Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Respected gurus, my friend has an aunt who is of loose character and is having illict relationship outside marriage...he has provided me with data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her birth chart for such nature... Birth Data 14 april 1962 10:30am Ghaziabad UP,India. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Dear Sir, How u know ur friends aut so much and about her character??? It is really bad to say comments on somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of any body. Manoj.. --- gbin1979 <gbin1979 wrote: > Respected gurus, > my friend has an aunt who is of > loose character and is > having illict relationship outside marriage...he has > provided me with > data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her > birth chart for such > nature... > > Birth Data > 14 april 1962 > 10:30am > Ghaziabad UP,India. > > Thanks > > > Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Dear Manoj, Aspect of Jupiter on lagna does not guarrantee a good character. I can show you hundreds of such horoscopes where the native has a loose character. But, in the given horoscope, though an ongoing marital discord and eventual divorce is seen, the character is strong. Her actions have been misunderstood. These inferences are based on the assumption that the given birth details are correct. Ashutosh. - MANOJ SAXENA Monday, June 06, 2005 14:05 Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze Dear Sir, How u know ur friends aut so much and about her character??? It is really bad to say comments on somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of any body. Manoj.. --- gbin1979 <gbin1979 wrote: > Respected gurus, > my friend has an aunt who is of > loose character and is > having illict relationship outside marriage...he has > provided me with > data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her > birth chart for such > nature... > > Birth Data > 14 april 1962 > 10:30am > Ghaziabad UP,India. > > Thanks > > > Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Ashutosh ji ure right.i dont mean to hurt anyone....she tried to get physical with my friend and also he has actually seen her in rather disturbing situations with someone who is quite younger than her....his problem is he cant tell this to anyone cause he is very close to his uncle ... i asked this question cause she has strong character in her horoscope but ..i dont see such bad things there... Regards , "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Manoj, > Aspect of Jupiter on lagna does not guarrantee a good character. I can show you hundreds of such horoscopes where the native has a loose character. But, in the given horoscope, though an ongoing marital discord and eventual divorce is seen, the character is strong. Her actions have been misunderstood. These inferences are based on the assumption that the given birth details are correct. > Ashutosh. > > > > > - > MANOJ SAXENA > > Monday, June 06, 2005 14:05 > Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze > > > Dear Sir, > > How u know ur friends aut so much and about her > character??? It is really bad to say comments on > somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little > astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose > character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. > Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of > any body. > > Manoj.. > > > --- gbin1979 <gbin1979> wrote: > > > Respected gurus, > > my friend has an aunt who is of > > loose character and is > > having illict relationship outside marriage...he has > > provided me with > > data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her > > birth chart for such > > nature... > > > > Birth Data > > 14 april 1962 > > 10:30am > > Ghaziabad UP,India. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Dear all, I think certain discretion should be maintained while referring to such cases. Can you not think someone can find out details based on the date , place and time of birth ? which can bring everyone into problem ? Do not think it is impossible. One can scan through municipality records and easily find out. Regards, Anil - gbin1979 Monday, June 06, 2005 3:09 PM Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze Ashutosh ji ure right.i dont mean to hurt anyone....she tried to get physical with my friend and also he has actually seen her in rather disturbing situations with someone who is quite younger than her....his problem is he cant tell this to anyone cause he is very close to his uncle ... i asked this question cause she has strong character in her horoscope but ..i dont see such bad things there... Regards , "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Manoj, > Aspect of Jupiter on lagna does not guarrantee a good character. I can show you hundreds of such horoscopes where the native has a loose character. But, in the given horoscope, though an ongoing marital discord and eventual divorce is seen, the character is strong. Her actions have been misunderstood. These inferences are based on the assumption that the given birth details are correct. > Ashutosh. > > > > > - > MANOJ SAXENA > > Monday, June 06, 2005 14:05 > Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze > > > Dear Sir, > > How u know ur friends aut so much and about her > character??? It is really bad to say comments on > somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little > astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose > character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. > Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of > any body. > > Manoj.. > > > --- gbin1979 <gbin1979> wrote: > > > Respected gurus, > > my friend has an aunt who is of > > loose character and is > > having illict relationship outside marriage...he has > > provided me with > > data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her > > birth chart for such > > nature... > > > > Birth Data > > 14 april 1962 > > 10:30am > > Ghaziabad UP,India. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Dear All, The Female under consideration is very impulsive and unstable by mind due to Moon - Rahu conjunction and also Herschel very close to moon, To add to this Saturn is squaring Venus. While Moon and Venus are affected like this , Merc is in 10 th in Pisces. Also Venus opposing Neptune and Moon squaring Neptune would give unrealistic imaginations and day dreaming , a kind of obsessive tendency. So I think this person has bit of excessive sexual impulses which she does not keep to herself but even tries to implement them even if it means relationships outside marriage. However all is not negative , Sun is Vargottama in 11 th , Venus though affected is in 11 th , Merc vargottama in 10 th. She would do well in her career , will be satisfied money earning wise and would do intellectual activities. I think even now marriage can be salvaged by proper counseling and remedies. This case is not as bad as I thought from your email. There are other severe cases of compulsive and excessive female libido, this case is not that bad. I am also surprised by your friend who could get lured by own aunt and saw her in compromising position. We should examine his horo also. Regards, Anil - gbin1979 Monday, June 06, 2005 3:09 PM Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze Ashutosh ji ure right.i dont mean to hurt anyone....she tried to get physical with my friend and also he has actually seen her in rather disturbing situations with someone who is quite younger than her....his problem is he cant tell this to anyone cause he is very close to his uncle ... i asked this question cause she has strong character in her horoscope but ..i dont see such bad things there... Regards , "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Manoj, > Aspect of Jupiter on lagna does not guarrantee a good character. I can show you hundreds of such horoscopes where the native has a loose character. But, in the given horoscope, though an ongoing marital discord and eventual divorce is seen, the character is strong. Her actions have been misunderstood. These inferences are based on the assumption that the given birth details are correct. > Ashutosh. > > > > > - > MANOJ SAXENA > > Monday, June 06, 2005 14:05 > Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze > > > Dear Sir, > > How u know ur friends aut so much and about her > character??? It is really bad to say comments on > somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little > astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose > character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. > Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of > any body. > > Manoj.. > > > --- gbin1979 <gbin1979> wrote: > > > Respected gurus, > > my friend has an aunt who is of > > loose character and is > > having illict relationship outside marriage...he has > > provided me with > > data of the lady..can someone help me analyze her > > birth chart for such > > nature... > > > > Birth Data > > 14 april 1962 > > 10:30am > > Ghaziabad UP,India. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on Lagna cannot assure a good character. I would say that even Ju's presence in lagna cannot assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY. Ju rules character and honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re inforces this side of Ju and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in Ju's lordship) can make the person really very dishonest. This principle of reinforcement is what I have observed in my little learing and it explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha (or whatever). I have seen charts like this. However I must also admit that not Ju's presence in lagna means bad character either. PS I must also say that the specific problems in marriage is often hard to say - I can give an example like seeing it's chart it is often hard to say that whether the person or his/her spouse is going to sleep with others. It is always (or often) very hard to say. We can say that some infedality the native will experience in his/her married life. This can come as his own action or his spouse's. People put straight fw rules for this but I have tested them and they do not always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a guess might even do. But that's not the success. Sometimes I have come across typical charts and have seen some common things that lead to breach of trust in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either native or the spouse). A planets positional weakness, and afflictional weakness etc are to be considered differently in this matter very carefully. This area is hard (At least to me) and would need much research, time etc. to learn. May not be possible for me. Best wishes Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - MANOJ SAXENA Monday, June 06, 2005 2:35 PM Re: Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze Dear Sir, How u know ur friends aut so much and about her character??? It is really bad to say comments on somebody with out knowing the truth. I know little astrolgy, and I believe she is not of any loose character, because jupiter is aspecting lagana. Jupiter's aspect on lagna, kills thousands evils of any body. Manoj.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dear Tanvir ji, sorry for jumping in.. but wht is to be seen particularly in horo...means it is said that jupiter even if debilated gives positive results. do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in trimsamsa.are to be seen particularly. kindly guide me thanks tarun.. , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> wrote: > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on Lagna cannot assure a good character. I would say that even Ju's presence in lagna cannot assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY. Ju rules character and honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re inforces this side of Ju and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in Ju's lordship) can make the person really very dishonest. This principle of reinforcement is what I have observed in my little learing and it explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha (or whatever). > > I have seen charts like this. However I must also admit that not Ju's presence in lagna means bad character either. > > PS I must also say that the specific problems in marriage is often hard to say - I can give an example like seeing it's chart it is often hard to say that whether the person or his/her spouse is going to sleep with others. It is always (or often) very hard to say. We can say that some infedality the native will experience in his/her married life. This can come as his own action or his spouse's. People put straight fw rules for this but I have tested them and they do not always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a guess might even do. But that's not the success. Sometimes I have come across typical charts and have seen some common things that lead to breach of trust in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either native or the spouse). A planets positional weakness, and afflictional weakness etc are to be considered differently in this matter very carefully. This area is hard (At least to me) and would need much research, time etc. to learn. May not be possible for me. > > Best wishes > Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Jai Jinendra, I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th with Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having illicit relationship with many woman of age greater than him,always try to lure them through emotionally and spends lots of money on them While on other hand there is hardly any relationship with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather torcher her and ask for money etc and stuff.Always demands for Sex if not getting from other woman with whom he has relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of even saying such a things and having such a relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars. But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and hides all his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his AL,?It is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in 4th makes him possible to perceive others that he is Good and even for sexual relationship he is albe to show he is passionate and Good lover. But as Lagna lord afflicted with Ketu,debil Venus in 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when things actually comes front of those specimen,actuall close entity will soon come to know he truth and I guess smart will take avantage of him and dump him down when find a better one and again he will all come to his life full of grief. His bith data:13th August 1973 Time:20.15 Place:Pune,India I want some more thoughts on this chart.I know him through someone,But he doesn't know me.It will be good specimen for a illicit relationship to judge. --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: > Dear Tanvir ji, > > sorry for jumping in.. > > but wht is to be seen particularly in horo...means > it is said that > jupiter even if debilated gives positive results. > > do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in > trimsamsa.are to be > seen particularly. > > kindly guide me > > thanks > > tarun.. > > > , "Tanvir" > <ultimate@s...> > wrote: > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on Lagna > cannot assure a > good character. I would say that even Ju's presence > in lagna cannot > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY. Ju > rules character and > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re inforces > this side of Ju > and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in Ju's > lordship) can > make the person really very dishonest. This > principle of > reinforcement is what I have observed in my little > learing and it > explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha (or > whatever). > > > > I have seen charts like this. However I must also > admit that not > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character either. > > > > PS I must also say that the specific problems in > marriage is often > hard to say - I can give an example like seeing it's > chart it is > often hard to say that whether the person or his/her > spouse is going > to sleep with others. It is always (or often) very > hard to say. We > can say that some infedality the native will > experience in his/her > married life. This can come as his own action or his > spouse's. People > put straight fw rules for this but I have tested > them and they do not > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a guess > might even do. > But that's not the success. Sometimes I have come > across typical > charts and have seen some common things that lead to > breach of trust > in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either > native or the > spouse). A planets positional weakness, and > afflictional weakness etc > are to be considered differently in this matter very > carefully. This > area is hard (At least to me) and would need much > research, time etc. > to learn. May not be possible for me. > > > > Best wishes > > Tanvir > > > > Love is the beauty of the soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Dear Shripal ji, according to me. as it is said that jupiter in 12th makes a person characterless. it is finally proved by the birthdata provided by you. as far as his character is concerned his navamsa has venus afflicted with ketu.which adds to his illicit relationships. his 7th lord is in 6th house i.e. 12th to itself. his venus is debilated also. Mars in 3rd house makes him to be brave in what he is doing but he lives as frendless. his venus is has just changed the raashi. means its quite low in degrees too. 8th lord in 6th is creating yoga too his jupiter dasha is running so his 12th house is working verywell.. kindly guide me further. thanks tarun. Message: 1 Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Shripal Re:Illict RelationShip - --- Plz Analyze Jai Jinendra, I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th with Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having illicit relationship with many woman of age greater than him,always try to lure them through emotionally and spends lots of money on them While on other hand there is hardly any relationship with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather torcher her and ask for money etc and stuff.Always demands for Sex if not getting from other woman with whom he has relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of even saying such a things and having such a relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars. But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and hides all his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his AL,?It is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in 4th makes him possible to perceive others that he is Good and even for sexual relationship he is albe to show he is passionate and Good lover. But as Lagna lord afflicted with Ketu,debil Venus in 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when things actually comes front of those specimen,actuall close entity will soon come to know he truth and I guess smart will take avantage of him and dump him down when find a better one and again he will all come to his life full of grief. His bith data:13th August 1973 Time:20.15 Place:Pune,India I want some more thoughts on this chart.I know him through someone,But he doesn't know me.It will be good specimen for a illicit relationship to judge. --- ~ Tarun ~ wrote: > Dear Tanvir ji, > > sorry for jumping in.. > > but wht is to be seen particularly in horo...means > it is said that > jupiter even if debilated gives positive results. > > do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in > trimsamsa.are to be > seen particularly. > > kindly guide me > > thanks > > tarun.. > > > , "Tanvir" > > wrote: > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on Lagna > cannot assure a > good character. I would say that even Ju's presence > in lagna cannot > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY. Ju > rules character and > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re inforces > this side of Ju > and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in Ju's > lordship) can > make the person really very dishonest. This > principle of > reinforcement is what I have observed in my little > learing and it > explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha (or > whatever). > > > > I have seen charts like this. However I must also > admit that not > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character either. > > > > PS I must also say that the specific problems in > marriage is often > hard to say - I can give an example like seeing it's > chart it is > often hard to say that whether the person or his/her > spouse is going > to sleep with others. It is always (or often) very > hard to say. We > can say that some infedality the native will > experience in his/her > married life. This can come as his own action or his > spouse's. People > put straight fw rules for this but I have tested > them and they do not > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a guess > might even do. > But that's not the success. Sometimes I have come > across typical > charts and have seen some common things that lead to > breach of trust > in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either > native or the > spouse). A planets positional weakness, and > afflictional weakness etc > are to be considered differently in this matter very > carefully. This > area is hard (At least to me) and would need much > research, time etc. > to learn. May not be possible for me. > > > > Best wishes > > Tanvir > > > > Love is the beauty of the soul ______________________ ______________________ ------ ------ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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