Kuja dosha ? and what is the deep Astrol.

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Dear All,

Kuja Dosha is a special topic under 'astro-genetics' and

perhaps 'DOSHA' here gets importance because of wedlock.

Anyway, before concluding anything about DOSHA, one must judge

rightly whether it is DOSHA or BALA(strength)! Just because,

some planet is in some position, one can not conclude matters so

easily; neither in bhavas too. All dicta speak of only

'succeptibility' and not judgement. I can show you a number of cases

wherein weak Mars in 8th has not produced any KUJA DOSHA;

while weak Mars in 2nd has destroyed the couple! SO, nothing can be

definite by astro-dicta whether composed by Sage Parashara

or any other authority. You will find astrology very funny if you

study Jatakatatwam(by Mahadeva) filled with a number of dicta

without any rational ground; but THAT is the beginning where one has

to start decoding them!

 

So, the semi-permeable membrane of strength and Dosha can help any

astrologer judge correctly only through his intuition.

As far as dicta are concerned, both 2nd and 8th are places of KUJA

DOSHA, and 8th is definitely highly succeptible place for

Mars when it comes to marriage. Mars in 8th by itself is a big

hindrance described in marriage chapters of astrology, going

under the name 'KUJAASHTAMA DOSHA' and definitely omitted even in

Muhurta charts for marriage, whatever may be the Rashi concerned.

 

The rule behind Kuja dosha is that except 'Upachaya' and 'Dharma',

all other bhavas get affected adversely by Mars wrt Marriage.

It is just the guide line to show who all are succeptible to Martian

play. Of course there are cancellations and exceptions.

There are many codes waiting for us to decode like - If saturn is in

8th from lagna, Kuja dosha is cancelled! - any try?

 

yours humbly,

KAD

 

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Neeraj:

>

> It is sometimes described that Mars in the 2nd is also harmful, and

some

> even say it's

> Kuja dosha.

>

> However, I also have a problem with Mars in the 8th being kuja

dosha.

>

> I understand and experience in people's charts, with Mars in the

lst, 4th,

> 7th & 12th, houses,

> where Mars, due to it's various aspects, directly influences the

7th house

> of Marriage, and

> partnerships.

>

> Mars in the 8th, however, is the only configuration where Mars

doesn't

> directly influence the 7th house.

>

> There is another quality where Mars, or Kuja dosha, or imbalance

can occur

> in a variety of other situations and configurations.

>

> For example Mars in the 3rd, generally is not supposed to be kuja

dosha, but

> if Mars is with

> the Moon or Sun, or Jupiter or Venus, etc., in the 3rd, all of these

> different configurations

> could be indicative of a 'malefic' Mars which is the true

definition of

> 'kuja dosha' or Mars, imbalance.

>

> I don't think we need to get to caught up in always defining some

perfectly

> all these rules,

> because if I've learned anything about Jyotish, it's also, the

fact, that

> for every rule, there

> are a number of exceptions that also could exist.

>

> Mars in the lst is supposed to be Kuja dosha, but, if Mars is in

it's Own

> Signs, or Exalted,

> that maleficness, is much reduced.

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>

> Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

>

> Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:15:07 -0800 (PST)

>

> Re: 2-All, Re: Kuja dosha ? and what is the deep

Astrol.

> Philosophy behind all malefics...?, > Mark Kincaid, 3/27

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Hi all,

>

> I believe, I was not clear in my words. I intended to

> say that "Mars in 8th house (i.e. 2nd from 7th house)"

> is malefic and not mars in second house. Even I do not

> consider Kuja Dosha, if mars is placed in Second

> house.

>

> Hope, I am clear this time.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

> --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

>

> > Dear All:

> >

> > Reading Neeraj's words this morning and these

> > thoughts, popping up....

> >

> > (In regards to Mars' potential negative possibility

> > to Mars even in the 2nd

> > house...)

> >

> >

> > Well, it's alllllways something!

> > hehehe....

> >

> > Though I do find that what's more important then the

> > rule about Mars,

> > 'imbalance' or dosha,

> > is that people evolve to learn their better skills

> > in relationships.

> >

> > I think, too often, people assume because I have

> > such and such an

> > Astrological configuration,

> > I must suffer, in this particular way.

> >

> > But, I believe Jyotish is like life, ....

> > in the sense that our live's are here to grow...

> > to improve,....and to change...

> >

> > So, when we finally realize that our chart's are not

> > just examples of our

> > 'fates',...

> > but ....in fact,....

> > are expressions of our opportunities!....

> > and the very reasons why we've come!

> >

> > We should also realize, that life is not just a

> > punishment...

> >

> > but, ....our consequences are....so that we learn.

> >

> >

> > And the very minute we learn, something, then,

> > automatically, that negative

> > consequence,

> > can stop!

> >

> > Take Mars' accidents for example. If we're a bit

> > accident prone, and

> > constantly pushing the

> > envelope, on our actions and 'doings',...

> >

> > we may keep persisting through the little slips,

> > bangings of elbows, and

> > near catastrophes,...

> >

> > but at some point, it just occurs to us,

> > ....'wow....maybe I'm going too

> > fast....'

> >

> > It was like that for me, .... I enjoyed my Mars,

> > sooo much...

> >

> > Perhaps because it was in the 10th house,.....

> > but...

> >

> > after 1, 2, and even 3 fairly big accidents,....

> > when I looked at my chart,

> > I realized,.... the Sign that my Mars was in wasn't

> > so good, and maybe,....

> > just maybe,....that represented a message for me,

> > some kind of malefic,....

> > sign post...

> >

> > "don't go this way".....or

> > "don't go this time..."

> >

> > And as I took this possibility to heart, and just

> > innocently adjusted my

> > speed,

> > just a little,

> > I found an immediate, lessening of all of my

> > previous accident

> > 'proneness',...

> > if there is sucha word...

> >

> > That experience, ultimately, was very illuminating

> > because then I

> > realized,....if I could do

> > this for just one of my malefics, maybe, there was

> > some kind of 'other'

> > insights, that my other

> > malefics,....might bestow....

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:26:03 -0800 (PST)

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] 2-Sameer, Re: what is

> > kuja dosha ? and my

> > Mars/8th house?, > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

> > house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

> > house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as

> > kuja

> > dosha and it is not considered good for longevity of

> > marriage / bride / groom.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Sameer:

> > >

> > >

> > > Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

> > >

> > > You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> > > suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> > > Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

> > >

> > > However, unlike all the other configurations, Mars

> > > in the 8th doesn't

> > > directly influence the 7th house, due to any of

> > it's

> > > aspects.

> > >

> > > So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being Kuja

> > > dosha.

> > >

> > >

> > > Also, because the 8th house is the natural house,

> > of

> > > the sign scorpio, I

> > > feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

> > >

> > > However, then, you need to look at the sign

> > > rulerships to determine the

> > > secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> > > have a scorpio rising, the

> > > fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord of

> > > the first in the 8th...

> > >

> > > So, we could investigate whether this placement is

> > > negative for you...

> > >

> > > Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> > > represents qualities and

> > > characteristics of the Self,

> > > or 'I', in the 8th house...

> > >

> > > The question then, is do you have any of the

> > > negatives or the positives of

> > > the 8th house?

> > >

> > > Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> > > compulsions, addictions and

> > > the like?

> > >

> > > If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> > > malefic influence.

> > >

> > > If, however, you don't have any bad habits and on

> > > the other hand, do have

> > > good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> > > positive.

> > >

> > > Let me know the answer to these last questions and

> > > then, I'll advise your

> > > further.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing@v...>

> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> > > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...>

> >

> === message truncated ===

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