2-Pankaj: re.... Thanks for the reply & more questions about remedial measures? >> Mark Kincaid 7/31

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Respected Sir,Mark thannks for giving your valuable time for answring

in details to my questions from your answer.....

 

 

Dear Pankaj:

 

 

See below:

 

 

 

 

"12345" <jtobdg

 

Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:34:35 -0000

 

Thanks for the reply

 

 

Respected Sir,Mark thannks for giving your valuable time for answring

in details to my questions from your answer what i am getting is that

 

1) one could not expect mango when he sow the seeds of banana or

destiny has decided banana for him.i.e. no freedom of choices.

 

It's not that there's no freedom of choice, it's just that there is an

orderly part of life

that means....

 

if we plant a banana seed, it's good that we get a banana tree!

 

In other words, that there is an orderliness to the karmic, causal nature of

life.

 

Freedom, however, resides in somthing, and somewhere deeper, then this

aspect of life...

 

Deep within, where our souls reside,....is the source of true freedom!

 

 

 

2) live as the life comes as every thing is predecided we can only

improve but the question is HOW?

 

Once we accept that self-improvement is possible then we can investigate

further...

 

There is the long standing reference to Remedial Measures, in Jyotish, which

is a reflection,

of the deep, self-improvement nature of life....

 

One of my greatest insights too, has been that the 'malefics' in our charts,

are not only

symbolic of our problems, but,.... very uniquely specific about exactly

which planets we

need to strengthen!

 

#1, then, is the identification of these specific planets to be improved....

 

After that, there is much about Ved that will help us discover how to

strengthen & improve

any and every aspect of life....

 

For example, if you were to go to an Ayurvedic doctor, he'd feel your pulse

and upon discovering

that you have an imbalance of 'pitta'......(ie. Mars!), then,

 

he'd suggest many prescriptions, and herbs that have a long standing

knowledge and wisdom,

as to how to balance that pitta energy.

 

 

My point of view, also, is that where Ayurved tends to focus on the body and

it's physical

properties, Jyotish, deals also with the mind...

 

Think of Jyotish as Vedic psychology, and where ever, Mars is considered

malefic, the science

of Vedic Psychology, can suggest,.....

 

many prescriptions, to reign in the mental imbalances of Mars....

 

Because whenever Mars is functioning malefically, the deeper underlieing

realilty is that the

individual has wanted or believed that 'going' that way, was helpful or

even, 'right'.....

 

But, then, Jyotish comes along and says,.... this Mars is too strong!

 

So, then, we can investigate into how to be less Marish, and see if that

doesn't help!

 

 

3)please suggest something to learn more about "SELF IMPROVEMENT"

 

The Ved is all about how to improve any and every aspect of life...

 

There's yoga...for improving coordination and releasing stress of the

body....

 

There's meditation for expanding the Mind or consciousness, which is very

affective at

strengthening both weakened Sun's, or Moon's in people's charts.

 

Then, there's Ayurved which can help heal any health problems....especially

Saturn....

 

 

4) Please suggest some litrature to understand more about jyotish

remedies

 

 

This whole group is a testament to the Philosophy of Jyotish remedies!

 

 

 

thanhs

with regards

pankaj

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

ps.... finally: check out my , where I've written articles on

how to strengtened

the Planets, and specifically even Saturn, the Moon, & Sun....

 

/

 

Look up articles in the 'Files' Section under the folder on Articles on

Planets....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

wrote:

> i am abslute naive to this field, some absolute prediction of some

> of the respected astrologer diverted my interest in this field

> Tbere prdictions are based on the planetary position when the

> native was born, no doubt some are very correct, then my question

is

>

> if everything in our life is going on is predecided as per the

> planetary position when we got birth (and the native is not

> responsible at all for the time and location, then what is the role

> of KARMA in his life?

>

>

> Dear Pankaj:

>

>

> You bring up, of course, a very important point. In life, there

exists both

> these qualities:

> pre-determinism, and freedom.

>

> At every stage of life, both these qualities co-exist.

>

> The growth of life, in fact, is towards more and more, freedom and

ability

> to rise up,

> above 'fate', alone.

>

> This problem, though is very deep, because intellectually, the

mind, or

> intellect wants to

> say, how can both co-exist?

>

> Either we have pre-conditionings, and no freedom of choice, or we

have

> freedom and everything

> is not pre-determined.

>

>

> See below:

>

>

>

> "12345" <jtobdg>

>

> Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:53:31 -0000

>

> Is really Jyotish vidya helping man?

>

>

> namaskar, to all respected astrologers,

> i am abslute naive to this field, some absolute prediction of some

> of the respected astrologer diverted my interest in this field

> Tbere prdictions are based on the planetary position when the

> native was born, no doubt some are very correct, then my question

is

>

> if everything in our life is going on is predecided as per the

> planetary position when we got birth (and the native is not

> responsible at all for the time and location, then what is the role

> of KARMA in his life?

>

> Karma of our charts are like seeds being planted.

>

> if we plant a banana seed, we're going to get a banana tree!

>

> However, we still have freedom, to either water it, or not.

>

> There lies our freedom, whether we work well with our charts, or

not.

>

> We do have freedom of choice.

>

>

> OR

> if his KARMA is as per his horo then why he is blame or

> appriciated for his deeds ?

>

> Because I believe in karma: "as you sow, so shall you reap", then

it

> follows that I believe

> in my ability to take responsibility and make even better actions

for

> myself.

>

> OR

> vice versa if the karmas are regulated by desitiny/horoscopes

> then can we change our destiny by our karm(deeds)?

>

>

> yes, not only do I believe we can, I also believe we're even born

to do this!

>

> We we're just born to be like puppets, living out the pre-

determined qualities, but,... to also, grow, improve and become

better!

In Jyotish, this is called the Remedial measures or remedies....

> OR

> the astrologers have only predictions do they have any solution

> for the welfare of mankind to neutralise the effects of planetary

> position?

>

> More and more interest is now being expressed all about this

aspect of

> Jyotish, called

> self-improvement.....

>

> I am sorry if my questions annoyed you. iwant to learn about

> this science your answers definatly help me and others like me

>

> No, this is a very important question, and if you check out past

messages,

> you'll come across

> many discussions about just this....

>

>

>

> thanks

> With regards

> pankaj

>

> I think this is one of the reasons for this great interest in this

group:

> "Jyotish Remedies",

>

> because this is the key to life, as well as Jyotish.

>

> If life was just our fate, then there wouldn't be any point.

>

> The fact that we can not only see the dangers on the horizon, but,

we can

> also learn how to

> avoid those dangers,...is the real purpose of Jyotish, and all

Vedic

> Science.

> >

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE

> OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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