2-deepak, re.... Mars debiliated in 10th house, > Mark Kincaid

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Hello Mark.

Thanks so much for the wonderful insight into Mars in Cancer in 10th

house. The very paradox of having a strong planet like mars in the

watery sign of the moon was always something that had mystified me

in astro analysis. Take my own horoscope for example where I am in a

very similar position like yours. According to western charts I have

Mars in Leo, but according to the traditional south Indian method of

calculation, I am libra lagna with Mars in 10th house. I was a tough

kid and had a frightful temper during my "youth" so to say. However

after the age of around 30, I began to mellow down and was more

drawn to using the energy of mars in a different way. I started the

recitation of Hanuman Chalisa !! I was always drawn towards an

engineering career and became a mechanical engineer. Since mars is

in cancer, you guessed it, my favorite subject was hydraulics and

water power. I made my career in an electric utility (Rahu Dasa

started in 1987 for me) and during the course of the past 15 years I

have done many projects relating to water utilities and with

hospitals (medical related projects). Of course, I think this has

been made possible by my Moon who exalted in the 8th house with

retrograde Jupiter (both conjunt in Taurus in Krittika natshatra ).

I just started my Jupiter dasha in 2003, with some trepidation since

Jupiter lords over the 3rd and 6th house, but so far things have

gone relatively well. Due to the grace of transit Jupiter in 5th, my

wife and I are expecting a child in May. My sade sati also ended in

2003. During that time, Lord Saturn taught me some very tough

lessons, but when I look at the sade sati results in the end, I

realized that during this period I got married, bought a house and

made tremendous progress in my career (and monetarily). This is

probably because retrograde Saturn is located in Aquarius in my 5th

house ( I am somewhat blessed by such a benign position of Saturn

who is also a yogakaraka planet for me). In retrospect, I do agree

that similar to you, when I let the events unfold around me and by

standing for myself, I feel a lot better. I noticed that you had

also mentioned accidents. Well, I have a thing for fast cars. I

owned several sports cars (wonder why they were always red in

color ? :-) I have participated in car rallies and als participated

in high speed track training events. Ironically none of my accidents

happened during high speed driving, but I have had several motor

vehicle accidents in the past. Miraculously I have come walking out

of the car without a scratch. Is that the divine merit of Jupiter in

8th or could it be mars aspecting Capricorn from my 10th house ?

Please feel free to respond.

regards.

 

Deepak

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Welllll, just happen to have the configuration you asked about...

> ehhee

>

> I have a Libra rising, and Mars in the 10th...and in Cancer...

>

> It's a very kind of strange situation because Mars, like you said,

is very

> strong, in the 10th

> house, but,...kind of wimpy and weak in Cancer...

>

> I've always felt two very opposite kinds of qualities,...

>

> On the one hand I feel this dynamicness, strong, love sports,

action movies,

> and on and one..

> and yet at the other time, I feel this strange kind of

> abstract,...compassionate nature...

>

> As a young boy, I ignored the more subtle one, and tried to be the

other...

> Marish, football player, and the like...

>

> but whenever it would get down to it, ... I didn't have

the 'killer'

> instinct, you hear about...

>

> Then, I learned Jyotish and discovered,...the rules and ideas

assoc. with

> Mars/Cancer....

>

> Then, the whole thing made sense to me...

>

> I liked being Marish,.... I mean, what man doesn't,...and also I

realized

> it's kind of embarassing,

> having this fairly femaleish, or Motherly side to one, in one's

house of

> career....

>

> It wasn't for many years later, especially when I met some strong,

virile,

> men, who also had strongly developed feminine sides of themselves,

> developed....that I realized....

> it was okay, to let that softer Cancer part show....

>

> Other things I've learned is.... Mars is weak in Cancer, which

means often,

> that one needs to stand up for oneself more...

>

> I realized that too, that I'd allow circumstances esp. if it

complicated the

> finer, faint, feeling (Cancer) feeling level.... I'd allow

> circumstances,....overshadow, me...and what was really right.

>

> When I started to practice this art of standing up for myself....I

found

> things improved emmensely.

>

> Finally, since I've realized being 'that' Cancer part of me,

doesn't make me

> effeminate, I've been a lot happier and more natural in career.

>

> I also, invited my Mars to leave that Cancer, part of me,...and

venture out

> to a more natual Marish environment...

>

> Since I've done these two things,....I've been much happier...

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

> ps... oh yes, you asked about career....

>

> You have to look at the broader part of my chart to understand

career....

> (9/4/1951, Libra rising) meant that Jupiter was in my 6th house,

and

> aspecting the 10th house

> I found myself an education and Philosophy major in college, and a

teacher,

> and teacher of adult education classes, including yoga and

meditation for

> most of my life...

>

> However, whenever I needed to make extra money, I stumbled upon

home

> remodeling or construction, as a back up to my, what I consider my

higher

> dharma.

>

> Also Mars in Cancer, has contributed to accidents in career,...

> I've fallen 3 times, on the job, from scaffoldings and

ladders, ....any one

> of which could have lost my life... I think Moon/Lord of the

10th, in the

> 12th with Saturn, didn't help!

>

> In fact, probably why my accidents were Saturn, falling accidents

vs. car

> accidents, or running into things...

>

> ciao

>

> ps.... oh, yes, why your curiosity about Mars/Cancer, in the 10th?

>

>

>

>

> "deepak_vishnu" <deepak_vishnu>

>

> Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:32:38 -0000

>

> Mars debiliated in 10th house

>

>

>

> Respected Gurus and friends,

> All the texts I have read indicate that the position of Mars in the

> 10th house of a horoscope is always beneficial to ones career. (i

> assume the logic is that in 10th mars gains directional strength).

> However if the 10th house say falls in Cancer, where Mars is

> debilitated, will it adversely affect one's career/profession ?

> Your thoughts please....

> regards.

>

> Deepak

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Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:29:34 -0000

 

Re: 2-deepak, re.... Mars debiliated in 10th house, > Mark

Kincaid

 

 

 

Hello Mark.

Thanks so much for the wonderful insight into Mars in Cancer in 10th

house.

 

The very paradox of having a strong planet like mars in the

watery sign of the moon was always something that had mystified me

in astro analysis.

 

Take my own horoscope for example where I am in a

very similar position like yours. According to western charts I have

Mars in Leo, but according to the traditional south Indian method of

calculation, I am libra lagna with Mars in 10th house. I was a tough

kid and had a frightful temper during my "youth" so to say. However

after the age of around 30, I began to mellow down and was more

drawn to using the energy of mars in a different way. I started the

recitation of Hanuman Chalisa !! I was always drawn towards an

engineering career and became a mechanical engineer. Since mars is

in cancer, you guessed it, my favorite subject was hydraulics and

water power. I made my career in an electric utility (Rahu Dasa

started in 1987 for me) and during the course of the past 15 years I

have done many projects relating to water utilities and with

hospitals (medical related projects).

 

very interesting hearing your Mars/Cancer,...story....

 

Of course, I think this has

been made possible by my Moon who exalted in the 8th house with

retrograde Jupiter

 

Interesting, though mine is quite a bit different, with my 10th house lord,

Moon

going the other direction, being in the 12th, and with my Saturn, also

yogakaraka,

but in the 12th house...

 

(both conjunt in Taurus in Krittika natshatra ).

I just started my Jupiter dasha in 2003, with some trepidation since

Jupiter lords over the 3rd and 6th house, but so far things have

gone relatively well. Due to the grace of transit Jupiter in 5th, my

wife and I are expecting a child in May. My sade sati also ended in

2003. During that time, Lord Saturn taught me some very tough

lessons, but when I look at the sade sati results in the end, I

realized that during this period I got married, bought a house and

made tremendous progress in my career (and monetarily).

 

I think you're right here, that Jupiter, being with an Exalted planet can

really soften, and turn the potentially negative part of Jupiter's karma,

due

to ruling 3rd and 6th....into a more positive one...

 

For me I've been lucky cuz, my Jupiter's in my 6th house, in Pisces, so that

reflected a much more positive jupiter period, and also Jupiter very

positively

affected by Mars/Cancer, in the 10th....

This is

probably because retrograde Saturn is located in Aquarius in my 5th

house ( I am somewhat blessed by such a benign position of Saturn

who is also a yogakaraka planet for me). In retrospect, I do agree

that similar to you, when I let the events unfold around me and by

standing for myself, I feel a lot better. I noticed that you had

also mentioned accidents. Well, I have a thing for fast cars. I

owned several sports cars (wonder why they were always red in

color ? :-) I have participated in car rallies and als participated

in high speed track training events. Ironically none of my accidents

happened during high speed driving, but I have had several motor

vehicle accidents in the past. Miraculously I have come walking out

of the car without a scratch. Is that the divine merit of Jupiter in

8th or could it be mars aspecting Capricorn from my 10th house ?

Please feel free to respond.

 

I think you should be more careful, because Mars/Cancer, represents also

a kind of lack of clarity about, movement and actions, hence accidents...

so try and be especially cautious, even if you've escaped.... the more

dreaded

part of it...

 

regards.

 

Deepak

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Welllll, just happen to have the configuration you asked about...

> ehhee

>

> I have a Libra rising, and Mars in the 10th...and in Cancer...

>

> It's a very kind of strange situation because Mars, like you said,

is very

> strong, in the 10th

> house, but,...kind of wimpy and weak in Cancer...

>

> I've always felt two very opposite kinds of qualities,...

>

> On the one hand I feel this dynamicness, strong, love sports,

action movies,

> and on and one..

> and yet at the other time, I feel this strange kind of

> abstract,...compassionate nature...

>

> As a young boy, I ignored the more subtle one, and tried to be the

other...

> Marish, football player, and the like...

>

> but whenever it would get down to it, ... I didn't have

the 'killer'

> instinct, you hear about...

>

> Then, I learned Jyotish and discovered,...the rules and ideas

assoc. with

> Mars/Cancer....

>

> Then, the whole thing made sense to me...

>

> I liked being Marish,.... I mean, what man doesn't,...and also I

realized

> it's kind of embarassing,

> having this fairly femaleish, or Motherly side to one, in one's

house of

> career....

>

> It wasn't for many years later, especially when I met some strong,

virile,

> men, who also had strongly developed feminine sides of themselves,

> developed....that I realized....

> it was okay, to let that softer Cancer part show....

>

> Other things I've learned is.... Mars is weak in Cancer, which

means often,

> that one needs to stand up for oneself more...

>

> I realized that too, that I'd allow circumstances esp. if it

complicated the

> finer, faint, feeling (Cancer) feeling level.... I'd allow

> circumstances,....overshadow, me...and what was really right.

>

> When I started to practice this art of standing up for myself....I

found

> things improved emmensely.

>

> Finally, since I've realized being 'that' Cancer part of me,

doesn't make me

> effeminate, I've been a lot happier and more natural in career.

>

> I also, invited my Mars to leave that Cancer, part of me,...and

venture out

> to a more natual Marish environment...

>

> Since I've done these two things,....I've been much happier...

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

> ps... oh yes, you asked about career....

>

> You have to look at the broader part of my chart to understand

career....

> (9/4/1951, Libra rising) meant that Jupiter was in my 6th house,

and

> aspecting the 10th house

> I found myself an education and Philosophy major in college, and a

teacher,

> and teacher of adult education classes, including yoga and

meditation for

> most of my life...

>

> However, whenever I needed to make extra money, I stumbled upon

home

> remodeling or construction, as a back up to my, what I consider my

higher

> dharma.

>

> Also Mars in Cancer, has contributed to accidents in career,...

> I've fallen 3 times, on the job, from scaffoldings and

ladders, ....any one

> of which could have lost my life... I think Moon/Lord of the

10th, in the

> 12th with Saturn, didn't help!

>

> In fact, probably why my accidents were Saturn, falling accidents

vs. car

> accidents, or running into things...

>

> ciao

>

> ps.... oh, yes, why your curiosity about Mars/Cancer, in the 10th?

>

>

>

>

> "deepak_vishnu" <deepak_vishnu>

>

> Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:32:38 -0000

>

> Mars debiliated in 10th house

>

>

>

> Respected Gurus and friends,

> All the texts I have read indicate that the position of Mars in the

> 10th house of a horoscope is always beneficial to ones career. (i

> assume the logic is that in 10th mars gains directional strength).

> However if the 10th house say falls in Cancer, where Mars is

> debilitated, will it adversely affect one's career/profession ?

> Your thoughts please....

> regards.

>

> Deepak

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

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