Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Myself Rupinder Singh, Would like to tell you to accept the challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge of Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. Our Challenge: Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – those males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm prints or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct the minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long longitudes. This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants our reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or her winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur contestants chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money and energy. 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication will be made with anyone who fails to do so. 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will be tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests will be held in our local town. 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be refunded with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to our fullest satisfaction. 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at my E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku If anyone says that he don't need Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove that your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. I will be waiting for your reply. Please feel free to contact me at rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. , "rupinderrinku" <rupinderrinku> wrote: > Myself Rupinder Singh, > Would like to tell you to accept the > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge of > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > Our Challenge: > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – those > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm prints > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct the > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long longitudes. > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants our > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or her > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur contestants > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money and > energy. > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication will > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will be > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests will > be held in our local town. > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be refunded > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to our > fullest satisfaction. > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at my > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > If anyone says that he don't need > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove that > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. I > will be waiting for your reply. > Please feel free to contact me at > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear all, Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and need of troublesome persons. MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS Kuldhir Singh Bhati Kota,RAJATHAN On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > >, "rupinderrinku" ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge >of > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – those > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm >prints > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct >the > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long >longitudes. > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants >our > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or >her > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur >contestants > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money >and > > energy. > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication >will > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will >be > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests >will > > be held in our local town. > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be >refunded > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to >our > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at >my > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove >that > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. >I > > will be waiting for your reply. > > Please feel free to contact me at > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear Rupinder Singh, Nice try to earn Rs. 3000/- from people by challenging them and their knowledge. Request you to search for GREEDY Astrologers to accept your challenge. Regards, Anand Bhatt On 2 Jul 2005 13:20:16 -0000, kuldhir singh bhati < kuldhir_singh wrote: > > Dear all, > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by owner > and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in any kind of > money earning profession but rather to discuss something serious.I request > Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and need of troublesome > persons. > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > >earning the money.it <http://money.it/> is wastage of time of group > member and it > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > >of > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – those > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > >prints > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct > >the > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > >longitudes. > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > >our > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or > >her > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > >contestants > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money > >and > > > energy. > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > >will > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will > >be > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > >will > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > >refunded > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to > >our > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at > >my > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > >that > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. > >I > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "<>" > on the web. > - > <-@g\ roups.com?subject=Un> > - Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear members of this Astrology group, I would like tell you that i belong to Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the astrology but just to have faith in it. Our tarksheel society has exposed so many Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. Moreover as you said that its a way for us to earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of astrology cannot come infront of people. Anyway i am student in a medical college, and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know that astrology is just a fraud. Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated generation it is named as Astrology Science." From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. If any astrologist would have told to the people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never any astrologer have predicted about them. Can any astrologist by seeing the situation of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze medals. World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? Science has proved this fact that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the future of human being. At last I request to all the people that you should not waste your money which you have got by your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. - Rupinder Singh rationalist2005 , "kuldhir singh bhati" <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > Dear all, > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and need of troublesome persons. > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > >of > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – those > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > >prints > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct > >the > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > >longitudes. > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > >our > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or > >her > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > >contestants > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money > >and > > > energy. > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > >will > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will > >be > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > >will > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > >refunded > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to > >our > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at > >my > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > >that > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. > >I > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Hello Mr. Rupinder, Jyotish is an ancient knowledge. Though there is great truth in what you say. Many a times people with half baked knowledge start practicing as astrologers. Jyotish is the science of indications. People do get benefit out of it and that is why people know this science. But the way you are taking it up is also not the right way to attack an ancient science. Guru Nanak said, Nanak dukhia sab sansar - soi sukhi jinuh naam aadhar. People are in trouble from time immemoratial and people are getting benefitted out of it. With the help of the free access facility created by the subject is being discussed among learned person and this science is also getting developed. There is another group on SATVA101 (for subscription one can send e mail: - ) where in one of the recent messages one of the Cancer specialists was quoted as under: QUOTE I am a cancer specialist working in Tata Memorial Hospital, Mumbai. Tata Memorial Hospital is India's largest cancer center.We treat around 26,000 cancers every year and our work is nationally and internationally acclaimed. We have a astrology related hypothesis that we wants to test in cancer patients. The hypothesis is "Is outcome in cancer patients predetermined?" He wants to conduct a study in our hospital to test this hypothesis. We would really appreciate if you could help us in testing this hypothesis. Your participation in this novel study will offer a higher degree of authenticity.I hope you will not disappoint us. UNQUOTE So, today even the scientific and medical community is opening its mind to test the efficacy of the ancient wisdom of jyotish. I hope your society also continues to expose the quacks in astrology and helps in restoration of the ancient wisdom for greater benefit of humanity. Raj K , "rupinderrinku" <rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Dear members of this Astrology group, > I would like tell you that i belong to > Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are > saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong > and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works > for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare > of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of > these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because > it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your > astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the > astrology but just to have faith in it. > Our tarksheel society has exposed so many > Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one > won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. > Moreover as you said that its a way for us to > earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to > pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our > challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of > astrology cannot come infront of people. > Anyway i am student in a medical college, > and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online > because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront > of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know > that astrology is just a fraud. > Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book > that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated > generation it is named as Astrology Science." > From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and > famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at > Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just > after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of > people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died > because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs > or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. > But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of > Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. > If any astrologist would have told to the > people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful > incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, > volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never > any astrologer have predicted about them. > Can any astrologist by seeing the situation > of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any > asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze > medals. > World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had > just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? > Science has proved this fact > that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed > hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the > future of human being. > At last I request to all the > people that you should not waste your money which you have got by > your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste > your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the > astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on > his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. > > - Rupinder Singh > rationalist2005 > > , "kuldhir singh bhati" > <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by > owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in > any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something > serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and > need of troublesome persons. > > > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the > astrological > > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of > serious > > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > > >of > > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – > those > > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > > >prints > > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth > correct > > >the > > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > > >longitudes. > > > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > > >our > > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. > We > > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his > or > > >her > > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > > >contestants > > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, > money > > >and > > > > energy. > > > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > > >will > > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person > will > > >be > > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > > >will > > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his > deposit > > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > > >refunded > > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up > to > > >our > > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me > at > > >my > > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > > >that > > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your > Astrolgy. > > >I > > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Hello raj ji, In a recentsurvey of medical professionals and patients conducted,it was found that faith in religion and God to continue in the world.it is not uncommon fopr Doctors to suggest that we do our best and leave the rest to God suggesting to the patients to pray for life. As far as chronic illness and terminally diseased Astrology has lot to contribute.we have to consider the cases where 6th house along with ascedents affliction.Role of Saturn in these prolonged cases of illness along with rahu have to be assessed. To universalise and make conclusions scietifically based on Astrology may not be appropriate but the Charts do indicate such cases of terminal illness influenced by marak dasas. The study can only be passive as at present. For the last year and half i was going through the case of throat cancer of my friends father,the remedial measures being followed throgh Astrological approach have been working.This what I can say.May be the details can be added if the patient improves further,which is likely. krishnan rajk1959 <yna wrote: Hello Mr. Rupinder, Jyotish is an ancient knowledge. Though there is great truth in what you say. Many a times people with half baked knowledge start practicing as astrologers. Jyotish is the science of indications. People do get benefit out of it and that is why people know this science. But the way you are taking it up is also not the right way to attack an ancient science. Guru Nanak said, Nanak dukhia sab sansar - soi sukhi jinuh naam aadhar. People are in trouble from time immemoratial and people are getting benefitted out of it. With the help of the free access facility created by the subject is being discussed among learned person and this science is also getting developed. There is another group on SATVA101 (for subscription one can send e mail: - ) where in one of the recent messages one of the Cancer specialists was quoted as under: QUOTE I am a cancer specialist working in Tata Memorial Hospital, Mumbai. Tata Memorial Hospital is India's largest cancer center.We treat around 26,000 cancers every year and our work is nationally and internationally acclaimed. We have a astrology related hypothesis that we wants to test in cancer patients. The hypothesis is "Is outcome in cancer patients predetermined?" He wants to conduct a study in our hospital to test this hypothesis. We would really appreciate if you could help us in testing this hypothesis. Your participation in this novel study will offer a higher degree of authenticity.I hope you will not disappoint us. UNQUOTE So, today even the scientific and medical community is opening its mind to test the efficacy of the ancient wisdom of jyotish. I hope your society also continues to expose the quacks in astrology and helps in restoration of the ancient wisdom for greater benefit of humanity. Raj K , "rupinderrinku" <rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Dear members of this Astrology group, > I would like tell you that i belong to > Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are > saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong > and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works > for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare > of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of > these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because > it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your > astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the > astrology but just to have faith in it. > Our tarksheel society has exposed so many > Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one > won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. > Moreover as you said that its a way for us to > earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to > pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our > challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of > astrology cannot come infront of people. > Anyway i am student in a medical college, > and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online > because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront > of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know > that astrology is just a fraud. > Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book > that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated > generation it is named as Astrology Science." > From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and > famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at > Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just > after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of > people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died > because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs > or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. > But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of > Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. > If any astrologist would have told to the > people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful > incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, > volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never > any astrologer have predicted about them. > Can any astrologist by seeing the situation > of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any > asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze > medals. > World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had > just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? > Science has proved this fact > that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed > hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the > future of human being. > At last I request to all the > people that you should not waste your money which you have got by > your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste > your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the > astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on > his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. > > - Rupinder Singh > rationalist2005 > > , "kuldhir singh bhati" > <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by > owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in > any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something > serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and > need of troublesome persons. > > > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the > astrological > > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of > serious > > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > > >of > > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – > those > > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > > >prints > > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth > correct > > >the > > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > > >longitudes. > > > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > > >our > > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. > We > > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his > or > > >her > > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > > >contestants > > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, > money > > >and > > > > energy. > > > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > > >will > > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person > will > > >be > > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > > >will > > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his > deposit > > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > > >refunded > > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up > to > > >our > > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me > at > > >my > > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > > >that > > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your > Astrolgy. > > >I > > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear Rupinder Rinku, It is very easy to call yourself a rationalist. All one has to do is to critices and oppose whatever one has not understood or one does not want to understand. Astrology is a lot different from occult or tantra. You can expose tantriks but there is nothing to be exposed about astrology. Most of the good astrologers are highly educated and literate people. They have chosen astrology not out of the desire to fleece the comman man but to understand and solve his problems in a better way. I am a psychologist by education. Astrology has given me more understanding about human behaviour and life than psychology. Believe it or not, most of my clients are very educated people like doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. And you do not stand in any way near them in education and wisdom. Astrology is an ocean. Standing by the shore anyone can make all kinds of noises. To experience the beauties of ocean, one has to dive into it. People with least knowledge make the best critics. But everything cannot be proven in laboratory. Further, when the results of tests are to take effect after a period of time ranging from days to months, it becomes more difficult. Talking about what Mahatma Gandhi said, we study his horoscope too like anyone else's. To be very frank, his horoscope shows his negative sides of personality also, which if explained, can destroy his image as a Mahatma. But, the positive side overshadows his dark one and we are concerned with that only. During my college days, I along with some of my friends, had formed a rationalist society in Ahmedabad. But, we used to expose people who are not astrologers and are scaring people for their own gains. I was as astrologer then, I am an astrologer now also. We do not accept any challenge. If you are quaified enough to criticise us, we have thousands of satisfied people who can vouch for the efficacy of astrology. And these people are more scientific minded and qualified than you. It will be better if you try to learn jyotish and then criticise it with logical arguments. Putting up rewards and fees for contests will not serve any purpose except cheap propoganda of your society. For a moment, imagine that astrology is useless, then you are justified in your actions. But, for a moment, if it is useful for mankind, then is it a wise step to degrade this science like this. I am an athiest, but an astrologer. I do not believe in any religion. When you cannot stop people from visiting holy places, which if taken scientifically can be termed as foolishness, then how can you try to malign astrology. Sciences like meteorology have always failed to predict weather. Still, they are considered sciences and are funded by governments. Think logically, learn jyotish and then try to criticise it. We do not give any importance to ignorant sceptics. Ashutosh. - rupinderrinku Saturday, July 02, 2005 23:12 Re: OUR CHALLENGE Dear members of this Astrology group, I would like tell you that i belong to Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the astrology but just to have faith in it. Our tarksheel society has exposed so many Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. Moreover as you said that its a way for us to earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of astrology cannot come infront of people. Anyway i am student in a medical college, and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know that astrology is just a fraud. Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated generation it is named as Astrology Science." From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. If any astrologist would have told to the people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never any astrologer have predicted about them. Can any astrologist by seeing the situation of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze medals. World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? Science has proved this fact that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the future of human being. At last I request to all the people that you should not waste your money which you have got by your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. - Rupinder Singh rationalist2005 , "kuldhir singh bhati" <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > Dear all, > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and need of troublesome persons. > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > >of > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > Pick out correctly - Within a Margin of five percent error - those > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > >prints > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct > >the > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > >longitudes. > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > >our > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or > >her > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > >contestants > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money > >and > > > energy. > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > >will > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will > >be > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > >will > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > >refunded > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to > >our > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at > >my > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > >that > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. > >I > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. 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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear Asutoshji, Very well written. This was the best and most positive of the replies I have seen on this nasty subject. What is sacry is that this moron will one day become a doctor and be let loose on society. Soumit Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: Dear Rupinder Rinku, It is very easy to call yourself a rationalist. All one has to do is to critices and oppose whatever one has not understood or one does not want to understand. Astrology is a lot different from occult or tantra. You can expose tantriks but there is nothing to be exposed about astrology. Most of the good astrologers are highly educated and literate people. They have chosen astrology not out of the desire to fleece the comman man but to understand and solve his problems in a better way. I am a psychologist by education. Astrology has given me more understanding about human behaviour and life than psychology. Believe it or not, most of my clients are very educated people like doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. And you do not stand in any way near them in education and wisdom. Astrology is an ocean. Standing by the shore anyone can make all kinds of noises. To experience the beauties of ocean, one has to dive into it. People with least knowledge make the best critics. But everything cannot be proven in laboratory. Further, when the results of tests are to take effect after a period of time ranging from days to months, it becomes more difficult. Talking about what Mahatma Gandhi said, we study his horoscope too like anyone else's. To be very frank, his horoscope shows his negative sides of personality also, which if explained, can destroy his image as a Mahatma. But, the positive side overshadows his dark one and we are concerned with that only. During my college days, I along with some of my friends, had formed a rationalist society in Ahmedabad. But, we used to expose people who are not astrologers and are scaring people for their own gains. I was as astrologer then, I am an astrologer now also. We do not accept any challenge. If you are quaified enough to criticise us, we have thousands of satisfied people who can vouch for the efficacy of astrology. And these people are more scientific minded and qualified than you. It will be better if you try to learn jyotish and then criticise it with logical arguments. Putting up rewards and fees for contests will not serve any purpose except cheap propoganda of your society. For a moment, imagine that astrology is useless, then you are justified in your actions. But, for a moment, if it is useful for mankind, then is it a wise step to degrade this science like this. I am an athiest, but an astrologer. I do not believe in any religion. When you cannot stop people from visiting holy places, which if taken scientifically can be termed as foolishness, then how can you try to malign astrology. Sciences like meteorology have always failed to predict weather. Still, they are considered sciences and are funded by governments. Think logically, learn jyotish and then try to criticise it. We do not give any importance to ignorant sceptics. Ashutosh. - rupinderrinku Saturday, July 02, 2005 23:12 Re: OUR CHALLENGE Dear members of this Astrology group, I would like tell you that i belong to Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the astrology but just to have faith in it. Our tarksheel society has exposed so many Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. Moreover as you said that its a way for us to earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of astrology cannot come infront of people. Anyway i am student in a medical college, and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know that astrology is just a fraud. Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated generation it is named as Astrology Science." From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. If any astrologist would have told to the people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never any astrologer have predicted about them. Can any astrologist by seeing the situation of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze medals. World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? Science has proved this fact that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the future of human being. At last I request to all the people that you should not waste your money which you have got by your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. - Rupinder Singh rationalist2005 , "kuldhir singh bhati" <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > Dear all, > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and need of troublesome persons. > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the astrological > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of serious > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > >of > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > Pick out correctly - Within a Margin of five percent error - those > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > >prints > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth correct > >the > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > >longitudes. > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > >our > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. We > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his or > >her > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > >contestants > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, money > >and > > > energy. > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > >will > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person will > >be > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > >will > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his deposit > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > >refunded > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up to > >our > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me at > >my > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > >that > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your Astrolgy. > >I > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. 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Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Yes I believe in the west Kreskin and others have had such challenges going on for decades and there is a society also that promotes rational scepticism. Superstition is certainly bad and easy to develop (I hope the typo below was yours and not Mahatma Gandhi's in his writings!). Also, did you mean Zsa Zsa Gabor further below when you were giving the scientific evidence for her 8 marriages? Peace (can only come piece-meal!) RR , "rupinderrinku" <rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Dear members of this Astrology group, > I would like tell you that i belong to > Tarksheel(Rationalist) society Punjab (Regd.). As some of you are > saying that this is a way for me to earn money, it is totally wrong > and as big lie as astrology. Beacuse we are not in doing social works > for earning money but we spend our own money and time for the welfare > of people. We are social workers. You Astrologers want to get rid of > these challenges instead of accepting the challnges. Why ? Because > it is fraud and you can't win our challenge and can't prove your > astrology. For you people it is not at all necessary to prove the > astrology but just to have faith in it. > Our tarksheel society has exposed so many > Astrologers in front of people as they are fraud. Till today no one > won our challenge and we know nobody can win our challenge. > Moreover as you said that its a way for us to > earn money. We are not asking you to give money but we are going to > pay you Rs. 5,00,000 or even Rs.20,00,000, if you accept and win our > challenge. you just want to get rid from these challanges that lie of > astrology cannot come infront of people. > Anyway i am student in a medical college, > and going to become a doctor. I don't have enough time to stay online > because of my studies. My duty is just to bring our challenge infront > of as many people as possible, so that people should come to know > that astrology is just a fraud. > Mahatma Gandhi ji aslo wrote in one of his book > that "Astrology is one of old superstion. But in today's educated > generation it is named as Astrology Science." > From 18 to 20 December 2004 thousands of great and > famous Astrologers get together for "Jyotish maha-samelan" at > Jalandhar(Punjab) but no one of them was able to predict that just > after one week there will be "Tsunami" which will kill lakhs of > people. Can any astrologist tell that whether all of the people died > because of "Tsunami" (including Astrologers) have same Zodiac signs > or whether they have same/common lines on their hands or forehead. > But if our country ranked good in the field of science instead of > Religion, than lakhs of lives could have been saved. > If any astrologist would have told to the > people in Bhopal about the Gas leakhage , then this sorrowful > incidence would not have taken place. Because of Earthquakes, > volcanic eruptions, Storms, etc. Crores of people are died but never > any astrologer have predicted about them. > Can any astrologist by seeing the situation > of Planets tell that in the next Asian or Olampic games India or any > asked five other countries will win how many gold, silver and bronze > medals. > World famous actress Ya Ya Gabro had > just single line of marriage , but how she got eight marriages ? > Science has proved this fact > that the reason for having lines on our hands is because of closed > hand of child in mothers body and these have no relation with the > future of human being. > At last I request to all the > people that you should not waste your money which you have got by > your hard work, to the Astrologers. and you should not also waste > your precious time in the Astrology. and i challenge all the > astrologers of the world that he/she who have complete faith on > his/her astrology can come and accept our challenge. > > - Rupinder Singh > rationalist2005 > > , "kuldhir singh bhati" > <kuldhir_singh@r...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > Me too agree with this.Such kind of nonsence should be handled by > owner and moderator seriously.We all are not to indulge ourself in > any kind of money earning profession but rather to discuss something > serious.I request Mr. Rupinder not to take advantage of simpicity and > need of troublesome persons. > > > > MAY GOD BLESS EVERYONE WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS > > > > Kuldhir Singh Bhati > > Kota,RAJATHAN > > > > > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 milan_elza wrote : > > >i was thinking that this group is to solve/ discuss the > astrological > > >problems. but it seems that people like this are using it for > > >earning the money.it is wastage of time of group member and it > > >should be taken by moderator seriously. no such type of nonsense > > >challege should be there. peoples are really needy and they want > > >some useful solution and help from astrologer. group member should > > >demoralize this type of message. it defame the reputation of > serious > > >group. i will suggest Mr. Rupinder to float this scheme through > > >newspaper and earn the money from that place instead of thinking to > > >earn the money from free groups where serious learnet peoples are > > >devoting the time for discussion and solving the problems. > > > > > > > > >, "rupinderrinku" > > ><rupinderrinku> wrote: > > > > Myself Rupinder Singh, > > > > Would like to tell you to accept the > > > > challenge of Tarksheel society Punjab (Regd.) and this challenge > > >of > > > > Rs. 5,00,000 is for all the Astrologers of the world. > > > > > > > > Our Challenge: > > > > > > > > Pick out correctly – Within a Margin of five percent error – > those > > > > males, females, the living and the dead from a set of ten palm > > >prints > > > > or ten astrological charts giving the exact time of birth > correct > > >the > > > > minute, and places of birth with their latitudes and long > > >longitudes. > > > > > > > > This challenge is ruled by the following conditions: > > > > > > > > 1) The person who accepts the challenge, whether he or she wants > > >our > > > > reward or not, should deposit Rs. 3000/-as an entry fee to us. > We > > > > insist on this fee, which will be refunded in the event of his > or > > >her > > > > winning the test, just to deter the inundation of amateur > > >contestants > > > > chasing cheap publicity, who would waste our valuable time, > money > > >and > > > > energy. > > > > > > > > 2) A person will be considered an acceptor of the challenge only > > > > after he or she makes the earnest deposit, and no communication > > >will > > > > be made with anyone who fails to do so. > > > > > > > > 3) After the deposit of submission fee, the claims of person > will > > >be > > > > tested by us, in public, on a mutually appointed day. All tests > > >will > > > > be held in our local town. > > > > > > > > 4) If a person fails in the test or to face the test, his > deposit > > > > will be forfeited. If he wins our test, his deposit will be > > >refunded > > > > with the award of Rs. 5,00,000. > > > > > > > > 5) All tests will be conducted under fraud-proof conditions up > to > > >our > > > > fullest satisfaction. > > > > > > > > 6) Anyone who wishes to accepts the challenge please contact me > at > > >my > > > > E-mail ID - rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > If anyone says that he don't need > > > > Rs.5,00,000 then please he should accept the challenge to prove > > >that > > > > your Astrology is a true. Let us have a judge about your > Astrolgy. > > >I > > > > will be waiting for your reply. > > > > Please feel free to contact me at > > > > rationalist2005 or rupinderrinku > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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