Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Dear Astrologers, I didn't know my one question would have such a debate. But i'm glad to hear people's views. I have decided that it is better to be safe than sorry. Thanks again. I really appreciate Renu In , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs> wrote: > > SHE WILL NOT DO IT .. > Here is y.. > COS ITS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY > Regards > Dhruv > btw even piss n dump are not forced ..they are completely natural and > the first things everyone inthe world does in the morning at brahm > muhurat ...before they chant !! > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > Obviously you do not understand the difference between an activity and > > something natural... > > Shitting and pissing is activity as your need to concentrate and force > > it. > > > > Sex is an activity too and in Tantra ...this activity is also used as > > a means to meditate. > > > > Menses is not an activity and it is not forced. > > > > People do pray at Graveyard and at the Hospital. Temple is not the > > only place where people pray. As lord is all and all is Lord, praying > > anywhere is not any different except of the mind's notions of purity > > and impurity. > > > > I do not wish to fight collective ignorance of people. You are as free > > to think what is right and wrong and I am. I have given my reasonings > > and my comments. It is for the person concerned to see whether or not > > she wishes to follow these comments. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs> > wrote: > > > > > > I can add to that. Going by HIS logic it must be allright to chant the > > > mantra while shitting and pissing and at the graveyard or hospital or > > > while having sex too cos it is all natural.. > > > So why bother at all. > > > It is a Sattvic mantra mister. Use some brains before putting up ur > > > advice. > > > People here take advice seriously and they expect people to have > > > serious knowledge too. > > > It was a dumb statement on ur part. > > > This is a science and we follow some rules that have been made > > > If the mantra is going to be chanted then it has to chanted according > > > to the prescribed norms. > > > Regards > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > ARE YOU SURE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ADVISING? If so, can you please > tell > > > > me WHICH VEDIC AUTHORITATIVE WORK supports your view? > > > > If you are 'just feeling like that' by your own logic, never advise > > > > it to anybody; Mantra recital is not a game nor a play! > > > > Do you think Vedic scriptures are garbage in making rules for > > > > reciting Mantra? You can refer to old messages in archive about > > > > the arguments on same topic. Do you think a mere chemical EQUATION > > > > gives you the product? It needs RIGHT chemicals, RIGHT > > > > process, RIGHT catalyst, RIGHT moderator, RIGHT temperature and > > > > pressure and so on. How can you expect result otherwise? Or > > > > do you know WHAT is the outcome, if anything is wrong? IF YOU DO > NOT > > > > KNOW, DO NOT ADVISE OTHERS.. that is a request and a caution! > > > > > > > > A MANTRA is an empirical formula. It ensures results only when > right > > > > elements(DHYANA, DHYAATR, DHYEYA) are rightly processed > > > > (JAPA, HOMA, DAANA, BHOJANA) in right methods or rules(YAMA, NIYAMA > > > > etc) described by the inventor(RISHI) and under the strict > > > > observation(GURU), with the aid of Catalysts(TRIKARANA SHUDDHI) and > > > > moderators(SANKALPA, CHANDAS, DEVATA, VINIYOGA, NYASA etc). > > > > The result is obtained is stored and protected in proper > way(KAVACHA, > > > > ARGALA, KEELAKA, MANDALA BANDHA). > > > > > > > > NOW tell me...you dare to change any rules/regulations? If so do > you > > > > know what is the final effect? > > > > > > > > Know well about what you say, do and think! > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > > > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Renu > > > > > > > > > > It is only natural to have menses for ladies. One does not become > > > > > impure or inauspicious during the menses. > > > > > > > > > > You can recite the mantra during this period too. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "renu4c" <renu4c> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned astrologers, > > > > > > i have a question regarding reciting the maha > > > > > > mrityunjaya mantra. First of all, i know that it is a maha > mantra > > > > so > > > > > > it can be recited anytime. My question is that if a women is > > > > > > menstruating, can she still recite the mantra. Please answer > the > > > > > > question, as it would help me from committing a paap. > > > > > > > > > > > > may god bless you all > > > > > > renu ji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Love of God changes to Fear of God. I respect your decision. Best Regards , "renu4c" <renu4c> wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > I didn't know my one question would have such a > debate. But i'm glad to hear people's views. I have decided that it > is better to be safe than sorry. Thanks again. I really appreciate > > Renu > > > In , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs> > wrote: > > > > SHE WILL NOT DO IT .. > > Here is y.. > > COS ITS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY > > Regards > > Dhruv > > btw even piss n dump are not forced ..they are completely natural > and > > the first things everyone inthe world does in the morning at brahm > > muhurat ...before they chant !! > > > > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > Obviously you do not understand the difference between an > activity and > > > something natural... > > > Shitting and pissing is activity as your need to concentrate and > force > > > it. > > > > > > Sex is an activity too and in Tantra ...this activity is also > used as > > > a means to meditate. > > > > > > Menses is not an activity and it is not forced. > > > > > > People do pray at Graveyard and at the Hospital. Temple is not > the > > > only place where people pray. As lord is all and all is Lord, > praying > > > anywhere is not any different except of the mind's notions of > purity > > > and impurity. > > > > > > I do not wish to fight collective ignorance of people. You are > as free > > > to think what is right and wrong and I am. I have given my > reasonings > > > and my comments. It is for the person concerned to see whether > or not > > > she wishes to follow these comments. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > , "dhruv_gs" > <dhruv_gs> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I can add to that. Going by HIS logic it must be allright to > chant the > > > > mantra while shitting and pissing and at the graveyard or > hospital or > > > > while having sex too cos it is all natural.. > > > > So why bother at all. > > > > It is a Sattvic mantra mister. Use some brains before putting > up ur > > > > advice. > > > > People here take advice seriously and they expect people to > have > > > > serious knowledge too. > > > > It was a dumb statement on ur part. > > > > This is a science and we follow some rules that have been made > > > > If the mantra is going to be chanted then it has to chanted > according > > > > to the prescribed norms. > > > > Regards > > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > ARE YOU SURE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ADVISING? If so, can you > please > > tell > > > > > me WHICH VEDIC AUTHORITATIVE WORK supports your view? > > > > > If you are 'just feeling like that' by your own logic, never > advise > > > > > it to anybody; Mantra recital is not a game nor a play! > > > > > Do you think Vedic scriptures are garbage in making rules > for > > > > > reciting Mantra? You can refer to old messages in archive > about > > > > > the arguments on same topic. Do you think a mere chemical > EQUATION > > > > > gives you the product? It needs RIGHT chemicals, RIGHT > > > > > process, RIGHT catalyst, RIGHT moderator, RIGHT temperature > and > > > > > pressure and so on. How can you expect result otherwise? Or > > > > > do you know WHAT is the outcome, if anything is wrong? IF > YOU DO > > NOT > > > > > KNOW, DO NOT ADVISE OTHERS.. that is a request and a caution! > > > > > > > > > > A MANTRA is an empirical formula. It ensures results only > when > > right > > > > > elements(DHYANA, DHYAATR, DHYEYA) are rightly processed > > > > > (JAPA, HOMA, DAANA, BHOJANA) in right methods or rules(YAMA, > NIYAMA > > > > > etc) described by the inventor(RISHI) and under the strict > > > > > observation(GURU), with the aid of Catalysts(TRIKARANA > SHUDDHI) and > > > > > moderators(SANKALPA, CHANDAS, DEVATA, VINIYOGA, NYASA etc). > > > > > The result is obtained is stored and protected in proper > > way(KAVACHA, > > > > > ARGALA, KEELAKA, MANDALA BANDHA). > > > > > > > > > > NOW tell me...you dare to change any rules/regulations? If > so do > > you > > > > > know what is the final effect? > > > > > > > > > > Know well about what you say, do and think! > > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > > > > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only natural to have menses for ladies. One does not > become > > > > > > impure or inauspicious during the menses. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can recite the mantra during this period too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "renu4c" > <renu4c> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned astrologers, > > > > > > > i have a question regarding reciting the > maha > > > > > > > mrityunjaya mantra. First of all, i know that it is a > maha > > mantra > > > > > so > > > > > > > it can be recited anytime. My question is that if a > women is > > > > > > > menstruating, can she still recite the mantra. Please > answer > > the > > > > > > > question, as it would help me from committing a paap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may god bless you all > > > > > > > renu ji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Let us open a new only for this subject!!! One innocent question and such a response !!!! :-) _____ natalcharts_biz [natalcharts_biz] Monday, April 11, 2005 12:16 PM Re: maha mrityunjaya mantra and women...UR Right Safe is better Love of God changes to Fear of God. I respect your decision. Best Regards , "renu4c" <renu4c> wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > I didn't know my one question would have such a > debate. But i'm glad to hear people's views. I have decided that it > is better to be safe than sorry. Thanks again. I really appreciate > > Renu > > > In , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs> > wrote: > > > > SHE WILL NOT DO IT .. > > Here is y.. > > COS ITS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY > > Regards > > Dhruv > > btw even piss n dump are not forced ..they are completely natural > and > > the first things everyone inthe world does in the morning at brahm > > muhurat ...before they chant !! > > > > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > Obviously you do not understand the difference between an > activity and > > > something natural... > > > Shitting and pissing is activity as your need to concentrate and > force > > > it. > > > > > > Sex is an activity too and in Tantra ...this activity is also > used as > > > a means to meditate. > > > > > > Menses is not an activity and it is not forced. > > > > > > People do pray at Graveyard and at the Hospital. Temple is not > the > > > only place where people pray. As lord is all and all is Lord, > praying > > > anywhere is not any different except of the mind's notions of > purity > > > and impurity. > > > > > > I do not wish to fight collective ignorance of people. You are > as free > > > to think what is right and wrong and I am. I have given my > reasonings > > > and my comments. It is for the person concerned to see whether > or not > > > she wishes to follow these comments. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > , "dhruv_gs" > <dhruv_gs> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I can add to that. Going by HIS logic it must be allright to > chant the > > > > mantra while shitting and pissing and at the graveyard or > hospital or > > > > while having sex too cos it is all natural.. > > > > So why bother at all. > > > > It is a Sattvic mantra mister. Use some brains before putting > up ur > > > > advice. > > > > People here take advice seriously and they expect people to > have > > > > serious knowledge too. > > > > It was a dumb statement on ur part. > > > > This is a science and we follow some rules that have been made > > > > If the mantra is going to be chanted then it has to chanted > according > > > > to the prescribed norms. > > > > Regards > > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > ARE YOU SURE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ADVISING? If so, can you > please > > tell > > > > > me WHICH VEDIC AUTHORITATIVE WORK supports your view? > > > > > If you are 'just feeling like that' by your own logic, never > advise > > > > > it to anybody; Mantra recital is not a game nor a play! > > > > > Do you think Vedic scriptures are garbage in making rules > for > > > > > reciting Mantra? You can refer to old messages in archive > about > > > > > the arguments on same topic. Do you think a mere chemical > EQUATION > > > > > gives you the product? It needs RIGHT chemicals, RIGHT > > > > > process, RIGHT catalyst, RIGHT moderator, RIGHT temperature > and > > > > > pressure and so on. How can you expect result otherwise? Or > > > > > do you know WHAT is the outcome, if anything is wrong? IF > YOU DO > > NOT > > > > > KNOW, DO NOT ADVISE OTHERS.. that is a request and a caution! > > > > > > > > > > A MANTRA is an empirical formula. It ensures results only > when > > right > > > > > elements(DHYANA, DHYAATR, DHYEYA) are rightly processed > > > > > (JAPA, HOMA, DAANA, BHOJANA) in right methods or rules(YAMA, > NIYAMA > > > > > etc) described by the inventor(RISHI) and under the strict > > > > > observation(GURU), with the aid of Catalysts(TRIKARANA > SHUDDHI) and > > > > > moderators(SANKALPA, CHANDAS, DEVATA, VINIYOGA, NYASA etc). > > > > > The result is obtained is stored and protected in proper > > way(KAVACHA, > > > > > ARGALA, KEELAKA, MANDALA BANDHA). > > > > > > > > > > NOW tell me...you dare to change any rules/regulations? If > so do > > you > > > > > know what is the final effect? > > > > > > > > > > Know well about what you say, do and think! > > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "natalcharts_biz" > > > > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only natural to have menses for ladies. One does not > become > > > > > > impure or inauspicious during the menses. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can recite the mantra during this period too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "renu4c" > <renu4c> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned astrologers, > > > > > > > i have a question regarding reciting the > maha > > > > > > > mrityunjaya mantra. First of all, i know that it is a > maha > > mantra > > > > > so > > > > > > > it can be recited anytime. My question is that if a > women is > > > > > > > menstruating, can she still recite the mantra. Please > answer > > the > > > > > > > question, as it would help me from committing a paap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may god bless you all > > > > > > > renu ji ~! 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