Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Dear Members, Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent or violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or moon is falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent criminal. There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or Moon is Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance of being not having the above characters. whishes, Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Dear Ram, I was born in cancer ascendent. Ashutosh. P.S: Incomplete knowledge does more harm than good. - ramd_5 Sunday, June 26, 2005 17:19 Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini Dear Members, Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent or violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or moon is falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent criminal. There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or Moon is Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance of being not having the above characters. whishes, Ram SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I have moon at cancer and asc is taurus although some say the twin babies.....everybody must be beware of me.....I must be a murderous scum...What a statement!!! You must be born in some divine sign then? Mike --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Ram, > I was born in cancer ascendent. > > > Ashutosh. > > P.S: Incomplete knowledge does more harm than good. > > - > ramd_5 > > Sunday, June 26, 2005 17:19 > Beware Of > Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini > > > > > Dear Members, > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants > Or Moon Signs > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish > And cunning, > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals > either In silent or > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown > above. It is > > enough to have the above said qualities when the > Ascendant or moon is > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon > are connected to > > one of the above list surely he should be a > silent/violent criminal. > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if > the Asc or Moon is > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then > ther is a chance of > > being not having the above characters. > > whishes, > > Ram > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Hare Krishna Dear Ram, If that were true then society would be in bad shape with so many bad people around. PLease give some scriptural reference for your statements. With Regards, Lakshmi -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent or > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or moon is > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent criminal. > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or Moon is > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance of > > being not having the above characters. > > whishes, > > Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 What a pity friends! This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody believe it then?! If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, Scorpio, Cancer or Gemini, the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! No wonder why he thinks so! Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal ones! The musical sign in which famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled criminal! Famous doctors born in good watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing this state os astrology, Parashara would die if alive! sadly, KAD > -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent or > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or moon > is > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent criminal. > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or Moon > is > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance of > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > whishes, > > > > Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Hello Kad and Ram, The persons born in various signs cannot be termed as criminals in general. Criminals come in disputes through conflicts, unsocial behaviour/acts and penal action by the state. So, anybody can be a criminal and can be involved in criminal activities including cheating: - who has a weak Sun (the significator for soul). Such a person acts against the law and social norms and is always afraid of his/her acts. - whose lord of the sixth house influences the planet Sun, of the lord of the tenth house to involve himself in disputes relating to the law of the land. - whose lords of the eighth and twelfth houses which act as rahu and the influence of such planets/rahu on Sun, Jupiter or the lord of the tenth and second houses involves the person in criminal acts. The person gets involved in the dasa and bhuktis of the above planets. The only saving grace can be the strong influence of Jupiter in the chart but the person has to be very careful. Raj K , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > What a pity friends! > > This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody believe > it then?! > If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, Scorpio, > Cancer or Gemini, > the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! No > wonder why he thinks so! > > Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal ones! The > musical sign in which > famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled criminal! > Famous doctors born in good > watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing this > state os astrology, > Parashara would die if alive! > > sadly, > > KAD > > > > -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent > or > > > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or > moon > > is > > > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to > > > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent > criminal. > > > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or > Moon > > is > > > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance > of > > > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > > > whishes, > > > > > > Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Dear Raj, There are no shortcuts in astrology. A weak sun does not signify a criminal tendency. I have seen horoscopes of many criminals and, believe it or not, most of them have a strong sun. A strong sun helps them evade the law and punishment, but it does not determine the moral character of a person. They are more likely to commit white collar crimes and crimes against humanity. People with weak sun are often have a poor luck. They get embroiled in unnecessary controversies and are often punished for crimes commited by others or are victims of harassment by authorities. Strong sun gives one confidence. Such a person will commit a crime with confidence and will be adept in escaping the hands of law also. No wonder, most of the politicians have a strong sun. They are also the worst criminals but they always escape the law. Regards, Ashutosh. - rajk1959 Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:15 Re: Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini Hello Kad and Ram, The persons born in various signs cannot be termed as criminals in general. Criminals come in disputes through conflicts, unsocial behaviour/acts and penal action by the state. So, anybody can be a criminal and can be involved in criminal activities including cheating: - who has a weak Sun (the significator for soul). Such a person acts against the law and social norms and is always afraid of his/her acts. - whose lord of the sixth house influences the planet Sun, of the lord of the tenth house to involve himself in disputes relating to the law of the land. - whose lords of the eighth and twelfth houses which act as rahu and the influence of such planets/rahu on Sun, Jupiter or the lord of the tenth and second houses involves the person in criminal acts. The person gets involved in the dasa and bhuktis of the above planets. The only saving grace can be the strong influence of Jupiter in the chart but the person has to be very careful. Raj K , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > What a pity friends! > > This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody believe > it then?! > If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, Scorpio, > Cancer or Gemini, > the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! No > wonder why he thinks so! > > Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal ones! The > musical sign in which > famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled criminal! > Famous doctors born in good > watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing this > state os astrology, > Parashara would die if alive! > > sadly, > > KAD > > > > -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In silent > or > > > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or > moon > > is > > > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are connected to > > > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent > criminal. > > > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or > Moon > > is > > > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a chance > of > > > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > > > whishes, > > > > > > Ram SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Hello Mr. Ashutosh, Your comment about the politicians is very interesting. The weak Sun is one of the factors. How the influences of other planets brought out in my message reflect in the chart of criminals with you. Raj K , "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Raj, > There are no shortcuts in astrology. A weak sun does not signify a criminal tendency. I have seen horoscopes of many criminals and, believe it or not, most of them have a strong sun. A strong sun helps them evade the law and punishment, but it does not determine the moral character of a person. They are more likely to commit white collar crimes and crimes against humanity. > > People with weak sun are often have a poor luck. They get embroiled in unnecessary controversies and are often punished for crimes commited by others or are victims of harassment by authorities. > > Strong sun gives one confidence. Such a person will commit a crime with confidence and will be adept in escaping the hands of law also. > > No wonder, most of the politicians have a strong sun. They are also the worst criminals but they always escape the law. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh. > > > - > rajk1959 > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:15 > Re: Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini > > > Hello Kad and Ram, > > The persons born in various signs cannot be termed as criminals in > general. Criminals come in disputes through conflicts, unsocial > behaviour/acts and penal action by the state. > > So, anybody can be a criminal and can be involved in criminal > activities including cheating: > > - who has a weak Sun (the significator for soul). Such a person acts > against the law and social norms and is always afraid of his/her > acts. > > - whose lord of the sixth house influences the planet Sun, of the > lord of the tenth house to involve himself in disputes relating to > the law of the land. > > - whose lords of the eighth and twelfth houses which act as rahu and > the influence of such planets/rahu on Sun, Jupiter or the lord of > the tenth and second houses involves the person in criminal acts. > > The person gets involved in the dasa and bhuktis of the above > planets. > > The only saving grace can be the strong influence of Jupiter in the > chart but the person has to be very careful. > > Raj K > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > wrote: > > What a pity friends! > > > > This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody > believe > > it then?! > > If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, > Scorpio, > > Cancer or Gemini, > > the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! No > > wonder why he thinks so! > > > > Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal ones! > The > > musical sign in which > > famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled criminal! > > Famous doctors born in good > > watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing > this > > state os astrology, > > Parashara would die if alive! > > > > sadly, > > > > KAD > > > > > > > -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > > > > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > > > > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In > silent > > or > > > > > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > > > > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or > > moon > > > is > > > > > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are > connected to > > > > > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent > > criminal. > > > > > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or > > Moon > > > is > > > > > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a > chance > > of > > > > > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > > > > > whishes, > > > > > > > > Ram SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > - ----------- > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > - ----------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Dear Raj, I agree with your other comments. I have seen very active sixth, eigth and twelfth houses in horoscopes of criminals. Eigth is the important one in crimes like cheating, forgery and smuggling. Twelfth is for scams and financial misappropriations. Sixth is for heinous crimes like murder, etc. Jupiter is also not much helpful in curbing the criminal tendencies. I had seen the horoscope of a person who ran a smuggling racket between India and Nepal in his heydays. He ran a full scale mafia. Especially during his saturn dasha. He had committed uncountable murders. His details: 30 january 1940 3.40 pm (15.40 hrs) Meerut, India 29N00 77E42 Note that jupiter is strong and in its own sign in tenth house with mars. He ruled over his men like a commander-in-chief. Ruthless and powerfull. He was never arrested and tried for his crimes. Regards, Ashutosh. - rajk1959 Wednesday, June 29, 2005 14:47 Re: Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini Hello Mr. Ashutosh, Your comment about the politicians is very interesting. The weak Sun is one of the factors. How the influences of other planets brought out in my message reflect in the chart of criminals with you. Raj K , "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Raj, > There are no shortcuts in astrology. A weak sun does not signify a criminal tendency. I have seen horoscopes of many criminals and, believe it or not, most of them have a strong sun. A strong sun helps them evade the law and punishment, but it does not determine the moral character of a person. They are more likely to commit white collar crimes and crimes against humanity. > > People with weak sun are often have a poor luck. They get embroiled in unnecessary controversies and are often punished for crimes commited by others or are victims of harassment by authorities. > > Strong sun gives one confidence. Such a person will commit a crime with confidence and will be adept in escaping the hands of law also. > > No wonder, most of the politicians have a strong sun. They are also the worst criminals but they always escape the law. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh. > > > - > rajk1959 > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:15 > Re: Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini > > > Hello Kad and Ram, > > The persons born in various signs cannot be termed as criminals in > general. Criminals come in disputes through conflicts, unsocial > behaviour/acts and penal action by the state. > > So, anybody can be a criminal and can be involved in criminal > activities including cheating: > > - who has a weak Sun (the significator for soul). Such a person acts > against the law and social norms and is always afraid of his/her > acts. > > - whose lord of the sixth house influences the planet Sun, of the > lord of the tenth house to involve himself in disputes relating to > the law of the land. > > - whose lords of the eighth and twelfth houses which act as rahu and > the influence of such planets/rahu on Sun, Jupiter or the lord of > the tenth and second houses involves the person in criminal acts. > > The person gets involved in the dasa and bhuktis of the above > planets. > > The only saving grace can be the strong influence of Jupiter in the > chart but the person has to be very careful. > > Raj K > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > wrote: > > What a pity friends! > > > > This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody > believe > > it then?! > > If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, > Scorpio, > > Cancer or Gemini, > > the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! No > > wonder why he thinks so! > > > > Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal ones! > The > > musical sign in which > > famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled criminal! > > Famous doctors born in good > > watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing > this > > state os astrology, > > Parashara would die if alive! > > > > sadly, > > > > KAD > > > > > > > -- In , "ramd_5" <ramd_5> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon Signs > > > > > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And cunning, > > > > > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In > silent > > or > > > > > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It is > > > > > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant or > > moon > > > is > > > > > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are > connected to > > > > > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent > > criminal. > > > > > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc or > > Moon > > > is > > > > > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a > chance > > of > > > > > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > > > > > whishes, > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > - ----------- > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > - ----------- > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. 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Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Dear Raj, Combination of planets, bhavas, planets form astro dicta and not criminals. An Astro-Dictum is just a guideline for analyses and not always verbatim; to be precise none of the combinations mentioned by you(also by Sage Parashara and others) certify any nativity as criminal; they just provide a hint. yours KAD , "rajk1959" <yna@b...> wrote: > Hello Mr. Ashutosh, > > Your comment about the politicians is very interesting. > The weak Sun is one of the factors. How the influences of other > planets brought out in my message reflect in the chart of criminals > with you. > > Raj K > > , "Astrologer Ashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > There are no shortcuts in astrology. A weak sun does > not signify a criminal tendency. I have seen horoscopes of many > criminals and, believe it or not, most of them have a strong sun. A > strong sun helps them evade the law and punishment, but it does not > determine the moral character of a person. They are more likely to > commit white collar crimes and crimes against humanity. > > > > People with weak sun are often have a poor luck. They get > embroiled in unnecessary controversies and are often punished for > crimes commited by others or are victims of harassment by > authorities. > > > > Strong sun gives one confidence. Such a person will commit > a crime with confidence and will be adept in escaping the hands of > law also. > > > > No wonder, most of the politicians have a strong sun. They > are also the worst criminals but they always escape the law. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > - > > rajk1959 > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:15 > > Re: Beware Of Cancer,Scorpio,Aries,Gemini > > > > > > Hello Kad and Ram, > > > > The persons born in various signs cannot be termed as criminals > in > > general. Criminals come in disputes through conflicts, unsocial > > behaviour/acts and penal action by the state. > > > > So, anybody can be a criminal and can be involved in criminal > > activities including cheating: > > > > - who has a weak Sun (the significator for soul). Such a person > acts > > against the law and social norms and is always afraid of his/her > > acts. > > > > - whose lord of the sixth house influences the planet Sun, of > the > > lord of the tenth house to involve himself in disputes relating > to > > the law of the land. > > > > - whose lords of the eighth and twelfth houses which act as rahu > and > > the influence of such planets/rahu on Sun, Jupiter or the lord > of > > the tenth and second houses involves the person in criminal acts. > > > > The person gets involved in the dasa and bhuktis of the above > > planets. > > > > The only saving grace can be the strong influence of Jupiter in > the > > chart but the person has to be very careful. > > > > Raj K > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > What a pity friends! > > > > > > This is the state of astrology now a days! How does anybody > > believe > > > it then?! > > > If only 0.01% is the exception to criminals in signs Aries, > > Scorpio, > > > Cancer or Gemini, > > > the person saying this must have 99.99% criminals around him! > No > > > wonder why he thinks so! > > > > > > Funny thing is - both army/police signs are termed criminal > ones! > > The > > > musical sign in which > > > famous musicians, economists are born is also labelled > criminal! > > > Famous doctors born in good > > > watery sign are criminals too! What a wonderful theory! Seeing > > this > > > state os astrology, > > > Parashara would die if alive! > > > > > > sadly, > > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "ramd_5" > <ramd_5> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Why Cancer, Scorpio, Aries and Gemini Ascendants Or Moon > Signs > > > > > > > > > > are generally having ego, arrogant nature, selfish And > cunning, > > > > > > > > > > jealous, greedy and in total they are criminals either In > > silent > > > or > > > > > > > > > > violent form? The order of intensity is as shown above. It > is > > > > > > > > > > enough to have the above said qualities when the Ascendant > or > > > moon > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > falling in the above Rasis.. if both asc and moon are > > connected to > > > > > > > > > > one of the above list surely he should be a silent/violent > > > criminal. > > > > > > > > > > There is only .01% of chance to be exceptional. if the Asc > or > > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > Either Leaving Or Entering the Above Areas, then ther is a > > chance > > > of > > > > > > > > > > being not having the above characters. > > > > > > > > > > whishes, > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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