maha mrityunjaya mantra and women

April 12, 2005

Dear friend,

Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The very

Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

Yajurveda.

The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-Atharva.

The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga and

Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So there

are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

unexpected tastes.

Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually not;

especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special purpose;

We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful Shodashakshari

(16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

yours humbly,

KAD

, "arun" <savitarcyber>

wrote:

>

> Namaste Dhruv

>

> The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

Maharishi

> is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There are no

> restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

>

> Regards

> Arun

>

> , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear ARun,

> > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain what you

are

> > saying?

> > Regards

> > Dhruv

> >

> > , "arun"

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > >

> > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that Women

cannot

> > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said to

above all

> > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi is in

the Rig

> > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > arun

> > >

> > > , "dhruv_gs"

<dhruv_gs>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this story is

the

> > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have to

> follow the

> > > > procedure too.

> > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for everything

> > > > REgards

> > > > Dhruv

> > > >

April 12, 2005

Please Explain: Why wash the japa mala, when it is the human female

*body* that is experiencing death and rebirth -- which is what menses

is, biologically, if you think about it! Regeneration! God saying:

There is life beyond all cataclysms, even the biblical and vedic ones

and even the ones that some of us experienced and recorded in the

20th century!

RR

, John Sana

<sanajohn2000> wrote:

> Krishnan, Dhruv, Renu,

>

> I am writing this post for the last time not for discussion of God

nor to lead us to the path of God!" Either ways it is fine with

me! And neither am I preaching somebody their culture or divinity

lessons. I had taken diksha from an eminent acharya about 5 years

back when I was 20. He had mentioned to me that during the menses a

woman can chant the mantra but not go near the altar. And thats what

I have been doing. When in menses I just chant the mantra with the

japa mala after washing it in water. And on the 4th day, I simply

wash the japa mala & resume my pooja. Just like members posting

their responses in anger, happiness, joy & pain. I posted my views

too.

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April 13, 2005

Dear Kad,

Om namaha sivaya.

>In addition, the inventor's notes or

>description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

>JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available.

Yes the rules are important. But if there is no BHAKTI all these rules

and regulations are useless in Kaliyuga.

It is Bhakti tat gives the power to the mantra in Kaliyug.We are not

man or women! We are ATMA and in the spiritual world we are all

female ....

If some only follows rules and regulation with out Bhakti, no

spiritual benefit from Chanting the mantra. The Brahmins should to

encourage the sadhakas to chant the holy names of the lord!Don't your

be afraid to chant, Siva is not a Computer which works with rules and

regulations only, the Lord see you bhakti and motivation first, and

then maybe he looks on regulations... !

best regards

Shad

Durga Devi Ki Jay

-- In , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

> Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The very

> Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> Yajurveda.

>

> The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-Atharva.

> The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga and

> Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

> JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So there

> are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> unexpected tastes.

>

> Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually not;

> especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special purpose;

> We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful Shodashakshari

> (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

>

> yours humbly,

> KAD

>

> , "arun" <savitarcyber>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Dhruv

> >

> > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> Maharishi

> > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There are no

> > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> >

> > Regards

> > Arun

> >

> > , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear ARun,

> > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain what you

> are

> > > saying?

> > > Regards

> > > Dhruv

> > >

> > > , "arun"

> <savitarcyber>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that Women

> cannot

> > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said to

> above all

> > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi is in

> the Rig

> > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > arun

> > > >

> > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> <dhruv_gs>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this story is

> the

> > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have to

> > follow the

> > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for everything

> > > > > REgards

> > > > > Dhruv

> > > > >

April 14, 2005

Respected KAD Prabhu and other Gurus ,

Please oblige by instructing with a complete and full guide-line of

mantra japam step by step as per the teachings of the Vedas.I shall

be indeed obliged for any authentic guidence in this respect.

Waiting for your kind help.

Pranam..

Shankar

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

> Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The

very

> Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> Yajurveda.

>

> The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-Atharva.

> The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga and

> Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

> JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So there

> are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> unexpected tastes.

>

> Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually not;

> especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special purpose;

> We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful

Shodashakshari

> (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

>

> yours humbly,

> KAD

>

> , "arun" <savitarcyber>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Dhruv

> >

> > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> Maharishi

> > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There are

no

> > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> >

> > Regards

> > Arun

> >

> > , "dhruv_gs"

<dhruv_gs>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear ARun,

> > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain what

you

> are

> > > saying?

> > > Regards

> > > Dhruv

> > >

> > > , "arun"

> <savitarcyber>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that Women

> cannot

> > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said to

> above all

> > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi is

in

> the Rig

> > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > arun

> > > >

> > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> <dhruv_gs>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this story

is

> the

> > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have to

> > follow the

> > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for everything

> > > > > REgards

> > > > > Dhruv

> > > > >

April 14, 2005

Dear Sri Kad

The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the one who

knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth. It is a

matter to be discovered.

In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine through

it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are to focus

the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision. In

Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

Taitterya Upanishad.

However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions were made

a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an improper

BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear does

not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha. Therefore,

by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa (wrong

understanding).

Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our Rishis have

written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it too.

Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no Devotion

and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the certain

mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu who

had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy life.

Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of opposities

in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the pairs that

mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success and

failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting the

thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above, you

have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You have

strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above all

commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when there

was none.

You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita Chapter

2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100 other

references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini Ranjan

that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and its

possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists in

every Gurukul in the country.

I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I do not

wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the Lord.

Best Regards

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

> Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The very

> Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> Yajurveda.

>

> The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-Atharva.

> The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga and

> Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

> JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So there

> are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> unexpected tastes.

>

> Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually not;

> especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special purpose;

> We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful Shodashakshari

> (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

>

> yours humbly,

> KAD

>

> , "arun" <savitarcyber>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Dhruv

> >

> > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> Maharishi

> > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There are no

> > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> >

> > Regards

> > Arun

> >

> > , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear ARun,

> > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain what you

> are

> > > saying?

> > > Regards

> > > Dhruv

> > >

> > > , "arun"

> <savitarcyber>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that Women

> cannot

> > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said to

> above all

> > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi is in

> the Rig

> > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > arun

> > > >

> > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> <dhruv_gs>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this story is

> the

> > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have to

> > follow the

> > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for everything

> > > > > REgards

> > > > > Dhruv

> > > > >

April 14, 2005

Dear prabhuji,

thanks for this message!

om namaha sivaya

best regards

Shad

, "natalcharts_biz"

<natalcharts_biz> wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Kad

>

> The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the one who

> knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

> achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth. It is a

> matter to be discovered.

>

> In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine through

> it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are to focus

> the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision. In

> Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

> Taitterya Upanishad.

>

> However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions were made

> a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an improper

> BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear does

> not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha. Therefore,

> by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa (wrong

> understanding).

>

> Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our Rishis have

> written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it too.

>

> Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no Devotion

> and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the certain

> mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu who

> had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy life.

>

> Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of opposities

> in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the pairs that

> mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success and

> failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting the

> thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

> sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

> involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

>

> To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above, you

> have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You have

> strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above all

> commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when there

> was none.

>

> You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

> Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

>

> Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita Chapter

> 2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100 other

> references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

>

> I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini Ranjan

> that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

> learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

> discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and its

> possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists in

> every Gurukul in the country.

>

> I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I do not

> wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the Lord.

>

> Best Regards

>

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> > unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> > famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The very

> > Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> > Yajurveda.

> >

> > The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> > scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-Atharva.

> > The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga and

> > Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> > description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations for

> > JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> > the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> > nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> > in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So there

> > are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> > Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> > unexpected tastes.

> >

> > Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually not;

> > especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> > teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special purpose;

> > We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> > known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful Shodashakshari

> > (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> > SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> > purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> > well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

> >

> > yours humbly,

> > KAD

> >

> > , "arun" <savitarcyber>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Dhruv

> > >

> > > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> > Maharishi

> > > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There are no

> > > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Arun

> > >

> > > , "dhruv_gs" <dhruv_gs>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear ARun,

> > > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain what you

> > are

> > > > saying?

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dhruv

> > > >

> > > > , "arun"

> > <savitarcyber>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that Women

> > cannot

> > > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said to

> > above all

> > > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi is in

> > the Rig

> > > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > arun

> > > > >

> > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this story is

> > the

> > > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have to

> > > follow the

> > > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for everything

> > > > > > REgards

> > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > >

April 15, 2005

Dear friend,

I pity your mis-interpretation of my message. I never frightened

anybody of doing Mantra-Japa. I just want to avoid it from diluting

to maintain the SANCTITY, which certainly requires rules and

regulations to be followed. I have already explained why and how a

Mantra resembles a chemical equation. Our friend Renu or anybody for

that matter can chant any mantra if got from an authoritative Guru

but maintaining the sanctity. No work you mentioned quote any

exception to this. Mantramarga is materialistic but Vedanta is

metaphysical and non-materialistic.

While in periods, a woman is called RAJASWALAA - who certainly gets

RAJO - GUNA bodily and mentally, which is not so good for SATWIK

Vedic Mantra Japa. Perhaps you have understood now what I exactly

meant. If still you are confused, please refer to classical Vedic

texts. If one is interested in Vedantic way, there is no need of any

Mantra, tantra or yantra and just Meditation would guide him/her

because there is KARMA-PHALA-TYAAGA in vedantic way unlike usual

Mantras!

humbly,

Kad

, "natalcharts_biz"

<natalcharts_biz> wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Kad

>

> The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the one

who

> knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

> achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth. It

is a

> matter to be discovered.

>

> In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine

through

> it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are to

focus

> the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision. In

> Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

> Taitterya Upanishad.

>

> However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions were

made

> a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an

improper

> BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear does

> not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha.

Therefore,

> by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa

(wrong

> understanding).

>

> Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our Rishis

have

> written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it

too.

>

> Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no

Devotion

> and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the certain

> mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu who

> had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy

life.

>

> Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of

opposities

> in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the pairs

that

> mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success and

> failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting the

> thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

> sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

> involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

>

> To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above, you

> have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You have

> strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above all

> commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when

there

> was none.

>

> You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

> Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

>

> Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita

Chapter

> 2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100 other

> references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

>

> I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini

Ranjan

> that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

> learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

> discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and its

> possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists in

> every Gurukul in the country.

>

> I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I do

not

> wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the Lord.

>

> Best Regards

>

, "kadrudra"

<kadrudra> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> > unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> > famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The

very

> > Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> > Yajurveda.

> >

> > The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> > scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-

Atharva.

> > The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga

and

> > Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> > description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations

for

> > JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> > the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> > nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> > in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So

there

> > are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> > Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> > unexpected tastes.

> >

> > Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually

not;

> > especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> > teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special

purpose;

> > We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> > known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful

Shodashakshari

> > (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> > SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> > purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> > well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

> >

> > yours humbly,

> > KAD

> >

> > , "arun"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Dhruv

> > >

> > > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> > Maharishi

> > > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There

are no

> > > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Arun

> > >

> > > , "dhruv_gs"

<dhruv_gs>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear ARun,

> > > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain

what you

> > are

> > > > saying?

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dhruv

> > > >

> > > > , "arun"

> > <savitarcyber>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that

Women

> > cannot

> > > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said

to

> > above all

> > > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi

is in

> > the Rig

> > > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > arun

> > > > >

> > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this

story is

> > the

> > > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have

to

> > > follow the

> > > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for

everything

> > > > > > REgards

> > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > >

April 15, 2005

Dear friends,

Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power of this

holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in pain. I

automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or someone I

love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this in bed,

focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his hand raised

in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite the

mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and continued to

meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while I went

about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted, specified

that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its intensity, and

takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that morning, I

started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was completely back

to normal.

This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in my mind

that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra, anytime and

anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with humility,

devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before bathing, but

His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a mother picks

up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord will take

me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings, not because I

deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself and for my

loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my loved ones

everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell. And this is

not the only such mantra either - I've known people that achieve

health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram, Hanuman

Chalisa etc.

-Sreelatha

April 15, 2005

Ms Sreelatha,

Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your chanting.

For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb press the

middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done as per

convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras for

different problems,but detox mudra is good,

With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

Best wishes,

Satish

, "V. Sreelatha"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power of this

> holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in pain. I

> automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or someone I

> love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this in bed,

> focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his hand

raised

> in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite the

> mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and continued to

> meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while I went

> about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted,

specified

> that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its intensity, and

> takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that

morning, I

> started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was completely

back

> to normal.

>

> This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in my mind

> that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra, anytime and

> anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

humility,

> devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before bathing,

but

> His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a mother

picks

> up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord will take

> me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings, not

because I

> deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

> experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself and for my

> loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my loved

ones

> everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell. And this

is

> not the only such mantra either - I've known people that achieve

> health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram, Hanuman

> Chalisa etc.

>

> -Sreelatha

April 16, 2005

Dear Sri Kad

Now Gods and their mantras can be diluted! Wow! You mean Gods and

their mantras change their purity as per your rules and regulations.

Sattwa, Rajas and Tamas are three properties of mother nature are are

in each and everyone in seemingly different matras. By being under

Rajo Guna, does not mean you cannot chant a Mantra. By chanting a

mantra under influence of Rajo Guna also changes it to Sattwa.

However, Mahamritunjya Mantra is a moksha dayee mantra and not a

"Sattwic Mantra" and it certainly not "diluted" by not following

"your" rules and regulations. IN your mind, there are more divisions

than anyone can deal with.

Karma Phala Tyaga is not Tyaaga for Karma Phala but understanding the

results are in the hands of the Lord and not in Mine. Even when lord

krishna gave Bhagavad Gita sermon to Sri Arjuna, he expected him to

understand. One always does action expecting a result however results

are always in the hands of the Lord and we cannot govern them. Action

is what is in our hands. This is the meaning of "Karmane Vaadika...."

So your incorrect understanding of Vedanta and mantra shastra shows

how superficially you are looking at things.

Before having pity on me, have pity on your vakra buddhi. I wish no

longer to discuss this issue with you or anyone else as there is no

learning for anyone.

I remain

Thanks and Regards

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

> I pity your mis-interpretation of my message. I never frightened

> anybody of doing Mantra-Japa. I just want to avoid it from diluting

> to maintain the SANCTITY, which certainly requires rules and

> regulations to be followed. I have already explained why and how a

> Mantra resembles a chemical equation. Our friend Renu or anybody for

> that matter can chant any mantra if got from an authoritative Guru

> but maintaining the sanctity. No work you mentioned quote any

> exception to this. Mantramarga is materialistic but Vedanta is

> metaphysical and non-materialistic.

>

> While in periods, a woman is called RAJASWALAA - who certainly gets

> RAJO - GUNA bodily and mentally, which is not so good for SATWIK

> Vedic Mantra Japa. Perhaps you have understood now what I exactly

> meant. If still you are confused, please refer to classical Vedic

> texts. If one is interested in Vedantic way, there is no need of any

> Mantra, tantra or yantra and just Meditation would guide him/her

> because there is KARMA-PHALA-TYAAGA in vedantic way unlike usual

> Mantras!

>

> humbly,

> Kad

>

> , "natalcharts_biz"

> <natalcharts_biz> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Kad

> >

> > The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the one

> who

> > knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

> > achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth. It

> is a

> > matter to be discovered.

> >

> > In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine

> through

> > it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are to

> focus

> > the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision. In

> > Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

> > Taitterya Upanishad.

> >

> > However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions were

> made

> > a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an

> improper

> > BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear does

> > not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha.

> Therefore,

> > by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa

> (wrong

> > understanding).

> >

> > Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our Rishis

> have

> > written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it

> too.

> >

> > Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no

> Devotion

> > and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the certain

> > mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu who

> > had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy

> life.

> >

> > Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of

> opposities

> > in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the pairs

> that

> > mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success and

> > failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting the

> > thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

> > sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

> > involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

> >

> > To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above, you

> > have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You have

> > strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above all

> > commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when

> there

> > was none.

> >

> > You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

> > Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

> >

> > Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita

> Chapter

> > 2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100 other

> > references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

> >

> > I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini

> Ranjan

> > that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

> > learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

> > discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and its

> > possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists in

> > every Gurukul in the country.

> >

> > I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I do

> not

> > wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the Lord.

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > , "kadrudra"

> <kadrudra> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> > > unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in the

> > > famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka. The

> very

> > > Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> > > Yajurveda.

> > >

> > > The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> > > scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-

> Atharva.

> > > The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in Vedanga

> and

> > > Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> > > description of Mantra and its parts with rules and regulations

> for

> > > JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> > > the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> > > nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is available

> > > in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So

> there

> > > are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct fruits.

> > > Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result in

> > > unexpected tastes.

> > >

> > > Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually

> not;

> > > especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> > > teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special

> purpose;

> > > We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> > > known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful

> Shodashakshari

> > > (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> > > SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> > > purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> > > well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

> > >

> > > yours humbly,

> > > KAD

> > >

> > > , "arun"

> <savitarcyber>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Dhruv

> > > >

> > > > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> > > Maharishi

> > > > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space. There

> are no

> > > > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-Veda.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Arun

> > > >

> > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> <dhruv_gs>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear ARun,

> > > > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain

> what you

> > > are

> > > > > saying?

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Dhruv

> > > > >

> > > > > , "arun"

> > > <savitarcyber>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that

> Women

> > > cannot

> > > > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are said

> to

> > > above all

> > > > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha Maharishi

> is in

> > > the Rig

> > > > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > arun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this

> story is

> > > the

> > > > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u have

> to

> > > > follow the

> > > > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for

> everything

> > > > > > > REgards

> > > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > > >

April 16, 2005

My dear great Vedantin and Philosopher :-),

I am a humble creature sharing whatever I know. Why should it make

you get annoyed?

your comment:

>>Now Gods and their mantras can be diluted! Wow! You mean Gods and

>>their mantras change their purity as per your rules and regulations.

None of my messages reveal this; It is YOUR OWN IMAGINATION!

I have not given ANY RULES for PURITY; Rules are given to us by

ancestors in written and sometimes non-written forms.

your comment:

>>By being under Rajo Guna, does not mean you cannot chant a Mantra.

By chanting a

>>mantra under influence of Rajo Guna also changes it to Sattwa.

Now tell me which classical text says this? If at all it exists,

quote the chapter and verse please.(specifically about Rajaswala)

I never created all these rules; if there is an objection, ask the

person who did it for EXACT reason.

Ask Indian farmers why they do not sow the seed or plough when

BHOOMI, the earth gets RAJOTPATTI(menstruation)

for three days. DID I CREATE THIS RULE TOO?

your comment:

>>However, Mahamritunjya Mantra is a moksha dayee mantra and not a

>>"Sattwic Mantra" and it certainly not "diluted" by not following

>>"your" rules and regulations. IN your mind, there are more divisions

>>than anyone can deal with.

There is no MY rule mentioned anywhere! MRITYUNJAYA MANTRA is used to

get rid of MRITYU the death.

Now it has diluted and changed its real objective!! Some say it is

for good health and some say it is for wealth and some

say it is for peace of mind. What works actually in most of the cases

is FAITH and belief but not mantra! Now u added that

it is for MOKSHA! Getting rid of MRITYU is to LIVE LONGER, and to

remain here on MARTYA(where all die)LOKA; where is Moksha?

In that way it IS materialistic ambition!

your comment:

>>Karma Phala Tyaga is not Tyaaga for Karma Phala but understanding

the

>>results are in the hands of the Lord and not in Mine....This is the

meaning of "Karmane Vaadika...."

You yourself are confused and write self contradictory statements! (I

hope your quote " Karmane Vaadika.."

is Vikshepa of "KarmaNyevaadhikaraste....")

your comment:

>>So your incorrect understanding of Vedanta and mantra shastra shows

>>how superficially you are looking at things.

I have always believed that 'KNOWN IS LIMITED AND UNKNOWN IS

UNLIMITED'. Until 'deep' thinkers like you show the

depth of the shastras with correct PRAMANA AND PRAMEYA, my experience

will be the GURU for me, unchallenged!

your comment:

>>Before having pity on me, have pity on your vakra buddhi. I wish no

>>longer to discuss this issue with you or anyone else as there is no

>>learning for anyone.

Your envy and impatience has shown up in words! It for the readers

and silent observers to decide whether

mine is a VAKRA BUDDHI!? in revealing the truth and sharing a piece

of knowledge.

I have an objective in mind - to protect the sanctity and values of

Vedic principles, never subduing to

prejudice or supersition or to ultra-modernism. Until then I do not

retire from the battle field!

yours humbly,

KAD

, "natalcharts_biz"

<natalcharts_biz> wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Kad

>

> Now Gods and their mantras can be diluted! Wow! You mean Gods and

> their mantras change their purity as per your rules and regulations.

>

> Sattwa, Rajas and Tamas are three properties of mother nature are

are

> in each and everyone in seemingly different matras. By being under

> Rajo Guna, does not mean you cannot chant a Mantra. By chanting a

> mantra under influence of Rajo Guna also changes it to Sattwa.

>

> However, Mahamritunjya Mantra is a moksha dayee mantra and not a

> "Sattwic Mantra" and it certainly not "diluted" by not following

> "your" rules and regulations. IN your mind, there are more divisions

> than anyone can deal with.

>

> Karma Phala Tyaga is not Tyaaga for Karma Phala but understanding

the

> results are in the hands of the Lord and not in Mine. Even when lord

> krishna gave Bhagavad Gita sermon to Sri Arjuna, he expected him to

> understand. One always does action expecting a result however

results

> are always in the hands of the Lord and we cannot govern them.

Action

> is what is in our hands. This is the meaning of "Karmane

Vaadika...."

>

> So your incorrect understanding of Vedanta and mantra shastra shows

> how superficially you are looking at things.

>

> Before having pity on me, have pity on your vakra buddhi. I wish no

> longer to discuss this issue with you or anyone else as there is no

> learning for anyone.

>

> I remain

> Thanks and Regards

>

> , "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > I pity your mis-interpretation of my message. I never frightened

> > anybody of doing Mantra-Japa. I just want to avoid it from

diluting

> > to maintain the SANCTITY, which certainly requires rules and

> > regulations to be followed. I have already explained why and how

a

> > Mantra resembles a chemical equation. Our friend Renu or anybody

for

> > that matter can chant any mantra if got from an authoritative

Guru

> > but maintaining the sanctity. No work you mentioned quote any

> > exception to this. Mantramarga is materialistic but Vedanta is

> > metaphysical and non-materialistic.

> >

> > While in periods, a woman is called RAJASWALAA - who certainly

gets

> > RAJO - GUNA bodily and mentally, which is not so good for SATWIK

> > Vedic Mantra Japa. Perhaps you have understood now what I exactly

> > meant. If still you are confused, please refer to classical Vedic

> > texts. If one is interested in Vedantic way, there is no need of

any

> > Mantra, tantra or yantra and just Meditation would guide him/her

> > because there is KARMA-PHALA-TYAAGA in vedantic way unlike usual

> > Mantras!

> >

> > humbly,

> > Kad

> >

> > , "natalcharts_biz"

> > <natalcharts_biz> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Kad

> > >

> > > The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the

one

> > who

> > > knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

> > > achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth.

It

> > is a

> > > matter to be discovered.

> > >

> > > In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine

> > through

> > > it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are

to

> > focus

> > > the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision.

In

> > > Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

> > > Taitterya Upanishad.

> > >

> > > However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions

were

> > made

> > > a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an

> > improper

> > > BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear

does

> > > not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha.

> > Therefore,

> > > by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa

> > (wrong

> > > understanding).

> > >

> > > Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our

Rishis

> > have

> > > written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it

> > too.

> > >

> > > Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no

> > Devotion

> > > and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the

certain

> > > mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu

who

> > > had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy

> > life.

> > >

> > > Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of

> > opposities

> > > in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the

pairs

> > that

> > > mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success

and

> > > failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting

the

> > > thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

> > > sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

> > > involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

> > >

> > > To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above,

you

> > > have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You

have

> > > strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above

all

> > > commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when

> > there

> > > was none.

> > >

> > > You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

> > > Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

> > >

> > > Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita

> > Chapter

> > > 2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100

other

> > > references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

> > >

> > > I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini

> > Ranjan

> > > that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

> > > learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

> > > discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and

its

> > > possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists

in

> > > every Gurukul in the country.

> > >

> > > I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I

do

> > not

> > > wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the

Lord.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > >

> > > , "kadrudra"

> > <kadrudra> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friend,

> > > >

> > > > Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> > > > unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in

the

> > > > famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka.

The

> > very

> > > > Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> > > > Yajurveda.

> > > >

> > > > The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> > > > scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-

> > Atharva.

> > > > The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in

Vedanga

> > and

> > > > Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> > > > description of Mantra and its parts with rules and

regulations

> > for

> > > > JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> > > > the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> > > > nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is

available

> > > > in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So

> > there

> > > > are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct

fruits.

> > > > Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result

in

> > > > unexpected tastes.

> > > >

> > > > Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually

> > not;

> > > > especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> > > > teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special

> > purpose;

> > > > We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> > > > known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful

> > Shodashakshari

> > > > (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> > > > SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> > > > purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> > > > well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

> > > >

> > > > yours humbly,

> > > > KAD

> > > >

> > > > , "arun"

> > <savitarcyber>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Dhruv

> > > > >

> > > > > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of

Vasishtha

> > > > Maharishi

> > > > > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space.

There

> > are no

> > > > > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-

Veda.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Arun

> > > > >

> > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear ARun,

> > > > > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > > > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain

> > what you

> > > > are

> > > > > > saying?

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "arun"

> > > > <savitarcyber>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that

> > Women

> > > > cannot

> > > > > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are

said

> > to

> > > > above all

> > > > > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

Maharishi

> > is in

> > > > the Rig

> > > > > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > arun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > > > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this

> > story is

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u

have

> > to

> > > > > follow the

> > > > > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for

> > everything

> > > > > > > > REgards

> > > > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > > > >

April 16, 2005

I expected this kind of a response. Thank you.

Regards

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote:

>

> My dear great Vedantin and Philosopher :-),

>

> I am a humble creature sharing whatever I know. Why should it make

> you get annoyed?

>

> your comment:

> >>Now Gods and their mantras can be diluted! Wow! You mean Gods and

> >>their mantras change their purity as per your rules and regulations.

>

> None of my messages reveal this; It is YOUR OWN IMAGINATION!

> I have not given ANY RULES for PURITY; Rules are given to us by

> ancestors in written and sometimes non-written forms.

>

> your comment:

> >>By being under Rajo Guna, does not mean you cannot chant a Mantra.

> By chanting a

> >>mantra under influence of Rajo Guna also changes it to Sattwa.

>

> Now tell me which classical text says this? If at all it exists,

> quote the chapter and verse please.(specifically about Rajaswala)

> I never created all these rules; if there is an objection, ask the

> person who did it for EXACT reason.

>

> Ask Indian farmers why they do not sow the seed or plough when

> BHOOMI, the earth gets RAJOTPATTI(menstruation)

> for three days. DID I CREATE THIS RULE TOO?

>

> your comment:

> >>However, Mahamritunjya Mantra is a moksha dayee mantra and not a

> >>"Sattwic Mantra" and it certainly not "diluted" by not following

> >>"your" rules and regulations. IN your mind, there are more divisions

> >>than anyone can deal with.

>

> There is no MY rule mentioned anywhere! MRITYUNJAYA MANTRA is used to

> get rid of MRITYU the death.

> Now it has diluted and changed its real objective!! Some say it is

> for good health and some say it is for wealth and some

> say it is for peace of mind. What works actually in most of the cases

> is FAITH and belief but not mantra! Now u added that

> it is for MOKSHA! Getting rid of MRITYU is to LIVE LONGER, and to

> remain here on MARTYA(where all die)LOKA; where is Moksha?

> In that way it IS materialistic ambition!

>

> your comment:

> >>Karma Phala Tyaga is not Tyaaga for Karma Phala but understanding

> the

> >>results are in the hands of the Lord and not in Mine....This is the

> meaning of "Karmane Vaadika...."

>

> You yourself are confused and write self contradictory statements! (I

> hope your quote " Karmane Vaadika.."

> is Vikshepa of "KarmaNyevaadhikaraste....")

>

> your comment:

> >>So your incorrect understanding of Vedanta and mantra shastra shows

> >>how superficially you are looking at things.

>

> I have always believed that 'KNOWN IS LIMITED AND UNKNOWN IS

> UNLIMITED'. Until 'deep' thinkers like you show the

> depth of the shastras with correct PRAMANA AND PRAMEYA, my experience

> will be the GURU for me, unchallenged!

>

> your comment:

> >>Before having pity on me, have pity on your vakra buddhi. I wish no

> >>longer to discuss this issue with you or anyone else as there is no

> >>learning for anyone.

>

> Your envy and impatience has shown up in words! It for the readers

> and silent observers to decide whether

> mine is a VAKRA BUDDHI!? in revealing the truth and sharing a piece

> of knowledge.

>

> I have an objective in mind - to protect the sanctity and values of

> Vedic principles, never subduing to

> prejudice or supersition or to ultra-modernism. Until then I do not

> retire from the battle field!

>

> yours humbly,

> KAD

>

, "natalcharts_biz"

> <natalcharts_biz> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Kad

> >

> > Now Gods and their mantras can be diluted! Wow! You mean Gods and

> > their mantras change their purity as per your rules and regulations.

> >

> > Sattwa, Rajas and Tamas are three properties of mother nature are

> are

> > in each and everyone in seemingly different matras. By being under

> > Rajo Guna, does not mean you cannot chant a Mantra. By chanting a

> > mantra under influence of Rajo Guna also changes it to Sattwa.

> >

> > However, Mahamritunjya Mantra is a moksha dayee mantra and not a

> > "Sattwic Mantra" and it certainly not "diluted" by not following

> > "your" rules and regulations. IN your mind, there are more divisions

> > than anyone can deal with.

> >

> > Karma Phala Tyaga is not Tyaaga for Karma Phala but understanding

> the

> > results are in the hands of the Lord and not in Mine. Even when lord

> > krishna gave Bhagavad Gita sermon to Sri Arjuna, he expected him to

> > understand. One always does action expecting a result however

> results

> > are always in the hands of the Lord and we cannot govern them.

> Action

> > is what is in our hands. This is the meaning of "Karmane

> Vaadika...."

> >

> > So your incorrect understanding of Vedanta and mantra shastra shows

> > how superficially you are looking at things.

> >

> > Before having pity on me, have pity on your vakra buddhi. I wish no

> > longer to discuss this issue with you or anyone else as there is no

> > learning for anyone.

> >

> > I remain

> > Thanks and Regards

> >

> > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > I pity your mis-interpretation of my message. I never frightened

> > > anybody of doing Mantra-Japa. I just want to avoid it from

> diluting

> > > to maintain the SANCTITY, which certainly requires rules and

> > > regulations to be followed. I have already explained why and how

> a

> > > Mantra resembles a chemical equation. Our friend Renu or anybody

> for

> > > that matter can chant any mantra if got from an authoritative

> Guru

> > > but maintaining the sanctity. No work you mentioned quote any

> > > exception to this. Mantramarga is materialistic but Vedanta is

> > > metaphysical and non-materialistic.

> > >

> > > While in periods, a woman is called RAJASWALAA - who certainly

> gets

> > > RAJO - GUNA bodily and mentally, which is not so good for SATWIK

> > > Vedic Mantra Japa. Perhaps you have understood now what I exactly

> > > meant. If still you are confused, please refer to classical Vedic

> > > texts. If one is interested in Vedantic way, there is no need of

> any

> > > Mantra, tantra or yantra and just Meditation would guide him/her

> > > because there is KARMA-PHALA-TYAAGA in vedantic way unlike usual

> > > Mantras!

> > >

> > > humbly,

> > > Kad

> > >

> > > , "natalcharts_biz"

> > > <natalcharts_biz> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Kad

> > > >

> > > > The mahamritunjya mantra is for Lord Shiva and in essence the

> one

> > > who

> > > > knows its meaning discovers Moksha. Moksha isn't something to be

> > > > achieved but it is an already achieved but a forgotten Truth.

> It

> > > is a

> > > > matter to be discovered.

> > > >

> > > > In doing so, a clear mind is needed for consciousness to shine

> > > through

> > > > it. The mantra japa rules as prescribed in our holy texts are

> to

> > > focus

> > > > the mind from its diluted vision to a more concentrated vision.

> In

> > > > Vedic times, this method was used through Upasana as given in

> > > > Taitterya Upanishad.

> > > >

> > > > However, as centuries went by simple rules and instructions

> were

> > > made

> > > > a reason for fear, that chanting the name of the Lord in an

> > > improper

> > > > BUT DEVOTIONAL way shall lead to wrong consequences. This fear

> does

> > > > not help in either a clear mind or for discovering Moksha.

> > > Therefore,

> > > > by implying non existent fears, you are promoting the vikshepa

> > > (wrong

> > > > understanding).

> > > >

> > > > Sadly, you are doing so by quoting the very Vedas that our

> Rishis

> > > have

> > > > written through Knowing the Truth and helping us to discover it

> > > too.

> > > >

> > > > Your prescription of rules are correct for those who have no

> > > Devotion

> > > > and want to do mantra only to gain certain siddhis that the

> certain

> > > > mantras can bestow. Not for those, especially for the lady Renu

> who

> > > > had ample devotion to chant it for her parents long and healthy

> > > life.

> > > >

> > > > Papa and Punya are two opposites that is called the pair of

> > > opposities

> > > > in almost every Upanishad and Bhagavad Gita. These are the

> pairs

> > > that

> > > > mind involves in and therefore, has sorrows and joys, success

> and

> > > > failures and starts to judge oneself accordingly. By promoting

> the

> > > > thinking of Papa-punya when Isa Upanishad says... Isa Vasya idam

> > > > sarvam, .....shows how wrong it would to promote such ideas and

> > > > involve people's mind in the pairs of opposites.

> > > >

> > > > To you, you are doing service. In my view, as suggested above,

> you

> > > > have destroyed a very loving mind by putting fear in it. You

> have

> > > > strengthened the vikshepa and weakened the viveka... and above

> all

> > > > commited the worst "sin" possible ...i.e ... creating sin when

> > > there

> > > > was none.

> > > >

> > > > You can show my reasoning to the foremost Saints of Vedanta and

> > > > Upanishad in our country and see what they have to comment.

> > > >

> > > > Please read Vivekachoodamani, Aporkshaanubhuti, Bhagawad Gita

> > > Chapter

> > > > 2, Isavasya Upanishad, Mahavakyas, and I can give atleast 100

> other

> > > > references which do not promote your kind of thinking.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to take this opportunity to convey to Sri Rohini

> > > Ranjan

> > > > that cartoons apart, the purpose of this place is discussion and

> > > > learning. And not once, we are discussing about the Lord. We are

> > > > discussing about the wrong ideas one can get about the Lord and

> its

> > > > possible consequences. The same discussion and teaching exists

> in

> > > > every Gurukul in the country.

> > > >

> > > > I apologize to every person who has been hurt by my comments. I

> do

> > > not

> > > > wish to disrespect anyone as each of you is contained in the

> Lord.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards

> > > >

> > > > , "kadrudra"

> > > <kadrudra> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, MMM is not VasiShTa rishi's invention/discovery but is

> > > > > unauthored and was first discovered in Krishna-Yajurveda in

> the

> > > > > famous chapters of RUDRA-PRASHNA in Namaka's 10 th Anuvaaka.

> The

> > > very

> > > > > Mantra ".... YAJAAMAHE..." proves that it is from

> > > > > Yajurveda.

> > > > >

> > > > > The rules for MANTRA japa are certainly available in Vedic

> > > > > scriptures - not only in Rigveda, but also in Yajus-Saama-

> > > Atharva.

> > > > > The duty of a Mantra-vetta is definite and available in

> Vedanga

> > > and

> > > > > Upanishad too. In addition, the inventor's notes or

> > > > > description of Mantra and its parts with rules and

> regulations

> > > for

> > > > > JAPA,HOMA,DAANA involving it is also available. Besides,

> > > > > the right time to start the Japa with accurate tithi, vaara,

> > > > > nakshatra, yoga, karana, lagna, graha yoga, muhoorta is

> available

> > > > > in AtharvaNa veda, and in KALPA, a vedanga like Jyotisha. So

> > > there

> > > > > are RULES and regulations for a mantra-japa for correct

> fruits.

> > > > > Any dilution would dilute the result and sometimes may result

> in

> > > > > unexpected tastes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though I may be mistaken for pro-male attitude, I am actually

> > > not;

> > > > > especially when I say Vedic scriptures do not advise

> > > > > teaching powerful Mantra to female EXCEPT for very special

> > > purpose;

> > > > > We know examples of Kunti, Lopaamudra, Anasuya who were

> > > > > known for their mantra siddhi. A kind of most powerful

> > > Shodashakshari

> > > > > (16 syllabled Mantra) is known by Lopaamudra's name!

> > > > > SO the objection in the present case is not wrt women but the

> > > > > purpose, need and rules regarding mantra-japa; If all are

> > > > > well-achieved, there is no problem at all!

> > > > >

> > > > > yours humbly,

> > > > > KAD

> > > > >

> > > > > , "arun"

> > > <savitarcyber>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Dhruv

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The mantras of the Rig-Veda (Mrityunjaya mantra of

> Vasishtha

> > > > > Maharishi

> > > > > > is one of them) are above any defect of time and space.

> There

> > > are no

> > > > > > restrictions imposed on chanting these mantras in the Rig-

> Veda.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Arun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear ARun,

> > > > > > > I am sorry i did not grasp what ur trying to say here.

> > > > > > > Perhaps my poor knowledge of english.. but can u explain

> > > what you

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > saying?

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "arun"

> > > > > <savitarcyber>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Dhruv,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you tell me where in the Rig Veda is it said that

> > > Women

> > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > chant during mensus? The Mantras of the Rig-Veda are

> said

> > > to

> > > > > above all

> > > > > > > > defect. Now the Mritunjaya mantra of Vasishtha

> Maharishi

> > > is in

> > > > > the Rig

> > > > > > > > -Veda and therefore above defect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > arun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "dhruv_gs"

> > > > > <dhruv_gs>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Arun,

> > > > > > > > > this is a good story that uve told but where in this

> > > story is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > justification of allowing chanting during periods?

> > > > > > > > > If ur goignt o chant a mantra written by some one u

> have

> > > to

> > > > > > follow the

> > > > > > > > > procedure too.

> > > > > > > > > Its better to be safe than sorry.. that goes for

> > > everything

> > > > > > > > > REgards

> > > > > > > > > Dhruv

> > > > > > > > >

April 19, 2005

Hi Satish,

Whether other two fingers (ring and little) should be folded (towards

palm) or stretched out ?

Regards,

Raghu.

, "rsatish1942"

<rsatish1942> wrote:

>

> Ms Sreelatha,

>

> Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

> suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your chanting.

>

> For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb press

the

> middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

> approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done as per

> convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

> technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras for

> different problems,but detox mudra is good,

>

> With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Satish

>

, "V. Sreelatha"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power of

this

> > holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in pain. I

> > automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or someone

I

> > love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this in

bed,

> > focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his hand

> raised

> > in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite the

> > mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and continued to

> > meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while I went

> > about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted,

> specified

> > that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its intensity, and

> > takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that

> morning, I

> > started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was completely

> back

> > to normal.

> >

> > This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in my

mind

> > that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra, anytime and

> > anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

> humility,

> > devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before bathing,

> but

> > His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a mother

> picks

> > up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord will

take

> > me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings, not

> because I

> > deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

> > experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself and for

my

> > loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my loved

> ones

> > everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell. And this

> is

> > not the only such mantra either - I've known people that achieve

> > health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram, Hanuman

> > Chalisa etc.

> >

> > -Sreelatha

April 20, 2005

Dear Raghu,

With the thumb engaging the middle and ring fingers,two fingers

balance are index and little finger both of which

should be kept straight.The palms should be resting on the thighs or

chair facing the ceiling in a receiving mode.breadth normal.total

period 45 min approx .Meditative state helps.

If you are a Reiki practioner,use the symbols,before commencing.or

alternatively rub your palms to generate energy for few secs.

Trust this clarifies.

God Bless!

Satish

, "raghuvenkataj"

<raghuvenkataj> wrote:

>

> Hi Satish,

>

> Whether other two fingers (ring and little) should be folded

(towards

> palm) or stretched out ?

>

> Regards,

> Raghu.

>

> , "rsatish1942"

> <rsatish1942> wrote:

> >

> > Ms Sreelatha,

> >

> > Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

> > suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your chanting.

> >

> > For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb press

> the

> > middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

> > approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done as

per

> > convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

> > technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras for

> > different problems,but detox mudra is good,

> >

> > With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power of

> this

> > > holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in pain. I

> > > automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or

someone

> I

> > > love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this in

> bed,

> > > focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his hand

> > raised

> > > in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite the

> > > mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and continued

to

> > > meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while I

went

> > > about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted,

> > specified

> > > that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its intensity,

and

> > > takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that

> > morning, I

> > > started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was

completely

> > back

> > > to normal.

> > >

> > > This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in my

> mind

> > > that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra, anytime

and

> > > anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

> > humility,

> > > devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before

bathing,

> > but

> > > His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a mother

> > picks

> > > up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord will

> take

> > > me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings, not

> > because I

> > > deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

> > > experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself and

for

> my

> > > loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my

loved

> > ones

> > > everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell. And

this

> > is

> > > not the only such mantra either - I've known people that

achieve

> > > health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram,

Hanuman

> > > Chalisa etc.

> > >

> > > -Sreelatha

April 20, 2005

Dear Satish,

Thank you very much.

Is there a mudra to manage anxiety/negative thoughts.

Regards,

Raghu.

, "rsatish1942"

<rsatish1942> wrote:

>

> Dear Raghu,

>

> With the thumb engaging the middle and ring fingers,two fingers

> balance are index and little finger both of which

> should be kept straight.The palms should be resting on the thighs

or

> chair facing the ceiling in a receiving mode.breadth normal.total

> period 45 min approx .Meditative state helps.

> If you are a Reiki practioner,use the symbols,before commencing.or

> alternatively rub your palms to generate energy for few secs.

>

> Trust this clarifies.

>

> God Bless!

>

> Satish

>

> , "raghuvenkataj"

> <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Satish,

> >

> > Whether other two fingers (ring and little) should be folded

> (towards

> > palm) or stretched out ?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> > , "rsatish1942"

> > <rsatish1942> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ms Sreelatha,

> > >

> > > Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

> > > suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your

chanting.

> > >

> > > For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb

press

> > the

> > > middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

> > > approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done as

> per

> > > convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

> > > technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras for

> > > different problems,but detox mudra is good,

> > >

> > > With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power of

> > this

> > > > holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in pain. I

> > > > automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or

> someone

> > I

> > > > love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this in

> > bed,

> > > > focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his hand

> > > raised

> > > > in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite

the

> > > > mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and

continued

> to

> > > > meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while I

> went

> > > > about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted,

> > > specified

> > > > that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its intensity,

> and

> > > > takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that

> > > morning, I

> > > > started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was

> completely

> > > back

> > > > to normal.

> > > >

> > > > This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in my

> > mind

> > > > that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra, anytime

> and

> > > > anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

> > > humility,

> > > > devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before

> bathing,

> > > but

> > > > His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a mother

> > > picks

> > > > up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord will

> > take

> > > > me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings, not

> > > because I

> > > > deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

> > > > experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself and

> for

> > my

> > > > loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my

> loved

> > > ones

> > > > everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell. And

> this

> > > is

> > > > not the only such mantra either - I've known people that

> achieve

> > > > health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram,

> Hanuman

> > > > Chalisa etc.

> > > >

> > > > -Sreelatha

April 20, 2005

Dear Raghu,

There are many things which can be done to control negative thoughts

which affect oneself.

If could give your background, then we can approach the issue in a

holistic way.My knowledge and experience in energy healing is

available to any who genuinely desire help.

In the meantime please practice the simplest mudra. Thumb pressing

th tip of index finger,and taking breadth slowly,observing the flow

of air thro the nostrils.Eyes closed.Have nice soft music in sitar

or violin to eliminate background /outside noise.15 to 20 min daily

first thing on the morning is ideal.Within 2 weeks there will be a

positive change.

Pls try it out ,you will enjoy the experience,it will become an

addiction,for your good.

God Bless!

Satish

-- In , "raghuvenkataj"

<raghuvenkataj> wrote:

>

> Dear Satish,

>

> Thank you very much.

>

> Is there a mudra to manage anxiety/negative thoughts.

>

> Regards,

> Raghu.

>

> , "rsatish1942"

> <rsatish1942> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raghu,

> >

> > With the thumb engaging the middle and ring fingers,two fingers

> > balance are index and little finger both of which

> > should be kept straight.The palms should be resting on the

thighs

> or

> > chair facing the ceiling in a receiving mode.breadth

normal.total

> > period 45 min approx .Meditative state helps.

> > If you are a Reiki practioner,use the symbols,before

commencing.or

> > alternatively rub your palms to generate energy for few secs.

> >

> > Trust this clarifies.

> >

> > God Bless!

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > , "raghuvenkataj"

> > <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Satish,

> > >

> > > Whether other two fingers (ring and little) should be folded

> > (towards

> > > palm) or stretched out ?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Raghu.

> > >

> > > , "rsatish1942"

> > > <rsatish1942> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ms Sreelatha,

> > > >

> > > > Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

> > > > suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your

> chanting.

> > > >

> > > > For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb

> press

> > > the

> > > > middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

> > > > approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done

as

> > per

> > > > convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

> > > > technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras for

> > > > different problems,but detox mudra is good,

> > > >

> > > > With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the power

of

> > > this

> > > > > holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in

pain. I

> > > > > automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or

> > someone

> > > I

> > > > > love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite this

in

> > > bed,

> > > > > focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his

hand

> > > > raised

> > > > > in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to recite

> the

> > > > > mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and

> continued

> > to

> > > > > meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while

I

> > went

> > > > > about my daily chores. The reference material I consulted,

> > > > specified

> > > > > that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its

intensity,

> > and

> > > > > takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM that

> > > > morning, I

> > > > > started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was

> > completely

> > > > back

> > > > > to normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt in

my

> > > mind

> > > > > that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra,

anytime

> > and

> > > > > anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

> > > > humility,

> > > > > devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before

> > bathing,

> > > > but

> > > > > His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a

mother

> > > > picks

> > > > > up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord

will

> > > take

> > > > > me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings,

not

> > > > because I

> > > > > deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us. I've

> > > > > experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself

and

> > for

> > > my

> > > > > loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my

> > loved

> > > > ones

> > > > > everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell.

And

> > this

> > > > is

> > > > > not the only such mantra either - I've known people that

> > achieve

> > > > > health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram,

> > Hanuman

> > > > > Chalisa etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Sreelatha

April 20, 2005

Dear Satish,

Thanks a lot ! I will practice for 2 weeks and give you a feedback.

I will send my background to your email-id.

Regards,

Raghu.

, "rsatish1942"

<rsatish1942> wrote:

>

> Dear Raghu,

> There are many things which can be done to control negative

thoughts

> which affect oneself.

> If could give your background, then we can approach the issue in a

> holistic way.My knowledge and experience in energy healing is

> available to any who genuinely desire help.

>

> In the meantime please practice the simplest mudra. Thumb pressing

> th tip of index finger,and taking breadth slowly,observing the flow

> of air thro the nostrils.Eyes closed.Have nice soft music in sitar

> or violin to eliminate background /outside noise.15 to 20 min daily

> first thing on the morning is ideal.Within 2 weeks there will be a

> positive change.

>

> Pls try it out ,you will enjoy the experience,it will become an

> addiction,for your good.

>

> God Bless!

>

> Satish

>

> -- In , "raghuvenkataj"

> <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> > Thank you very much.

> >

> > Is there a mudra to manage anxiety/negative thoughts.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> > , "rsatish1942"

> > <rsatish1942> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raghu,

> > >

> > > With the thumb engaging the middle and ring fingers,two fingers

> > > balance are index and little finger both of which

> > > should be kept straight.The palms should be resting on the

> thighs

> > or

> > > chair facing the ceiling in a receiving mode.breadth

> normal.total

> > > period 45 min approx .Meditative state helps.

> > > If you are a Reiki practioner,use the symbols,before

> commencing.or

> > > alternatively rub your palms to generate energy for few secs.

> > >

> > > Trust this clarifies.

> > >

> > > God Bless!

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > > , "raghuvenkataj"

> > > <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Satish,

> > > >

> > > > Whether other two fingers (ring and little) should be folded

> > > (towards

> > > > palm) or stretched out ?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Raghu.

> > > >

> > > > , "rsatish1942"

> > > > <rsatish1942> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ms Sreelatha,

> > > > >

> > > > > Very happy to read benefits of Mrutunjaya mantra.I have a

> > > > > suggestion,if you can add Mudra therapy along with your

> > chanting.

> > > > >

> > > > > For detox of system, there is a mudra.With thetip of thumb

> > press

> > > > the

> > > > > middle and ring fingers tips,for a total period of 45 min

> > > > > approx,spread over 1 to 3 sessions (15min).This can be done

> as

> > > per

> > > > > convenience.Use the creative visualisation meditative

> > > > > technique,which you are doing.There are different mudras

for

> > > > > different problems,but detox mudra is good,

> > > > >

> > > > > With gods grace things will work out beautifully.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just a week or so back, I experienced first-hand the

power

> of

> > > > this

> > > > > > holy mantram. I woke up in the middle of the night in

> pain. I

> > > > > > automatically start to recite this mantra whenever I, or

> > > someone

> > > > I

> > > > > > love, is not well, and accordingly, started to recite

this

> in

> > > > bed,

> > > > > > focusing on the smiling Lord standing above me, with his

> hand

> > > > > raised

> > > > > > in benediction. Everytime I woke up, I continued to

recite

> > the

> > > > > > mantra. In the morning I listened to the Rudram, and

> > continued

> > > to

> > > > > > meditate on the maha mrutyunjaya mantra afterwards, while

> I

> > > went

> > > > > > about my daily chores. The reference material I

consulted,

> > > > > specified

> > > > > > that the illness typically lasts 3 days in all its

> intensity,

> > > and

> > > > > > takes 2 weeks to get completely better. By about 11AM

that

> > > > > morning, I

> > > > > > started to feel a whole lot better, and by 2PM, I was

> > > completely

> > > > > back

> > > > > > to normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This may be a very small example, but there is no doubt

in

> my

> > > > mind

> > > > > > that chanting the name of the Divine with any mantra,

> anytime

> > > and

> > > > > > anywhere will bring only good to the person, if done with

> > > > > humility,

> > > > > > devotion and trust. My body was obviously impure before

> > > bathing,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > His compassion goes far beyond that. I trust that as a

> mother

> > > > > picks

> > > > > > up her dirty child and washes him off with love, my Lord

> will

> > > > take

> > > > > > me, with all my faults, and remove all my shortcomings,

> not

> > > > > because I

> > > > > > deserve that, but because I am His, as are all of us.

I've

> > > > > > experienced the healing power of this mantra for myself

> and

> > > for

> > > > my

> > > > > > loved ones many times. Indeed, I chant this mantra for my

> > > loved

> > > > > ones

> > > > > > everyday, increasing to 108 times when anyone is unwell.

> And

> > > this

> > > > > is

> > > > > > not the only such mantra either - I've known people that

> > > achieve

> > > > > > health with Aditya Hrudayam, Raama Aapadodharaka mantram,

> > > Hanuman

> > > > > > Chalisa etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Sreelatha

November 22, 2013

You know what, you all need a REALITY CHECK !!

The lady wants to pray to god in her way, she is not bad or evil.

If her heart is focussed in her prays then it should not matter that she is having a period.

The prayer connects with her soul. Her body is there only to support her soul.

At the end of the day, by her saying the mantra, if it creates peace in her mind and some reassurance then what is the problem ?

By reciting the mantra, at least she is not hurting someone, or saying anything bad.

......... Just leave it at that................

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