2-Krishnan, re.. the Psychology of Jyotish/Astrology....Mark Kincaid 5/14

May 14, 2005

This reminds me of some distance calls yet time i get from my friends and

relatives abruptly and seeking time as well as remedies.

It is difficult to make out whether questions posed as urgent are to satisfy

their ' mind' than to know of the Astrological basis

krishnan

Dear Krishnan:

I know what you mean. I, too, have many instances in which people call

and/or email me.

Often, they come during very difficult transits, like the New Moon, time, or

Moon & Saturn transits like recently.

In other cases, they come because they're going through very difficult

dasas, or combinations of both, transits and dasas.

In all cases, I assume people are sincere. If they're not, that's up to

them.

I tell them the Jyotish answer to their question, and then, I pause,

allowing them to understand what we've talked about.

One of the greatest things I've learned from Jyotish, is that the real

answer's to our life's problems, are not intellectual...

Just knowing the answer to our problem, intellectually is not enough.

The real answer's to our problems, is learning how to strengthen those parts

of us, that are presently out of tune.

If it's emotional problems, Jyotish can help us see, exactly where that is

in our charts.

Sometimes it's because Moon is particularly small in a person's chart.

Other times, it's because some malefic is negatively aspecting the person's

Moon.

Sade Sat is a perfect example of this.

Therefore, sometimes, the recomendation is to strengthen or improve the

Moon.

Other time's, it's to strengthen the Saturn.

Sometime's the recomendation is both!

Fun talking to you.

Psychology & Jyotish/Astrology, is very close to my heart, too.

In my case, the lord of the 4th house of Psychology, or the Mind, is Saturn,

in the 12th house, with my Moon, lord of my 10th....hehhehe

take care

Mark Kincaid

vattem krishnan <bursar_99

Sat, 14 May 2005 07:02:50 -0700 (PDT)

Re: 2-SR Rajkumar,.....Re: I am a psychologist. > MK 5/12

This reminds me of some distance calls yet time i get from my friends and

relatives abruptly and seeking time as well as remedies.

The times are also so odd and even prashna kundali too indicates no

immediate solutions and remedies.But these people in problem are so anxious

and you need to really counsel them in terms of psychology as well as

Astrology.

Ofcourse being psychologist is always an added advantage if one is able to

really link it with signs and lagna for interpretation.

I do this as it helps me a lot and in this platform i find many questions

put have psychological basis than astrological needs.it is difficult to make

out whether questions posed as urgent are to satisfy their ' mind' than to

know of the Astrological basis

krishnan

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

Dear Mark, I am a psychologist.

And, I'm hoping you're one of those great, fortunate, Psychologists, like

Carl Jung, who can use Jyotish/Astrology to help in this great and important

field.

I myself, utilize Jyotish as a tremendous self-improvement and Psychological

tool.

Mark K.

ps... oh, yes, I've also helped a number of my friend's who are also

psychologists and counselors, to help them understand their patients,

better. Jyotish, as you may alredy know, is a tremendous tool.

"SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3

Thu, 12 May 2005 07:44:47 -0700 (PDT)

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

hi

Dear Mark,

I am a psychologist.

m> wrote:

Dear Arjun & SR.Rajkumar:

One other important point here to mention, is I've seen the same tendency

amongst people, sometimes, where they're going to this person or that,

trying to find the solutions to their problems.

This really isn't an Astrology problem. Psychologists are approached the

same way sometime, people hopeing that the Psychologist will solve their

problem and then going to the next, and the next,...Psychologist.

The problems, obviously, lies, within us.

Good Astrology, like good Psychology, will be 'that', which seeks to empower

the person, so they can solve, ultimately, their own problems.

Nice talking with you.

Mark Kincaid

arjun pandit <panditarjun2004

Thu, 12 May 2005 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

Do not display cynicism on astrology

Dear friends

I enjoyed your joke in a lighter vein that "going to an astrologer gives

momentary relief till the time the person meets another astrologer".

OK, whosoever expressed such cynism, please address your query to me and I

would definitely give you an answer. But, for sanity, please do not

criticise astrology itself.

I repeat what I said some time ago that even though ones fate has been

written already from birth to death, by invoking the grace of god one can

change the destiny. Simply put if you do more self-less service and more

good deeds, god's grace would help you get out of the malefic affect of evil

planets soon and increase the affect of the benefics. Similary if you

indulge in more bad deeds and hurt and harm as many people as you can, the

benefics stop giving their good affect and your death would be sooner than

expected. Remember the lifestories of our sages. Viswamitra was a king, he

left the palace, sacrificed everything and did tapas and became a sage and

saint with so much power that he could challenge even brahma to create a

heaven on his own. Similary Ravana also left the comforts of palace and did

tapas near Manassarovar (Mount Kailash) and got so much powers. It was a

different matter that this power or siddhi was used for wrong means. Learnt

fraternity may remember how

he conquered the nine planets and ordered them to be in their best position

at the birthtime of his son meghnath. What happened then was a big story.

So, friends, besides seeking astrological solutions, do as many good deeds

to get good.

With best wishes to all

Arjun

"SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3 wrote:

What you say is true Angelie. But I do not know how people say that fate of

a person can be changed. I understand that all changes, either good or bad

is governed by the stars and they are the cause for action made by us. Well

ned to understand more. Anyway the replies anyon in the grup gives will be

satisfyin to them, whether one is an astrologer or not. That is their

psychological state of affairs at the present. This is true for any human

being. Going to an astrologer is momentary relief till the time a person

meets another astrologer.

ritu sharma <private_ritu wrote:

Dear friends,

I am beginning to feel that horoscopes and psychology go hand in hand.. When

people are desperate to know answer they seek answers to believe in anything

at that moment. What is writing in the stars surly can be altered by ones

own will? What is man made can not defey god who created these things?

Regards

Angela Sharma

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May 14, 2005

Dear Mark,

Oh! Great! What a nice way of repartee( presentation): 'the recomendation is to

strengthen or improve the Moon.Other time's, it's to strengthen the Saturn.

Sometime's the recomendation is both!"

In these advisory remarks,it appears(?) that you have got a glimpse of my natal

chart.In my case it is exchange of moon and saturn(between 2nd and 8th lords)

with my 10th lord Mercury in 7th.

The Community with which I deal is highly intellectual and my emphasis on the

behaviour of Celestial bodies do not really convince them.No doubt they are

curious towards Astrology?

Also some of them are not really sure of birth times(may be surprising).So I

need through initiate my psychological abilities and get gradually into

strengths of Planets.For instance I gave time to a Prof in Biomedical Engg not

sure of birth time(age 62 yrs) wants to know of his immediate future.

A very general question but knows that I counsel through Astrology.Infact it was

not an expected time then i cast prasna chart for that time and could scrape

through!

The discussion went for 15-20 mts but with an assurance that I would give him

time to find prospects of his daughter's marriage settled in U.K.

Somehow I have great faith in saturn's abilities and Moon certainly(as Iam a

full moon boy)

"Fun talking to you.": Thanx for your pat

regards

Krishnan