Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Sindhu, There is delay not denial in marriage. You will get married in November this year. Ashutosh. - Syndhu Wednesday, May 25, 2005 08:52 Marriage delay Respected Gurus, I have been told that I am having Marriage yoga for the past two years but still nothing is in site. Can u help me by reading my chart and leting me know if there is a possibility of marriage. Thank you in advance, Sindhu DOB: 10/2/1973 Time: 19:25 hrs. Place: Pune, maharashtra Sex: female India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Sub: Male, 29/12/1967, 17:23, New Delhi 28N39, 77E13 Dear Ramesh ji, It is a very good chart as a study material for the marriage aspect. You know this native and hence we all are sure that the native is unmarried. But Ramesh ji, just for the sake of my understanding, if this chart would have come to us much before, say in the year 1998, then it would have been extremely difficult to say that this native will not get married , atleast till 2008. When we refer to chapter 21 for non-marital status, none of the 8 laws comply with the combinations in the native's chart. Yes, you are right that the 6th house & its lord plays a vital role in preventing marriage for this native. But preventing is a bit different from complete denial or preventing is different from extreme delay. I think more than anything else, as you have already said, the psychology of this native or his personal reluctance to enter into a marital bond, played a greater role in his still being unmarried. How do we probe this ?????? Otherwise 10 years back it would have been impossible to say that this native will not marry. Please help me in discussing & pin-pointing the facets which would have enabled us to predict non-marital status of this antive when he was in his early thirtees. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 ramesh mishra wrote : >Dear Prabha Ji, > Take up the chart of male native born on 26 Dec 1967. As I know this gentleman is still unmarried and you know he is now 40+. In future also he is not going for marrieag according to his own statement. I know this person very closely. He is a govt.servant and very skilled person in his job. > If you notice his chart his FK Mo and NK Ve both are in 6th house, a house of black hole. > His 6th lord Ma aspects house A , house C and LoB Ju. So all the three houses are influenced by 6th lord. > His NK Ve for 12th is in 6th house and aspects 12th with malefic sight. His FK for 12th is Ju who also aspects 7th with malefic sight. > Similarly Ju and Ve is NK and FK respectively for 5th house. > How can we expect a delayed marriage in this case ? Is it not enough to predict a case of denial of marriage. > Further both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > There is full delay caused by both Ju and Sa and the delay is moderated also. > The quality of marriage is good as is shown in the chart still native could not marry. > One more point is observed in the chart. FRK for 7th is Sa and he is contributing zero in the 9th house. > Similarly you have to study the rest of those two charts. > According to desh, kaal and patra maximum limit of marriage might be between 30 to 40 years of age though some marriages happen even after 40 also but there is no charm in that marriage. Mostly it is found a unhappy marriage. > Then we have to study the psychology of the native also. > In this chart Mo is debilitated in 6th house and he is in 4th place from 7th lord Ju. > Ju has 6 bindus in 10th place from Mo who has 4 bindus. The native is not inclined towards marriage. > See his effect of 7th house . Two malefics Su and Me occupy 7th house and aspect by another two malefics Ra and Sa. Though the aspect of Sa is benefic but however Sa is a natural malefic and further the malefic aspect of Ju from 3rd house. > I think this much point is enough to validate the denial of marriage. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya wrote: > Respected Ash ji, >Thank you for the apt guidance. I will try to keep everything in >mind and try to remember them. >Hope with Guruji's blessings I may be able to study well. >Thanks >Prabha > > , " Ash's >Corner " <kas wrote: > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > So many factors will go into judging finally what would be the >outcome. The > > natives nature, his or her intelligence, blessings, society, ethics >etc etc. > > > > Even religion and religious beliefs will play a part in the final >outcome. > > In some religions, a divorce is not accepted unless in very >special > > circumstance, so all these parameters will also have to be >factored in. > > > > Sometimes even if in a chart there are no children then in some >cases, the > > husband and wife might get along just great, (Sa, Ra, Ma and >Ve aspects > > rule) and they might be great friends (su and moon aspects rule) >then in > > that case, still marriage might be held in the lowest power >planet. > > > > So to take a proper judgment, one requires more practice and >more deeper > > understanding of desh, kaal and Paatra principle too. > > > > The main point is in all 3 charts, the culprit was 6th lord and it >was in > > some way afflicting ABCDE house or lords. > > > > Guru ji had solved charts of a couple who married in later 40's or >50's, for > > both it was their first marriage and for both it happened in the >Highest > > power planet as per the WS. > > > > Also, one more thing, if there is a happy marriage and early >marriage, I > > think you can find such charts, solve it blindly as an exercise >for your own > > self and you will be shocked to find that u will be easily be able >to find > > the pin point date or u might come close to the date. > > > > Only when there are problems in marriage or the case of >unhappy marriage > > then one has to judge or more thought is required to consider >all the > > factors before coming to the final decision. > > > > Practice and solving more and more charts will give u that >insight. You > > have the laws which will act as guidelines. > > > > Generally we spend 80% of our time in 20% most difficult charts >and in > > forums like this, only difficult charts come, because when say a >marriage is > > happy then no one ask's a question " Why is my marriage >happy " lol... > > > > There also might be a case where the marriage is happy but its >just delayed > > and this delay might be due to say no proper or strong antra >coming to > > furnish the timing, so once an antra comes which is powerful >then it will > > give the result quickly. So u also might encounter such charts >as well so > > keep all these points mind while studying a chart so next time >such charts > > come up, you can use the experience that u have built over time >and it will > > guide u. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On >Behalf Of > > prabha.acharya > > Saturday September 27, 2008 7:54 AM > > > > Marriage delay > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji, > > There is one question I came up after studying all three charts >of > > delayed marriage > > 1. By Ramesh ji : 29/12/1967, 17:23, New delhi 28N39, 77E13 > > This chart was studied many times in detail and can be found in > > archives starting from Msg 11885. > > 2. By me: 23/1/1979, 14:20, Bombay 18N58, 72E50 > > 3. By me: 8/8/1975, 15:05, Trichur 10N31, 76E13 > > > > In all these charts the common factor creating havoc is the sixth > > lord. Does that mean if houses A, B, C if related in anyway with > > sixth lord or if karak of houses D & E would not give marriage to > > the native? Even FK and NK of 7th house both if somehow > > related to 6th house/lord will deny marriage. > > OR are the three charts just late, really late marriages? > > Thanks > > Prabha > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Dear Anup ji, Thanks a lot. I have noted it. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 Anup.M wrote : >Dear Nikhleshji, >If Sat is in 4th place from Jupiter/aspected by Jup, then delay >can be checked.No doubt Jup does not aspect Sat in this chart, >but Sat is in 4th place from Jup. > > >Points of Sat or Jup are not considered in such placements. > >Regards >Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Sun, 28/9/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur >Re: Re: Marriage Delay > >Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 1:38 PM > > > > > > > > >    Dear Anup j, > >            This has reference to the following point mentioned by you : > >(Sat is in fourth place from Jup in Rasi and in navamsa. >So jupitor should have checked the Sat delay. >Here Jup is itself delay causing planet,so it can not >check Sat delay). > > >I thought that Ju will never control Sa here because though it forms a 4:10 relationship with Sa, here Ju which is 10th from Sa, has more bindus than Sa. So Ju will never control Sa. > >And besides this, there is no aspect of Ju on Sa. > >Kindly confirm if my thinking on this facet is correct. > >Regards, >Nikhlesh Mathur > > > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 Anup.M wrote : > >Dear Prabhaji, > > > >The second chart is equally interesting because lagna is just > >on the border point.So lack of events can lead us to consfusion.. > > > >The reason for why i am saying this is that merely 5 minutes > >can change lagna.In both the cases there is Saturn delay. > >You can check also how things might delay marriage event in > >Sagg lagna due to 6th lord till 2010(Jupitor lantra). > > > >Now in this case, Lagna is 29 Sc 44. > >There is full Sat and Jup delay. > > > >Three main malefic points in this chart are as below, > >*FK Jup is in 6th house and aspected by 6th lord in navamsa. > >*NK Venus is also being aspected by 6th lord,Mars. > >*Mars in houseB also. > > > >Also Venus is debiliated in navamsa. > >Moon is in Mars aspect and in leo. > >So the native must be taking sudden decisions which > >could be not favourable perhaps. > > > >Mars take away power from Mer and becomes powerful > >in WS.So we can assume that its malefic influence also increases. > > > >Sat is in fourth place from Jup in Rasi and in navamsa. > >So jupitor should have checked the Sat delay. > >Here Jup is itself delay causing planet,so it can not > >check Sat delay. > > > >Saturn delay ends in Aug 2002. > >So Jupitor delay is computed after Sat delay. > >Jup delay will end when it will conjoin or aspect 7th lord > >or house in transit. > > > >Here Jupitor may not accept the company of Venus > >as 7th lord because of having Mars in 7th house. > >Besides this Jupitor have to rectify these three errors during transit > >which i have mention in the begining.This was explained by > >Ashji in some mail last year.So i am trying to apply same understanding here. > > > >These three errors were eliminated when Jup was in > >in 11th house aspecting 7th house in sept2004. > >Second, when this was in first house in Nov2006 > >Third when it will be in 3rd house and aspect 7th house in Dec2008, > >when Jup will touch 7th house in May2012. > > > >Mercury Antra will be running at that time. > >Mer is SD to Venus and Jup. > > > >He may marry in Mercury antra possibly Aug2011-Jan2013. > > > >Regards > >Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Sat, 27/9/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com> > >[astrologyandtiming events] Marriage Delay > >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > >Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Nikhilesh ji, Anuo ji, > >Thanks for the clarifications regarding marriage delay. Lot of > >concepts were cleared. The chart was from another group, > >therefore I cannot furnish further details. > >This is another chart of an unmarried male from another group. He > >is facing many problems... since last 1 year... He has lost his girl > >friend bcz her parents forced her to marry someone else. That's > >why the native is disturbed. He wants to recover from this > >situation. Is there any chance of recovery in his future life. > >According to him, he really hates his life. He can't concentrate on > >his job. Always quarrels with his parents. friends, and also in > >office. He is not married yet. > >His details are given below. > >DOB : 08-08-1975 > >TOB : 03:05 PM > >POB : TRICHUR, KERALA, 10N31, 76E13 > > > >Here Asc is with 26 points and 7th house with 30 points. > >The points I can find in the chart are : > >1. Asc Lord, 7th Lord – Ma, Ve in 4:10; Su lord,7th lord from Su - > >Mo, Sa in 2:12; > >Mo lord, 7th lord from Mo – Su, Sa in same house, > >Ve lord, 7th lord from Ve – Su, Sa in same house. > >In all they are not very good. > >2. 12th Lord Ma in house B. Ma aspects NK Ve. FK Ju is in 6th > >house(12th from house B). > >3. Ma will not give result since it is aspecting house A and lord of > >house C and Lord of house B. Ju also will not give result since it > >aspects house A and is in 6th House. Sa aspects house C and > >lord of house A. > >4. Ve is debilitated in D9. Mo is weak (Padya tithi), with Venus > >and aspected by Mars (which also happens to be 6th lord). > >5. Ve is aspectd by Sa in D9. Su is with Sa and aspected by Sa in > >D9. > >6. Sa is in 4th place from Ju (FK) with less point than Ju, so Sa will > >give adverse result. (DOES THAT MEAN THE NATIVE WILL > >NEVER MARRY OR sa WILL NOT ALLOW THE NATIVE TO > >MARRY IN ITS SUB-PERIOD?) > >6. Ju(NK) malefically aspects 12th house(house E for bed > >comforts) > >Ju aspects its own house the 2nd house(houseA) malefically from > >6th house. Also Ma aspects this house. These may show extra > >marital relations. > >7. Ve is spoiled by malefic sight of Ju from 6th house, 6th lord Ma > >and in D9 Ve is aspected by Sa. > >8. Except for Taurus which has 30 SAV, all other love signs have > >less than 28 points. > >9. There is more scope for love marriage as the 7th lord Ve is > >situated in the 4th place from the strongest significator Ma. 7th > >lord Ve is Samdharmi to Mo. Conjunction of Mo and Ve. > >Ascendant is scorpio and Ma is the powerful significator. > >10. Why didn't he marry in Su main? Is it because it is with Sa > >and aspected by Sa and Ma in D9? Also because of above rules > >which delays marriage to some extent. > >11. If as he says, he got separated from his girl friend in Rahu > >antara, as Ra is in 1:7 axis aspected by Ma 6th lord and > >Samdharmi to Ra. > >12. Finally to end such lengthy mail, I conclude he may marry in > >Ma Dasha- Ma antra. And Ma is the highest significator. > >Thanks > >Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Dear Anup ji, Thanks for correcting my approach at the nick of the time. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 Anup.M wrote : >Dear Nikhleshji, > >You are right in saying what you wrote. >But we should follow the rules as per KAS. > >A planet aspecting house A,B or C can not give the event itself >rather SD to it will come forward to furnish the event for house B. >Yes, only in one condition it can qualify to to give event if it has > more than 20 points in WS. > >Regards >Anup > > > > > > > On Sun, 28/9/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur >Re: Re: Marriage Delay > >Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 1:20 PM > > > > > > > > >Dear Anup ji, > >      During the analysis I also initially thought that Ju aspects 2nd house in natal chart so it should not give the result of marriage. > >But then it dawned on me that Ju is sitting in 2nd house in the Navansh. > >And in the AD of Ju it will happen to traverse the 3rd house which is 2nd from 2nd. So it might then increase the status of the karak for marriage. Besides the delay of Ju is already over and when in 3rd house it will aspect 7th house. Ju has just 4 points in 3rd house(so a neutral effect). > >That was the thinking of a learner on this facet, perhaps now you have corrected it. > >Thanks & Regards, >Nikhlesh Mathur > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 Anup.M wrote : > >Dear Nikhleshji, > > > >How Jupitor antra can give marriage? > >Jup aspects house A in Rasi. > > > >Regards > >Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Sat, 27/9/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> wrote: > > > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> > >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Marriage Delay > >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > >Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 5:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >27.09.2008 > > > >Dear Prabha ji, > > > >       My attempt is as follows; > >Native :Male, 08-08-1975, 03:05 PM, TRICHUR, KERALA, 10N31, 76E13 > > > > > >            Since the native is still unmarried let us validate the delay and then find out if at all he will get married in future. > > > >1.   This is another chart with no zeros in SAV and the native is unmarried still at age 33 plus. I mentioned in one of my earlier mails that I have observed huge delays in marriage or non-marital status in charts which has no zeros in SAV. > > > >2.   We go to chapter 24 to examine the compliance to non-marital conditions. No such condition is fulfilled which can keep the native unmarried. So it is clear that marriage will surely happen for the native.. > > > >3.   Next we check the happiness factors in marriage. The happiness in marriage is less. Mostly it is 2:12 or 4:10 relationships between Lord of Asc & 7th from it, Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it, lord of Sun sign & 7th from it. The 6th lord is in 7th house. Except for Ma & Ju all other planets have less than 12 points for 7th houses (quality seen after including the MF’s). The 6th lord is aspecting 7th lord (Ma of low 3 points aspects Ve strongly), Mars & Venus both are aspected by Saturn in the Navansh. > > > >4.   Since unhappiness is seen in marital life we can expect that the native can get married in AD of low power planet. If that can be so then let us first examine if there are any signs of divorce in the chart. They are not any except one that the significator of the 7th house (Ve) is 4th place from the 6th lord (but it has less than 4 points, so it is weak). > > > >5.   Now let us evaluate the MD & AD’s. At present the MD running is of Moon. The MD shoes Karkatwa. So during Moon’s MD Mo will exhibit results as NK for the 2nd house and as FK for the 9th house. Now we study Moon’s placement .It is in 10th house with only 3 points. So it will not act for the benefit of the house it is karkatwa of . But this Moon is in Upchaya bhav (11th) from its own house in Navansh (5th house in Navansh). So the MD of Moon is capable of giving children and hence would facilitate marriage. > > > >6.   Here we must also note that Sa is in 5th house in Navansh and therefore has sights on all A,B,C, houses (Full delay). > >Ju has sight on House A in natal chart. So further more delay. This chart therefore validates the KAS laws pertaining to delay in marriage. > >Ju enters Capricorn on 5th Dec 2008 (Ju has 4 points in Capricorn. When it came in Scorpio it had more than 4 points so casted malefic sight on the native's 7th house). > > > >7.   Now let us look at the individual AD’s. Right now this native is passing through the AD of Ju (til Jan 2010). Ju is FK for 7th and has just 12 points. Ju is placed in house A in Navansh. So it should promote the cause of 7th house. So the AD of Ju can give marriage. > > > >8.   The native should get married in the AD of Ju, most probably in the duration from Dec 2008 to March 2009 ( in the 1st sector itself). > > > >Regards, > >Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Nikhilesh ji, Anuo ji, > > >Thanks for the clarifications regarding marriage delay. Lot of > > >concepts were cleared. The chart was from another group, > > >therefore I cannot furnish further details. > > >This is another chart of an unmarried male from another group. He > > >is facing many problems... since last 1 year... He has lost his girl > > >friend bcz her parents forced her to marry someone else. That's > > >why the native is disturbed. He wants to recover from this > > >situation. Is there any chance of recovery in his future life. > > >According to him, he really hates his life. He can't concentrate on > > >his job. Always quarrels with his parents. friends, and also in > > >office. He is not married yet. > > >His details are given below. > > >DOB : 08-08-1975 > > >TOB : 03:05 PM > > >POB : TRICHUR, KERALA, 10N31, 76E13 > > > > > >Here Asc is with 26 points and 7th house with 30 points. > > >The points I can find in the chart are : > > >1. Asc Lord, 7th Lord – Ma, Ve in 4:10; Su lord,7th lord from Su - > > >Mo, Sa in 2:12; > > >Mo lord, 7th lord from Mo – Su, Sa in same house, > > >Ve lord, 7th lord from Ve – Su, Sa in same house. > > >In all they are not very good. > > >2. 12th Lord Ma in house B. Ma aspects NK Ve. FK Ju is in 6th > > >house(12th from house B). > > >3. Ma will not give result since it is aspecting house A and lord of > > >house C and Lord of house B. Ju also will not give result since it > > >aspects house A and is in 6th House. Sa aspects house C and > > >lord of house A. > > >4. Ve is debilitated in D9. Mo is weak (Padya tithi), with Venus > > >and aspected by Mars (which also happens to be 6th lord). > > >5. Ve is aspectd by Sa in D9. Su is with Sa and aspected by Sa in > > >D9. > > >6. Sa is in 4th place from Ju (FK) with less point than Ju, so Sa will > > >give adverse result. (DOES THAT MEAN THE NATIVE WILL > > >NEVER MARRY OR sa WILL NOT ALLOW THE NATIVE TO > > >MARRY IN ITS SUB-PERIOD?) > > >6. Ju(NK) malefically aspects 12th house(house E for bed > > >comforts) > > >Ju aspects its own house the 2nd house(houseA) malefically from > > >6th house. Also Ma aspects this house. These may show extra > > >marital relations. > > >7. Ve is spoiled by malefic sight of Ju from 6th house, 6th lord Ma > > >and in D9 Ve is aspected by Sa. > > >8. Except for Taurus which has 30 SAV, all other love signs have > > >less than 28 points. > > >9. There is more scope for love marriage as the 7th lord Ve is > > >situated in the 4th place from the strongest significator Ma. 7th > > >lord Ve is Samdharmi to Mo. Conjunction of Mo and Ve. > > >Ascendant is scorpio and Ma is the powerful significator. > > >10. Why didn't he marry in Su main? Is it because it is with Sa > > >and aspected by Sa and Ma in D9? Also because of above rules > > >which delays marriage to some extent. > > >11. If as he says, he got separated from his girl friend in Rahu > > >antara, as Ra is in 1:7 axis aspected by Ma 6th lord and > > >Samdharmi to Ra. > > >12. Finally to end such lengthy mail, I conclude he may marry in > > >Ma Dasha- Ma antra. And Ma is the highest significator. > > >Thanks > > >Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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