CUSTODIAN OF KNOWLEDGE ON SAVARA TANTRA.

[Guest guest]

Mr. Tutu,

 

You appear to be assuming that the Kavach referred in this thread of

messages is SAVARA TANTRA- some KSHUDRA DEVATA, the information of

which is with your family for the last four generations.

 

However, your suggestions of satwik means are good. r

 

Kavach has many dimensions and it is not necessary that the Kavachs

offered by others are same as in the info with your family.

 

The matter revolves back to condemning something without experience

and knowing. God bless you.

 

Raj K

 

 

, "Tutu" <omkrishnaguru>

wrote:

> Dear friends,

>

> I am limiting myself to the use of KAVACH regarding.

> My family in possession of these KAVACH information since last 4-

5

> generations- it is a part of SAVARA TANTRA- some KSHUDRA DEVATA

> (demigods/ ghosts/ spirits had to satisifed by means of doing some

> secret sadhana/ pooja/japam).

>

> These spirits/ghosts use their powers of STHAMBHAN to put a check

on

> the negative results of the planets/ as well as on the powers of

our

> PITRI(our forefathers- as believed in Hindu mythology- live in a

> world called PITRILOK - which is particularly not

ethically/socially

> accepted by all.

>

> Being brahmin, my ancestors (grandfather/ father ) never made any

> effort to use these -ghost/spirit worship etc.- on ethical/

morality

> ground. This system of remedy is not approved by the Rishis like

> Parasara, Bhrigu or any classical authors on astrology.

>

> Rather than using KAVACH

>

>

> other SATTIWIK means of remedy

>

> on good work/service/ helping needy people

>

> taking care of plants and wearing plant roots for

> strengthening/pacification of plaents

>

> prayer

>

> wearing of good quality gemstones after a proper anlaysis of the

> horoscope if found favourable

>

> AS ALL THE SORROWS/ MISERIES OF THIS BIRTH ARE RESULT OF OUR PAST

BAD

> ACTIONS/ KARMA

>

> ONLY OUR PRESENT GOOD KARMA along with some SATTIWIK form of

remedies

> are always preferable.

>

> All these SATTIWIK forms of remedies are sanctioned by the great

> classical authorities like PARASHARA AND BHRIGU etc.

>

> I can help people staying near Delhi/Gurgaon- in use of plant

roots

> (Mooladi Dharana as prescribed in BPHS)-

>

> The plant leaves/roots are as following:-

>

> For Sun- Bel (Hindi name)- Billow (sanskrit name), Saphed Aak

(Hindi),

> Sweta Arkh(sanskrit name)

> For Moon- Chandal(Sandal)and Katha(Hindi name), Khadira(sanskrit

name)

> For Jupiter-Bhramhayashti (sanskrit name)/ Punnarnava(sanskrit),

> Satti (Hindi), Vishkhapara(Hindi)

> For Venus- Vasa or Vasak(Hindi as well as sanskrit name)and Palas

> (sanskrit) Teshu/ Keshu(Hindi)

> For Saturn- Shami(sanskrit), Kikar(Hindi), Griha Amlaki(sanskit, i

do

> not know the Hindi equivalent of this grass)- the list is not

limited-

> there are a number of alteranative which work nicely.

> -

---

> How to wear:

> Please take out some roots of the required plant from the NORTHERN

OR

> EASTERN SIDE ROOTS OF THE PLANTS- in good time(Muhurta) having

Siddhi

> Yoga or Pushyami NAKSHTRA in the day of the planet- whose

> strengthening etc. is required.

>

> or when the planet is in the lagna/ 10th cusp and its stellar

> dispositor is well placed from your own lagna

>

> or in the BRAHMA MUHURTA and wear it close to your skin by means

of a

> thread.

>

> Edible parts of the plants can also be eaten regularly if they

> supplement the quality of the plaent- for example during weak

period-

> subperiod of the Sun- one can take a few BEL LEAVES to strengthen

his

> digestion and stomach. Eating og BEL FRUITS- will cure -impotency

in

> males.

>

> For weak venus- regulr intake of Vasak Leave Juice, for weakness

of

> sperm- drink prepared of the PALASHA FLOWERS,

>

> For affliction of venus- the extract of SHAMI TREE CALLED GONDH IN

> HINDI IN THE NORTHERN BELT- used frequently to counter the

impotency

> created by affliction from the Saturn/ Satunine signs.

> -

---

>

> People living in Delhi/Gurgaon area can contact me. I will be

happy

> to help them to personally know and recognise these plants- to be

> used for their non-commercial/ personal benefits.

>

>

> With regards to all,

>

> M.Tripathy,

> Delhi

[Guest guest]

Hello :

 

I require strict clarification from you about your sentence

 

"The matter revolves back to condemning something without experience and

knowing. "

 

Be very specific and clear about what you meant by this "revolving back". Your

posting privileges and membership itself depends on your clarification so take

it seriously.

 

I have been observing your tendencies to refer to SA groups with their addresses

with less or no relevance time to time, which I have been letting go. But such

subtle pinch and following those "modern day sages" in very intellectual ways

would have to be stopped now.

 

Do not think messages would be overlooked by me, or subtle hints in messages

would not be understood by me. If you do - you are wrong.

 

Tanvir

 

 

 

What cannot happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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rajk1959

Monday, July 04, 2005 5:56 PM

Re: CUSTODIAN OF KNOWLEDGE ON SAVARA TANTRA.

 

 

Mr. Tutu,

 

You appear to be assuming that the Kavach referred in this thread of

messages is SAVARA TANTRA- some KSHUDRA DEVATA, the information of

which is with your family for the last four generations.

 

However, your suggestions of satwik means are good. r

 

Kavach has many dimensions and it is not necessary that the Kavachs

offered by others are same as in the info with your family.

 

The matter revolves back to condemning something without experience

and knowing. God bless you.

 

Raj K

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

 

The KAVACH where some numbers are to be engraved on metal plates of

Bhujuapatra or similar sort of materials- undisputablty comes in the

SAVARA TANTRA- I have gone throught the numbers written on these

KAVACH available in the market and compared them with that available

in the SAVARA TANTRA- they are 100% identical !!!

 

 

Of course i am not definitely refering here to the KAVACH prepared

after doing a definite number of SHATARUDRA (RUDRABHISHEKAM) japam/

recitation og GAYATRI MANTRA and other similar good/ sattwik means-

where the wearer of the KAVACH is forced to observe some moral code

of conduct/ actions- like abstinence from liquor/drinks/ extramarital

sexual relationships(for example while doing remedies for bad effects

of planets- such as CHANDIPATH, HANUMAN PARAYAN, DATTATREYA STOTRA

AND MANTRA /MAHA MRITYUNJAY MANTRA - etc. the wearer of the KAVACH

must make changes in his ways of living first to avail the maximum

benefits of these remedial measures- THE KAVACH OF SAVARA TANTRA does

not prescribes for any such thing on the part of the wearer.

 

 

My empahsis is only to say that ONLY OUR PRESENT GOOD ACTIONS CAN -

TO SOME EXTENT NEUTRALISE THE RESULT OF OUR PAST BAD ACTIONS- which

are just indicated by the position of planets in our horoscopes. Some

or our previous actions which are of very SERIOUS/GRAVE even may not

get neutralised despite performance of remedial measures.

 

All this has to be assessed from the controlling influence of the

trine lords/ Jupiter (except when it is a functional malefic) over

the other planets.

 

If the trine lords are rather under control of the other planets the

person has to suffer- the remedial actions may not be much effective.

 

M.Tripathy,

Delhi

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

 

Whether the number engravings on KAVACH etc. comes under the SAVARA

TANTRA or GRAHA STHAMBHAN comes or not under any TANTRA should not

given much importance.

 

 

There are some nice people also- who even by the SAVARA TANTRA by

doing GRAHA STHAMBHAN (temporary blocking of the bad effects of the

planets for a limited period, say 2-3 months only, when the effects

are expected to be most severe) are doing a lot of benefit to a

number of needy people.

 

ONE SUCH PERSON I KNOW IS-

 

Shri Gopinath of Rajendra Park, Gurgaon

 

who is already over 70 years of age.

 

He even now used to do GRAHA STHAMBHAN and PITRI STHAMBHAN (for

very short duration only- just to allow the individual to amend his

own errornous actions) for the benefit of needy people.

 

He does not does any sort of advertisement for his jobs/ knowledge. A

very humble and rural in his approach towards the people who come to

meet them. For no charges no fees !!!

 

I am providing the address of this noble and humble being

for the benefit of needy people staying near Delhi/Gurgaon.

 

SHRU GOPI BABA (people used call him Baba affectionately, he is

actually a householder man, not a renounced one)

BABA NIRBHAY DAS ASHRAM,

NEAR THE FAMOUS BABA PRAKASH PURI'S ASHRAM OF GURGAON)

NEAR ROYAL OAK INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL

NEW PALAM VIHAR, PHASE-II,

GURGAON-122001

 

M.Tripathy,

Delhi