2-SR Rajkumar,.....I am a psychologist. > MK 5/12

May 13, 2005

Dear Rajkumar,

When a distressed person approaches an "astrologer',he is essentially

looking for a counsellor.The distress areas are provided by the

querist,every query having an inbuilt answer.The astrologer observes

the planets their permutation combinations and the likely events

fructifying,favourably or unfavourably.The catch lies in conveying

the not-so-happy future events in a manner which requires attitudinal

adjustments in the querist.The position of Moon shows the resilence

level,which must be recognized,the answers being conveyed to the

maturity level.

To give you an example,decades ago our family doctor was going for a

very major operation with survival chances minimal, astrologically.

My father was their family astrologer, knew the grave

situation,called the elder brother and suggested that it would be in

the best interest of the family if a will was made as a" routine

precaution".The doctor was being operated by most renowned surgeon in

the best hospital of the city,the' success', almost guaranteed,as he

was earlier operated.

The frame of mind was therefore prepared. The operation

was 'successfully 'performed however complications developed and

within a week the patient died.

What I mean to convey the astrologer prepared the family for the

worst, as death can never be predicted.It can be any situation, it

makes the astrologer humble ,a good human being,a well wisher and the

same time offering professional advice.

Astrologers are not infallible.Every prediction is not by the rule

book,intuition plays a major role, enhanced by pure mind.Everyone has

a different curve of life and distinct.We should recognize and accept.

Best regards,

, "SR.Rajkumar"

<rajkumar_v3> wrote:

> Astrologer have to be psychologist themselves. What predictions

theymake should be digestable for their clients.otherwise they

themselves will become the tolls for their client's doom. they should

not exxagerate, but should alsogive remedies psychologically also.

For eg, it can be found out what mineral a person is deficient from

by looking at his horoscope.A good astrologer can also be a doctor

tehr by saying that he can take those vegetables or fruits for better

living. believe me , both have a strong link-psychology and

astrology. U know the truth, u know how to express the truth.

> Raj

>

> Dear Mark, I am a psychologist.

>

> And, I'm hoping you're one of those great, fortunate,

Psychologists, like

> Carl Jung, who can use Jyotish/Astrology to help in this great and

important

> field.

>

> I myself, utilize Jyotish as a tremendous self-improvement and

Psychological

> tool.

>

> Mark K.

>

> ps... oh, yes, I've also helped a number of my friend's who are also

> psychologists and counselors, to help them understand their

patients,

> better. Jyotish, as you may alredy know, is a tremendous tool.

>

> "SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3>

> Thu, 12 May 2005 07:44:47 -0700 (PDT)

> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

> hi

>

> Dear Mark,

> I am a psychologist.

>

> m> wrote:

> Dear Arjun & SR.Rajkumar:

>

> One other important point here to mention, is I've seen the same

tendency

> amongst people, sometimes, where they're going to this person or

that,

> trying to find the solutions to their problems.

>

> This really isn't an Astrology problem. Psychologists are

approached the

> same way sometime, people hopeing that the Psychologist will solve

their

> problem and then going to the next, and the next,...Psychologist.

>

> The problems, obviously, lies, within us.

>

> Good Astrology, like good Psychology, will be 'that', which seeks

to empower

> the person, so they can solve, ultimately, their own problems.

>

> Nice talking with you.

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

> arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

>

> Thu, 12 May 2005 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Do not display cynicism on astrology

>

> Dear friends

>

> I enjoyed your joke in a lighter vein that "going to an astrologer

gives

> momentary relief till the time the person meets another astrologer".

>

> OK, whosoever expressed such cynism, please address your query to

me and I

> would definitely give you an answer. But, for sanity, please do not

> criticise astrology itself.

>

> I repeat what I said some time ago that even though ones fate has

been

> written already from birth to death, by invoking the grace of god

one can

> change the destiny. Simply put if you do more self-less service

and more

> good deeds, god's grace would help you get out of the malefic

affect of evil

> planets soon and increase the affect of the benefics. Similary if

you

> indulge in more bad deeds and hurt and harm as many people as you

can, the

> benefics stop giving their good affect and your death would be

sooner than

> expected. Remember the lifestories of our sages. Viswamitra was a

king, he

> left the palace, sacrificed everything and did tapas and became a

sage and

> saint with so much power that he could challenge even brahma to

create a

> heaven on his own. Similary Ravana also left the comforts of

palace and did

> tapas near Manassarovar (Mount Kailash) and got so much powers. It

was a

> different matter that this power or siddhi was used for wrong

means. Learnt

> fraternity may remember how

> he conquered the nine planets and ordered them to be in their best

position

> at the birthtime of his son meghnath. What happened then was a big

story.

>

> So, friends, besides seeking astrological solutions, do as many

good deeds

> to get good.

>

> With best wishes to all

>

> Arjun

>

> "SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3> wrote:

> What you say is true Angelie. But I do not know how people say that

fate of

> a person can be changed. I understand that all changes, either

good or bad

> is governed by the stars and they are the cause for action made by

us. Well

> ned to understand more. Anyway the replies anyon in the grup gives

will be

> satisfyin to them, whether one is an astrologer or not. That is

their

> psychological state of affairs at the present. This is true for any

human

> being. Going to an astrologer is momentary relief till the time a

person

> meets another astrologer.

>

> ritu sharma <private_ritu> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I am beginning to feel that horoscopes and psychology go hand in

hand.. When

> people are desperate to know answer they seek answers to believe in

anything

> at that moment. What is writing in the stars surly can be altered

by ones

> own will? What is man made can not defey god who created these

things?

>

> Regards

>

> Angela Sharma

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May 13, 2005

rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:Dear Rajkumar,