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Dear Anil ji,

very well written and truly i can say u have understood SELF

OR GOD THIS IS THE FACT, REST ALL IS BRAHMA( ILLUSION ).U R ENLIGHTENED SO NO

NEED TO CONFUSE URSELF WITH ALL THESE ARGUMENTS N DISCUSSION .

THIS WAS THE REASON WHY SIKHISM ,MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS HAVE DELETED OR AVOIDED

THIS SUBJECT ASTROLOGY.THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS SCIENCE OR

DEFER PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THIS.

AS ASTROLOGY WAS A DIVINE SCIENCE IN OLDEN TIMES THE RISHIS HAD THE DIVINE

VISION BEFORE PROFESSING ANYTHING ,WHICH IS TOTALLY LOST WITH TIMES

AND NOW IT HAS BECOME A PROFESSION AND A GAME FOR THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE

INCLINED TOWARDS DEFEATISM , DESTINY ,AND FATE.

AS U RIGHTLY SAID HOW CAN HIS CREATION BE WRONG ,PAINFUL AND FULL OF MISERY-

SIMPLE REASON WE ALL ARE CLINGING TO THAT ' I '.

THIS I, ME IS PAINFULL.

ALL ARE SHASRTAS ,PURANAS AND EVEN GEETA ARE WRITTEN IN SYMBOLICAL TERMS .FOR A

LAYMAN ITS KRISHNA AND ARJUN IN FORMS( ROOP), HE WILL TAKE THEM AS GOD AND

WORSHIP THEM.WHEREAS FOR A LEARNED SOUL ITS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN ATMA AND

PARMATMA.

JUST THINK ARJUN THE JEEV SITTING IN A CHARIOT ( BODY )DRIVEN BY FIVE HORSES ( 5

SENSES) DRIVEN BY KRISHNA ( PARMATMA).THEN WHERE CAN HE GO WRONG ,HE IS BOUND TO

WIN THE WAR AGAINST THE THOUSANDS OF VICHARS,DESIRES,ETC.

THERE DHRITRASTRA BLIND WITH HUNDRED SONS MEANS MANN(MIND ) WITH 100 DESIRES

LOSES THE BATTLE ,LOSES HIS SONS .

GETTING BACK TO THE POINT U HAVE RIGHTLY SAID NOT MANY HAVE THE KEY TO THIS

WISDOM.

HIS CREATION ,HIS LEELA HAS TO BE THE BEST WITHOUT ANY FLAWS.

I CAN UNDERSTAND UR CONCERN ABOUT UR SON ,AFTER ALL ITS THE VEIL OF MAYA,VERY

DIFFICULT TO BREAK IT .

WELL I HAVE MET PERONALLY THIS KALKI BHAGWAN WHO HAS THE POWER

AND IS BESTOWING INSTANT ENLIGHTMENT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WAT HE SAYS I CAN VOUCH FOR HIM,HE IS THE PERSON WHO SAYS HE CAN REWRITE THE

KARMAS AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN FAMILY,ITS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE TILL U GO

THERE.

WAT U THINK AND WAT HE SAYS IS THE SAME THING ,HE SAYS IT OPENLY NO ONE CAN

ACHIEVE ENLIGHTMENT ON ITS OWN ,IT HAS TO BE GIVEN .NO AMOUNT OF PUJA ,JAPA CAN

HELP YOU,IN HIS WORDS ' EVEN IF U PRAY STANDING ON UR HEAD U CANNOT ACHIEVE IT'.

TO WITNESS THIS U HAVE TO GO HIS ASHRAM IN THE SOUTH OR SEARCH KALKI.ORG ON THE

NET OR www.experiencefestival.com .HE IS ONE MAN WHO CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS OF

UR SON IF HE IS WILLING ,U HAVE TO ASK HIM.

PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE IT BUT WAT HE TOLD ME HAS LOGIC ,WHEN HE TAKES U ABOVE

THIS LOKA AND IF THE PERSON CAN REACH THE 6TH OR 7TH LOKA WITH HIS GRACE THEN

OVER THERE HE CAN REWRITE THE PERSON KARMAS.

THEY HAVE A SESSION FOR 7DAYS ,10 DAYS,21 DAYS FOR GIVING DIKSHA FOR TOTAL

ENLIGHTMENT.

ONCE U REACH THERE U CAN SEE ANY NUMBERS OF ENLIGHTED SOULS,IN FACT THE VILLAGE

NEARBY IS FULLY ENLIGHTED ,U CAN TALK TO PEOPLE ORDINARY LOOKING BUT ONCE U TALK

U WUD UNDERSTAND ..

ALL OUR SO CALLED PREACHERS ON THE TV ARE VISITING HIM FOR ENLIGHTMENT AS U KNOW

THEY CAN ONLY TALK BUT CANNOT GIVE ANYTHING.ITS JUS THEY HAVE TAKEN A DEGREE IN

HISTORY ( BHAGWAD PURANA OR RAMAYANA ).

U R A BLESSED PERSON SO IS UR FAMILY ITS EITHER U PLAY ON WITH HIS LEELA OR CAN

TAKE A CHANCE WITH KALKI BHAGWAN.

LIKE U SAY ITS GETTING HEAVIER FOR THE COMMONER ,IT IS THE SAME BREATH TYING

EACH AND EVERY SOUL WITH ONENESS THEN WHERE IS THE DUALITY.

RGDS

KUMAR

 

 

wrote:

There are 2 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Re: pls help

 

2. Re: jyotish and karma theory

"anil"

 

 

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Message: 1

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:42:23 -0700 (PDT)

 

Re: Re: pls help

 

thanks for your reply Srikantaji,

 

what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

 

regrads,

Bhatt

 

 

 

 

--- asksrikanta wrote:

 

> Dear Bhatt Ji,

>

> Surya Kundali is analysing the chart

> taking Sun sign as the lagna.

> Strength of this chart shows success in profession

> and politics one's

> status in society.

>

> Similarly the strength of Chandra Kundali indicates

> wealth and mental

> poise and capacity of an person.

>

> Benefic in Upachaya(3,6,10,11) places from

>

> Lagna makes one owner of virtuous and saintly

> qualities.

>

> similarly from Moon makes one Wealthy and from Sun

> makes one

> established in the professional/social/poliotical

> circle with the

> capability to exercise political powers and

> influence.

>

>

> With regards,

>

> Srikanta

> I,

>

> wrote:

> > hi,

> >

> > what is diffent bet. Surya Kundli & Chandra

> Kundli?

> >

> > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Regards,

> > Bhatt

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

______________________

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Message: 2

Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:44:40 -0000

"anil"

Re: jyotish and karma theory

 

Dear Arjun ji,

 

First of all my unconditional apologies for i seem to have raised an

anguish in you.

 

I understand your feelings as you as a master have great belief in

Jyotish and you are

also a matured/old soul..

 

In this universe, there is nothing right or wrong.. there is nothing

sacred or evil..it is

just the conditioning of our mind..everything IS..

 

We all are part of GOD.. all that is.. then i believe.. everything in

this world is perfect..

why do we label something good or bad..then..? does it mean in HIS

sristi He created

something..which was imperfect ?? How can anything in GOD's creation

be BAD ?? ..

this is the point i wanted to emphasize..

 

We all express and experience what we desire steadyfast..like despite

knowing

above i am still stuck in knowing about my son's longevity.. depite

having a firm belief

inside that death is purely a decision of the individual SOUL..still

it is my mind which

seeks.. that is the game... my mind is playing..and i am aware of it..

 

and WHY GOD can not be humerous ? and willing to play GAMES...It is

like labelling

SEX as bad..

 

When ones feels separated, then feeling of separateness and

individuality..arises..

then one seeks..and tries to find answers externally.. precisely what

i have been

doing..

 

I did not mean to demean Jyotish.. i was only referring to a book

called Ramtha White

Book..their web site is ramtha.com..when i finished the book..i could

not believe that i

am GOD..how can i be a GOD ?? later i was suggested reading 3 books

of -

Conversations with GOD by Welsch.. and slowly.. i understood the

meaning of it..

 

Also i am told that there are two shlokas.. in Gita.. and not

everyone has the key to it..

that is the root of the whole confusion..

 

In my opinion, each one of us is a master with uniqueness and we all

create whatever we desire and believe..

 

Very recently.. i have experienced the Law of Cause and Effect...in

my case it happens almost instantaneouly..so i would not defy Cause

and Effect..

but then when i say Karma.. then i mean everything ends in this

life.. for after

death.. soul will rest and analyse and then correct the

mis-learnings..in next life..there

is no compulsion to repay for any mis-deeds..done in last life..but

then it is again a

bookish knowledge..

 

actually it is getting heavier..so i would once again say that i love

all who think Jyotish

as Vedanga.. for each one of us is a unique master and has the free

will to experience

one is scripted for..and each one of has an essence and beauty..

 

Each one of us connected thru the thoughts energy and we are not

separate..and our inner consciouness network keeps designing the further moves..

like all who are going to read this email and feel whatever..

 

BTW.. i am still concerned ( my mind ) about my son.. does he have

Balarishtra Yoga..

if yes.. are there any remedies..??

 

Kind regards

anil

 

 

 

, arjun pandit

 

 

wrote:

> dear friend

> jyotish is a VEDANGA and should be revered as a holy scripture.

history has seen

billions of people trying to learn jyotish and failing. Only with

divine grace after doing

lot of meditation, people have succeeded in mastering this art.

Hence kindly do not

call it a game which is sacrilege.

> You have also expressed various doubts on karma theory earlier.

Lord krishna says

in Gita chapter six, verse 40 "na hi kalyana krut kakshit durgatim

tata gachhati". It

means that a person who does good, who seeks the welfare of others

and seeks to

do good and actually does good cannot come toan eveil end whether he

believes in

god or not. this is the reason why several members have been

highlighting offlate to

do good deeds to improve upon your karma and receive the blessings of

god.

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> anil wrote:

> Ramtha, a 35000 years old soul already told about it 10 years back

and also said that

> there is eleventh planet also in formation..he also said that

astrology was invented

by

> Gogs - only as a game for Gods..and Chart should have 14 houses..so

treat

astrology

> as a game..

>

> Well !! we are all Gods..so it is a game for us..

>

> regards

> anil

> , vattem krishnan

 

> wrote:

> > Hello friends,

> > Science has no limitations be it Information Technology or

scientific explorations.

> Man's continuous pursuit of nature brings very interesting

revealtions.Of them is the

> discovery of 10th planet in outer space called 2003-UB313.It is

10th planet of solar

> system.it is one and half size of pluto and measures 2,032km in

diameter.

> > How do we really now think in terms of palnetary influences on

human kind due to

> the scietific findings?

> > may kindly suggest

> > krishnan

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail for Mobile

> > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

> >

> >

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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______________________

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

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i am reminded of this song by Mukesh.. who himself was a divine

person.. his aawaj

directly touches soul..Moku Kahan dhoode re bande.. mein to Tere Paas

mein..

 

No seeking..just be as you are..for there is nothing to be sought..

 

there was a time when i kept on reading..Love thyself and Love

others..

 

i used to feel odd .. as i thought Love as analogous to adultery in

relationship.. like a

husband leaving the wife for another woman..lust.. western culture..

 

now i understand that Love is a spectrum containg alltypes of

feelings..like a white

light is a spectrum..

 

If one Loves self and all others including that - is perceibvable or

not..all that IS.. then

there is no need to know anything else..

 

Like i have mentioned earlier..i have chosen salvation as my highest

purpose of life..i

want to be a healer..

 

still writing these emails are still part of my Ego which needs to be

satisfied and needs

praise in the forum..needs to share though with others to enlighten

them .. but at the

same time to show that i too have the knowledge..there will be a time

when i will not

even bother to express myself and seek in any forum..

 

rgds

anil

 

, siam pacific

<pacificsiam> wrote:

> Dear Anil ji,

> very well written and truly i can say u have

understood SELF OR GOD

THIS IS THE FACT, REST ALL IS BRAHMA( ILLUSION ).U R ENLIGHTENED SO

NO NEED TO CONFUSE URSELF WITH ALL THESE ARGUMENTS N

DISCUSSION .

> THIS WAS THE REASON WHY SIKHISM ,MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS HAVE

DELETED OR AVOIDED THIS SUBJECT ASTROLOGY.THEIR RELIGIOUS

LEADERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS SCIENCE OR DEFER PEOPLE INTO

BELIEVING THIS.

> AS ASTROLOGY WAS A DIVINE SCIENCE IN OLDEN TIMES THE RISHIS HAD

THE DIVINE VISION BEFORE PROFESSING ANYTHING ,WHICH IS TOTALLY

LOST WITH TIMES

> AND NOW IT HAS BECOME A PROFESSION AND A GAME FOR THE WEAK

MINDED PEOPLE INCLINED TOWARDS DEFEATISM , DESTINY ,AND FATE.

> AS U RIGHTLY SAID HOW CAN HIS CREATION BE WRONG ,PAINFUL AND

FULL OF MISERY- SIMPLE REASON WE ALL ARE CLINGING TO THAT ' I '.

> THIS I, ME IS PAINFULL.

> ALL ARE SHASRTAS ,PURANAS AND EVEN GEETA ARE WRITTEN IN

SYMBOLICAL TERMS .FOR A LAYMAN ITS KRISHNA AND ARJUN IN FORMS(

ROOP), HE WILL TAKE THEM AS GOD AND WORSHIP THEM.WHEREAS FOR A

LEARNED SOUL ITS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN ATMA AND PARMATMA.

> JUST THINK ARJUN THE JEEV SITTING IN A CHARIOT ( BODY )DRIVEN BY

FIVE HORSES ( 5 SENSES) DRIVEN BY KRISHNA ( PARMATMA).THEN WHERE

CAN HE GO WRONG ,HE IS BOUND TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST THE

THOUSANDS OF VICHARS,DESIRES,ETC.

> THERE DHRITRASTRA BLIND WITH HUNDRED SONS MEANS MANN(MIND )

WITH 100 DESIRES LOSES THE BATTLE ,LOSES HIS SONS .

> GETTING BACK TO THE POINT U HAVE RIGHTLY SAID NOT MANY HAVE THE

KEY TO THIS WISDOM.

> HIS CREATION ,HIS LEELA HAS TO BE THE BEST WITHOUT ANY FLAWS.

> I CAN UNDERSTAND UR CONCERN ABOUT UR SON ,AFTER ALL ITS THE VEIL

OF MAYA,VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK IT .

> WELL I HAVE MET PERONALLY THIS KALKI BHAGWAN WHO HAS THE

POWER

> AND IS BESTOWING INSTANT ENLIGHTMENT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

ALL OVER THE WORLD.

> WAT HE SAYS I CAN VOUCH FOR HIM,HE IS THE PERSON WHO SAYS HE

CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN FAMILY,ITS

DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE TILL U GO THERE.

> WAT U THINK AND WAT HE SAYS IS THE SAME THING ,HE SAYS IT OPENLY

NO ONE CAN ACHIEVE ENLIGHTMENT ON ITS OWN ,IT HAS TO BE GIVEN .NO

AMOUNT OF PUJA ,JAPA CAN HELP YOU,IN HIS WORDS ' EVEN IF U PRAY

STANDING ON UR HEAD U CANNOT ACHIEVE IT'.

> TO WITNESS THIS U HAVE TO GO HIS ASHRAM IN THE SOUTH OR SEARCH

KALKI.ORG ON THE NET OR www.experiencefestival.com .HE IS ONE MAN WHO

CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS OF UR SON IF HE IS WILLING ,U HAVE TO ASK

HIM.

> PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE IT BUT WAT HE TOLD ME HAS LOGIC ,WHEN HE

TAKES U ABOVE THIS LOKA AND IF THE PERSON CAN REACH THE 6TH OR

7TH LOKA WITH HIS GRACE THEN OVER THERE HE CAN REWRITE THE

PERSON KARMAS.

> THEY HAVE A SESSION FOR 7DAYS ,10 DAYS,21 DAYS FOR GIVING DIKSHA

FOR TOTAL ENLIGHTMENT.

> ONCE U REACH THERE U CAN SEE ANY NUMBERS OF ENLIGHTED SOULS,IN

FACT THE VILLAGE NEARBY IS FULLY ENLIGHTED ,U CAN TALK TO PEOPLE

ORDINARY LOOKING BUT ONCE U TALK U WUD UNDERSTAND ..

> ALL OUR SO CALLED PREACHERS ON THE TV ARE VISITING HIM FOR

ENLIGHTMENT AS U KNOW THEY CAN ONLY TALK BUT CANNOT GIVE

ANYTHING.ITS JUS THEY HAVE TAKEN A DEGREE IN HISTORY ( BHAGWAD

PURANA OR RAMAYANA ).

> U R A BLESSED PERSON SO IS UR FAMILY ITS EITHER U PLAY ON WITH HIS

LEELA OR CAN TAKE A CHANCE WITH KALKI BHAGWAN.

> LIKE U SAY ITS GETTING HEAVIER FOR THE COMMONER ,IT IS THE SAME

BREATH TYING EACH AND EVERY SOUL WITH ONENESS THEN WHERE IS THE

DUALITY.

> RGDS

> KUMAR

>

>

> wrote:

> There are 2 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: Re: pls help

>

> 2. Re: jyotish and karma theory

> "anil"

>

>

>

____________________

__

>

____________________

__

>

> Message: 1

> Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:42:23 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: pls help

>

> thanks for your reply Srikantaji,

>

> what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

>

> regrads,

> Bhatt

>

>

>

>

> --- asksrikanta wrote:

>

> > Dear Bhatt Ji,

> >

> > Surya Kundali is analysing the chart

> > taking Sun sign as the lagna.

> > Strength of this chart shows success in profession

> > and politics one's

> > status in society.

> >

> > Similarly the strength of Chandra Kundali indicates

> > wealth and mental

> > poise and capacity of an person.

> >

> > Benefic in Upachaya(3,6,10,11) places from

> >

> > Lagna makes one owner of virtuous and saintly

> > qualities.

> >

> > similarly from Moon makes one Wealthy and from Sun

> > makes one

> > established in the professional/social/poliotical

> > circle with the

> > capability to exercise political powers and

> > influence.

> >

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Srikanta

> > I,

> >

> > wrote:

> > > hi,

> > >

> > > what is diffent bet. Surya Kundli & Chandra

> > Kundli?

> > >

> > > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Bhatt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > protection around

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

____________________

__

>

____________________

__

>

> Message: 2

> Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:44:40 -0000

> "anil"

> Re: jyotish and karma theory

>

> Dear Arjun ji,

>

> First of all my unconditional apologies for i seem to have raised an

> anguish in you.

>

> I understand your feelings as you as a master have great belief in

> Jyotish and you are

> also a matured/old soul..

>

> In this universe, there is nothing right or wrong.. there is nothing

> sacred or evil..it is

> just the conditioning of our mind..everything IS..

>

> We all are part of GOD.. all that is.. then i believe.. everything

in

> this world is perfect..

> why do we label something good or bad..then..? does it mean in HIS

> sristi He created

> something..which was imperfect ?? How can anything in GOD's creation

> be BAD ?? ..

> this is the point i wanted to emphasize..

>

> We all express and experience what we desire steadyfast..like

despite

> knowing

> above i am still stuck in knowing about my son's longevity.. depite

> having a firm belief

> inside that death is purely a decision of the individual SOUL..still

> it is my mind which

> seeks.. that is the game... my mind is playing..and i am aware of

it..

>

> and WHY GOD can not be humerous ? and willing to play GAMES...It is

> like labelling

> SEX as bad..

>

> When ones feels separated, then feeling of separateness and

> individuality..arises..

> then one seeks..and tries to find answers externally.. precisely

what

> i have been

> doing..

>

> I did not mean to demean Jyotish.. i was only referring to a book

> called Ramtha White

> Book..their web site is ramtha.com..when i finished the book..i

could

> not believe that i

> am GOD..how can i be a GOD ?? later i was suggested reading 3 books

> of -

> Conversations with GOD by Welsch.. and slowly.. i understood the

> meaning of it..

>

> Also i am told that there are two shlokas.. in Gita.. and not

> everyone has the key to it..

> that is the root of the whole confusion..

>

> In my opinion, each one of us is a master with uniqueness and we all

> create whatever we desire and believe..

>

> Very recently.. i have experienced the Law of Cause and Effect...in

> my case it happens almost instantaneouly..so i would not defy Cause

> and Effect..

> but then when i say Karma.. then i mean everything ends in this

> life.. for after

> death.. soul will rest and analyse and then correct the

> mis-learnings..in next life..there

> is no compulsion to repay for any mis-deeds..done in last life..but

> then it is again a

> bookish knowledge..

>

> actually it is getting heavier..so i would once again say that i

love

> all who think Jyotish

> as Vedanga.. for each one of us is a unique master and has the free

> will to experience

> one is scripted for..and each one of has an essence and beauty..

>

> Each one of us connected thru the thoughts energy and we are not

> separate..and our inner consciouness network keeps designing the

further moves..

> like all who are going to read this email and feel whatever..

>

> BTW.. i am still concerned ( my mind ) about my son.. does he have

> Balarishtra Yoga..

> if yes.. are there any remedies..??

>

> Kind regards

> anil

>

>

>

> , arjun pandit

>

>

> wrote:

> > dear friend

> > jyotish is a VEDANGA and should be revered as a holy scripture.

> history has seen

> billions of people trying to learn jyotish and failing. Only with

> divine grace after doing

> lot of meditation, people have succeeded in mastering this art.

> Hence kindly do not

> call it a game which is sacrilege.

> > You have also expressed various doubts on karma theory earlier.

> Lord krishna says

> in Gita chapter six, verse 40 "na hi kalyana krut kakshit durgatim

> tata gachhati". It

> means that a person who does good, who seeks the welfare of others

> and seeks to

> do good and actually does good cannot come toan eveil end whether he

> believes in

> god or not. this is the reason why several members have been

> highlighting offlate to

> do good deeds to improve upon your karma and receive the blessings

of

> god.

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > anil wrote:

> > Ramtha, a 35000 years old soul already told about it 10 years back

> and also said that

> > there is eleventh planet also in formation..he also said that

> astrology was invented

> by

> > Gogs - only as a game for Gods..and Chart should have 14

houses..so

> treat

> astrology

> > as a game..

> >

> > Well !! we are all Gods..so it is a game for us..

> >

> > regards

> > anil

> > , vattem krishnan

>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello friends,

> > > Science has no limitations be it Information Technology or

> scientific explorations.

> > Man's continuous pursuit of nature brings very interesting

> revealtions.Of them is the

> > discovery of 10th planet in outer space called 2003-UB313.It is

> 10th planet of solar

> > system.it is one and half size of pluto and measures 2,032km in

> diameter.

> > > How do we really now think in terms of palnetary influences on

> human kind due to

> > the scietific findings?

> > > may kindly suggest

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mail for Mobile

> > > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

> RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

____________________

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>

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>

>

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

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Dear kumarji

 

firstly the reason for not answering to mails in the group for the past few days

is because of my extended pilgriamges and next week again going to naimisaranya

for few days of tapas there.

 

In my mail dated 16th July, 2005 reading anil bindal's chart have already

predicted that he has inkling towards self awakening and that he is standing at

the entrance of self realisation and that he would soon be a renounced person

and then become an enlightened person. perhaps things are working fast for him

with so much positive energies given by good friends like you.

 

Let us all wish anil bindalji all the best.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

siam pacific <pacificsiam wrote:

Dear Anil ji,

very well written and truly i can say u have understood SELF

OR GOD THIS IS THE FACT, REST ALL IS BRAHMA( ILLUSION ).U R ENLIGHTENED SO NO

NEED TO CONFUSE URSELF WITH ALL THESE ARGUMENTS N DISCUSSION .

THIS WAS THE REASON WHY SIKHISM ,MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS HAVE DELETED OR AVOIDED

THIS SUBJECT ASTROLOGY.THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS SCIENCE OR

DEFER PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THIS.

AS ASTROLOGY WAS A DIVINE SCIENCE IN OLDEN TIMES THE RISHIS HAD THE DIVINE

VISION BEFORE PROFESSING ANYTHING ,WHICH IS TOTALLY LOST WITH TIMES

AND NOW IT HAS BECOME A PROFESSION AND A GAME FOR THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE

INCLINED TOWARDS DEFEATISM , DESTINY ,AND FATE.

AS U RIGHTLY SAID HOW CAN HIS CREATION BE WRONG ,PAINFUL AND FULL OF MISERY-

SIMPLE REASON WE ALL ARE CLINGING TO THAT ' I '.

THIS I, ME IS PAINFULL.

ALL ARE SHASRTAS ,PURANAS AND EVEN GEETA ARE WRITTEN IN SYMBOLICAL TERMS .FOR A

LAYMAN ITS KRISHNA AND ARJUN IN FORMS( ROOP), HE WILL TAKE THEM AS GOD AND

WORSHIP THEM.WHEREAS FOR A LEARNED SOUL ITS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN ATMA AND

PARMATMA.

JUST THINK ARJUN THE JEEV SITTING IN A CHARIOT ( BODY )DRIVEN BY FIVE HORSES ( 5

SENSES) DRIVEN BY KRISHNA ( PARMATMA).THEN WHERE CAN HE GO WRONG ,HE IS BOUND TO

WIN THE WAR AGAINST THE THOUSANDS OF VICHARS,DESIRES,ETC.

THERE DHRITRASTRA BLIND WITH HUNDRED SONS MEANS MANN(MIND ) WITH 100 DESIRES

LOSES THE BATTLE ,LOSES HIS SONS .

GETTING BACK TO THE POINT U HAVE RIGHTLY SAID NOT MANY HAVE THE KEY TO THIS

WISDOM.

HIS CREATION ,HIS LEELA HAS TO BE THE BEST WITHOUT ANY FLAWS.

I CAN UNDERSTAND UR CONCERN ABOUT UR SON ,AFTER ALL ITS THE VEIL OF MAYA,VERY

DIFFICULT TO BREAK IT .

WELL I HAVE MET PERONALLY THIS KALKI BHAGWAN WHO HAS THE POWER

AND IS BESTOWING INSTANT ENLIGHTMENT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WAT HE SAYS I CAN VOUCH FOR HIM,HE IS THE PERSON WHO SAYS HE CAN REWRITE THE

KARMAS AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN FAMILY,ITS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE TILL U GO

THERE.

WAT U THINK AND WAT HE SAYS IS THE SAME THING ,HE SAYS IT OPENLY NO ONE CAN

ACHIEVE ENLIGHTMENT ON ITS OWN ,IT HAS TO BE GIVEN .NO AMOUNT OF PUJA ,JAPA CAN

HELP YOU,IN HIS WORDS ' EVEN IF U PRAY STANDING ON UR HEAD U CANNOT ACHIEVE IT'.

TO WITNESS THIS U HAVE TO GO HIS ASHRAM IN THE SOUTH OR SEARCH KALKI.ORG ON THE

NET OR www.experiencefestival.com .HE IS ONE MAN WHO CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS OF

UR SON IF HE IS WILLING ,U HAVE TO ASK HIM.

PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE IT BUT WAT HE TOLD ME HAS LOGIC ,WHEN HE TAKES U ABOVE

THIS LOKA AND IF THE PERSON CAN REACH THE 6TH OR 7TH LOKA WITH HIS GRACE THEN

OVER THERE HE CAN REWRITE THE PERSON KARMAS.

THEY HAVE A SESSION FOR 7DAYS ,10 DAYS,21 DAYS FOR GIVING DIKSHA FOR TOTAL

ENLIGHTMENT.

ONCE U REACH THERE U CAN SEE ANY NUMBERS OF ENLIGHTED SOULS,IN FACT THE VILLAGE

NEARBY IS FULLY ENLIGHTED ,U CAN TALK TO PEOPLE ORDINARY LOOKING BUT ONCE U TALK

U WUD UNDERSTAND ..

ALL OUR SO CALLED PREACHERS ON THE TV ARE VISITING HIM FOR ENLIGHTMENT AS U KNOW

THEY CAN ONLY TALK BUT CANNOT GIVE ANYTHING.ITS JUS THEY HAVE TAKEN A DEGREE IN

HISTORY ( BHAGWAD PURANA OR RAMAYANA ).

U R A BLESSED PERSON SO IS UR FAMILY ITS EITHER U PLAY ON WITH HIS LEELA OR CAN

TAKE A CHANCE WITH KALKI BHAGWAN.

LIKE U SAY ITS GETTING HEAVIER FOR THE COMMONER ,IT IS THE SAME BREATH TYING

EACH AND EVERY SOUL WITH ONENESS THEN WHERE IS THE DUALITY.

RGDS

KUMAR

 

 

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Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Re: pls help

 

2. Re: jyotish and karma theory

"anil"

 

 

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Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:42:23 -0700 (PDT)

 

Re: Re: pls help

 

thanks for your reply Srikantaji,

 

what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

 

regrads,

Bhatt

 

 

 

 

--- asksrikanta wrote:

 

> Dear Bhatt Ji,

>

> Surya Kundali is analysing the chart

> taking Sun sign as the lagna.

> Strength of this chart shows success in profession

> and politics one's

> status in society.

>

> Similarly the strength of Chandra Kundali indicates

> wealth and mental

> poise and capacity of an person.

>

> Benefic in Upachaya(3,6,10,11) places from

>

> Lagna makes one owner of virtuous and saintly

> qualities.

>

> similarly from Moon makes one Wealthy and from Sun

> makes one

> established in the professional/social/poliotical

> circle with the

> capability to exercise political powers and

> influence.

>

>

> With regards,

>

> Srikanta

> I,

>

> wrote:

> > hi,

> >

> > what is diffent bet. Surya Kundli & Chandra

> Kundli?

> >

> > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Regards,

> > Bhatt

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"anil"

Re: jyotish and karma theory

 

Dear Arjun ji,

 

First of all my unconditional apologies for i seem to have raised an

anguish in you.

 

I understand your feelings as you as a master have great belief in

Jyotish and you are

also a matured/old soul..

 

In this universe, there is nothing right or wrong.. there is nothing

sacred or evil..it is

just the conditioning of our mind..everything IS..

 

We all are part of GOD.. all that is.. then i believe.. everything in

this world is perfect..

why do we label something good or bad..then..? does it mean in HIS

sristi He created

something..which was imperfect ?? How can anything in GOD's creation

be BAD ?? ..

this is the point i wanted to emphasize..

 

We all express and experience what we desire steadyfast..like despite

knowing

above i am still stuck in knowing about my son's longevity.. depite

having a firm belief

inside that death is purely a decision of the individual SOUL..still

it is my mind which

seeks.. that is the game... my mind is playing..and i am aware of it..

 

and WHY GOD can not be humerous ? and willing to play GAMES...It is

like labelling

SEX as bad..

 

When ones feels separated, then feeling of separateness and

individuality..arises..

then one seeks..and tries to find answers externally.. precisely what

i have been

doing..

 

I did not mean to demean Jyotish.. i was only referring to a book

called Ramtha White

Book..their web site is ramtha.com..when i finished the book..i could

not believe that i

am GOD..how can i be a GOD ?? later i was suggested reading 3 books

of -

Conversations with GOD by Welsch.. and slowly.. i understood the

meaning of it..

 

Also i am told that there are two shlokas.. in Gita.. and not

everyone has the key to it..

that is the root of the whole confusion..

 

In my opinion, each one of us is a master with uniqueness and we all

create whatever we desire and believe..

 

Very recently.. i have experienced the Law of Cause and Effect...in

my case it happens almost instantaneouly..so i would not defy Cause

and Effect..

but then when i say Karma.. then i mean everything ends in this

life.. for after

death.. soul will rest and analyse and then correct the

mis-learnings..in next life..there

is no compulsion to repay for any mis-deeds..done in last life..but

then it is again a

bookish knowledge..

 

actually it is getting heavier..so i would once again say that i love

all who think Jyotish

as Vedanga.. for each one of us is a unique master and has the free

will to experience

one is scripted for..and each one of has an essence and beauty..

 

Each one of us connected thru the thoughts energy and we are not

separate..and our inner consciouness network keeps designing the further moves..

like all who are going to read this email and feel whatever..

 

BTW.. i am still concerned ( my mind ) about my son.. does he have

Balarishtra Yoga..

if yes.. are there any remedies..??

 

Kind regards

anil

 

 

 

, arjun pandit

 

 

wrote:

> dear friend

> jyotish is a VEDANGA and should be revered as a holy scripture.

history has seen

billions of people trying to learn jyotish and failing. Only with

divine grace after doing

lot of meditation, people have succeeded in mastering this art.

Hence kindly do not

call it a game which is sacrilege.

> You have also expressed various doubts on karma theory earlier.

Lord krishna says

in Gita chapter six, verse 40 "na hi kalyana krut kakshit durgatim

tata gachhati". It

means that a person who does good, who seeks the welfare of others

and seeks to

do good and actually does good cannot come toan eveil end whether he

believes in

god or not. this is the reason why several members have been

highlighting offlate to

do good deeds to improve upon your karma and receive the blessings of

god.

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> anil wrote:

> Ramtha, a 35000 years old soul already told about it 10 years back

and also said that

> there is eleventh planet also in formation..he also said that

astrology was invented

by

> Gogs - only as a game for Gods..and Chart should have 14 houses..so

treat

astrology

> as a game..

>

> Well !! we are all Gods..so it is a game for us..

>

> regards

> anil

> , vattem krishnan

 

> wrote:

> > Hello friends,

> > Science has no limitations be it Information Technology or

scientific explorations.

> Man's continuous pursuit of nature brings very interesting

revealtions.Of them is the

> discovery of 10th planet in outer space called 2003-UB313.It is

10th planet of solar

> system.it is one and half size of pluto and measures 2,032km in

diameter.

> > How do we really now think in terms of palnetary influences on

human kind due to

> the scietific findings?

> > may kindly suggest

> > krishnan

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail for Mobile

> > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

> >

> >

>

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Thanks for all the positive energies..i am experiencing now the meaning of

spiritual

guides in form..A sanyasi used to visit our house who used to say.. Saab Gorakh

ki

Maaya ji.. i am begining to understand what he meant now..

 

I just pray to GOD from my core of heart to give me the wisdom so that i donot

have

to take any form again..all this is maya only.. the metrix..

 

My Heartily Gratitudes to all..

 

anil

 

, arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

wrote:

> Dear kumarji

>

> firstly the reason for not answering to mails in the group for the past few

days is

because of my extended pilgriamges and next week again going to naimisaranya for

few days of tapas there.

>

> In my mail dated 16th July, 2005 reading anil bindal's chart have already

predicted

that he has inkling towards self awakening and that he is standing at the

entrance of

self realisation and that he would soon be a renounced person and then become an

enlightened person. perhaps things are working fast for him with so much

positive

energies given by good friends like you.

>

> Let us all wish anil bindalji all the best.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

>

> siam pacific <pacificsiam> wrote:

> Dear Anil ji,

> very well written and truly i can say u have understood SELF

OR GOD

THIS IS THE FACT, REST ALL IS BRAHMA( ILLUSION ).U R ENLIGHTENED SO

NO NEED TO CONFUSE URSELF WITH ALL THESE ARGUMENTS N

DISCUSSION .

> THIS WAS THE REASON WHY SIKHISM ,MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS HAVE

DELETED OR AVOIDED THIS SUBJECT ASTROLOGY.THEIR RELIGIOUS

LEADERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS SCIENCE OR DEFER PEOPLE INTO

BELIEVING THIS.

> AS ASTROLOGY WAS A DIVINE SCIENCE IN OLDEN TIMES THE RISHIS HAD

THE DIVINE VISION BEFORE PROFESSING ANYTHING ,WHICH IS TOTALLY

LOST WITH TIMES

> AND NOW IT HAS BECOME A PROFESSION AND A GAME FOR THE WEAK

MINDED PEOPLE INCLINED TOWARDS DEFEATISM , DESTINY ,AND FATE.

> AS U RIGHTLY SAID HOW CAN HIS CREATION BE WRONG ,PAINFUL AND

FULL OF MISERY- SIMPLE REASON WE ALL ARE CLINGING TO THAT ' I '.

> THIS I, ME IS PAINFULL.

> ALL ARE SHASRTAS ,PURANAS AND EVEN GEETA ARE WRITTEN IN

SYMBOLICAL TERMS .FOR A LAYMAN ITS KRISHNA AND ARJUN IN FORMS(

ROOP), HE WILL TAKE THEM AS GOD AND WORSHIP THEM.WHEREAS FOR A

LEARNED SOUL ITS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN ATMA AND PARMATMA.

> JUST THINK ARJUN THE JEEV SITTING IN A CHARIOT ( BODY )DRIVEN BY

FIVE HORSES ( 5 SENSES) DRIVEN BY KRISHNA ( PARMATMA).THEN WHERE

CAN HE GO WRONG ,HE IS BOUND TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST THE

THOUSANDS OF VICHARS,DESIRES,ETC.

> THERE DHRITRASTRA BLIND WITH HUNDRED SONS MEANS MANN(MIND )

WITH 100 DESIRES LOSES THE BATTLE ,LOSES HIS SONS .

> GETTING BACK TO THE POINT U HAVE RIGHTLY SAID NOT MANY HAVE THE

KEY TO THIS WISDOM.

> HIS CREATION ,HIS LEELA HAS TO BE THE BEST WITHOUT ANY FLAWS.

> I CAN UNDERSTAND UR CONCERN ABOUT UR SON ,AFTER ALL ITS THE VEIL

OF MAYA,VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK IT .

> WELL I HAVE MET PERONALLY THIS KALKI BHAGWAN WHO HAS THE

POWER

> AND IS BESTOWING INSTANT ENLIGHTMENT TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

ALL OVER THE WORLD.

> WAT HE SAYS I CAN VOUCH FOR HIM,HE IS THE PERSON WHO SAYS HE

CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN FAMILY,ITS

DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE TILL U GO THERE.

> WAT U THINK AND WAT HE SAYS IS THE SAME THING ,HE SAYS IT OPENLY

NO ONE CAN ACHIEVE ENLIGHTMENT ON ITS OWN ,IT HAS TO BE GIVEN .NO

AMOUNT OF PUJA ,JAPA CAN HELP YOU,IN HIS WORDS ' EVEN IF U PRAY

STANDING ON UR HEAD U CANNOT ACHIEVE IT'.

> TO WITNESS THIS U HAVE TO GO HIS ASHRAM IN THE SOUTH OR SEARCH

KALKI.ORG ON THE NET OR www.experiencefestival.com .HE IS ONE MAN WHO

CAN REWRITE THE KARMAS OF UR SON IF HE IS WILLING ,U HAVE TO ASK

HIM.

> PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE IT BUT WAT HE TOLD ME HAS LOGIC ,WHEN HE

TAKES U ABOVE THIS LOKA AND IF THE PERSON CAN REACH THE 6TH OR

7TH LOKA WITH HIS GRACE THEN OVER THERE HE CAN REWRITE THE

PERSON KARMAS.

> THEY HAVE A SESSION FOR 7DAYS ,10 DAYS,21 DAYS FOR GIVING DIKSHA

FOR TOTAL ENLIGHTMENT.

> ONCE U REACH THERE U CAN SEE ANY NUMBERS OF ENLIGHTED SOULS,IN

FACT THE VILLAGE NEARBY IS FULLY ENLIGHTED ,U CAN TALK TO PEOPLE

ORDINARY LOOKING BUT ONCE U TALK U WUD UNDERSTAND ..

> ALL OUR SO CALLED PREACHERS ON THE TV ARE VISITING HIM FOR

ENLIGHTMENT AS U KNOW THEY CAN ONLY TALK BUT CANNOT GIVE

ANYTHING.ITS JUS THEY HAVE TAKEN A DEGREE IN HISTORY ( BHAGWAD

PURANA OR RAMAYANA ).

> U R A BLESSED PERSON SO IS UR FAMILY ITS EITHER U PLAY ON WITH HIS

LEELA OR CAN TAKE A CHANCE WITH KALKI BHAGWAN.

> LIKE U SAY ITS GETTING HEAVIER FOR THE COMMONER ,IT IS THE SAME

BREATH TYING EACH AND EVERY SOUL WITH ONENESS THEN WHERE IS THE

DUALITY.

> RGDS

> KUMAR

>

>

> wrote:

> There are 2 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: Re: pls help

>

> 2. Re: jyotish and karma theory

> "anil"

>

>

>

____________________

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>

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>

> Message: 1

> Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:42:23 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: pls help

>

> thanks for your reply Srikantaji,

>

> what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

>

> regrads,

> Bhatt

>

>

>

>

> --- asksrikanta wrote:

>

> > Dear Bhatt Ji,

> >

> > Surya Kundali is analysing the chart

> > taking Sun sign as the lagna.

> > Strength of this chart shows success in profession

> > and politics one's

> > status in society.

> >

> > Similarly the strength of Chandra Kundali indicates

> > wealth and mental

> > poise and capacity of an person.

> >

> > Benefic in Upachaya(3,6,10,11) places from

> >

> > Lagna makes one owner of virtuous and saintly

> > qualities.

> >

> > similarly from Moon makes one Wealthy and from Sun

> > makes one

> > established in the professional/social/poliotical

> > circle with the

> > capability to exercise political powers and

> > influence.

> >

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Srikanta

> > I,

> >

> > wrote:

> > > hi,

> > >

> > > what is diffent bet. Surya Kundli & Chandra

> > Kundli?

> > >

> > > what is Navamasha chart ?what does it signifies?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Bhatt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > protection around

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

____________________

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>

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__

>

> Message: 2

> Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:44:40 -0000

> "anil"

> Re: jyotish and karma theory

>

> Dear Arjun ji,

>

> First of all my unconditional apologies for i seem to have raised an

> anguish in you.

>

> I understand your feelings as you as a master have great belief in

> Jyotish and you are

> also a matured/old soul..

>

> In this universe, there is nothing right or wrong.. there is nothing

> sacred or evil..it is

> just the conditioning of our mind..everything IS..

>

> We all are part of GOD.. all that is.. then i believe.. everything in

> this world is perfect..

> why do we label something good or bad..then..? does it mean in HIS

> sristi He created

> something..which was imperfect ?? How can anything in GOD's creation

> be BAD ?? ..

> this is the point i wanted to emphasize..

>

> We all express and experience what we desire steadyfast..like despite

> knowing

> above i am still stuck in knowing about my son's longevity.. depite

> having a firm belief

> inside that death is purely a decision of the individual SOUL..still

> it is my mind which

> seeks.. that is the game... my mind is playing..and i am aware of it..

>

> and WHY GOD can not be humerous ? and willing to play GAMES...It is

> like labelling

> SEX as bad..

>

> When ones feels separated, then feeling of separateness and

> individuality..arises..

> then one seeks..and tries to find answers externally.. precisely what

> i have been

> doing..

>

> I did not mean to demean Jyotish.. i was only referring to a book

> called Ramtha White

> Book..their web site is ramtha.com..when i finished the book..i could

> not believe that i

> am GOD..how can i be a GOD ?? later i was suggested reading 3 books

> of -

> Conversations with GOD by Welsch.. and slowly.. i understood the

> meaning of it..

>

> Also i am told that there are two shlokas.. in Gita.. and not

> everyone has the key to it..

> that is the root of the whole confusion..

>

> In my opinion, each one of us is a master with uniqueness and we all

> create whatever we desire and believe..

>

> Very recently.. i have experienced the Law of Cause and Effect...in

> my case it happens almost instantaneouly..so i would not defy Cause

> and Effect..

> but then when i say Karma.. then i mean everything ends in this

> life.. for after

> death.. soul will rest and analyse and then correct the

> mis-learnings..in next life..there

> is no compulsion to repay for any mis-deeds..done in last life..but

> then it is again a

> bookish knowledge..

>

> actually it is getting heavier..so i would once again say that i love

> all who think Jyotish

> as Vedanga.. for each one of us is a unique master and has the free

> will to experience

> one is scripted for..and each one of has an essence and beauty..

>

> Each one of us connected thru the thoughts energy and we are not

> separate..and our inner consciouness network keeps designing the further

moves..

> like all who are going to read this email and feel whatever..

>

> BTW.. i am still concerned ( my mind ) about my son.. does he have

> Balarishtra Yoga..

> if yes.. are there any remedies..??

>

> Kind regards

> anil

>

>

>

> , arjun pandit

>

>

> wrote:

> > dear friend

> > jyotish is a VEDANGA and should be revered as a holy scripture.

> history has seen

> billions of people trying to learn jyotish and failing. Only with

> divine grace after doing

> lot of meditation, people have succeeded in mastering this art.

> Hence kindly do not

> call it a game which is sacrilege.

> > You have also expressed various doubts on karma theory earlier.

> Lord krishna says

> in Gita chapter six, verse 40 "na hi kalyana krut kakshit durgatim

> tata gachhati". It

> means that a person who does good, who seeks the welfare of others

> and seeks to

> do good and actually does good cannot come toan eveil end whether he

> believes in

> god or not. this is the reason why several members have been

> highlighting offlate to

> do good deeds to improve upon your karma and receive the blessings of

> god.

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > anil wrote:

> > Ramtha, a 35000 years old soul already told about it 10 years back

> and also said that

> > there is eleventh planet also in formation..he also said that

> astrology was invented

> by

> > Gogs - only as a game for Gods..and Chart should have 14 houses..so

> treat

> astrology

> > as a game..

> >

> > Well !! we are all Gods..so it is a game for us..

> >

> > regards

> > anil

> > , vattem krishnan

>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello friends,

> > > Science has no limitations be it Information Technology or

> scientific explorations.

> > Man's continuous pursuit of nature brings very interesting

> revealtions.Of them is the

> > discovery of 10th planet in outer space called 2003-UB313.It is

> 10th planet of solar

> > system.it is one and half size of pluto and measures 2,032km in

> diameter.

> > > How do we really now think in terms of palnetary influences on

> human kind due to

> > the scietific findings?

> > > may kindly suggest

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mail for Mobile

> > > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

> RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

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> Service.

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> >

> >

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