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ashutoshji namestee,

i am sorry for being one the member who sent u mail privately.

actually i am learning astrology from last two month by self reading

and at present i don't know much about it. my freind for very much in

need and he does not believe in astrology. but after getting the

first reply from u about his problem he was stunned and he made so

many quaries. what ever replies he recieved regarding his problem ur

reply was the accurate and therfore he want the further quaries reply

from only u. there fore, i give u so many private mails (what i fell

is that matter is very sensitive and with my help if he get some

solution which is feasible his life will be happy) .

i agree with u that for such personal quaries one should pay. i have

given ur email id to my friend and he will conatact u in near future

whenever he will come to delhi. he wants to meet u personally.

i am sorry for it and in future i will take care of it.

i hope that u can understand my position.

i also hope that i will get reply from u in future reading my quaries

which i will POST ON GROUP ONLY (Maxium of these will be related to

my doubt comes during study).

 

Milan

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Milanji,

 

Although this email is addressed to Ashutoshji, I am expressing my view. I see

no harm in personal emails provided there is a reason for it. ( Like no response

from Group , Matter too personal to be discussed etc ). Also the language in

this kind of email should be polite and not demanding.

 

In last few years I have even developed good friendship with some of my clients

and although their problem is resolved now, they like to keep in touch to say

hello. I have even met few of them when I traveled to their county or they have

met me in India. Those from India call up sometimes , send SMS and meet when

they travel to my place. So I am very happy with these newly acquired friends.

 

Regards,

 

Anil

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milan_elza

Monday, July 11, 2005 6:21 AM

Re: group's decorum

 

 

ashutoshji namestee,

i am sorry for being one the member who sent u mail privately.

actually i am learning astrology from last two month by self reading

and at present i don't know much about it. my freind for very much in

need and he does not believe in astrology. but after getting the

first reply from u about his problem he was stunned and he made so

many quaries. what ever replies he recieved regarding his problem ur

reply was the accurate and therfore he want the further quaries reply

from only u. there fore, i give u so many private mails (what i fell

is that matter is very sensitive and with my help if he get some

solution which is feasible his life will be happy) .

i agree with u that for such personal quaries one should pay. i have

given ur email id to my friend and he will conatact u in near future

whenever he will come to delhi. he wants to meet u personally.

i am sorry for it and in future i will take care of it.

i hope that u can understand my position.

i also hope that i will get reply from u in future reading my quaries

which i will POST ON GROUP ONLY (Maxium of these will be related to

my doubt comes during study).

 

Milan

]

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

 

b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Milan,

Your friend's problem were sensitive and required personal

guidance. But, after the queries have been answered one should always revert

back to the group. Otherwise, there will be no one posting and answering queries

on the group.

 

Dakshina is a formality which respects the time, effort and knowledge of

a teacher or an astrologer. Here in Delhi I have many friends who are

astrologers. An astrologer is always negatively or positively biased about his

own horoscope. So, we seek each other's guidance. Believe it, dakshina is paid

there too. I have paid fees and have received fees too. By paying dakshina we

are respecting jyotish vidya as a science and as a profession.

 

When a religious person goes to temple he puts some coins in the

daan-peti and also distributes the prasad after offering it to gods. There also,

some sort of fees is paid.

 

In this group, for discussion purposes, all knowledge is free. But, when

seeking personal one-to-one guidance, always be ready to pay the fees. That way

a professional and well-meaning bond will develop between the astrologer and

you.

 

 

I have many clients whom I have met through astrological groups only.

Some have met me personally while with some online chat and mails are the only

means of contact.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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milan_elza

Monday, July 11, 2005 06:21

Re: group's decorum

 

 

ashutoshji namestee,

i am sorry for being one the member who sent u mail privately.

actually i am learning astrology from last two month by self reading

and at present i don't know much about it. my freind for very much in

need and he does not believe in astrology. but after getting the

first reply from u about his problem he was stunned and he made so

many quaries. what ever replies he recieved regarding his problem ur

reply was the accurate and therfore he want the further quaries reply

from only u. there fore, i give u so many private mails (what i fell

is that matter is very sensitive and with my help if he get some

solution which is feasible his life will be happy) .

i agree with u that for such personal quaries one should pay. i have

given ur email id to my friend and he will conatact u in near future

whenever he will come to delhi. he wants to meet u personally.

i am sorry for it and in future i will take care of it.

i hope that u can understand my position.

i also hope that i will get reply from u in future reading my quaries

which i will POST ON GROUP ONLY (Maxium of these will be related to

my doubt comes during study).

 

Milan

]

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

 

b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was wondering what are the fees for the professional

astrologers in this group?

 

Mike

 

--- jugal joshi <jjugal wrote:

 

>  

> Dear All

>

> Let me be very clear that I had no intention

> whatsoever which made some of the members on the

> group take things otherwise.

>

> Only reason for addressing a specific person on the

> group - because probably I am comfortable that way.

>

> And I do respect the rights of the members to reply

> to a query or not.

>

> In case they want to charge for the services let

> them make clear the terms for services and their

> mail ids for the purpose. Even I do believe there is

> nothing called free lunch in this world.

>

> Thanks N Regards

>

> Jugal

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 Astrologer Ashutosh wrote :

> >Dear Anil,

> > Most of these mails on my

> private-id are about simple problems like marriage

> and job. I have come to know that the senders of

> these mails send them privately to almost everyone,

> whom they find answering mails on the group.

> >

> > I have answered some delicate issues in

> some mails. But, many are normal problems and after

> getting six to seven subsequent mails from them, I

> was forced to ask them to join my clientage

> formally. After that, the mails always stop. These

> people have no respect for an astrologer's time and

> efforts. They just want to gather as much

> information from as many people as possible for free

> and that too privately.

> >

> > Even on the group, the rationale should be

> given if it is asked for. Otherwise, there is no

> need to further confuse an individual, who wants

> simple and straight answers, by astrological

> rhetorics and reasonings.

> >

> > But, when discussing an astrological rule

> or yoga, every detail and reason is valuable.

> >

> >

> >

> Regards,

> >

> >

>

> Ashutosh.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Anil VSNL

> >

> > Sunday, July 10, 2005 14:01

> > Re: Re: group's decorum

> >

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I think all the astrologers get personal

> requests . There could be many reasons. One is if in

> forum one does not get response , then the client

> sends personal email in which the client can share

> more information, second is sometimes a particular

> astrologer seems to be answering queries related to

> particular type of problem well. Like in my case

> when I answered few cases involving matrimonial life

> problems and psychological illnesses in my postings,

> I was flooded with private emails.

> >

> > As I am not professional astrologer , I take

> lenient view. I decide based on urgency and

> seriousness of the case whether to entertain

> personal client and with what priority. In fact in

> some cases I have replied personally as I though

> some finding were too personal in nature to be

> posted on the forum.

> >

> > Another advantage is that in one to one

> interactions you do not have to give rationale

> behind the analysis which saves time.

> >

> > So I think it depends on how look at it.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Anil

> > -

> > arjun pandit

> >

> > Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:46 PM

> > Re: Re: group's decorum

> >

> >

> > dear friends

> > I too echoed similar sentiments some time ago.

> these days there are so many astrologers available

> on this group answering simple readings freely. if

> people write to the personal mail Ids for specific

> personal or sensitive issues, they shall do so only

> if they are willing to pay the dakshina.

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > Astrologer Ashutosh

> <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> > Dear Group members,

> >

> > I am not

> pleased by this kind of posts addressing me

> directly. Only when I have answered the query,

> direct addressing should be done for further

> clarifications.

> >

> > I have been getting off-group mails

> also. Please note that I am a professional

> astrologer and, most of the times, I am busy with my

> regular clients, online and in person also. I will

> be forced to ask for my fees for such personal

> off-group consultations. If anyone feels like having

> private consultations, he or she should be ready to

> pay the dakshina too. Nothing wrong in it.

> >

> > This group functions as a platform for

> astrological discussions. Please maintain the

> decorum of this group and do not try to create

> sections by direct addressal of the problems to any

> one astrologer. All astrologers here are providing

> free guidance with no personal gains in their minds.

> >

> > If the mails are addresses to me,

> other astrologers will not feel like responding to

> it, even when they have solutions to the queries.

> So, an open post to all members will invite more and

> better answers.

> >

> >

>

> Ashutosh.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > jugal joshi

> >

> > Saturday, July 09, 2005 20:06

> > Re: Re: match making

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sri Astrologer Ashutosh,

> >

> > I have been facing some roadblocks in my

> professional and career life (like delays or desired

> things not getting fulfilled). Wish u could guide me

> to overcome the same.

> >

> > Shall I go for some business and if so, what

> kind of activity will suit me the best. My tob,pob

> and dob are as follows:

> >

> > tob: 20.00 Hrs

> > pob: Nagaur (Rajasthan) 27.30N & 74.20E

> > dob: 20/08/1973.

> >

> > your guidance is very valuable for me.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jugal

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Mike,

 

Will it not be more appropriate to ask this question directly

to the astrologer on his private e-mail id? The fees can vary from astrologer to

astrologer.

 

Ashutosh.

 

 

 

 

-

michael tee eng hui

Monday, July 11, 2005 14:43

Re: Re: Re: group's decorum

 

 

I was wondering what are the fees for the professional

astrologers in this group?

 

Mike

 

--- jugal joshi <jjugal wrote:

 

>

> Dear All

>

> Let me be very clear that I had no intention

> whatsoever which made some of the members on the

> group take things otherwise.

>

> Only reason for addressing a specific person on the

> group - because probably I am comfortable that way.

>

> And I do respect the rights of the members to reply

> to a query or not.

>

> In case they want to charge for the services let

> them make clear the terms for services and their

> mail ids for the purpose. Even I do believe there is

> nothing called free lunch in this world.

>

> Thanks N Regards

>

> Jugal

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 Astrologer Ashutosh wrote :

> >Dear Anil,

> > Most of these mails on my

> private-id are about simple problems like marriage

> and job. I have come to know that the senders of

> these mails send them privately to almost everyone,

> whom they find answering mails on the group.

> >

> > I have answered some delicate issues in

> some mails. But, many are normal problems and after

> getting six to seven subsequent mails from them, I

> was forced to ask them to join my clientage

> formally. After that, the mails always stop. These

> people have no respect for an astrologer's time and

> efforts. They just want to gather as much

> information from as many people as possible for free

> and that too privately.

> >

> > Even on the group, the rationale should be

> given if it is asked for. Otherwise, there is no

> need to further confuse an individual, who wants

> simple and straight answers, by astrological

> rhetorics and reasonings.

> >

> > But, when discussing an astrological rule

> or yoga, every detail and reason is valuable.

> >

> >

> >

> Regards,

> >

> >

>

> Ashutosh.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Anil VSNL

> >

> > Sunday, July 10, 2005 14:01

> > Re: Re: group's decorum

> >

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I think all the astrologers get personal

> requests . There could be many reasons. One is if in

> forum one does not get response , then the client

> sends personal email in which the client can share

> more information, second is sometimes a particular

> astrologer seems to be answering queries related to

> particular type of problem well. Like in my case

> when I answered few cases involving matrimonial life

> problems and psychological illnesses in my postings,

> I was flooded with private emails.

> >

> > As I am not professional astrologer , I take

> lenient view. I decide based on urgency and

> seriousness of the case whether to entertain

> personal client and with what priority. In fact in

> some cases I have replied personally as I though

> some finding were too personal in nature to be

> posted on the forum.

> >

> > Another advantage is that in one to one

> interactions you do not have to give rationale

> behind the analysis which saves time.

> >

> > So I think it depends on how look at it.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Anil

> > -

> > arjun pandit

> >

> > Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:46 PM

> > Re: Re: group's decorum

> >

> >

> > dear friends

> > I too echoed similar sentiments some time ago.

> these days there are so many astrologers available

> on this group answering simple readings freely. if

> people write to the personal mail Ids for specific

> personal or sensitive issues, they shall do so only

> if they are willing to pay the dakshina.

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > Astrologer Ashutosh

> <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> > Dear Group members,

> >

> > I am not

> pleased by this kind of posts addressing me

> directly. Only when I have answered the query,

> direct addressing should be done for further

> clarifications.

> >

> > I have been getting off-group mails

> also. Please note that I am a professional

> astrologer and, most of the times, I am busy with my

> regular clients, online and in person also. I will

> be forced to ask for my fees for such personal

> off-group consultations. If anyone feels like having

> private consultations, he or she should be ready to

> pay the dakshina too. Nothing wrong in it.

> >

> > This group functions as a platform for

> astrological discussions. Please maintain the

> decorum of this group and do not try to create

> sections by direct addressal of the problems to any

> one astrologer. All astrologers here are providing

> free guidance with no personal gains in their minds.

> >

> > If the mails are addresses to me,

> other astrologers will not feel like responding to

> it, even when they have solutions to the queries.

> So, an open post to all members will invite more and

> better answers.

> >

> >

>

> Ashutosh.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > jugal joshi

> >

> > Saturday, July 09, 2005 20:06

> > Re: Re: match making

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sri Astrologer Ashutosh,

> >

> > I have been facing some roadblocks in my

> professional and career life (like delays or desired

> things not getting fulfilled). Wish u could guide me

> to overcome the same.

> >

> > Shall I go for some business and if so, what

> kind of activity will suit me the best. My tob,pob

> and dob are as follows:

> >

> > tob: 20.00 Hrs

> > pob: Nagaur (Rajasthan) 27.30N & 74.20E

> > dob: 20/08/1973.

> >

> > your guidance is very valuable for me.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jugal

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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__

Sell on Auctions - no fees. Bid on great items.

http://auctions./

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

 

b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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