2-Arjun & SR. Rajkumar....Going to one Astrologer after another....> MK...5/12

May 12, 2005

Dear Friends,

In times of distress going from one astrologer to another is like

trying to go from one drug to another,each one no different than the

earlier one,only the colour of the pills change.

When things go wrong, we go to an astrologer to get a kind and

encouraging word,instead we are smothered with predictions and

parihars.The prescription is limited by the knowledge gymnastics of

the astrologer.Discouraged we move on to another and so on.Astrology

is at best indicative and not infallible.Freedom of choice is

available always to us.

In my considered opinion, having 'experimented',parihars are at best

vitamin pills to strenghten the mind to face the situations as they

come up.

The only process to accept the reality bite, is the one of right

surrender.The power of prayer is extremely powerful if done with

total committment. The astrologer is expected to play a dual role of

predictor and psychologist to provide hope, when discretion is

favoured to frankness.Que sera sera.

Best regards,

Satish

, "SR.Rajkumar"

<rajkumar_v3> wrote:

> Dear Mark and Arjun,

> Now you take the case of a person who is sick. He would like to

get immediate relief. so he would go to a doctor. He doesnt have

patience and if no results are seen, then he rushes to the next

doctor.Same thing happens with a person whose time is bad. He keeps

rotating till his bad time is over. There are also people suggesting

plenty of astrologers saying that this person is best or the other is

best.Then what happens, the person who has just gone to an astrologer

immediately wnts to go to another. He doesnt have patience. If the

astrologer is a ethical one, then he would say just do wht the other

personhas told and have patience. But then psychology plays. like a

doctor prescribes a B complex just for the satisfaction of a patient,

he has to give some remedies for the requirement of the affected

person, otherwise, he will lose the

customer.

> Hence i just wanted to say that fate cannot be changed and people

get momentary satisfaction by going to an astrologer, but time

rules.Do u think Mark, that all the people who come to you will not

go another? Those who have been posting their hor in this group have

been consistently posting in many sites. Why is this. This si because

they are getting a momentary relief in doing so.

> SR.Rajkumar

>

> Dear Arjun & SR.Rajkumar:

>

> One other important point here to mention, is I've seen the same

tendency

> amongst people, sometimes, where they're going to this person or

that,

> trying to find the solutions to their problems.

>

> This really isn't an Astrology problem. Psychologists are

approached the

> same way sometime, people hopeing that the Psychologist will solve

their

> problem and then going to the next, and the next,...Psychologist.

>

> The problems, obviously, lies, within us.

>

> Good Astrology, like good Psychology, will be 'that', which seeks

to empower

> the person, so they can solve, ultimately, their own problems.

>

> Nice talking with you.

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

> arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

>

> Thu, 12 May 2005 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Do not display cynicism on astrology

>

> Dear friends

>

> I enjoyed your joke in a lighter vein that "going to an astrologer

gives

> momentary relief till the time the person meets another astrologer".

>

> OK, whosoever expressed such cynism, please address your query to

me and I

> would definitely give you an answer. But, for sanity, please do not

> criticise astrology itself.

>

> I repeat what I said some time ago that even though ones fate has

been

> written already from birth to death, by invoking the grace of god

one can

> change the destiny. Simply put if you do more self-less service

and more

> good deeds, god's grace would help you get out of the malefic

affect of evil

> planets soon and increase the affect of the benefics. Similary if

you

> indulge in more bad deeds and hurt and harm as many people as you

can, the

> benefics stop giving their good affect and your death would be

sooner than

> expected. Remember the lifestories of our sages. Viswamitra was a

king, he

> left the palace, sacrificed everything and did tapas and became a

sage and

> saint with so much power that he could challenge even brahma to

create a

> heaven on his own. Similary Ravana also left the comforts of

palace and did

> tapas near Manassarovar (Mount Kailash) and got so much powers. It

was a

> different matter that this power or siddhi was used for wrong

means. Learnt

> fraternity may remember how

> he conquered the nine planets and ordered them to be in their best

position

> at the birthtime of his son meghnath. What happened then was a big

story.

>

> So, friends, besides seeking astrological solutions, do as many

good deeds

> to get good.

>

> With best wishes to all

>

> Arjun

>

> "SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3> wrote:

> What you say is true Angelie. But I do not know how people say that

fate of

> a person can be changed. I understand that all changes, either

good or bad

> is governed by the stars and they are the cause for action made by

us. Well

> ned to understand more. Anyway the replies anyon in the grup gives

will be

> satisfyin to them, whether one is an astrologer or not. That is

their

> psychological state of affairs at the present. This is true for any

human

> being. Going to an astrologer is momentary relief till the time a

person

> meets another astrologer.

>

> ritu sharma <private_ritu> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I am beginning to feel that horoscopes and psychology go hand in

hand.. When

> people are desperate to know answer they seek answers to believe in

anything

> at that moment. What is writing in the stars surly can be altered

by ones

> own will? What is man made can not defey god who created these

things?

>

> Regards

>

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May 14, 2005

Dear Raj Kumar,

If some body wants to know thoroghly about his future and some Astrologer is

able to say that your destiny will be as per my forecast,the native is at

liberty to consult as many as available and may/will consult till he gets

clarification as he wants.Even Astrologer(s) too in haste only to say what the

client desires/wants but not what the Chart/planets indicate.

Now the issue concerning Psychology,deals only with abnormalities and almost

every humanbeing is unique in his own way.This even every humanbeing admits and

would also like to be idenified seperately.Trying to bring in together two

different fields that with a man made science has certainly no relevance.if any

relevance we find for the sake of some discussion it is in the context of "The

Human being is a Very Superior animal"So his whims and fancies have no limite be

it consulting Astrologers or some body else.After all reconciling to happenings

and situations,is itself a big challenge that is being explored and exploited by

several people and in sevaral ways.But if we realise there is some where some

ignorance in all of us and able to understand that certain things in LIFE beyond

anybody's approach and have no immediate ways to gratify and experience them as

such(good or bad),there will be no need to run after the

Astrologers/psychologists.In fact all this kind of discussions lead

us no where,certainly not towrds Vedic Sciences.

krishnan

The

"Good Astrology, like good Psychology, will be 'that', which seeks to empower

the person, so they can solve, ultimately, their own problems."

"SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3 wrote:

Dear Mark and Arjun,

Now you take the case of a person who is sick. He would like to get immediate

relief. so he would go to a doctor. He doesnt have patience and if no results

are seen, then he rushes to the next doctor.Same thing happens with a person

whose time is bad. He keeps rotating till his bad time is over. There are also

people suggesting plenty of astrologers saying that this person is best or the

other is best.Then what happens, the person who has just gone to an astrologer

immediately wnts to go to another. He doesnt have patience. If the astrologer is

a ethical one, then he would say just do wht the other personhas told and have

patience. But then psychology plays. like a doctor prescribes a B complex just

for the satisfaction of a patient, he has to give some remedies for the

requirement of the affected person, otherwise, he will lose the customer.

Hence i just wanted to say that fate cannot be changed and people get momentary

satisfaction by going to an astrologer, but time rules.Do u think Mark, that all

the people who come to you will not go another? Those who have been posting

their hor in this group have been consistently posting in many sites. Why is

this. This si because they are getting a momentary relief in doing so.

SR.Rajkumar

Dear Arjun & SR.Rajkumar:

One other important point here to mention, is I've seen the same tendency

amongst people, sometimes, where they're going to this person or that,

trying to find the solutions to their problems.

This really isn't an Astrology problem. Psychologists are approached the

same way sometime, people hopeing that the Psychologist will solve their

problem and then going to the next, and the next,...Psychologist.

The problems, obviously, lies, within us.

Good Astrology, like good Psychology, will be 'that', which seeks to empower

the person, so they can solve, ultimately, their own problems.

Nice talking with you.

Mark Kincaid

arjun pandit <panditarjun2004

Thu, 12 May 2005 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

Do not display cynicism on astrology

Dear friends

I enjoyed your joke in a lighter vein that "going to an astrologer gives

momentary relief till the time the person meets another astrologer".

OK, whosoever expressed such cynism, please address your query to me and I

would definitely give you an answer. But, for sanity, please do not

criticise astrology itself.

I repeat what I said some time ago that even though ones fate has been

written already from birth to death, by invoking the grace of god one can

change the destiny. Simply put if you do more self-less service and more

good deeds, god's grace would help you get out of the malefic affect of evil

planets soon and increase the affect of the benefics. Similary if you

indulge in more bad deeds and hurt and harm as many people as you can, the

benefics stop giving their good affect and your death would be sooner than

expected. Remember the lifestories of our sages. Viswamitra was a king, he

left the palace, sacrificed everything and did tapas and became a sage and

saint with so much power that he could challenge even brahma to create a

heaven on his own. Similary Ravana also left the comforts of palace and did

tapas near Manassarovar (Mount Kailash) and got so much powers. It was a

different matter that this power or siddhi was used for wrong means. Learnt

fraternity may remember how

he conquered the nine planets and ordered them to be in their best position

at the birthtime of his son meghnath. What happened then was a big story.

So, friends, besides seeking astrological solutions, do as many good deeds

to get good.

With best wishes to all

Arjun

"SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3 wrote:

What you say is true Angelie. But I do not know how people say that fate of

a person can be changed. I understand that all changes, either good or bad

is governed by the stars and they are the cause for action made by us. Well

ned to understand more. Anyway the replies anyon in the grup gives will be

satisfyin to them, whether one is an astrologer or not. That is their

psychological state of affairs at the present. This is true for any human

being. Going to an astrologer is momentary relief till the time a person

meets another astrologer.

ritu sharma <private_ritu wrote:

Dear friends,

I am beginning to feel that horoscopes and psychology go hand in hand.. When

people are desperate to know answer they seek answers to believe in anything

at that moment. What is writing in the stars surly can be altered by ones

own will? What is man made can not defey god who created these things?

Regards

Angela Sharma

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