanced without using the means provided by religion. But those who are using the means provided by religion, their purpose is also spiritual advancement. And regarding any problems that come while performing any pilgrimage or pooja, I think those problems would have come anyway. Thanks & Regards, Divya kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear friends, Though I can understand that in an Occidental view, 'Religion' and 'Spiritualism' are different, It is not so in Oriental view and at least wrt Vedic traditions, Religion and Spiritualism are the two faces of the same Vedic coin. It is same as differentiating between Veda and Vedanta! But astrology is a Vedanga, which connects DHARMA(Religious) and ADHYAATMA(=spirituality) through KARMA while it finds usage mostly in materialistic(LOUKIKA) world! This is well known to all. So same Jupiter, who indicates 'Religious deeds' does surely indicate 'spiritual acts'. Or simply, Jupiter represents the above said Vedic coin with Adhyatma and Dharma faces. Which face turns up in actual acts of an individual is ruled by his KARMA, and in each case, Jupiter matters! As I have always seen, believed and experienced, there is no BACK- FIRE of any daana/pooja/pilgrimage. If at all it exists, it is co-incidental and psychological and NO VEDIC SCRIPT backs this idea of back-firing experienced- except in Tantras- not at all in temple visits or worships or charity. I really wonder how this BACK-FIRE concept creeped into minds of astrologers who do not suggest Tantrik remedies! yours humbly, KAD , Divya <touchbase_divya> wrote: > Respected Ashutoshji, > > You said in one of your mails that "Jupiter is karak of religious pursuits (not spiritual)." > > Doesn't Jupiter also reflect Guru? And doesn't one's Guru lead to spiritual progress as well? > > Please clarify for better understanding. > > Thanks, > Divya > > > > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Dear KAD ji, In some corner fervent references to Deva Guru(Jupiter) and Daitya Guru(Venus) and their effect on religion and spitualism are being made.Though it is very interstin I feel that religion,spirtualsim and final goal of attaining moksha all inter connected.to each other.I do not think the interpreatations in Astrology will be independent and based os specific planet like jupiter to religion and Venus to sssssomething else. Vedas are not religious oriented nor for that matter vedanga.No doubt Astrology is Vedang.Both help in the initiation of spirtualism.What I feel spirtulism, has nothing to do with Astrology but as you said Dharam is not so.I agree if dharma is represented by"Jupiter, who indicates 'Religious deeds' does surely indicate 'spiritual acts'also which is the highest plane regards krishnan Divya <touchbase_divya wrote: Respected Kad.ji, Thanks for your comments. Though I am not so knowledgeable as you, but I also feel that religion and spiritualism are the two faces of the same coin. I feel that if something (like, pilgrimage or pooja) can give me inner peace, make me believe in a higher power and with the help of that belief, make myself pull up to a higher level than before and become a better human being........then it is spiritual. Maybe people can be spiritually advanced without using the means provided by religion. But those who are using the means provided by religion, their purpose is also spiritual advancement. And regarding any problems that come while performing any pilgrimage or pooja, I think those problems would have come anyway. Thanks & Regards, Divya kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear friends, Though I can understand that in an Occidental view, 'Religion' and 'Spiritualism' are different, It is not so in Oriental view and at least wrt Vedic traditions, Religion and Spiritualism are the two faces of the same Vedic coin. It is same as differentiating between Veda and Vedanta! But astrology is a Vedanga, which connects DHARMA(Religious) and ADHYAATMA(=spirituality) through KARMA while it finds usage mostly in materialistic(LOUKIKA) world! This is well known to all. So same Jupiter, who indicates 'Religious deeds' does surely indicate 'spiritual acts'. Or simply, Jupiter represents the above said Vedic coin with Adhyatma and Dharma faces. Which face turns up in actual acts of an individual is ruled by his KARMA, and in each case, Jupiter matters! As I have always seen, believed and experienced, there is no BACK- FIRE of any daana/pooja/pilgrimage. If at all it exists, it is co-incidental and psychological and NO VEDIC SCRIPT backs this idea of back-firing experienced- except in Tantras- not at all in temple visits or worships or charity. I really wonder how this BACK-FIRE concept creeped into minds of astrologers who do not suggest Tantrik remedies! yours humbly, KAD , Divya <touchbase_divya> wrote: > Respected Ashutoshji, > > You said in one of your mails that "Jupiter is karak of religious pursuits (not spiritual)." > > Doesn't Jupiter also reflect Guru? And doesn't one's Guru lead to spiritual progress as well? > > Please clarify for better understanding. > > Thanks, > Divya > > > > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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