2-Shripal, Serious problems & Jyotish research.inc. nature of malefics.......> Mark Kincaid 4/4

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Jai Jinendra Mark,

 

1)Sometimes even if you know all such things,still you

get away doing wrong in the end.Every time when Moon

is in scorpio or New Moon time I feel very hurted.too

much emotions and feels like I have fogot to smile.

 

 

Dear Shripal:

 

See below:

 

 

 

Shripal <d_shripal

 

Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:16:37 -0700 (PDT)

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Jai Jinendra Mark,

 

1)Sometimes even if you know all such things,still you

get away doing wrong in the end.Every time when Moon

is in scorpio or New Moon time I feel very hurted.too

much emotions and feels like I have fogot to smile.

 

I know what you mean, but each step that you take to strengthen your Moon,

eventually will create a wonderful improvement.

 

If there's anything I've learned in all these years, watching the transits,

for ex.

it's that the Moon depends upon these two cycles...

 

I've learned to strive to be more in-tune with these 2 basic cycles of rest

and activity.

 

As the Moon's getting smaller, I've learned to rest more, and not feel so

guilty about it!

 

This cycle, along with Saturn has taught me the great importance of the

entire cycle

of rest...

 

At every moment, and at every stage in life, we're either resting or acting.

 

We step ahead, but it was our first step where we planeted our other foot,

that really,

is the key to the success of our step forward.....

 

Like that, each step in life depends upon the previous step.

 

And, then, we plant and rest our previously moving foot, and our other foot,

springs forth.

 

Rest & activity....

 

Moon is all about resting and activing regularly....

 

90-95% of all problems, in life, I believe are related to this particular

aspect of life...

 

Moon teaches us also where to put attention.

 

We also learn through the Moon, the importance of our emotional natures.

 

People say all the time, 'drat, I knew that'....

 

Quite often people have a glimmer or a flash of intuition or right

action....and we just

ignore it...

 

Then, later we realize,...'wow, I knew it'....

 

The more we learn to trust that innocent, spontaneously right, emotional

part of us,

the better!

 

 

Finally regular and advanced progress in meditation will improve the very

Moon's inside of us,

too!

 

1)Sometimes even if you know all such things,still you

get away doing wrong in the end.Every time when Moon

is in scorpio or New Moon time I feel very hurted.too

much emotions and feels like I have fogot to smile.

 

This just shows Jyotish or Astrological knowingness is not enough to be just

cerebral, or

intellectual.

 

Knowingness really needs to be more primal.

 

As we truely know something, then, the real wisdom of that knowing, begins

to be experienced by us.

 

Eventually you'll notice feeling more immune or not so vulnerable to the

Moon's movements.

 

I felt the same way, and in fact it took a few years....

 

But, each day, each month, month after month, I watched the Moon,....

 

and then, very profoundly, I began to notice that I was starting to feel

stronger, emotionally....

 

And that just encouraged me to continue.....

 

But

slowly I am learning to keep myself like I feel on

Moon in taurus with full of spirit and kid like

mischief.

so till 9th April goes I will try to do that.

 

2)As you asked about I am interested in investment.I

am not sure about what you are trying to ask.But yes I

am interested in stock a number game,It intimates me a

lot and that's why I like to roll money over there

with my analysis ability and intuition power.But as I

have sen lots fo people ultimatley loosing over

there,that is why I am trying to be more cautious in

investing in stocks.

 

I can see where that interest in investments comes from, according to your

chart.

 

Mercury in the 5th house of investments, has one good side.... It's the 9th

house lord

in the 5th which is very good. However, it's also the 12th house lord, so

this represents

some lessons of 'loss' coming through Mercury, and investments...

 

However, all your planets in the 11th house fully aspecting the 5th house,

is also indicative

of interest in investments....

 

Especially Saturn because it rules the 5th house, and is looking back at

itself...

 

I had a client who had a virgo rising and her Saturn also was in her 11th

house, and aspecting

it's own house, in the 5th,...

 

She did have one child in her life, though only one....and that child was

kind of sickly, for awhile.

 

So, as you say, careful is good!.

 

 

 

 

 

3)As you told Saturn close to Jupiter cretes a

tension,So how to resolve that,it should not happen,

apportunity comes and still I am silence and keping

patience.I should be able to strike at a right time

and on spot.

 

You've said it well.

 

We need the ability to do, and not do, at the same time.

 

This is what meditation strives for and accomplishes...

 

The human nervous system has the ability to do, and not-do, at the same very

time....

 

However, when Saturn's weak, or being too malefic it represents quite often

that this balance

between doing and non-doing, is not strong enough.

 

We learn to increase our non-doing, by strengthening Saturn....

and

we learn to strengthen our doing by strengthening our Mars.

 

I don't think your Mars needs any strengthening!

hehehe

 

 

 

 

 

4)You always talked about removing a Saturn grief.but

I never heards about removing a Saturn,Mars,Jupiter

and Rahu Conjuct together grief.

 

I know what you mean.

 

I am saying this

because,Just removing Saturn grief would be much

different from having too much intensity at one place

and removing those.Because we have altogether a

different dish right know.One another influencing

planets energy need to be channelise with what they

want with that much amount of power.What do say about

it.

 

 

Your many planets in Leo, are very similar to all my planets in Leo.

 

I had the same situation though the symbolisms of the different planets is

uniquely different.

 

I'll tell you my experience and maybe that'll help you with yours....

 

#1, Jyotish told me that the Sun likes being in Leo, but my other planets,

not!

 

Jyotish even provided me with some understanding of that.

 

Mercury in Leo, is no good, because it represets a too rigid kind of

intellect.

 

Venus is also no good because Venus/leo, represents too often a kind of

selfishness regarding

gaining and receiving....

 

So, I thought, okay, I can learn to be less rigid. I'm not attached to

being that way.

 

I dont' have to be that way. As I took this angle, I'd find myself in

situations, and where my first reaction would be to say something, strong,

or even prideful, very leoish, I realized...

then, I realized...

 

ahhhh, this very thing is the thing I need to change...

 

And I change it. I relaxed, let myself me less opinionated.... and opened

myself up, to listening more, and not being soo pushy about my views....

 

All that helped emmensely....

and as far as Venus was concerned,...where I'd normally think of giving,

after only thinking...

"mmmmm, I wonder what they're going to give back to me...."

 

Jyotish helped me realize that giving is for just that,....giving...

 

Jyotish and Venus, especially taught me the purpose and role of learning how

to give, unconditionally.

 

My Guru even has said: "you don't have control over the fruits of your

action. Once you've performed an action, the results will be automatic, and

inevitable. You only have control, therefore, over the initial action.

Focus on that giving, and the result will be maximum."

 

I loved that expression because it helped me realize, if I wanted more,

especially related to the heart, love and relationships, I should focus on

giving more!

 

And that's what I did, and immediately found it stirred and changed that

more rigid Venus/Leo, part.

 

So, reflect on the inherent meanings of each of your planets in Leo.

 

What do they mean?

What do they represent?

 

Your inner voice will tell you.

 

 

In general, Leo represent 'I', or self-centeredness.

 

The fact that the Sun is so happy there, indicates that we're all supposed

to have a certain amount of self-centeredness.

 

"All love is for the Self".... it's been said.

 

However, some planets there, may represent some sort of imbalance in that

Leoness.

 

Jupiter in Leo, I don't think is too bad.

 

Jupiter/Leo is often described as generous, paternal, and giving...

 

However, Saturn in Leo, is sometimes described as lessons, from having been

too Leoish, in the past. Maybe you were too self-centered, or too

giving.....

 

In either case, the imbalance of Leo, is goings on, now.

 

So, Saturn represents the lesson of too much Leo.

 

So, try this....

 

 

Think more about the other person.

 

Instead of focusing on yourself, your own views, think of the other, for

awhile.

 

Pretend for a moment that it will be better for you, to think of 'them' for

awhile...

 

Listen more, and follow others lead for awhile.....and see if that doesn't

help....

 

 

 

 

 

You are dealing with Saturn and Moon together isn't

it.

 

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Hi Mark,

>

> Thanks for your valuable time and explanantion.

> YES I AM VERY MUCH interested in breaking all the

> shackles in my life with enthusiasam and

> confidence,which are creating obstrutions towards a

> path of my SUCCESS.

>

> Dear Shripal:

>

> Please see below:

>

>

>

> Shripal <d_shripal

> JoeTischResearchProject

> Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:33:55 -0700 (PDT)

> JoeTischResearchProject

> Cc: Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

> [JoeTischResearchProject] 2-Mark, Re:

> Seriuos problem I am facing

> (Career)--Very Very Very Urgent > Mark Kincaid

>

>

> Hi MArk,

>

> Thanks for your valuable time and explanantion.

> YES I AM VERY MUCH interested in breaking all the

> shackles in my life with enthusiasam and

> confidence,which are creating a obstrutions towards

> a

> path of my SUCCESS.

>

> Yes you are very much right as my Moon and Sun are

> together,I sometimes get too emotional with lots of

> things in my Life,especially with my work.I feel the

> things too much and persons also.

>

>

> This is a very good insight for you, to understand.

>

> Because from now, onwards, whenever you notice a

> strong emotional

> sensitivity,

> then you can remember this part of your chart, and

> instead,...

>

> of reacting as you have, you can adjust differently,

> and instead strengthen

> your Moon!

>

> One of the things I've noticed through the Moon's

> transformations, is how

> really important

> it is to nourish ourselves, emotionally.

>

> Even just paying more attention to one's feelings,

> listening to oneself, and

> especially,

> following one's intutions...

>

> all these will strengthen your Moon!

>

> Also, pay more attention to the Moon's cycle.

>

> Right now, the Moon's entering the last quarter of

> it's Waning cycle, (New

> Moon on 4/8th)

> so, organize yourself, so you can rest more during

> this week.

>

> Don't plan important events, projects, and instead

> pretend that you're on

> vacation.

>

> We may have to work, periodically, during the last

> stages of the New Moon,

> however, we can

> have in mind, not to stain and get as much rest,

> even emphasizing rest,

> helps!

>

>

>

> Yes you are also right,might be saturn in enemy

> house

> is my karma,which is creating a obstacles in my

> life.But jupiter and Mars are giving me a emmence

> self-confidence,fighting spirit and not to loose at

> any time.

>

> I don't think it's just Saturn's presence in that

> sign, that's the main

> problem.

>

> I think it's Saturn presence so close to especially

> important Jupiter, that

> represents the

> most important inner tension, you need to unravel.

>

> I think this is especially because Jupiter & Saturn

> are so different in

> their nature's and

> functions.

>

> Though I've had a lot of success in helping people

> understand how to improve

> this!

>

>

> that emotionality that I am going through is for a

> time being,But afterwards I really feel good

> about,for

> what I don't know,May be because I spoke what I

> wanted

> and shown confidence that I have against all odds

> etc

> etc.But emotionality is not for a long.Reason is

> daily

> prayers or in other word meditation.

>

> Yes, Meditation can have a powerful effect on

> ourselves emotionally.

>

> Also, listening to your feelings and paying more

> attention to them, and

> honoring the

> messages and feedbacks that your feelings are trying

> to express;

> all these will strengthen your Moon!

>

>

> Previously I was more of a guy who feels like lost

> his

> path.But Since last 1-2 years,After end of Saturn

> dasa,I have developed too much confidence and

> fighting

> spirit.

>

> As 4 palnets in house of Labha,When ever I invest in

> shares or other things ,till know I have come with

> profits.I ma thinking of increasing my investment

> amount.Should I do this,I want 2nd opinion.

>

> The biggest challenge to too much energy in any

> sign, is that that

> intensity, itself, is part

> of the real problem.

>

> It's been true in my case so I have no doubt you'll

> find it the same.

>

> Mars & Jupiter does give you the good ability to go

> for what you want.

>

> But, Saturn there, interferes with the timings and

> ultimate fulfillments of

> those same desire.

>

> Investments are a different Astrological situation.

>

> I think of investments as being more involved with

> the 12th house, then the

> 11th....

>

> 11th is where money comes to us,...but 12th house,

> is where we spend,

> expenditures,....

> to either spend money, or invest....

>

> You have no planets in the 12th, and the lord of the

> 12th, Mercury is in the

> 5th house of

> investments....

>

> But, Mercury is still, the lord of the house of

> loss, so I'd be a little

> cautious, in your investings,

> especially now, when Mercury's debilitated,

> retrograde and combust, all at

> the same time!

>

> Have you always been interested in investments?

>

>

>

>

> I want to improve myself against all Odd,just show

> me

> a path I will analyse it and do it.

>

> The 'path' that Jyotish has taught me, is that our

> lives are flowing along

> the paths, of our charts!

>

> However, that path, is not either well understood by

> us, or we're sabotaging

> ourselves, often, in the areas of our malefics,...

> doing things

> spontaneously that are not healthy for ourselves,

> especially because we don't realize this!

>

> In Vedic science this habit of doing what's not

> right for ourselves, is

> called Pragya Parads.

>

> Pragya parads, means 'mistake of intellect', which

> are the real source of

> our obsessions, imbalances, compulsions and

> therefore all our problems and

> challenges.

>

> The real problem is we spontaneously desire to do

> and think in certain ways,

> (where our

> malefics are), and this literally causes us, our

> frustrations.

>

> This is especially disturbing because where we have

> our malefically

> structured thought patterns, we think we're doing

> the right thing.

>

> But, that's the definition of pragya parad, doing

> that which is not right

> for us, in spite of ourselves!

>

> The malefics in our charts, serve as good candidates

> for our illusions, and

> delusions,... so as we contemplate into the nature

> of these, malefic

> configurations, we should be thinking, how can

> I improve this way in which I think!

>

>

> That, my friend, is the nature of the promise of the

> 'path' of Jyotish for

> each one of us!

>

> We're walking it already.

>

> Now, however, we can bring greater awareness and

> insight, to unravel those

> very things that we were born to discover.

>

> Jyotish, also, says us months and years! of

> experimenting, so that we can

> gain insight into this phenomena, much earlier and

> save ourselves much

> grief!

>

>

> ciao

>

>

>

> Mark Kincaid...

>

>

> ps...for those of you, just joining us, go to my

> on Jyotish

> research:

>

>

JoeTischResearchProject/

>

> to join.

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

>

> > Dear Shripal:

> >

> > See below:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > My birth Details:

> > DOB:16th March 1980

> > Plac:Rajkot,INDIA

> > Time:21:00 hrs.

> >

> > Since last one months what I am not able to

> > understand

> > I don't know.May be itis my Karma.

> >

> > You mean the last few months?

> >

> >

> > I am keeping my patience,But I guess too much is

> > happening because of that.There is no fight with

> my

> > colleague at work.But I think he is betraying me

> and

> > telling all wrong things to Boss,pointing finger

> on

> > me

> > by saying that I am not taking things too

> seriously,

> > so he cannot give responsibilty to me.

> >

> > I think the best thing I've experienced from

> > Jyotish, is how the outer, is

> > some kind

> > of reflection about the inner.

> >

> > Let's first talk about your-self.

> >

> > Understanding other's karmas, is better understand

> > looking at their charts,

> > though

> > it is of course, possible to understand 'why' ....

> >

> > their influences are coming to us, due to the

> dasas,

> > transits we're going

> > through

> > and the qualities of our charts.

> >

> > Tension with your 'house' of gain, or how you make

> > money is not too

> > surprising,

> > being that Mars is there in the llth...

> >

> >

> >

> > I told my Boss,whenever he goes on leave I handle

> > all

> > things and when he is present,why not I seat whole

> > thing and let him monitor that and you will also

> > know

> > I will be able to do it or not.

> >

> > My Boss tells me,you need to go deep deep and deep

> > inside your task.I said OK,But tell him to atleast

> > give me and monitor it being side to me.

> >

> > I think he is not able to tell him(my colleague)

> > about

> > all this and rather my boss starts a story about

> you

> > did a work well,we have been assesing you and need

> > to

> > go more deep.And sort out it with your colleague

> > about

> > this.

> >

> > We can try and understand how our life

> experiences,

> > even betrayal,

> > and challenges are due to our planets....

> >

> > Mars & Saturn, both, in your 11th house, and Mars

> > being the lord of your

> > 7th house, of business partners, in the 11th....

> >

> > can reflect this karma.

> >

> > Is my Boss scared of him,But I am not.I am a kind

> of

> > a

> > guy whom you allot a work as much you want and I

> > will

> > finish it of and leave for home,I am not a person

> > who

> > says all the time yes sir,yes sir,happy sir.Just

> do

> > your work and that's it.

> >

> > We all, should understand how to re-act to events

> > and situations at work,

> > as in this example.

> >

> > However, you can also deal with these events as

> pure

> > reflections of

> > yourSelf, too.

> >

> > We are in reality not having any fights,But in

> > background some mischief against me is going on

> and

> > I

> > can smell it.

> >

> > I find it helpful to understand that all 'our'

> > karmas, and things that

> > happen to us,

> > are a product of 'our' actions...

> >

> > however, also, it's important that we don't just

> > accept or act like door

> > mats.

> >

> > In your case, Mars, fights and mischief, can be

> > coming back to you,...

> >

> > but the best thing you can do, is be honest, and

> > strive to continue doing

> > the best thing

> > possible.

> >

> > Also, because of your Mars with your Jupiter, I

> > wouldn't be surprised if you

> > had some good

> > karma or opportunity, to strive for what is right.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Even in my spare time if I don't timepass,rather

> > learn

> > astrology or new professional thing,that also they

> > are

> > having problem.They want me to neel down and say

> yes

> > sir,happy sir,which I cannot in 1000 years.I mind

> > with

> > my own business.

> >

> > One of the best things I've learned from Jyotish,

> is

> > to look at my-self from

> > the point

> > of view of my chart...

> >

> > I remember when I was having many problems in my

> > career, Mars in Cancer, in

> > my 10th house.

> >

> > I'd find myself being criticized early on, for

> this

> > or that, even my

> > employees for not doing a better job.

> >

> > It took me a while to realize that what I was

> > experiencing was really just

> > nature's feedback,

> > to me!

> >

> >

> >

> > So what trouble I am facing,and this is not first

> > time

> > previously too I have gone through such a

> > situation.Reason I am not able to find.What

> palnets

> > is

> > creating a trouble for me.

> >

> > Yes, this is the best question.

> >

> > Not to blame them, but to see, which planets might

> > be reflecting this

> > 'karma'.

> >

> > I listen to the descriptions of what people are

> > going through

> >

> > And Jyotish has taught me how to identify the

> > houses, planets and chart

> > configurations

> > that might be reflective of those challenges.

> >

> > I find it not too surprising that in over 18 years

> > of Jyotish, now, I have

> > continued finding

> > malefic situations for each of the unhappy human

> > challenges and experiences.

> >

> > For you, difficulties with career, and work,

> conjure

> > up these houses...

> >

> > 10th house, of course...

> > 7th house, because it represents partnerships...

> > and even 11th house, because it's how we gain,

> ....

> > which is an intimate

> > aspect of our career,

> > karma...

> >

> > finally, even 6th house, which is often called the

> > house of 'daily work', I

> > look at.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Because of such a situation is again raised I am

> > thinking of changing,because as they have pointed

> a

> > finger on me so they are not going to promote me

> > too,it is better to change.

> >

> > Yes, I hear you! In my case, my first reaction

> was

> > these people must be

> > the problem, but

> > one year, during a specific month I then noticed

> > that not only was 1 person,

> > criticizing me,

> > but then, a second and finally a third person,

> came

> > down on me at the same

> > time.

> >

> > Then, I got it!

> >

> > These 3 people can't be a part of a vast

> conspiracy.

> >

> > I"m sure they don't even know each other, hehe.

> >

> > Then, I realized that 'I', should start focusing

> on

> > how I can improve

> > myself.

> >

> > Later, too, when I realized how Jyotish so

> > profoundly explains the exact

> > planetary reasons

> > why we go through challenges, that really

> confirmed

> > for me,

> > how and where, I needed to change!

> >

> > I am keeping my

> > patience,But for how long I don't know.

> >

> > Grasping how certain malefics in your chart, are

> > possibly really the reasons

> > why you're going through what you're going

> > through...

> >

> > because if you can find those malefic reasons...

> >

> > Then, you can learn to focus on improving those

> same

> > malefic planets,

> > within,....

> > and as you do this...

> >

> > then, all manners of problems on the

> > outside,....will be found, gone!

> >

> >

> >

> > God help me to

> > change my Job and get me somewhere were things are

> > more professional and assesment are no basis of

> work

> > and not on doing yes sir,yes sir etc etc.

> >

> > First accept that it isn't the job, necessarily,

> and

> > it's really just our

> > charts,

> > and our karmas that we're really facing...

> >

> >

> > Please show me a direction in this case and help

> me

> > out in resolving this issue, as I treat you as one

> > of

> > my gaurdian.Astrologically and professionally Both

> I

> > want your opinion.

> >

> > Okay, let's look at this situation.

> >

> > You're experiencing some Marish, fightings, and

> > mischief, even possibly

> > resentment,

> > and possibly betrayal, at work...

> >

> > So, let's see where this is coming from.

> >

> > Mars with your very good Jupiter in your 11th, and

> > even

> > Saturn there with your Jupiter, too, is probably

> the

> > main reason.

> >

> > Mars also rules your house of partnerships, and

> yet,

> > Venus is in your 7th

> > house.

> >

> >

> >

> > When will I able to change Job and relationship

> with

> > a

> > person I am working and Boss is going to change or

> I

> > have to quit.

> >

> > Even before you move on, I'd suggest you try some

> > Astrological inner

> > remedies, and let's

> > see if that doesn't help!

> >

> > If yours was my chart, I'd focus on 2 things...

> >

> > #1, Improving Saturn whic is in the 11th and Mars

> > too also there with

> > Jupiter

> >

> > #2, I'd also focus on your Moon, because it's the

> > primary planet of your

> > house of career!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Love is the beauty of the soul

> >

> > Okay, let's start first with the Moon.

> >

> > Moon rules your house of Career.

> >

> > Do you notice that you get your feelings hurt

> easily

> > at work?

> >

> > This is because you were born on a New Moon, as

> your

> > Moon is in the same

> > house as your Sun!

> >

> > This means you're meant to strengthen, and grow,

> > like a Waxing Moon, in the

> > fullness, of

> > your Moon!

> >

> > As you do this, paying more attention to how you

> > feeling and especially

> > nurtureing yourself, emotionally, this will have

> an

> > immediate, direct

> > influence upon your career.

> >

> > I went through a similar experience, because like

> > you, I have a Libra

> > rising.

> >

> > I discovered that my Moon, was in my 12th and with

> > Saturn....

> > Also, my Moon, was only 1 house away from my Sun,

> > which was in my 11th

> > house.

> >

> >

> >

> > Over time, as I discovered how to both strengthen

> > and expand my Moon, and

> > diminish the negative influences of Saturn....

> >

> > I noticed direct and immediate influences upon my

> > career!

> >

> > I found myself, eliminating the darkness, through

> > bringing the light...

> > and as I did, this...

> >

> > all the problems and challenges I had previously

> > experienced.... became

> > less,...

> >

> > and now, for awhile, don't even pop up!

> >

> >

> > So, if you'd like, we can take this area as the

> > source of your project.

> >

> > We can seek to improve your situation at work, by

> > figuring out how to

> > improve your chart!

> >

> >

> > Are you interested?

> >

> >

> > Keep describing to me, the subtleties of what's

> > happening at work, and

> > especially how you feel as you go through stuff.

> >

> > We should find the lessons, there, are both

> > expressions of your chart, but

> > also your dasas and even transits...

> >

> >

> > take care

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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