Kind attn Mr Michael [re.group's decorum & $ to Astrologers]

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Dear Mr Michael,

 

I am sorry for such a late reply for my troubled net connection, but even then I

had to reply this post for I believe you have misunderstood my post you

mentioned in yours.

 

However I like the quality in you a lot for which you speak what you feel the

truth to be.

 

As per the case in concern, what you said that the client was not satisfied with

my 'past prediction' is not correct. What I wrote that my predictions differed

from other astrologers one whom he consulted, and since this differing

predictions were not so positive, he was dissatisfied. Then I JUSTIFY my

predictions showing that THEY MATCH with his past and other astrologers

predictions do not match THAT MUCH with his past and thus I could justify my

ones.

 

So what you have written about my predictions do not match to past, is

completely opposite to what happened.

 

I am very clear about the above paragraph and my original post in question can

be reviewed ; it was on June 21st.

 

The second thing that I sensed from your post was a slight dissatisfaction about

the performance of astrology (Or astrologers). I just wanted to say in this

regard that though astrologers often fail to tell the past, BUT their

predictions match more or less always WHICH is sufficient to prove the existence

and validity of astrology. It means that the things they tell by seeing the

chart is NOT POSSIBLE to tell just by guessing, which proves the validity of

astrology. And so it always helps more or less.

 

You will see that quizzes based on charts and asking 'What happened to this

native on this day' often / most of the times get successful answers which would

not be possible only through guessing because there are many sort of incidents

possible to happen to a person on a day. Even I could answer quizzes correctly

in this forum and also in another forum. However, I must say that I participate

in quizzes less, not for the fear of being unsuccessful but for small time. As

an example when I saw a lot of disagreement between astrologers about the last

US election result, I badly wanted to give an opinion but could never manage the

time.

 

I do not consider myself a damn expert in Jyotish and in 2001 I was more of a

beginner and novice. EVEN WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE I threw a challenge to all that

with only the birth data I would be able to tell something about the person

which is not possible only by guessing. And I was very successful with that,

some feedback on my site with their email addresses. (Many might have changed.)

That I did not to prove myself knowledgeable but to prove the validity of

astrology.

 

Thanks,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What cannot happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies

Where relief and solutions are found

 

 

 

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michael tee eng hui

Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: re.group's decorum & $ to Astrologers

 

 

ok then,

i know this is not a forum for advertisement

but since strong feelings have been expressed, why not

lay the cards on the table? If the service rendered is

not appropriate to be 'free' in nature why not tell

the charges. That is my humble opinion.

 

Whatever the explanation may be, whether paid or free

advice is as different as much as the people who ask

as the people who predict.

 

Most can't even predict past events accurately, how

can it be that they can predict future events. There

are people who can tell you this is what will happen

to you at this time, not you may be this or you may be

that.

 

Also there seem to be some biasness involved in that

those queries from the indian continent or western or

race are given priority. Correct me if I'm wrong but

that is what i observe. I don't agree with it but I

accept it. We are, after all, only human.

 

Some have been most kind and helpful in my queries but

others give superficial explanation. It is important

to suss out the genuine queries, equally important to

suss out the genuine people who gives the prediction.

 

Actually astrological advice, I feel should not be

free of charge, but the people who gives the

prediction must be experts - not just claim themselves

to be one.

 

I remember one of Mr. Tanvir's e-mail where it was

stated some people who consulted his advice did not

agree with his past predictions. I respect him for his

knowledge and spiritual experience and for his

relative young age, but why the disagreement?

 

I bought quite a few books from India to study

astrology. I met an indian spiritual man who does

predictions. He only requires the full name and

birthdate, not the birth time. It is his believe that

one must be able to communicate with the planets to

find the real situation, among others. I once

consulted him on a problem my friend had, he told me

that in his chart his 8th house is very weak(I asked

my friend for his birth time which confirmed this

using JHL 6). How does one know this without the bith

time. Hence my disappointment as I have come to

realise that unless the timing is accurate only

general predictions can be made. Only those gifted can

do the predictions accurately.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Tanvir,

 

I actually did not expect a reply from you, hence a

very pleasant surprise.

 

I stand corrected(by you) and believe your

explanation(which was not sought but probably my

statements needed correction).

 

You are right, in that I am not entirely satisfied

with people claiming to be astrologers, not with

astrology itself.The problem is that certain gifted

people can, how do one say, predict with accuracy -

with statements of you will face this, you will be

that, Not you may be this, you may face that and also

the reasons why you are facing certain situations.

This to me is important. More like a combination of

astrospiritualism(if there is such a word)

 

I do agree with the validity of astrology as you said,

and much more too. This is not my argument. Unless one

has that gift, just to do the prediction with the

chart alone may not yield the true picture.

 

Back in Dec 2000, something happened in my life and I

wanted to know WHY IT HAPPENED? Being stubborn that I

am, I wanted to find out the TRUTH. I found it in

astrology ALTHOUGH i have yet to study this divine

science indepth.

 

"I threw a challenge to all that with only the birth

data I would be able to tell something about the

person which is not possible only by guessing"

 

This statement of your is intriguing, to say the

least. Most tempted to give you my birth data but I

think I will refrain No need to impose on your kind

generosity.

 

Thank you for your kind reply, much appreciated.

 

michael

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Michael,

 

I am glad that you took my post in positive way that many don't.

 

Thanks

Tanvir

 

 

 

What cannot happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies

Where relief and solutions are found

 

-

michael tee eng hui

Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:13 PM

Re: Kind attn Mr Michael [re.group's decorum & $ to Astrologers]

 

 

Dear Mr. Tanvir,

 

I actually did not expect a reply from you, hence a

very pleasant surprise.

 

I stand corrected(by you) and believe your

explanation(which was not sought but probably my

statements needed correction).

 

You are right, in that I am not entirely satisfied

with people claiming to be astrologers, not with

astrology itself.The problem is that certain gifted

people can, how do one say, predict with accuracy -

with statements of you will face this, you will be

that, Not you may be this, you may face that and also

the reasons why you are facing certain situations.

This to me is important. More like a combination of

astrospiritualism(if there is such a word)

 

I do agree with the validity of astrology as you said,

and much more too. This is not my argument. Unless one

has that gift, just to do the prediction with the

chart alone may not yield the true picture.

 

Back in Dec 2000, something happened in my life and I

wanted to know WHY IT HAPPENED? Being stubborn that I

am, I wanted to find out the TRUTH. I found it in

astrology ALTHOUGH i have yet to study this divine

science indepth.

 

"I threw a challenge to all that with only the birth

data I would be able to tell something about the

person which is not possible only by guessing"

 

This statement of your is intriguing, to say the

least. Most tempted to give you my birth data but I

think I will refrain No need to impose on your kind

generosity.

 

Thank you for your kind reply, much appreciated.

 

michael