Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 dear friend you have successfully transformed this group into a knowledge sharing exercise amongs the member fraternity with your never ending queries. the best part of this group, mainly because of the contributing members, is the agreement even while disagreeing with one another's observations. as my brother satish said once, the more we learn, we learn that what we learnt is so little. earlier few members used to prove that their viewpoint is correct but are no longer active or have gone out of the group. so only the good ones are left in the group. appreciating what krishnanji wrote, i read moksha also from the 4th house besides 6th, 8th and 12th houses. though many consider 3rd house a bad house, i do not find it that bad. earlier astrologer used to mostly depend on divine grace or intuition (clairovyance) and less on charts. but because of the systerms approach and scientific based preictive methodology, these days astrologers have become like weathermen. when the meteorology department itself (thousands of crores of rupees spent every year) even with several spaceships is failing in its predictions, we can imagine the accuracy of the predictions made by computer charts. when i was a child i was amzaed how the weight machine with colourful lamps on a railway platform can print my future prediction on the reverse of the weight card just for 50 paise. this mail is just to thank all fellow members in sharing their knowledge which should be appreciated and they shall be respected for their knowledge sharing. in case any member needs specific clarifications on any specific reading, i am more than willing to share the same, even while considering myself at learning stage till my last breath. however, since this group is more interested in increasing the fortunes and averting the misfortunes of the natives, let us all focus more on advising suitable remedies which are counter productive. with best wishes arjun vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: hello angel, it is really a mind boggling question that interlinks many things of jyotisha:we have Apoklimas represented by 3rd,6th,9th and 12th.All these houses are 3rd to kendra(1.4,7.10). Then in the classification besides this are panaparas(all houses next to kendras namely 2,5,8 and11) of these classifications, as under are known as dusthanas as they represent: kshatha(injury/sufferings),vighna(obstacles),Ari(bad): 6th House (Artha-Career) :Vishnu marana(death)randra(hollow)Guhya(internal) :8th House (Moksha-Sacrifice):Mahesh nasa(destuction)Antya(last/final) :12th House (Moksha_Sacrifice):Mahesh of the above,marana,antya,besides Ari are represented mokha bhavas represented by Mahesh and 6th being Artha is a house of development and progress represented by Vishnu. Now Coming to upachaya houses 3rd and 6th(from kendra,they are 3rd).of these 3rd is kama represented desire necessary for progress and like wise 6th Ardha is a reward that comes of dharma and is also sign of progress/development.Both desire and reward evolve out of Dharma and so these are evolutionary houses also known as upachaya . Thus all 12 houses are predominently belong to :Brahma(origin/moola),Vishnu(progress/jeeva)Mahesh(Antya/End). 12th Moksha bhava is before dharma bhava 6th Artha bhava after dharma bhava 8th Moksha bahva after kama bhva All these are dusthanas as they represented different types of evils and sufferings.where as 3rd,and 6th as they are progressive are also upachayas reference to Kendras).6th is enemy 'coz the resultant of dharma may lead to reward or a punishment( if it is good then reward and bad it is punishement), 8th is malefic as it is randhra or hollow also known as guhya. krishnan angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi all <1>> I was thinking why is 6th house considered trik house.Some where I read that It is called Upapachya House also. Now , 6th house is also regarded as SERVICE-HOUSE.If it is exalted then service (occupation) of the native (career-job prospects) are GOOD. BUT why is it also called dusthana? Why it is called house of enemy when it is related with career.I am unable to undersyand this logic. It provides native with good carrer if in good position and why it is negative house. <2>>I was reading sanjay rath;s book and he mentions that the debilitated planets in dasmasa (D-10) give very good results. I could not understand this also. It was explained in 10house chapter. <3>> Is 8th house the most malefic house ? many thanks angel goel =================== SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Start your day with - make it your home page SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hi Arjun Ji, Helping needy mankind and sharing knowledge - both are among the prime objectives of this forum. Sharing of knowledge and discussing concepts will not hamper advising with remedies and predictions - both types of discussions will go same time. There is no point to narrow down the scope of forum. Rather it will depend upon the members being interested and able to participate in such discussions. I agree with your view that 3rd house isnt a malefic one (unlike 6th, 8th etc.) and I also add 11th house here. Also I generally observe that the 12th house is not as much malefic as 6th and 8th. Sometimes 6th seems more malefic than the 8th, and something 8th seems more malefic than 6th. But most of the times 8th is more serious malefic. Regards Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - arjun pandit Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:09 PM astrology lessons - angel goel dear friend you have successfully transformed this group into a knowledge sharing exercise amongs the member fraternity with your never ending queries. the best part of this group, mainly because of the contributing members, is the agreement even while disagreeing with one another's observations. as my brother satish said once, the more we learn, we learn that what we learnt is so little. earlier few members used to prove that their viewpoint is correct but are no longer active or have gone out of the group. so only the good ones are left in the group. appreciating what krishnanji wrote, i read moksha also from the 4th house besides 6th, 8th and 12th houses. though many consider 3rd house a bad house, i do not find it that bad. earlier astrologer used to mostly depend on divine grace or intuition (clairovyance) and less on charts. but because of the systerms approach and scientific based preictive methodology, these days astrologers have become like weathermen. when the meteorology department itself (thousands of crores of rupees spent every year) even with several spaceships is failing in its predictions, we can imagine the accuracy of the predictions made by computer charts. when i was a child i was amzaed how the weight machine with colourful lamps on a railway platform can print my future prediction on the reverse of the weight card just for 50 paise. this mail is just to thank all fellow members in sharing their knowledge which should be appreciated and they shall be respected for their knowledge sharing. in case any member needs specific clarifications on any specific reading, i am more than willing to share the same, even while considering myself at learning stage till my last breath. however, since this group is more interested in increasing the fortunes and averting the misfortunes of the natives, let us all focus more on advising suitable remedies which are counter productive. with best wishes arjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Hi Arjun Pandit Ji & others Thanks for all the good words. I always wanted to learn astrology with the remedies point of view. First we shud learn the problem and we shud be able to decide/suggest the remedy so that it actually helps. thanks angel --- arjun pandit <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend > > you have successfully transformed this group into a > knowledge sharing exercise amongs the member > fraternity with your never ending queries. > > the best part of this group, mainly because of the > contributing members, is the agreement even while > disagreeing with one another's observations. as my > brother satish said once, the more we learn, we > learn that what we learnt is so little. earlier few > members used to prove that their viewpoint is > correct but are no longer active or have gone out of > the group. so only the good ones are left in the > group. > > appreciating what krishnanji wrote, i read moksha > also from the 4th house besides 6th, 8th and 12th > houses. though many consider 3rd house a bad house, > i do not find it that bad. > > earlier astrologer used to mostly depend on divine > grace or intuition (clairovyance) and less on > charts. but because of the systerms approach and > scientific based preictive methodology, these days > astrologers have become like weathermen. when the > meteorology department itself (thousands of crores > of rupees spent every year) even with several > spaceships is failing in its predictions, we can > imagine the accuracy of the predictions made by > computer charts. when i was a child i was amzaed > how the weight machine with colourful lamps on a > railway platform can print my future prediction on > the reverse of the weight card just for 50 paise. > > this mail is just to thank all fellow members in > sharing their knowledge which should be appreciated > and they shall be respected for their knowledge > sharing. in case any member needs specific > clarifications on any specific reading, i am more > than willing to share the same, even while > considering myself at learning stage till my last > breath. > > however, since this group is more interested in > increasing the fortunes and averting the misfortunes > of the natives, let us all focus more on advising > suitable remedies which are counter productive. > > with best wishes > arjun > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > hello angel, > it is really a mind boggling question that > interlinks many things of jyotisha:we have Apoklimas > represented by 3rd,6th,9th and 12th.All these houses > are 3rd to kendra(1.4,7.10). > Then in the classification besides this are > panaparas(all houses next to kendras namely 2,5,8 > and11) > of these classifications, as under are known as > dusthanas as they represent: > kshatha(injury/sufferings),vighna(obstacles),Ari(bad): > 6th House (Artha-Career) :Vishnu > marana(death)randra(hollow)Guhya(internal) > :8th House (Moksha-Sacrifice):Mahesh > nasa(destuction)Antya(last/final) > :12th House (Moksha_Sacrifice):Mahesh > of the above,marana,antya,besides Ari are > represented mokha bhavas represented by Mahesh and > 6th being Artha is a house of development and > progress represented by Vishnu. > Now Coming to upachaya houses 3rd and 6th(from > kendra,they are 3rd).of these 3rd is kama > represented desire necessary for progress and like > wise 6th Ardha is a reward that comes of dharma and > is also sign of progress/development.Both desire and > reward evolve out of Dharma and so these are > evolutionary houses also known as upachaya . > Thus all 12 houses are predominently belong to > :Brahma(origin/moola),Vishnu(progress/jeeva)Mahesh(Antya/End). > 12th Moksha bhava is before dharma bhava > 6th Artha bhava after dharma bhava > 8th Moksha bahva after kama bhva > All these are dusthanas as they represented > different types of evils and sufferings.where as > 3rd,and 6th as they are progressive are also > upachayas reference to Kendras).6th is enemy 'coz > the resultant of dharma may lead to reward or a > punishment( if it is good then reward and bad it is > punishement), > 8th is malefic as it is randhra or hollow also known > as guhya. > krishnan > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > <1>> I was thinking why is 6th house considered trik > house.Some where I read that It is called Upapachya > House also. > > Now , 6th house is also regarded as SERVICE-HOUSE.If > it is exalted then service (occupation) of the > native > (career-job prospects) are GOOD. > > BUT why is it also called dusthana? Why it is called > house of enemy when it is related with career.I am > unable to undersyand this logic. It provides native > with good carrer if in good position and why it is > negative house. > > <2>>I was reading sanjay rath;s book and he mentions > that the debilitated planets in dasmasa (D-10) give > very good results. I could not understand this also. > It was explained in 10house chapter. > > <3>> Is 8th house the most malefic house ? > > > > many thanks > angel goel > =================== > > > > Tired of spam? 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