Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Respected group members, May i have your kind thoughts on following topic:- Why everyone of us behave in our life as if we are born to live forever ? We want money....loving spouse...obidient children....respect from everyone...good health...enjoyment etc,etc,etc throughout our life and we keep running for this in our entire life.We never stop our chase. We want happy conditions to sustain.We always want good and get disturbed when bad comes.We pray for this and our prayers most of time are full of demands. And at the end what happens we all know that very well.In a single moment death takes away everything from us.But still we dont want to listen this. Are we all really lack commen sense and awareness???Or this is a human nature!What supreame power want from us?Does supreame power really want anything from us? Is this the end of all of our efforts that we are left with nothing! What is even more disgusting is that we hurt others many times in our life through our act and thoughts and never want to feel sorry for that.There is always a sense of pride hiding underneath and our unconcious mind knows that. Can learned group members suggest me one thing :- What we should do so that we are left with nothing to do after that. With regards. Kuldhir Singh Bhati Kota,RAJASTHAN Dear Kuldhir: Interesting topic and questions. See below: "kuldhir singh bhati" <kuldhir_singh 22 May 2005 13:52:39 -0000 , vedic astrology LIFE Respected group members, May i have your kind thoughts on following topic:- Why everyone of us behave in our life as if we are born to live forever ? If I've learned anything from Jyotish & Astrology it's the fact, that there's almost nothing, that all of us do. All the interesting, and unique qualities and characteristics of our lives are there, to be better understood, through our Jyotish chart's.... Why...one person.... We want money... especially wants money. There are some people's charts that are more renunciate and they want more spirituality, and then, there are those who have an aversion to money. For the rest of us, 'money' karmas and inclinations are due to our 11th, 12th, and 2nd house Astrological realities. The karma we have, or started with, in terms of an ability to create or gain from money, is due to our 11th houses. Our ability to spend, or expenditures of that money, and the quality or strength of 'saving', is due to our 12th house's. And, how much is left over is due to our 2nd houses. ..loving spouse...obidient children.. Our karmas, or propensity to want and deserve spouses and children, are due to the karmas, of our 5th & 7th houses.... ...respect from everyone.. This is an interesting desire. Those who want respect from everyone may be due to a kind, of innocence or navity. In my case, this was due to a number of factors in my life. I had a Libra rising when I was born and most 'libra' influences translates into wanting 'harmony' from people. But, wanting harmony or respect from others, was further exascerbated because of a weak Mars and Moon, in my birth chart. ..good health. Our karmas for health depend a lot on the Astrological conditions of primarily our: 6th houses, and also 8th and 1st houses. ...enjoyment etc,etc,etc throughout our life and we keep running for this in our entire life.We never stop our chase. All the reasons for the way we are are so very accurately understandable through the rules and principles of Jyotish. The basic human drive to achieve, to grow, is an even more abstract, human nature. There are those however, who have even that 'thirst' of desire, very weak, due to a number of poor, or malefic influences. These people are less intense, (Mars), they're either more self-doubting, (due to complications of either the Rising, Moon or Sun signs.) Or, some people have a lot of inertia, dullness, or lethargy due to a very negative Saturn in their charts. We want happy conditions to sustain.We always want good and get disturbed when bad comes.We pray for this and our prayers most of time are full of demands. And at the end what happens we all know that very well.In a single moment death takes away everything from us. Ahhhh, I see where this is going. But still we dont want to listen this. Are we all really lack commen sense and awareness???Or this is a human nature! I had a similar question, or insight when I was younger. In my case, I translated this, as everyone in the world, was feverishly going about their life business, but they were glossing over the fact, that the basic question of life: "why are we here, and at any moment we could die, were not being answered." Now, I believe that the desire to know the answer to this question of 'death' is due both to the realities of Saturn, the primary Astrological planet associated with death, actually the whole process of dis-ease, disease and death. And, for me, perhaps because my Moon, was with my Saturn, in the 12th house, I wanted to really know the answer to this question too. What supreame power want from us?Does supreame power really want anything from us? Is this the end of all of our efforts that we are left with nothing! Now, this is a very fascinating and interesting question. "What does the supreme power, want from us?" I think the answer is both very obvious and very subtle. Overtly God doesn't seem to want anything particular from us. He hasn't set up shop somewhere, where he or even she, sits on 'their' collective throne and basically, sits there, being God. On the other hand, it does seem that God created this entire creation or Universe, for a reason. To me, I believe, God set up the whole Universe, for life and evolution. Everthing, everwhere is in some process of evolving. Whether it's a plant, microbe, human being, or galactic billions of stars and stellar systems. God, however, has taken a hidden place in this work. God seems to then, create for humankind, the freedom of choice, so that we are free to do really anything. There is only one side-effect, or 'catch'! And, that is we're going to be held responsible for those actions. This is why, I believe, that the Philosophies or Religions that take into account, 'karma', (in the East), or 'as you sow, so shall you reap', (in the West), or, even in modern science, (the scientific principle, "for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.); all, are trying to help us understand this very important aspect of humanity and nature. What is even more disgusting is that we hurt others many times in our life through our act and thoughts and never want to feel sorry for that.There is always a sense of pride hiding underneath and our unconcious mind knows that. I, too found it very interesting and a bit surprising that so many people seem to not either believe in karma, or "as you sow, so shall you reap"; but then, I realized that the appreciation of the laws of nature are not known the same by everyone. It helped me when I realized that "LIFE", is a school, and we're in those Cosmic grades, which have to do, with finding our way, life purpose, and testing any and all the rules and principles of life. There are those, other levels of existence, where souls have already learned these lessons. We're however, not there yet! Can learned group members suggest me one thing :- What we should do so that we are left with nothing to do after that. For each one of us, the literal lessons of our live's are there in our Astrological charts. Not only are the goals and the paths of our lives are there, but also, there is contained within our charts, the literal wisdom that we need to find and grow within. For example, we may find a lack of self-confidence or self-esteem, in our charts. Maybe our Sun's are weak. Or, maybe our Moon's are. But, which ever the precise, Astrological symbolism that's responsible for our 'problems', there is also the indication of what planet we need to strengthen, to solve that problem! So, if it's the Sun, that's weak, then, we need to strengthen our Suns. If it's the Moon, then, we need to strengthen our Moons. For many, it's the influence of any number of malefic influences that are literally, responsible for all our problems. But, contained within those malefics, is the Jyotish vision, of what we need to do, to literally, turn around our problems, into solutions! For a malefic Saturn, and all it's repercussions, we need to find and strengthen our Saturns. We take even one or two steps in this direction, and the consequences of that, weak or undeveloped Saturn sense, begins to change! We might be suffering headaches, or migranes, or maybe we're a nervous type, with health complaints. If we go to an Ayurvedic doctor, they have so many delicious remedies, and prescriptions, that go to creating balance, where there one, is lacking. Why then, shouldn't we realize that the Jyotish professional is like a Mental doctor. Jyotish does have that skill, that will allow any competent, Astrological person, to gain insight into exactly what the problem is. Jyotish/Astrology, then, needs to understand that our weaker, or undeveloped planetary 'parts', also can be strengthened or balanced. Once we learn this, we'll realize we were literally, born for this self-discovery! With regards. Kuldhir Singh Bhati Kota,RAJASTHAN Sincerely, Mark Kincaid Astrologer Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved / (1) 641 472-0000. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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