Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Dear Mark, Some things happen for the best. If you hadn't missed out on "Jupiter" earlier, we wouldn't have had the privilege of reading such a great article today! Thanks again, Divya Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it. Soooo much fun flowing in Jyotish ideas .... ciao Mark K. Divya <touchbase_divya Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:18:59 +0100 (BST) Re: 2-Divya: Re. What are the positive & negs. of Jupiter...too....?...> Mark Kincaid 4/6/05 Dear Mark, Some things happen for the best. If you hadn't missed out on "Jupiter" earlier, we wouldn't have had the privilege of reading such a great article today! Thanks again, Divya Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: Dear Mark, I was reading this mail written by you last month where you have mentioned the positive and negative effects of all planets. But it seems jupiter has been missed out. Can you please give the positive and negative effects of Jupiter also? Thanks, Divya Dear Divya: Don't know how I could forget Jupiter! hehehe Okay, here goes.... Jupiter of course, represents spirituality. It literally means 'Guru', or teacher, so Jupiter stands for teaching and learning. It also stands for faith, and hope and good luck. A 'good' Jupiter in our charts, then, would reflect the good karma, of having faith, or deep spirituality. A Good Jupiter would be more receptive to teachers, parents, even mentors. A person with a poor and challenged Jupiter therefore, would have less faith, more skepticism,...more lack of knowingness, about the 'truth', about the spiritual nature of life... A person with a challneged Jupiter, would not have the spontaneous luck of others. They also will tend to be more closed to the advice of others, including parents, and teachers. Education even which is ruled by Jupiter would also suffer. The key to Jyotish transformation, is to open oneself...to more.... Jupiter wisdom. Anything of a spirituatl, even a Philosophical nature, that stirs one's understanind, and truths, and eventually wisdom, all; will increase the positive Jupiter within oneself. Also, specific Vedic sciences like Jyotish, Ayurved, and Yoga, all, will have an immediately benefical influence because they stir and improve the Jupiter within us. Opening oneself, to one's Lord, God, within, also will have a powerful Jupiter increasing effect. Looking at the particular lessons of Jupiter in our charts.... Where is it? In what sign,?.... Are there any negatives surrounding it? Is it the ruler of a good or poor, benefic or malefic houses.... If it's the lord of the 6th, then, Jupiter's wrapped up, around health and healing. If it's the Lord of the 8th, then, Jupiter is about self-transformation. If Jupiter rules the 12th house, then it brings the karmas of the house of loss... or the house of spiritual find! Whatever the quality of the stature, Jupiter is the still, the highest benefic, so even a little bit of Jupiter transformation will go a long way. God says.... when you take 1 or even 2 steps to me, I take a thousand steps to you! Even a little Jupiter wisdom has the power to tranform the life, for all good! Jai Guru! Is one of my favorite expressions... It always stirs in me, that devotional aspect of Guru, which places us within the confines, of a great Holy Tradition, of teacher to teacher, to student, to student,...on and on and on..... God, of course, was the ultimate Guru, and He then taught the Wisdom of life,...to.... In the Bhagavad-Gita, Lord Krishna describes how this knowledge got passed on. He says: "In the beginning, I passed on this wisdom,...to...." He then describes all the Gurus, that first heard about and then began the passing along of all the wisdoms of life. Teachers, today, even those that teach mathemathics, and car mechanics!, all, stem from this eternal, vast tradition.... Sincerely, Mark Kincaid Divya <touchbase_divya Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:56:42 +0100 (BST) Re: Re: 2 Mark-"Q Can you indicate the positives and negatives of all the 9 planets ...?...> Mark Kincaid 3/4/05 Dear Mark, I was reading this mail written by you last month where you have mentioned the positive and negative effects of all planets. But it seems jupiter has been missed out. Can you please give the positive and negative effects of Jupiter also? Thanks, Divya , Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > Dear Mark, > > Wonderful exposition of the point .. if its not asking too much, it will be > very useful if you can indicate the positives and negatives of all the 9 > planets ... > > Also I am curious to know how these negative and positive traits manifest > per the lordships .. > > Say what negative/positive qualities of saturn show up > naturally for capricorn as against the aquarius .. > > I sometimes wonder and think that the whole process of a person being born > in different signs in different births is to learn to balance the qualities > shown by that particular sign .. > > In effect one way to salvation is when the soul is wise enough to experience > all the 12 ziodiacs and learns to balance all the positive and negatives > given by them ... > > which is what Spirituality of asthanga Yoga is all about ... balance and > transcendance !! > > Thanks! > > > Surya Vishnu > > > > 3/4/05 > > > Dear Surya: > > > You said: "if its not asking too much, it will be very useful if you can > indicate the positives and negatives of all the 9 planets ..." > > In short one could say with each planet, there are a number of Jyotish rules > that would lead one to suspect whether or not any Planet is acting > malefically. > > However, there's another way to answer this. > > One can look to see if one is experiencing any of the negative or un-happy, > qualities associated with that Planet, and that can lead one to get a head's > start on determining that. > > For example, with the Sun.... because the Sun rules self- confidence, and > self-esteem, whenever a person has powerful or health self- confidence, then, > it's probably true that their Sun is acting benefically. > > However, if a person experiences a strong amount of 'lack' of > self-confidence, and you look at their chart, and maybe they have the Sun in > the 8th or 12th houses, then one can form a good guess that it's functioning > as a malefic. > > For the Moon, if the person is fragile emotionally, or gets their feeling > hurt easily, or especially, has emotional problems, this is the sign that > the Moon may be acting malefically. > However, if a person is very even, emotionally, or has very good intuition, > and a strong, happy emotional constitution, then, these may be good > indicators of strong Moonish beneficness. > > For, Mercury, the functionings of the intellect are the Astrological 'signs' > whether Mercury is acting maleifically or not. If intellect is clear, and > decision makings are easy and effortless then Mercury may be benefic. > However, if it's hard for a person to think clearly, say in the case of > someone with Mercury in Pisces, then, Mercury may be acting malefically. > > For, Venus, the planet that represents the expressive, or affectionate > heart, one's ability to love, and to appreciate are the signs of a healthy, > balanced Venus. If however, the person is cold, or unexpressive, or even > critical then Venus may be acting malefically. I know a number of > individuals who have Venus in Virgo, and they're extemely hard on > themselves, and have a very difficult time, appreciating circumstances or > even others. > > For, Saturn, balance, health, losses, grief, delays, frustrations are all > the negative associations for Sani. > If Saturn is healthy or in it's Own Sign, etc. then, one is more patient, > calm, and mature, capable to good discipline, and doing the right thing at > the right time. > > For, Mars, if Mars is positive, one has natural enthuiasm, good energy, > strong, firm, and a great defender of the weak. If Mars is found acting > malefically, all kinds of significations of it's maleficness, will be found. > Some of these include, criminal behavior, going too fast, having accidents, > being too pushy, angry, negative, etc. > > For, Rahu & Ketu, the primary important issues include healthy desires or > not. Rahu/Ketu, therefore, represents the 'desire mechanism', so if > Rahu/Ketu is positive one has desires but they don't control, or obsess the > person. However, if Rahu/Ketu is acting malefically, then, one is prone to > obsessions, addictions, unhealthy pursuit of money, power, fame and ego. > > I hope this answers what you were asking. > > > Sincerely, > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > ps... As you probably know there may be many reasons why any planet is found > acting malefically, or benefically.... but to me,... > the key is once we figure out that 'it's' probably acting malefically, then > that can alert us to do anything to try and turn that planet around.... > > In future emails we can talk about exactly what we can do to create more > beneficness, especially when a planet's been leading us astray and acting > malefically. > > I'll give one example. > > Let's say, we are experiencing some kind of strong lack of self- confidence, > and Sun is found to be either in the 12th house, or ... say in the 7th > house. > > I did the chart the other day of a lady and she told me one of her most > challenging parts of her entire life was having a very strong lack of > self-confidence. > > When I looked at her chart, all I could find was her Sun was in the 7th > house. Her Sun was ruling her 10th house, and she had a quality of being in > business with partners, but... > > when she told me she had a strong lack of self-conficence, and feared being > able to do 'it', 'life', or being a success by herself... > > the qualities of her malefically acting Sun became more apparent. > > I've seen this in many others when the Sun's in the house of the 'other' or > the 7th house, often, there's an accompanying 'lack of self- confidence' that > goes along with that... > > So, it was a no brainer, really to tell her, her Sun was probably > functioning in a malefic situation, and she might want to take some steps > that would have the effect of strengthening her Sun. > > She got excited about that, and I told her some ways to do that. > > ciao > > > > > > > > Dear Mark > > Thanks a lot for the quick analysis. > > But I have come across somewhere that saturn being a lagna lord for aquarius > asc doesnot affect the native negatively. > > Regards > Jugal > > > > > Dear Jugal: > > This can be true, but I'll tell you a great Jyotish truth. > > The best way to tell whether a planet is 'acting' malefically, ....is... > > and you know I've come across lots of people with Saturn's in their Own > signs, > and even Exalted, who....are still experiencing the negative 'sides' to > Saturn.... > > anyway....the best way to 'tell'... > > is to ask yourself,....Q Am i experiencing the negative consequences of > Saturn... > > impatience, > frustration, > grief, > loss, losses, > sufferings,,... > ill-health... > > delays,... > pain in the body, > cold, > dry, > > etc... > > Or am I experiencing the positives of Saturn? > > patience,... > smoothness,... > peacefulness, within.... > composure, > doing the right thing at the right time... > deeeeeeep, silence...within... > no cravings, > integration of silence along with activity.... > getting my desires fulfilled without losses.... > or if losses happen, you know things go up and down, anyway,.... > then, I'm not adversely affected by those changes on an outer level.... > > I know people like this! > > who exhibit these wonderfully positive sides of Saturn.... > > Also, it may be true what you read about,.... Saturn being the Lord of > Aquarius, and the Lord > of your first House, in the 5th house may have some positive associations... > > Certainly better then the Lord of the 8th,...in the 12th...for example... > > But, don't forget, your same Saturn is also simultaneously the Lord of the > 12th,...and the > Lord of the 12th in the 5th, is supposed to be functioning, more > malefically,... and some of > the repercussions of this will be.... delays and disappointments, set-backs, > with.... > > children,.... > raising them,... > education, > breaks in education.... > > etc. > > > Finally, the fact that Saturn's also simultaneously aspecting your Sun.... > would also be indicative of 'things' going more slowly then you'd like... > > Also, one thing I forgot to mention, is that Saturn's aspecting also, the 11 > house, which is the > main house of desires.... > > In other words how we move and fulfill our desires is goverened by the 11th > house,... > so, the fact that Saturn's in the 5th, aspecting the 11th.... > is like Saturn in the 11th,....and often in people's charts, who have Saturn > in the 5th or 11th, > even 9th.... all of which can negatively affect the 11th house.... > > Just remember to ask yourself, 'am I experiencing' the positive or negative > side of this planet! > > > ciao > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > 3 Mar 2005 14:31:45 -0000 > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...> > Re: 2-jugal, re.... Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate > Self-Improvement Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3 > > > > > Dear Mark > > Thanks a lot for the quick analysis. > > But I have come across somewhere that saturn being a lagna lord for aquarius > asc doesnot affect the native negatively. > > Regards > Jugal > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote : > >Dear Mark > > > >I was going thru your article, its really amazing. > > > >I have been feeling lot of frustration for quite some time now. Not knowing > >what and where I have to go. May be it is beacuase I am running Rahu > >Mahadasha or may be something else. > > > >My rising sign (at the time of birth) is aquarius and other birth details > >are as under: > >Date 20/08/1973 > >Time 20.00 Hrs > >Place nagaur ( 27.30N and 74.20E) > >Thanks N Regards > >Jugal > > > > > >Dear Jugal: > > > >Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking up your chart fairly quickly,... and I'm > >comparing it to your short description, above. > > > >I find that people, we all, express our charts through our very words, very > >spontaneously. And when I read your words,...these particular one's jump > >out, at me. > > > >#1 you said... "feeling a lot of frustration"....and "not knowing what and > >where to go." > > > >Both these descriptions remind me of Saturn.... > >Saturn's the planet that holds us back,.... and the flavor you said,...of > >'not knowing, 'what', and where to go...are also interesting... > > > >Do you know about Jyotish aspects? > > > >Well, in your chart, your Saturn's in the 5th house, in Gemini, the 3rd > >sign, ... and Sani aspects fully the 3rd house away from it, and 3 houses > >away, is your Leo, which is where your Sun is... > >and though the Sun always loves being in Leo, I've known people with Saturn > >aspecting Sun's/Leo before, and quite often a lot of frustrations result... > > > >So, if we've identified, the right planet that's causing you your > >'frustrations', then, > >we might talk about some ways to strengthen, Saturn.... > > > >My take on Jyotish is, simply put, that the malefics in our charts, are not > >only symbolic > >of our problems,...but .... > >they're even much more profoundly,....about those very things that we should > >consider differently,... and adjusting ourselves,... in the ways of those > >'planets' or malefics,.... should transform ourselves, quite naturally! > > > >So, let's try.... > > > >In your chart, I believe your 'frustrations' are Saturn based. > > > >They could be pitta or Mars based if Mars was so aspecting but I think > >Saturn's the one. > > > >So, consider for a moment that you could strengthen, and therefore, improve > >your Saturn! > > > >Then, the way you'll be able to tell that you're progressing, is those same > >flavors of frustration, .... start to go away! > > > >Now, I believe it's also helpful to understand, that where we have our > >malefics, is where we're experiencing 'frustrations' and challenges, but not > >understanding that we're the one's who are creating those in the first > >place. > > > >For example, if you were having a problem with Mars, you might be having > >accidents, and feeling frustrated because you thought you were going the > >right speed, but lo, and behold, you kept finding yourself slipped, on the > >ground... > > > >So, these malefics represent where our thought patterns are not quite > >correct, or in-tune with Nature... > > > >In the case of Mars it's more obvious, that Nature's telling us...'We're > >going too fast!" > > > >But, in the case of Saturn, we don't see so obviously.... > > > >but, this is where Jyotish comes in and helps... > > > >The idea with Saturn is we're out of tune, with the timing of things. > >Impatience or feelings of frustration, themselves, are common responses, of > >being > >out of tune, with Saturn... > > > >So, by directly, strengthening or growing in the wisdom of Saturn, let's see > >if your > >experience of frustration might subside... > > > >First of all, let me ask,.... how are you feeling? > > > >Are you sleeping well? > >Getting enough rest? > >Well rested? > >And plenty of energy, after you wake up? > > > >Most people are not getting enough rest,... > >or going to bed early enough.... > > > >One of the things we learn from Ayurved is the importance of regular habits, > >going to > >bed on time, early enough.... > > > >Also, what will help Saturn is to put yourself on a more balanced routine... > > > >Go to bed early, 10pm latest for a week.... > >Get up, when you first wake up.... wash, shower, get ready.... > >If still groggy, meditate, if you know how,.... do some yoga.... > >and then go about your day.... > > > >eat at roughly the same time, > >listen to your body,.... > >eat if you're hungry.... > >don't overeat or undereat... > > > >Ayurved says "listen to your body" > >Eat as much as your fire of digestion, is hankering for.... > > > >And then, eat lighter at night, and again go to bed earlier.... > > > >Do, this for a few days.... especially the part of getting more rest.... > > > >and see if you don't start to automatically....feel better! > > > >Frustrations can be outer oriented, but my experience is most of our > >frustrations, are > >inner based,...primarily.... > > > >And once you correct the imbalances....inside....subjectively..... > > > >then, the outer manifestations.... go away! > > > > > >good luck.... > > > >and let me know what happends.... > > > >ciao > > > > > >Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > >"jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > >3 Mar 2005 06:44:10 -0000 > >m.kincaid@m... > >Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self- Improvement > >Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/2/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote : > > > > > >Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology! > > > > > >Join the Astrology Quiz! > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Friends: > > >March 2, 2005 > > > > > > > > >You hear a lot about self-improvement and positive thinking groups, today > > >In fact, the entire 'New Age' movement is full of ennumerable ways in which > > >to unfold or improve human potential. > > > > > >One day I was reflecting upon this and it occured to me that > > >Jyotish/Astrology was the original, and maybe, .. perhaps, the best.... even > > >the Ultimate Self-Improvement > > >Technology! > > > > > >Why? > > > > > >First of all because every area of life is included in our Astrology charts, > > >anyway. > > > > > >Physical Exercise,.... it's there, in our charts... > > >Balance between rest & activity,...is there, in the Saturn's in our > > >charts... > > >Yoga, it's there! > > >Ayurveda!, ... it's there.... > > >Self-esteem, for better or worse, it's there,...in the Sun's in our > > >charts... > > > > > > > > >Also, I think Jyotish/Astrology ... is supreme, because it's so individual, > > >specific, and precise, whereas most self-improvement Philosophys, are too > > >general. > > > > > >In the Jyotish book I'm presently writing there's a section on comparing > > >Astrology to other Philosophys and I compare to Philosophys, like those of > > >Deepak Chopra, Dr. Johnny Gray, even Oprah, has a Philosophy.... > > > > > >All Philosophys, are contained in Astrology,.... but not, all Philosophys > > >are as comprehensive as Astrology. > > > > > >Therefore, embrace your Astrology....! > > >as the ultimate self-improvement technology! > > > > > >#1 ... Define the thing you wish was different in your life! > > > > > >Whether it's better physical health, or mental peace of mind,... or... more > > >money, more love, more attunement with Nature,... etc. > > > > > >#2.... Then, find the Planets, Houses, and all Astrological configurations > > >that are involved with that particular part of your life. > > > > > >#3... Once we've discovered which planets and configurations are holding us > > >back, or frustrating us, .. then,.... > > > > > >#4... Make a decision to focus on strengthening that Planet! > > > > > >This is the key to Jyotish/Astrological, and life improvement, is to > > >identify that Astrological 'trigger', which is literally responsible for > > >that challenge! > > > > > >The problem is,.... for each person, 'that' switch is different. > > > > > >For example, to improve one's love life, Venus is the predominate Planet > > >that's responsible, for love. > > > > > >However, for each person, the 5th & 7th houses, are also indicative of > > >success in the field of pre-marital, and committed, marriage success. > > > > > >Then, you have to take into account all the various aspects of one's chart, > > >and you can come to a very complete picture of what's holding us back. > > > > > >I'll give you an example. > > > > > >Jason is a man whom I did his chart last year. > > > > > >He wanted too, to improve his relationship with his girlfriend. > > >In fact, it was his girlfriend who was 'dragging' him to come have his > > >chart, read. > > > > > >So, we reviewed his chart from the point of view of his experiences, and he > > >got very excited that we could guess what he was like and especially the > > >deeper motivations that were going on, underneath his experiences. > > > > > >He said: "I can't believe you can pin point what's really going on. I mean > > >I don't even know if I understood, exactly but you've really helped me > > >understand myself better!" > > > > > >This is the key to life,....and perhaps, one of Astrology's greatest > > >attributes. > > >Astrology can lead to more self-wisdom. > > >And, as we know ourselves better, we begin to understand what qualities, > > >what characteristics we are bringing to the 'relationship', or our job, or > > >our family, etc. > > > > > >Then, we talked about how we could strengthen the 'relationship' Planets and > > >even the 5th & 7th houses, which we had just discovered were, in fact, at > > >the basis of his frustrations. > > > > > >One of the biggest problems in life, is that we 'blame', others.... > > >for our situations. > > > > > >We blame our 'mate' for our frustrations. > > >We blame our job, the company we work for. > > >Heck, we even blame God, for giving us such frustrating challenges! > > > > > >But, Jyotish/Astrology helps us see that the World, is truely,...as WE ARE! > > >And once we see, that all the qualities, situations and aspects to our life, > > >are there, in our charts,...then, we begin to accept.... > > >that yes,... our life is really our....own. > > > > > >And all we really have to do,....is begin the process of self- change,... > > >self-improvement.... > > > > > >And, good Jyotish/Astrology, knows exactly how and with what Planets, or > > >switches of ours, we need to turn on! > > > > > > > > >So, take the Astrology challenge! > > > > > >Jyotish Quiz! > > > > > > > > > > > >o Identify the part of your life that you wish was different! > > > > > >o Health problems __________? > > >o Financial problems _________? > > >o Relationship problems __________? > > > > > > > > >o Then, find the Planet(s), or Chart configurations, houses & signs, > > >that are > > > literally, reflective of those challenges! > > > > > >o Is it Saturn that's causing you your problems? ________ > > >o Is it Mars ______? > > >o Is it the Sun ______? > > >o Is it the Moon ______? > > > > > >Let us know... > > > > > >It's not that 'these' Planets are causing us our problems! > > > > > >The 'malefics' in our charts are just those aspects of life, that we didn't > > >understand > > >before we came to this Earth.... > > > > > >Identifying which aspects of ourSelves, are responsible for our > > >unhappinesses,... > > >is the key to true growth in life. > > > > > >This is what's going on in our lives, even before we ever heard of > > >Astrology. > > > > > >Someone's having accidents or is extremely accident prone, and at some > > >point, 'they get it'.... "Ahhhh, I'm going to fast!" > > > > > >Then, they begin to adjust, and even if they end up having to re- organize a > > >bunch of different parts of themselves, but, the point is... they do adjust, > > >and the Mars, energy inside of them, ... starts to change! > > > > > >Imagine what it would be like, if we could learn to adjust more early! > > > > > >And, not just because we've gotten sick again, and we've finally gotten sick > > >of staying up too late, eating all kinds of weird food, and smoking too > > >much. > > > > > >Imagine if we could have learned earlier, from our chart's how to change our > > >eating habits! > > > > > >Like that, we all can enjoy an amazing improvement in the quality and > > >character, of our lives through the innocent application of good Astrology. > > > > > >I was thinking the other day and it occured to me that the key to life, is > > >growth. > > > > > >But, Astrology has such a long habit of belief in fate and pre- determinism, > > >and flash! I realized, Astrology needs to embrace it's own, self- improvement > > >nature, and when it does, then Astrology will finally move into it's proper > > >place as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology. > > > > > >We now, need to revive this bias in present day Astrology. We need to > > >understand that Astrology understands about life's transformations, even as > > >much as it understands about our 'fates'. > > > > > >They do both exist, but our present age shows us that those who learn to > > >grow, to adapt, to change and transform, they teach us about possibilities! > > > > > >Astrology, too needs to embrace it's powerful ability to accomplish. > > > > > >Join me in a discussion as to How to Do these things we've been talking > > >about. > > > > > >Anyone who would like, feel free to write me back and we'll go through this > > >process. > > > > > >Tell me about the thing in your life, you wish was different! > > > > > >If you know your chart, tell me your date of birth info, and especially > > >Rising Sign. > > > > > > > > >Then, let's explore together, how we can learn to strength those Planets > > >which seem to be causing you any frustrations. > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > > >Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > >Astrologer, > > >Founder Nature's Astrology. > > >Teacher of Meditation > > >Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, and teacher. > > > > > >Starlight Inc. > > >>641 472-0000. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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