2-Seren....Consciousness & Jyotish. article..and... How to strengthen Saturn & Moon,....> MK 5/25

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Thanks Mark for your valuable time and suggestions. I have been

trying to strengthen my moon by wearing pearl and will also try to

strengthen it more by understanding its signs. Will continue to

strengthen my saturn by resting and meditating. After going thru your

emails I realized that I need to be patient as well. Will let you

know how the things work out. One quick question though, I have lot

of fears and anxiety. Any ideas? Seren

 

 

Dear Seren:

 

Glad to hear you're enjoying. I've also written articles on Saturn and

Moon, which you can

find in one of my , listed under the "files", section.

/

 

Also, notice that every day, the Planets tell us, where and when we need to

put our attention, and in strengthening which planets.

 

Referring to your chart, and especially your conjunction of Saturn with both

Sun & Moon, is a very powerful way of you changeing and improving your life.

 

So, when you say:

 

I have lot

of fears and anxiety. Any ideas?

 

Because my habit is to always look to the chart, to see if I can find the

Astrological reasons behind what is being expressed.

 

And, "lots of fears and anxieties", is a tell tale sign. Look at your

exact words: 'fears' and 'anxieties', are both Moonish, words.

 

If someone was to say accidents, or lack of self-confidence, those words

connotate different planets, for example, Mars & Sun, potential challenges.

 

So, then, looking at your 'Moon' and seeing it's close proximity to both

Saturn and the Sun, this, then, makes one feel more confident, that the

delicacy of the Moon, along with the malefically functioning Saturn, might

be the problem.

 

This is why I said, focus on strengthening both Saturn and the Moon.

 

Though any negative malefic influences upon the Moon, can produce anxieties,

like Rahu/Ketu, or even Mars, but, Saturn is well known for creating

negative and fearful feelings, upon especially a delicate Moon.

 

I, too have had this fairly common malefic situation, with my small birth,

Moon, in the 12th, only 1 house away from my Sun, (in my 11th) and with

Saturn, also in the 12th.

 

So, learning how to strengthen both the Moon & Saturn, has helped me

emmensely, at improving my experiences!

 

When you learn to balance your Saturn more, then, you'll find that your

Saturn & Sun/Moon conjunction, can be dominated more by the positive sides

of Saturn, and great, discipline, and presence of mind, stillness, and great

ability to concentrate, can develop.

 

Saturn's influences can be benefic, positive or malefic and negative. The

key is to develop that balance, first within Saturn and then, it's

influences will then become more positive.

 

 

Nice talking with you.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

ps.... also check out my research group at:

JoeTischResearchProject/

 

if you're interested in participating in my Jyotish research work.

 

 

ciao

 

 

 

Jai Guru!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"s_dipity" <s_dipity

 

Wed, 25 May 2005 14:23:14 -0000

 

2-Mark....Re: Consciousness & Jyotish. article..and...

 

 

Thanks Mark for your valuable time and suggestions. I have been

trying to strengthen my moon by wearing pearl and wld also try to

strengthen it more by understanding its signs. Will continue to

strengthen my saturn by resting and meditating. After going thru ur

emails I realized that I need to be patient as well. Will let you

know how the things work out. One quick question though, I have lot

of fears and anxiety. Any ideas?

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Mark, I really like the way you think and the way you have

combined Jyotish

> and Consciousness is truly amazing. I will like to implement

> and see the results. I have been trying very hard to get some mental

> peace with very little success.

>

> Will it be possible for you to give me some tips considering my

> horoscope.

> Seren....

>

>

>

>

> Dear Seren:

>

> No problem. I was inspired by your response to write a part 3 of

the Consc.

> & Jyotish series, which is completely inspiring me even further, to

merge

> both the field of Consciousness with Jyotish.

>

> Let's see, ..... your chart.... hold on...

>

> Okay, now in your chart, the most important planet for you to

understand,

> probably, is your Saturn.

>

> Since it's both with your Sun, and your Moon, it's probably the

planet most

> responsible for any and all sufferings.

>

> Though I was very happy to hear of your experiences and use of

meditation,

> as well.

>

> Let's see, previously you said...

>

> I think I read in another one of your articles

> about Saturn and Surrender, that also helped me a lot. This last

phase

> of Sade Sati had been giving me a lot of troubles, but after reading

> your article I surrendered and felt much better.

>

>

> Your experience here both shows your tendency to have grief,

(probably due

> to that Saturn with your Sun and Moon), and yet, even beginning to

move with

> more Saturn wisdom, immediately began a self-improvement!

>

> In your last message you said:

>

> I have been trying very hard to get some mental

> peace with very little success.

>

>

> The main reason why this might be true, is because trying hard, is

not the

> formula for mental peace!

>

> And, in your chart, the key to mental health, will be learning to

do things,

> more in-tune with the silent, and effortless nature of Saturn, as

well.

>

> (Also you're supposed to learn how to strengthen your Moon as well,

not

> because it's not, in a good sign, but because it's sooo small. You

were

> born on a New Moon, day.)

>

>

> Also, you said:

>

> I have discussed my chart with a few astrologers and I think that

the

> consensus has been that there is hardly any benefic planet in my

horoscope

>

>

> I sort of disagree, here, hehe. Both your Moon & Mars are Exalted,

and

> that's a very good thing!

>

>

> and I think my continuous struggle in life proves the analysis.

>

> Your struggles are not due to these, Mars & Moon situations but

probably due

> to your Saturn!

>

> I have been trying to find a solution to these planetary alignment

using my

> will-power, hard work , meditation and prayers.

>

>

>

> So, continue in your self-efforts, but take especially a 'lead'

from your

> Saturn, and listen to

> your good Moon, and follow it's prompts.

>

> Your Exalted Moon, will tell you when you're tired, or upset.

>

> Listen to your Moon, and if you're feeling any signs of maleficness

from

> Saturn, take that as a continual, 'good' warning, that Nature's

trying to

> tell you, "keep continuing improving Saturn"!

>

> See, our Jyotish is a fantasic tool to help us understand which

planet's are

> acting malefically.

>

> The main problem with our malefic situations is they represent

those areas

> where we're .....

>

> o confused...

> o out of tune....

> o imbalanced...

> o and mistaken either in our beliefs, concepts or judgements...

>

> So, you have a malefic Saturn like, most people.

>

> But, Saturn is trying to get you to understand that you need to

start doing

> things differently.

>

> When we're more in-tune with Saturn, then the negative, or malefic

> consequences, go away and instead we feel inner joy, peace, and deep

> settledness.

>

> Let Saturn's consequences....be your Signs,....of right and wrong.

>

> If you experience any of Saturn's negatives, then,

>

> o stop,

> o rest more,

> o be more patient,

> o meditate...

> o and learn how to strengthen Saturn more.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

> ps.... In my personal readings and/or Jyotish courses, I spend much

time, in

> going into even more detail about how to strengthen our malefics,

like

> Saturn, here, or any of your other malefics.

>

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

> Jai Guru!

>

>

>

>

>

>

"s_dipity" <s_dipity>

> Transcend-Meditation

> Tue, 24 May 2005 15:07:49 -0000

> Transcend-Meditation

> [Transcend-Meditation] 2-Mark....Re: Consciousness &

Jyotish.

> article..and... S_Dipity's

>

>

> Mark,

> I really like the way you think and the way you have combined

Jyotish

> and Consciousness is truly amazing. Will it be possible for you to

> give me some tips considering my horoscope. I will like to implement

> and see the results. I have been trying very hard to get some mental

> peace with very little success.

>

> Thanks

> Seren

>

>

> Transcend-Meditation, Mark Kincaid

> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > Mark, I totally agree with you. The planetary positions act as the

> > guides and if we understand their significance we can live our

> lives in a

> > much better way. I think I read in another one of your articles

> > about Saturn and Surrender, that also helped me a lot. ....

> >

> >

> > Dear S_dipity:

> >

> > What is your name, anyway? hehe....

> >

> > See, in most people's interpretations of Jyotish, the very

> important part of

> > Jyotish Transformation has been either completely forgotten, or

only

> > emphasized about 5%.

> >

> > When I first started studying Jyotish, in the late 80's...(1988),

> all the

> > books that were out there, would have oh, say, 195 pages on the

> Jyotish, and

> > then, at the end, tacked on, almost like an after thought, would

be

> 5 pages

> > of remedial measures.

> >

> > But, as my background has been the healing and extremely

> progressive and

> > transformative aspects of meditation and Ayurved, I looked at

> Jyotish

> > differently.

> >

> > Today, Jyotish is going through it's own transformation where the

> life and

> > soul, especially the vast transformative power of Jyotish is

coming

> back.

> >

> > One of my favorite insights was that the malefics in our charts

not

> only

> > represent the sources of our problems, challenges & sufferings.

Our

> > malefics also represent our Solutions!

> >

> > In otherwords, looking at our Jyotish from one angle, those

> malefics do

> > point us to where our weaknesses lie.

> >

> > However, from a slightly different glance, and those same weaker,

> or malefic

> > situtaions, also represent the very planets that are supposed to

be

> > strengthened!

> >

> > For example, if you take any malefic, let's say Mars for example

> and in

> > someone's chart, Mars is acting malefically. Maybe they're

> accident prone,

> > or have fights, heat or pitta rashes, and any of the

many 'malefic'

> > consequences of a malefically functioning Mars.

> >

> > So, from the one Jyotish perspective Mars is indicative of the

> problem; but

> > at the very same time, Mars is indicative of the solution!

> >

> > For many people, when they come to me, with a Mars problem, first

I

> help

> > them see how their Mars is indicative of their challenge or

> problem; but

> > then, I quickly suggest that they strengthen their Mars!

> >

> > See, people are great. They don't know that Jyotish isn't

> supposed to be

> > about improvement!

> >

> > They don't know that Jyotish normally, is too preoccupied with the

> > fatalistic aspect of life.

> >

> > People just want to improve their lives!

> >

> > So, when I say: "Strengthen Mars"..... they don't say, how come;

> instead

> > they say: "How!"

> >

> >

> > For Mars, representing the many aspects of activity, dynamism,

> enthuiasm,

> > blood, standing up for oneself, and fighting, Mars is a very

> important

> > planet.

> >

> > But, when it's acting malefically in anyone's chart, it's become

> too Marish,

> > or out of balance.

> >

> > Therefore the solution is to bring one's Mars, back into balance.

> >

> > See, Ayurvedic doctors and Physicians know this already. Though

> they don't

> > call it Mars, they call it pitta.

> >

> > Ayurved has the long standing understanding that life's problems

> are due to

> > a basic imbalance between the 3 basic energies of the body/mind,

> called

> > Vatta, Pitta, Kalpha.

> >

> > So, the Ayurveda person, feels the pulse, and detects the

> imbalance, and

> > then, prescribes Ayurvedic remedies to bring that 'pulse' back

into

> balance.

> >

> > In fact, when I was initially exposed to Jyotish, many years ago,

I

> was

> > attending a month long course on Ayurved in India.

> >

> > Even back then, one of the Vedic Scholars said: "Ayurved and

> Jyotish should

> > be done together."

> >

> > Now, I understand that Ayurved is really good at deciphering and

> > understanding how to bring the Physiology of the body, back into

> balance,

> > where Jyotish is really expert at the Psychology, understanding

the

> deeper,

> > more mental patterns, and inclinations that are there.

> >

> > In our Jyotish, are represented, the mental patterns of

motivation,

> and

> > will, and desires, that are all jumbled up.

> >

> > The Benefics represent the patterns that we have 'right', and are

> therefore

> > the source of good things, success, natural fulfillment of desire,

> and

> > happiness.

> >

> > Our Malefics, however, are where we're confused, deluded,

mistaken,

> and make

> > poor decisions, and judgements.

> >

> > This is because those 'Malefics' represent planets that are

either,

> out of

> > balance, or under developed.

> >

> > Therefore when we say, strengthen our Malefics, this is a very

> significant,

> > and accurate understanding.

> >

> > Anyone, in fact, who takes even a few steps towards strengthening

> Mars,

> > Saturn, Rahu/Ketu, finds immediate and powerful improvement and

> greater

> > success, in life.

> >

> > The key thing is to understand that we're born for this self-

> transformation,

> > and fate is not the answer!

> >

> >

> > Nice talking with you.

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , "s_dipity" <s_dipity>

> > wrote:

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > I totally agree with you. The planetary positions act as the

> > guides

> > > and if we understand their significance we can live our lives

in a

> > > much better way. I think I read in another one of your articles

> > abt

> > > Saturn and Surrender, that also helped me a lot. This last phase

> > of

> > > Sade Sati had been giving me a lot of troubles, but after

reading

> > > your article I surrendered and felt much better. Here are the

> > details

> > > abt my horoscope.

> > >

> > > Sagitarius Ascendent

> > > Taurus Moon Sign

> > >

> > > Planetary Positions

> > >

> > > Mars & Rahu - 2nd house

> > > Mercury & Venus - 5th House

> > > Saturn, Sun and Moon - 6th House ( I think we share part of

this)

> > > Ketu - 8th house

> > > Jupiter - 12th House

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Mark Kincaid

> > > <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > Very enlightening Mark. Thanks. I am not an astrologer but

> > > definitely

> > > > interested in learning astrology. I have discussed my chart

with

> > a

> > > > few astrologers and I think that the consensus has been that

> > there

> > > is

> > > > hardly any benefic planet in my horoscope and I think my

> > continuous

> > > > struggle in life proves the analysis. I have been trying to

find

> > a

> > > > solution to these planetary alignment using my will-power,

hard

> > > > work , meditation and prayers. And I think I have been

> > successful to

> > > > a certain extent. Your post gave me a lot of motivation to

> > continue

> > > > with my efforts. thanks again.

> > > >

> > > > Dear S_dipity:

> > > >

> > > > So glad to hear you enjoyed the Jyotish article.

> > > >

> > > > Also, please tell me your Rising Sign or Ascendent.

> > > >

> > > > The things you mentioned, all will be very helpful, but the

> > special

> > > flavor

> > > > of learning the deep, Astrological significance of each of the

> > > Planets is

> > > > very powerful.

> > > >

> > > > It's like the Planets are these great Cosmic switches, and

once

> > we

> > > begin to

> > > > contemplate their more balanced potentials, the very activity

of

> > > thinking

> > > > about 'them', will have some great effect of enlivening them

in

> > > your life.

> > > >

> > > > Nice talking with you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'm sending you a list of my I've created in case

> > > you're

> > > > interested.

> > > >

> > > > ciao

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nature's Astrology.... A look at the 'best of both, Western &

> > > Eastern'

> > > > Astrologys.

> > > > /

> > > >

> > > > If one is interested in receiving exclusively, a reminder of

the

> > > daily,

> > > > weekly & monthly, 'Transits' of the Stars, then check out:

> > > > 1/

> > > >

> > > > This next group, looks at Consciousness, or Meditation and

> > Jyotish

> > > > simultaneously.

> > > > http://health.Transcend-Meditation/

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This one, looks at simultaneously, Ayurved, Jyotish & Yoga,

all

> > > concurently.

> > > > There are many remedial measures, and treatments in both

Ayurved

> > > and Yoga,

> > > > that can be used to very practically, improve

> > our 'Astrologys',....

> > > > http://health.AyurvedJyotishYoga/

> > > >

> > > > Also, there's a group, called:

> > > > Spirituality_Astrology/

> > > > which I formed to look specifically at the areas of

Spirituality

> > in

> > > > Jyotish/Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > This group is for those who might be interested in helping me

do

> > > research in

> > > > Jyotish.

> > > > I'm presently writing a book on Astrology, West & East, and if

> > > you're

> > > > interested in participating,

> > > > please go to:

> > > > JoeTischResearchProject/

> > > > to sign up.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > And finally, for those who want to more actively, or

> > > formally, 'Study

> > > > Jyotish/Astrology', you can check out this group:

> > > >

> > > > StudingYourStars/

> > > >

> > > > This is a 1 month to 1 year Study group, and as such I'm

> > chargeing

> > > various

> > > > amounts

> > > > for those who want to study their Astrology more seriously.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Laterst Group: Jyotish/Astrology Newsletter.

> > > >

> > > > Receive a choice, Jyotish 'blip' each day.

> > > >

> > > > 365/days of the year!

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> > > > Join the StarsWithin! at:

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> > > > Small fee, contribution for this Newsletter: $ 12.00/year.

> > > > Invest in your Cosmic future!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "s_dipity" <s_dipity>

> > > >

> > > > Mon, 23 May 2005 16:55:40 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Consciousness & Jyotish. Part 2... Vedic

> > > Knowledge's

> > > > ..Dream...and Vision of All Possibilities.... Mark Kincaid

5/22

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > very enlightening Mark. Thanks. I am not an astrologer but

> > > definitely

> > > > interested in learning astrology. I have discussed my chart

with

> > a

> > > > few astrologers and I think that the consensus has been that

> > there

> > > is

> > > > hardly any benefic planet in my horoscope and I think my

> > continuous

> > > > struggle in life proves the analysis. I have been trying to

find

> > a

> > > > solution to these planetary alignment using my will-power,

hard

> > > > work , meditation and prayers. And I think I have been

> > successful to

> > > > a certain extent. Your post gave me a lot of motivation to

> > continue

> > > > with my efforts. thanks again.

> > > >

> > > > will discover something serendipitously :-)

> > > > DOB May 24, 1971

> > > > TOB 10:30 PM

> > > > POB Sangrur (Pb) - INDIA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Mark Kincaid

> > > > <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Consciousness & Jyotish....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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